Manson: A Geographic History

In the summer of 1969, ex-convict and rock star wanna-be Charles Manson led a bizarre cult of disaffected young people out of the wild hinterlands of Los Angeles to murder numerous victims, most of them wealthy, in the exclusive upper-class enclaves where they lived. These are some of the most infamous murders in 20th century American history. In this deep-dive video we'll examine Manson, his cult and his murder spree by looking at the places, most but not all of them in or around L.A., where they occurred as well as other places where events relevant to the story took place. You'll find that the Manson story is closely intertwined with the physical, environmental and racial geography of Los Angeles, Southern California, San Francisco and other places farther afield. You may know part of the story already, but you probably haven't ever seen it told quite like this.
Major sources for this video:
John Gilmore & Ron Kenne, Manson: The Unholy Trail of Charlie and the Family (formerly titled The Garbage People) (Los Angeles: Amok Books, 2000)
Jeff Guinn, Manson (New York: Simon & Schuster, 2014)
Carina Longworth, You Must Remember This (podcast series), "Charles Manson's Hollywood," September 2015, www.youmustrememberthispodcas... (in my opinion one of the best-ever histories of the Manson phenomenon)
Ed Sanders, The Family (New York: Thunder's Mouth Press, 2002)
Special thanks to @JoeBuiDesertTrippin for footage, collaboration and interview regarding Barker and Spahn Ranches (see Chapter 17). Joe's channel: / @joebuideserttrippin
This video started as an article on my blog, here (signup required to read it all): www.gardenofmemory.net/geogra...
My website: www.seanmunger.com
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My blog: gardenofmemory.net/
Chapters:
00:00-10:56: Intro & Road Map
10:56-19:54: From Rust Belt to Sun Belt
19:54-27:31: Los Angeles
27:31-34:26: Haight-Ashbury
34:26-40:31: Black Magic Mansions
40:31-47:39: Dennis Wilson's House
47:39-56:16: Spahn Ranch
56:16-1:05:59: L.A.'s Racial Geography
1:05:59-1:10:44: Franklin Garden Apartments
1:10:44-1:16:35: Gary Hinman House
1:16:35-1:22:32: Esalen Institute
1:22:32-1:29:02: Abbey Road
1:29:02-1:41:54: Cielo Drive
1:41:54-1:47:58: LaBianca House
1:47:58-1:51:36: Venice Beach
1:51:36-1:56:33: Woodstock
1:56:33-2:08:03: Barker Ranch
2:08:03-2:11:37: 28 Clubhouse Avenue
2:11:37-2:14:56: Altamont
2:14:56-2:18:10: The Hall of Justice
2:18:10-2:26:46: What Happened to Everyone
2:26:46-2:29:44: Conclusion

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  • @DearlyDepartedTours
    @DearlyDepartedTours10 ай бұрын

    I'm only 20 minutes in and my head is spinning. This is a fantastic video.

  • @SeanMunger

    @SeanMunger

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you SO much! I consider this very high praise, because I greatly admire your "Six Degrees of Helter Skelter" documentary.

  • @shoppergirl8904

    @shoppergirl8904

    10 ай бұрын

    This is, imho, a unique (organized chronology in the geographic places) retelling that is a dive into Mason's twisted life. Wow, definitely history entertainment! Thanks!

  • @Sol-Cutta

    @Sol-Cutta

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@SeanMungerthis looks bloody awesome...only just watched intro ...love the Google earth footage , how unique...if I ever do anything like this myself I'll be sure to utilise it, I'm UK citizen so talking UK of course

  • @tracymcelhenie3988

    @tracymcelhenie3988

    9 ай бұрын

    Excellent video made sense out of all that craziness.

  • @carlosrivas1629

    @carlosrivas1629

    9 ай бұрын

    @@SeanMunger For a minute i forgot how big la and the area really is.

  • @colingilloon7265
    @colingilloon726510 ай бұрын

    Your channel has been my favorite find of 2023 and has reinvigorated my passion for history that hasn't been present since graduating school. The context you provide for historical events and ability to communicate in a thoroughly engaging way is deeply appreciated. Both this video and the JFK video have been extremely helpful in proving inspiration for my own writing and exploration of these topics. Thank you for the work you do, I wish everyone knew about this channel!

  • @SeanMunger

    @SeanMunger

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much! 🙏

  • @Scott7137

    @Scott7137

    10 ай бұрын

    Couldn't agree more. This channel is a gem. Keep up the great work!

  • @nachtschimmen

    @nachtschimmen

    10 ай бұрын

    Eye agrees!

  • @pullt

    @pullt

    10 ай бұрын

    Channel crossed my transom when the Iran Contra video hit and have nearly watched all of them. Even learned some ship lingo.

  • @Oakleaf700

    @Oakleaf700

    2 ай бұрын

    @@SeanMunger Just finished the listening marathon..It's superb. You also have a great voice, very easy on the ear. Michael Hordern is the English equivalent. Something about the cadence.

  • @bramford7e
    @bramford7e10 ай бұрын

    It's amazing what you can do with Google Earth nowadays. It allows you to travel to CA, walk the streets of LA, look up addresses and historical sites, visit Benedict Canyon and go to Death Valley, without ever leaving your couch. The possibilities are endless. Combine that with some archival footage and a knowledgeable narrator and you get something very special. This was absolutely amazing, I just wish this video was longer. I'll happily subscribe to your channel.

  • @nancyarensdorf1503

    @nancyarensdorf1503

    4 ай бұрын

    I'm a huge fan of mapquest so this is a Godsend. 😊❤

  • @SuperLordHawHaw
    @SuperLordHawHaw6 ай бұрын

    The monstrosity that replaced the 10050 Cielo drive house is so incredibly garish and ugly it is a crime in itself.

  • @snickerinmuttley1204

    @snickerinmuttley1204

    6 ай бұрын

    Yes, It's sad what they put there, that's just a testament to a-holes having too much money and not knowing what to do with it, makes me sick to even look at it. I loved the original house, it was just so quaint, even with what happened there, I would take the old house any day over that big beast of a place, I think it should've been preserved, maybe not as a tourist attraction because of the narrow road up to the house. but still preserved, I used to wish I would've had enough money to buy it from Altobelli for that 1.6 million, I know for a fact if I had bought the house, it would still be there. but in saying that, I don't know if I could've lived there as my main residence, because many people associated with the place said some weird shit happened there quite often, even the final occupant Trent Reznor mentioned just an uneasy eerie feeling being there, nothing specific but just an uneasy feeling, I can't Imagine being in the house alone at night, but now, it can never be returned to it's former beauty, oh ya, It was that buttwipe Jeff Franklin, producer of TV shows like Full House that had that monstrosity built there.

  • @reginastoltz3629

    @reginastoltz3629

    5 ай бұрын

    I would have rather just let it be nothing but green space than build that gaudy spectacle of greed Sharon's love nest was perfect for that space. It fit right in with the surrounding area.

  • @soso8824

    @soso8824

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@snickerinmuttley1204I agree with everything you wrote. The original house and guest house were beautiful in an old world charm way. That new house is way too over the top , ostentatious. There are new videos on KZread showing the inside of the guesthouse. It's awesome. There's also a recent video showing the small bedroom next to the kitchen in the main house. Both videos were taken during Trent Reznor's time at the estate.

  • @kathleendobens6648

    @kathleendobens6648

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@snickerinmuttley1204💯

  • @JustinTime-ie4fy

    @JustinTime-ie4fy

    3 ай бұрын

    Everything in LA is wrong

  • @donnysarian
    @donnysarian5 ай бұрын

    This was a phenomenally well put together presentation. My family home, in which I still live, was only two and a half miles from the Tate residence and ironically my then next door neighbor, Lawrence Schiller, was directly connected with case with the foreign press sale of Susan Atkins Grand Jury testimony, which was penned in his home while I played next door as a 10 year old kid with his daughter, Shoshana, who was my friend. I have been in the old Tate home (now gone as you mentioned) as a friend of mine's family briefly rented it when we were in high school in the mid 70's. It wa a very quaint and beautiful home but somewhat eerie to actually be at knowing the events that took place there. I know this history very, very well and usually am not interested in modern day takes on the crime as many are nonsense. But your video was so exceptionally well done, coming at it from a totally different angle that you had me spellbound all the way through. Great job and thank you.

  • @chris93122
    @chris9312210 ай бұрын

    I love the idea of documentaries paying closer attention to the geographical elements of commonly understood topics. It's amazing how much an awareness of the spacial aspects of stories increases engagement and understanding

  • @tigerwoods373

    @tigerwoods373

    8 ай бұрын

    There are so many copy paste type documentaries that cover the same thing sometimes nearly word for word. It's so refreshing to have a video with a completely new perspective.

  • @sawarunan
    @sawarunan10 ай бұрын

    We're edging closer to the 9 hour Sean Munger Vietnam War documentary that I'm waiting for.

  • @barbaramiller2279
    @barbaramiller22796 ай бұрын

    My dad was at Boystown at the same time Manson was. I'd guess Manson didn't want to stay there because they had rules. The kids had to go to school. Take care of their own rooms, clothes, etc., work the farm, work in the gardens. Contribute to the society there. Manson didn't want to. He wanted to be in prison so everything would be done for him. Boystown was and is a great place. My dad was just inducted into their athletic hall of fame for his swimming and diving prowess. That same sport earned him a full paid scholarship to Nebraska State and dozens of life long friends. Manson had the same opportunities.

  • @CherokeeBird

    @CherokeeBird

    Ай бұрын

    I went to a good school, but I was severely bullied. When you are running on survival mode, you can't do anything else but survive. I skipped school alot to get away from being tormented. 😔

  • @thesummerland6165

    @thesummerland6165

    Ай бұрын

    @@CherokeeBird I'm sorry that happened to you

  • @PeacefulRallyCar-pw3cs

    @PeacefulRallyCar-pw3cs

    Ай бұрын

    CM was a little guy. He ran away often likely due to being bullied by the big boys. He had little direct participation in the murders, coercing others to do the dirty work.

  • @arcanondrum6543

    @arcanondrum6543

    17 күн бұрын

    ​@@CherokeeBird You raise a good point. Not everyone has a shared experience in the same places. One tip I learned about psychology: Everything that happened to you from Age 0 to Age 5 matters for the rest of your life. Not every woman who gives birth is a good mother, some don't really earn the title. Same is true for fathers, siblings, caretakers, etc. but some mentioned matter more than others and sociopaths never accept blame, they deflect it onto their victims. Anyway, if 0-5 sounds doubtful, it isn't. "Happy Meals" wasn't a happy accident.

  • @Lfg117
    @Lfg11710 ай бұрын

    My fav' part: The detailed breakdown of early L.A. history. Powerful.

  • @PiethagorasTearem
    @PiethagorasTearem10 ай бұрын

    I think susan atkins was a far more twisted individual than manson was. Manson at least did the stuff he did out of greed, and self preservation. Atkins just seemed to kill for fun of it.

  • @BryanSteeleSounds

    @BryanSteeleSounds

    Ай бұрын

    Yes, Charles was akin to a narcissist and perhaps slightly sociopathic, while Susan by all accounts may have been a true psychopath.

  • @user-bu7jl6zy5d
    @user-bu7jl6zy5d9 ай бұрын

    William Garretson returned to Ohio and married Linda Derr in 1970. They had a son in 1976 who died at the age of 11 in 1987. William Garretson died of cancer in 2016 at the age of 66. His ex-wife died in 2020. This is a superb video.

  • @Jeffsafe
    @Jeffsafe9 ай бұрын

    2:20 Patricia Krenwinkle later said in an interview that she didn’t go to the guest cottage as instructed. She said she went around the corner from where Tex was killing Abigail and merely leaned up against the wall. She returned to Tex and the others and said there was nobody in the guest cottage.

  • @JoeBuiDesertTrippin
    @JoeBuiDesertTrippin10 ай бұрын

    Wow, Sean! This is AMAZING! And I’m not just saying that because of the shout-out you gave me! I love your insights and I believe this video may be your best ever! (And you’ve created a dizzying amount of quality content over the past few years.)

  • @SeanMunger

    @SeanMunger

    10 ай бұрын

    Joe, thanks so much my friend! Thanks for your contribution.

  • @OdyTypeR

    @OdyTypeR

    10 ай бұрын

    I love the "They Live" t-shirt. Love that movie. Subscribed to your channel for the algorithm, I'm looking forward to following you along your journey, looks like some damn intriguing spots.

  • @fumanpoo4725

    @fumanpoo4725

    10 ай бұрын

    Got to visit Barker Ranch in 1997. Saw the cabinet Manson was found hiding in.

  • @JoeBuiDesertTrippin

    @JoeBuiDesertTrippin

    10 ай бұрын

    The cabinet was gone by the time I got to see the cabin. But judging from the markings on the wall and floor, which indicated the size of the cabinet, it was remarkable that Manson was able to contort his body into that space.

  • @Gobble_de_Goop

    @Gobble_de_Goop

    10 ай бұрын

    I concur, great video!! Just as FYI, had anyone else heard that Kenneth Anger just recently passed away? Apparently he was in a care facility in the Palm Desert away. Believe he was 96 years old.

  • @krishnastarz
    @krishnastarz10 ай бұрын

    Wake up babe new documentary dropped ✨️

  • @haughtygarbage5848

    @haughtygarbage5848

    10 ай бұрын

    I'm awake 🤓

  • @alisonm1164

    @alisonm1164

    10 ай бұрын

    Ahhhhhhhhh

  • @vivvy_beastmode

    @vivvy_beastmode

    10 ай бұрын

    no way babe - i can’t wait to watch it w u 😍❤💕

  • @dickiegreenleaf750

    @dickiegreenleaf750

    10 ай бұрын

    Dropped. Lol

  • @greedylittlecoward3040
    @greedylittlecoward30406 ай бұрын

    What is difficult to realize looking back is that there was a two-month period between the crimes and Manson’s arrest when people in LA were scared to death. There would have been no connection in the minds of contemporaries between Woodstock and the murders. The police were actually looking for the murderers in the black community just as Manson predicted and they were criticized for the delay. If I recall correctly members of the family visited Bobby Beausoleil in the same building with detectives trying to solve the case. The hippie component came as a surprise although the family only outwardly resembled hippie culture.

  • @hugosophy
    @hugosophy10 ай бұрын

    RIP Steve Parent, and Baby Polanski. Probably the most innocent victims of this senseless destruction.

  • @catherinefrazier2478

    @catherinefrazier2478

    3 ай бұрын

    Paul Richard Polanski.

  • @danielgriffith3633
    @danielgriffith363310 ай бұрын

    "Helter Skelter is hard to understand....for anyone that's Not insane"....LOL Best Line of the video hahaha

  • @grimtraveller7923

    @grimtraveller7923

    9 ай бұрын

    Ironically, I find it easy to understand, with all its constituent parts ¬> and I'm not yet close to insane !

  • @percybyssheshelly

    @percybyssheshelly

    3 ай бұрын

    @@grimtraveller7923I agree. It’s not that hard to understand especially if you are around the age of those people and knew what was going on during that time. I think it was a case of mass hysteria.

  • @davidparker9676

    @davidparker9676

    3 ай бұрын

    @@percybyssheshelly Mass hypnosis is more like it. Manson had a firm grip on the collective imagination of the public. He had an appeal to the rejects and outcasts in society. I had a customer in San Pedro California that was in constant communication with Manson... he had Manson's prison cell phone number. I can't begin to describe the house and the individual's bizarre behavior and decor. A truly shocking and memorable jobsite.

  • @altarwall
    @altarwall10 ай бұрын

    Sean you've been cranking out these long videos so regularly and yet the quality never falters. Your research is always so thorough and your storytelling of these events always so concise. You are a true beacon of history and historians, and I am so delighted to see how quickly your channel is growing! Entirely and enthusiastically deserved.

  • @notsoaveragejoe7275
    @notsoaveragejoe727510 ай бұрын

    Honestly man, your content has been some of the most informative and entertaining out there when it comes to history videos on KZread. It's a shame more people aren't aware of you. I wish you great success sir 🙏

  • @SeanMunger

    @SeanMunger

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much!

  • @chocolatetownforever7537

    @chocolatetownforever7537

    7 ай бұрын

    Its amazing, and just so well done. From the information given, to the pictures, and narration, these videos are as good as any on here, or ANY medium for that matter. Thank you for all the work you clearly put into these.

  • @mikelomez9313
    @mikelomez93138 ай бұрын

    Great video! My jaw nearly hit the floor when you said the abbey road cover photo was taken on 8/8/69. I actually started looking into the connections between the Beatles, Manson and the Dakota building in New York City about 10-12 years ago while watching Rosemary's Baby. At the beginning of the film theres a woman who committed suicide by jumping out of her apartment and she landed right where Lennon would get shot and killed years later. Then i remembered that the director of Rosemary's baby was Roman Polanski who's pregnant wife was brutally murdered by the Manson family who say they were doing what the Beatles told them to do. Imo theres some type of dark supernatural force at work there. Not sure exactly what but there is definitely something.

  • @jackdaniels2905

    @jackdaniels2905

    13 күн бұрын

    Polanski definitely has interest in satanism.

  • @FrgvDntFrgt8060

    @FrgvDntFrgt8060

    5 күн бұрын

    Roman's daughter, Morgane Polanski, b. 1-20-1993, a French-Polish actress, is best known for portraying Princess Gisla in the History Channel series _Vikings._

  • @commandohazelnuts
    @commandohazelnuts7 ай бұрын

    I am an amateur Los Angeles historian. This. Was. AWESOME. You did a phenomenal job highlighting how the history of Los Angeles prior to the Manson Family affected people. The explanation of Santa Susana pass, the migration of African-Americans to Watts, the water wars, the electric rail car decline, all of that is excellent. I loved the details and the visuals. Enjoyed 100% of this video. No criticism. Now I will understand the South Park episode where Cartman goes to Nebraska and helps Charles Manson escape prison lol ETA: Trent Reznor was at Woodstock 94 which is neat. Forgot to mention the neat connections made over the video. LA so small. If you lived here you would understand what I mean. I have anecdotes to support that.

  • @SeanMunger

    @SeanMunger

    7 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much!

  • @piercebros
    @piercebros10 ай бұрын

    Dr Sean coming in hot with another banger! Two hours and a half of this quality level of context and content?! Yes, please! Thank you so much for your work.

  • @SeanMunger

    @SeanMunger

    10 ай бұрын

    I do work so hard on these...thanks so much!

  • @nickmessina5131

    @nickmessina5131

    10 ай бұрын

    I honestly can't imagine the time that goes into these. Thank you!@@SeanMunger

  • @ManifestHacking
    @ManifestHacking10 ай бұрын

    I’m a LA resident living in Los Feliz. I live a block from where they believe Elizabeth Short(The black dahlia) was killed. My son attends John Marshall high school. A block from the labianca house. So I know the history, this is the best documentary I’ve ever watched on the subject.

  • @SeanMunger

    @SeanMunger

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you! High praise from someone with intimate knowledge of the area.

  • @hollywoodjaded

    @hollywoodjaded

    6 ай бұрын

    You’re referring to the Mayan-revivalist John Sowden House (with Lloyd Wright as architect), no? Ret. LAPD Det. Steve Hodel hypothesized that his physician father, while living in the Sowden House, used the basement as a torture chamber. His son, Steve also a writer, further stipulates his father Dr. George Hodel, buried corpses in the concrete flooring of the famed Sowden House basement, as well as throughout the stunning gardens, which enveloped the grounds fortress-like. Los Feliz has some amazing architecture, along with the park and the areas it abuts (eg. Shakespeare’s Bridge). Los Feliz proper is home to about 10 or so stunning structures/domiciles. (Plus, strangeness amongst a couple of the properties). Dr. Hodel, via daughter Tamar, connects to The Mamas & Papas in an odd way. Tamar, whom accused her father of $A [and causing her womb to swell] - just trying to get my c0mm€nt thru-took him to court. At the time, a teenage Michelle Gilliam (later Phillips) was a good friend. Anyway, Tamar lost the court case against her her father. Steve wrote a book: “Black Dahlia Avenger”. Either, Tamar or her daughter (?) wrote a book. This is all from faded memories. Dr. George Hodel has always been a suspect in the Elizabeth Short case, which has never been solved. He left the US in 1950, after having lived in the Sowden House for ~5 years. Years later DNA ruled-out George as Fauna’s father.

  • @KhalDrogo76
    @KhalDrogo7610 ай бұрын

    As someone who's been fascinated with this case for over 30 years and has read practically every book that has been written and has watched every important documentary on these killings, I have to give props here to this content. Excellent to get a unique view on these events - not a simple feat where so much has been discussed ad nauseum previously. Well done, would love to see more!

  • @SeanMunger

    @SeanMunger

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you, this is very high praise!

  • @KhalDrogo76

    @KhalDrogo76

    10 ай бұрын

    @SeanMunger with regards to CM's Esalan trip, I have heard it was another musical rejection..he went there to play for some unknown people, whether working there or musical professionals who were visiting there but regardless it was another rejection of his music. Prior to this trip, Terry Melcher had flatly rejected proceeding with CMs music after a recital just for Terry at the ranch. These rejections are major turning points IMHO. Great channel, new subscriber here!

  • @HanuByagama
    @HanuByagama10 ай бұрын

    As an environmental economist major, I for one would absolutely love more environmental history videos. Phenomenal content as always

  • @82566

    @82566

    8 ай бұрын

    💯 agree

  • @anthonykimball7463
    @anthonykimball746310 ай бұрын

    The reason Charlie drove up to Esalen (and, contrary to what this guy says, he did in fact own a driver's license) was to audition for a spot on the bill at the upcoming Big Sur Folk Festival, which was held in mid-September and was filmed for a documentary that came out, eventually, in 1971. Charlie was acquainted with one or two of the administrators at Esalen, that's how he was allowed to audition.

  • @FrgvDntFrgt8060

    @FrgvDntFrgt8060

    5 күн бұрын

    Charles Manson got a driver’s license on 7-21-1967, shortly after getting out of prison.

  • @FrgvDntFrgt8060

    @FrgvDntFrgt8060

    5 күн бұрын

    The 1971 documentary, _Celebration at Big Sur,_ about the 1969 Big Sur Folk Festival, was directed by Baird Bryant and Johanna Demetrakas and features many of the festival's performers.

  • @remmymafia3889
    @remmymafia388910 ай бұрын

    An interesting morsel here for you Sean. My mom's sister's husband, (aka my uncle) divorced my aunt in 1967, and married Kathy Lennon who was one of the four famous singing Lennon Sisters. (Lawrence Welk) On Wednesday Aug. 13th, 1969, only what? four days after the Tate/LaBianca murders, Lennon's father William, who was a golf teacher at a course near the Lennon home in Santa Monica, was going home for lunch that day at 'high noon'- (as the perp had described his premeditated murder of Bill Lennon in a previously mailed letter to the Lennon home), as he walked to his vehicle in the parking lot of the golf course, he was confronted my a deranged suitor of one of his singing daughters (Peggy), who shot and killed him right there. At the time of course, the area was on edge with the Tate/LaBianca killings, and this seemingly random murder in broad daylight, only added to the fright, as one could imagine.

  • @ciaraskeleton
    @ciaraskeleton9 ай бұрын

    I'm Autistic and one of my biggest interests is Los Angeles. I can't rationalise it. I just enjoy every story, every map+every historical event. The fact that you're giving us a visual tour of a historical even that was based in L.A is crazy. This is dream content for me. Freaking out in the most Autistic way possible 😂 Edit: This is even better than i expected. Im in heaven.

  • @CatWithoutAHat
    @CatWithoutAHat10 ай бұрын

    Seriously one of my favorite channels on KZread. You have no idea how many long nights you've gotten me through at work! The quality and thoroughness of your videos is a breath of fresh air.

  • @Chicago-Gem
    @Chicago-Gem10 ай бұрын

    I grew up in Los Angeles at the time the Manson murders occurred. I had to stop watching it after about 10 minutes because it scared the hell out of me. Great work! Your style, intellectual understanding, and artistic approach are exceptional.

  • @wimvanaerde6249

    @wimvanaerde6249

    10 ай бұрын

    LA was better than I guess I've heard that it's detoriated now, greetings from belgium.

  • @20chocsaday

    @20chocsaday

    10 ай бұрын

    Not surprised. When the news came on the B/W TV of the Sharon Tate murders I thought, That's the end of Flower Power. From the UK.

  • @coryd2668

    @coryd2668

    2 ай бұрын

    I was 11 living in San Gabriel Valley during that horrible time and it was scary to say the least hearing about it as a kid! Also remembering hearing the names of other celebrities CM wanted to target if he could have!

  • @DanTheMan-gj8dy
    @DanTheMan-gj8dy10 ай бұрын

    I absolutely love the consistent quality of your videos Sean. I love how long your videos are and the fact that you forgo keeping the video short in order to provide full context and go in-depth into the topic. This video specifically might be my favorite so far. The way you dove into this from a geographical perspective was super unique and interesting. I’ve never seen a video that’s covering the Manson family in such a unique way. I also really appreciate the fact that you didn’t really focus on the murders and especially that you barely went into the victims. I always feel like that part of true crime and discussion of the brutality is disrespectful, so props to you. You’re definitely one of the best channels that i’ve found this year. You deserve way more subscribers, I can’t wait to see what you come out with next!

  • @alef0811
    @alef081110 ай бұрын

    New viewer here, I really love these long form documentaries that you’ve been doing Sean. You’ve changed a lot of what I previously believed and I’ve learned a lot from your content. I really appreciate what you’re doing!

  • @jeffreyjordan9747
    @jeffreyjordan97476 ай бұрын

    Just a great doc Sean , It takes a lot to get me to stay in a chair for over 2 hours watched it from beginning to end, You have a great voice for this as well.

  • @SeanMunger

    @SeanMunger

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @greenockscatman
    @greenockscatman10 ай бұрын

    Man normally when they do a "deep dive" on here they just mean clicking the links in the Wikipedia article. This is something above and beyond! Great vid!

  • @Teemperor2
    @Teemperor210 ай бұрын

    This channel really is a rare gem of someone with proper academic background making entertaining videos.

  • @KunjaBihariKrishna
    @KunjaBihariKrishna7 ай бұрын

    This is by far the best coverage I have seen on Manson. So many documentaries try to sensationalize what is already inherently sensational enough. You have a good balance between stating the mere facts and adding some touches of colorful language here and there for emphasis. The geographical backdrop really grounds the story and makes you think more about the history of that time. I assume that your experience as a teacher has allowed you to hone the craft of conveying information, in a way that the average documentarian probably doesn't get a chance to do

  • @Systemsturz
    @Systemsturz10 ай бұрын

    And this is why I love your channel - it’s unfortunately very hard to study geo-politics here in Germany but I’m starting my geography studies this year in hopes of adding a more in depth masters after that!! Been a absolutely loving your videos recently! Thanks for producing these and educating me on subjects that would take me MUCH more time to learn about in this depth by myself ❤️

  • @adrianlinan5820
    @adrianlinan58209 ай бұрын

    Never have I've been so much into a KZread video than yours. What I thought I knew of the Manson Family is nothing compared to what I have learned from you. Keep up the good work!

  • @SeanMunger

    @SeanMunger

    9 ай бұрын

    Thanks, that's what I like to hear!

  • @lilyteeter7203
    @lilyteeter720310 ай бұрын

    Sean, this video is incredible!! It is truly one of my favorite KZread videos. The geographic angle is such a thoughtful and new idea, your delivery is clear and concise and I love all of the context. Thanks for making an absolute banger, patiently waiting for the next!!

  • @SeanMunger

    @SeanMunger

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much!

  • @Shaqh0use
    @Shaqh0use10 ай бұрын

    I found your channel a couple months ago and really enjoy your content, especially these long form videos. It’s awesome to see how much the channel has grown in just that time too, you definitely deserve it.

  • @rv6amark
    @rv6amark9 ай бұрын

    Great look at the very complex Manson family. You were successful in providing a different perspective to the subject. I was a very naive 21 year old engineering graduate, arriving in L.A. from the midwest in January, 1970. News broadcasts of the day consisted mainly of the Manson case, plus the kill score in Viet Nam, which was mostly lies. All of that fostered a fear of Manson retaliation, so when defense lawyer Ronald Hughes disappeared in November, the paranoia increased dramatically. Only the Richard Ramirez killing spree, some 15 years later, would match that fear. Thank you for making this video.

  • @coryd2668

    @coryd2668

    2 ай бұрын

    Don’t forget the Hillside Stranglers 1977-78! Total of 12 murders in the Los Angeles area!!

  • @savannah115
    @savannah11510 ай бұрын

    As a fellow historian, it astounds me that you don't have more followers. Here's a comment for the algorithm! Really great stuff, thanks for taking all the time to do these.

  • @SeanMunger

    @SeanMunger

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much! 🙏

  • @savannah115

    @savannah115

    10 ай бұрын

    @@SeanMunger Thank YOU! This is the kind of history stuff you can't find on TV anymore, or at least not without aliens being involved lol. I've shared your channel with several colleagues.

  • @benjaminphelps561
    @benjaminphelps56110 ай бұрын

    i cant express how appreciative i am on your content and how you present it. I really appreciate the chapters being actually segmented into the video itself helping me come back and or rehear a previous part and then back to where i was, its a small quality of life i really appreciate!

  • @WaveCanon
    @WaveCanon10 ай бұрын

    This is really great. I love that you covered Parsons and Anger. There is a whole deep dive starting with Crowley to Parsons>LRH>The Process/de Grimston> K. Anger>A. Lavey>Atkins and Beausoliel> Manson. So much Satanism and Witchcraft. The influence or Crowley was like poison in the veins of the world. Also Crowley to Leary. Eastern Mysticism. Even the founder of Wicca (male) was a thelemite. Maharishi used the Beatles to spread eastern mysticism, Zeppelin spread Thelema. The LSD connection was interesting spiritually because the Beatles were on it, Manson family on it, some sonic influence inspired The White Album and delivered a demonic message to Manson, perhaps? I believe it. The Tate murder was a blood sacrifice on that level. The spiritual element is rarely discussed. Media stopped taking interest in Atkins, Watson and Davis because they converted to Christianity. The spiritual element is the piece that finishes the story. Without it there will always be a missing 🧩. Charlie didn't believe helter skelter. He just made them to twist their minds and think he was Christ and make them act. They knew what they were doing, all of them. They just had different reasons for it. I think when the got back from Labianca and learned they wrote Healter Skelter, he panicked. He knew that would tie them to it and many would know it was them. That's why he took off for Death Valley.

  • @nancyarensdorf1503

    @nancyarensdorf1503

    4 ай бұрын

    I think Davis was into Scientology too when he met Manson.

  • @jacobpreen1118
    @jacobpreen111810 ай бұрын

    I love these videos, as a student historian I find your logic and methodology very digestible and understandable, while at the same time dynamic and horizon expanding. These videos follow a great structure but also explore rhizomatically, in short great work keep it up!

  • @johnnytroyano8870
    @johnnytroyano887010 ай бұрын

    Amazing. Grew up less than 4 miles from the LaBianca house, thought I had heard it all. You are a master at your craft. My respect.

  • @jimnxsq
    @jimnxsq9 ай бұрын

    I don’t know how many viewers watched your entire video without even once tapping the pause button, but you may count me as one. Riveting and informative! Thank you for your gargantuan effort to piece all of these threads together. BTW, your JFK video reinforced my conviction that Oswald was the lone assassin AND inspired me to grab one of the few remaining copies of Bugliosi’s massive book. I’m hoping to refresh my understanding of the details before the 60th anniversary conversations heat up next month.

  • @drunkenangel552
    @drunkenangel5527 ай бұрын

    Sean, I immediately recognized you as the terribly interesting guy I loved to talk to at TKE. It’s great to see you carrying on the tradition, and I’ve thoroughly enjoyed many of your videos. Looking at these crimes through the perspective of location brings so much to the table. More so personally as I’ve lived in Los Angeles for many years, coincidentally on Waverly Drive and a few blocks from the La Bianca’s. It sits between a home that’s hard to believe was once a college student’s party house, and an expansive and historic, but walled-off convent. I’d be interested to know when that wall was built because I’ve often noted the fencing and gates that now shroud most homes along the road, which I’m certain went up immediately post-Manson. Some renovated homes have removed them, but it’s such a shame how much that event truly closed off one neighbor from another. I’ve read that they tossed the weapons in the small reservoir on St. George, which the La Bianca’s son would have run past on his way to find help at a news stand on Hyperion and Rowena-which is now a takeout restaurant called Mixto. I’d be interested to know which way the attackers walked to hitchhike back to the ranch. I’ve also hiked around the Santa Susanna pass and have to say it’s a beautiful area, although eerie for anyone who knows the history. There’s still a rusted-out car sitting inexplicably in a barely accessible area. Who knows? Anyway, great research on your part. Cheers!

  • @SeanMunger

    @SeanMunger

    7 ай бұрын

    TKE? The fraternity? I was never in one.

  • @DarthMaynard
    @DarthMaynard3 ай бұрын

    I am not yet halfway thru this, but I have to applaud you for the way you approached this. It's like you were able to step back & find a fairly unexplored yet compelling purview for the storytelling. I have seen every doc there is on this family. There are only so many grooves to this very rich yet dark story. Inevitably those grooves get stripped by redundancy. Uncovering the geography the way you did is simply brilliant. The story is the story, but the physical context of macabre history is an entire universe of stimuli. Some of us who appreciate history just need to see & absorb the entire network of the related landscapes here. Thank you so much .

  • @karenfitzpatrick6256
    @karenfitzpatrick625610 ай бұрын

    I made it through in one sitting. A very thorough and well researched video. Thank you for your time in development and the upload.

  • @shikawgoh
    @shikawgoh6 ай бұрын

    Being the history and geography buff that I am, this video hit the spot. Also, realizing that the Manson murders were one of those kinds of sensational (not sensationalized) events that possibly altered or changed many perceptions, it was interesting to go through the historical timeline of people and places but in a very different and fresh context. Well done.

  • @jakstat9880
    @jakstat988010 ай бұрын

    Oh Sean I can already tell this will be treat. Thank you so much for all the investigation and overall work you've done here. I'll likely be enjoying this multiple times.

  • @dylanfarqwar
    @dylanfarqwar10 ай бұрын

    I know you're hearing it from everyone else too, but, SERIOUSLY, you are doing some wonderful work by making this level of historical analysis accessible to everyone with your videos!

  • @SeanMunger

    @SeanMunger

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much! It's good to hear.

  • @tatedavis2016
    @tatedavis201610 ай бұрын

    Great stuff man! You looked at these events from a very cool and unique perspective.

  • @tum.da.duse7
    @tum.da.duse78 ай бұрын

    Just subscribed, having finished this and watched a few of your other videos this week. Thank you for creating such informative & thoroughly researched content. I don't know if you are a teacher or not, you certainly have the skill, very engaging & well paced. I hope more people discover your work! Really appreciated the extra effort your went to in presenting this story with your geographical expertise perspective, and even just for making the choice to present a heavily retold story in a new way. I've seen quite a few retellings & *almost* didn't watch it for that reason, but really glad I did. One small thing I really appreciate is your inclusion of kilometre measurement after the miles. I'm in Australia and can never quickly calculate miles/can't be bothered, when mentioned, but that extra thoughtfulness actually gave me more depth and insight when absorbing the story. May seem small to some, but these thoughtful touches make a huge difference. Thanks again for being a gem in the KZread maze of creators. Looking forward to more of your work!

  • @snickerinmuttley1204
    @snickerinmuttley12046 ай бұрын

    Way to go Sean, hands down the best one I've seen so far on this subject, and there are a lot of vids out there about Manson Family.

  • @ReasonQuest
    @ReasonQuest10 ай бұрын

    What a fascinating way to weave the geography and environment of the times to tell the story! Thank you Dr. Munger, for your in-depth look into Manson and his family. Wow. So entertaining and informative!

  • @chairmanevan1865
    @chairmanevan186510 ай бұрын

    Love your channel Dr. Munger. Your video style, story telling ability, and general knowledge is amazing. Keep up the good work!

  • @messagedeleted4307
    @messagedeleted43079 ай бұрын

    AMAZING WORK! I actually watched the entire video -- start to finish! Keep it up!

  • @TheREALJosephTurner
    @TheREALJosephTurner10 ай бұрын

    I gotta say, I'm loving your long-form history videos. And I love that you keep it varied- I never know what gem I'm gonna get next. Keep up the awesome work!

  • @chriselizabeth8699
    @chriselizabeth869910 ай бұрын

    Amazing. So glad it was 2.5 hours I didn't want it to end. What a fascinating take on the subject to incorporate all the geography into this. Thanks man I'm watching it again tonight for a second time.

  • @SeanMunger

    @SeanMunger

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much!

  • @darkritualpass
    @darkritualpass10 ай бұрын

    Another amazing Sean video. As a lifelong LA resident who knows the places in the story well, this is a strong interpretation I think. Also touches on many of the most fascinating things in LA's history. Thank you for your amazing work, Sean!

  • @coryd2668
    @coryd26682 ай бұрын

    This content strangely crossed my path tonight and literally had no qualms instantly turning it on and playing it without a break! Like everything everyone says throughout the comments I agree with them all, including your tone of voice! Look forward to seeing what else you have in your repertoire!! 😊👍🏼

  • @bigwhoopi6764
    @bigwhoopi6764Ай бұрын

    This has to be the most in depth version of the entire Manson story ive ever heard. Very well done!😎✌️

  • @Kevin-Schmevin
    @Kevin-Schmevin10 ай бұрын

    So glad I watched until the end, great job throughout. I'm really glad I discovered your channel.

  • @jocykujo
    @jocykujo7 ай бұрын

    Just finished watching and omg this was so amazing from start to finish! I am very impressed by the undoubtedly countless hours of research and editing that went into this video. I would love to see a similar geographic history documentary on Richard Ramirez’ killing spree although I understand if you would prefer not to, due to the nature of the crimes and the fact that they occurred in LA which you already covered extensively. Anyways, I just wanted to say again that I am always floored by the quality of the content you put out

  • @talospriest3278
    @talospriest327810 ай бұрын

    Absolutely adore your long form content! The way you explain everything is perfect!would love to see more !!!

  • @lindamarie9269
    @lindamarie926910 ай бұрын

    This was absolutely fascinating! GREAT JOB , Sean! Thank you SO MUCH!

  • @XxCrystalPhoenix
    @XxCrystalPhoenix10 ай бұрын

    Manson documentary? Eh. Sean Munger made it. Oh? It's a GEOGRAPHY essay. OOH!

  • @saxonbucley7869
    @saxonbucley78696 ай бұрын

    Fascinating breakdown of the events. Really was more than just the murders, but all the events of the 1960’s culminated into the perfect storm for such a tragedy. Thank you for your work!!

  • @SeanMunger

    @SeanMunger

    6 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Music credits are listed at the end of the video.

  • @saxonbucley7869

    @saxonbucley7869

    6 ай бұрын

    Thank you!! After rewatching the video I noticed the credits, my apologies ✌🏿✌🏿

  • @stephendacey8761
    @stephendacey876110 ай бұрын

    Thank you for an outstanding video of the Manson story. I was blown away by this video from start to finish. There was not one boring chapter. I thought I heard everything about this horrifying story, but this video was way more in depth than all the others. I love your narrative style, and you have a great command of the English language, and show incredible work on every little detail. The presentation and organization skills to tell a story is superb. Keep up the wonderful work, and this channel will explode real fast.

  • @Legitpenguins99
    @Legitpenguins9910 ай бұрын

    I d been around KZread for a long time and I can tell this channel will hit 100k subscribers in a year if you keep putting out these long, well produced videos. I have no clue why your channel was so small for awhile but I'm glad your finally getting recognition for your work

  • @michaelgordon8763
    @michaelgordon876310 ай бұрын

    Thank you! A very original approach to telling a story through geography. I watched it all and was very intrigued.

  • @jeffgrayson7639
    @jeffgrayson763910 ай бұрын

    This is great content . I love the way you laid this out geographically, very unique. I will offer one bit of correction with regards to the shooting of Bernard Crowe. Manson did not send Tex to rip-off Crowe. Tex came up with the idea himself. Tex had been doing some low level dealing with his sometime girlfriend Roseana. Tex through Roseana arranged to sell a quantity of pot to Crowe. Roseana had no idea Tex was planning a rip-off. Once they got together Tex convinced Crowe to give him the money and he would go get the pot leaving Roseana behind as collateral. Tex left and went back to the ranch. Once Crowe realized Tex wasn't coming back he threatened Roseana and made her call Spahn ranch . Crowe took the phone and asked for Charles which is Tex real name. Nobody at the ranch called Tex Charles so the girl who answered the phone gave the phone to Manson. Crowe threatened to come to the ranch and kill everyone there if he didn't get his money or drugs. Manson agreed to meet him and the rest is history. Manson always stated that he had to clean upa mess that Tex made and that Tex owed him one.

  • @thesummerland6165

    @thesummerland6165

    Ай бұрын

    I've heard all of this also, and it's mind boggling had the charles' name confusion not occurred, how things may have unfolded differently

  • @camclarke7220
    @camclarke722010 ай бұрын

    Really like your approach to subjects - context heavy, thoroughly researched and fresh, unique perspectives. Also really enjoy playing 'what's that metal band' with your shirts! Thank you for all the work you do.

  • @pappy2690
    @pappy269010 ай бұрын

    Fascinating content as always, and I really appreciated the improved production value! Less corrections made for a very smooth and immersive experience

  • @kylemalinowski8343
    @kylemalinowski834310 ай бұрын

    This is top notch Sean! You're so easy to listen to and make history fun! Would love to take your classes.

  • @SeanMunger

    @SeanMunger

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much! 🙏

  • @jonathanfarquhar
    @jonathanfarquhar10 ай бұрын

    What a fascinating way to tell the story of the Manson family. Talking about the geography and spaces really helped keep the many events and places easier to follow and keep the narrative together. I hope you can make more history videos with a geography focus.

  • @bettyjones9220
    @bettyjones92206 ай бұрын

    omg….this was sooooo good…subscribed…am binge watching all of your videos….the photos, aerial views, top drawer info and fabulous delivery..🙂

  • @TheIpadfanatic
    @TheIpadfanatic2 ай бұрын

    One of the most thorough presentations of a subject matter that continues to fascinate me. You earned a sub and then some.

  • @CosetteTape
    @CosetteTape10 ай бұрын

    I think a restatement of the thesis might make it clearer, or at least it does to me. Manson was a perennial outsider and social deviant with delusions of grandeur that were specifically attached to getting into "The In-Crowd". He and his Family lived on the fringes of society, a decision that was looked upon not nearly as derisively in the social context of the 60's as it would be in other eras, but he wanted more than anything to live within the spaces he weaseled his way into for short amounts of time through connections. All that said, my restatement of the thesis is thus: Manson's position in the hinterlands, as well as his diagonal obsession with the wealthy neighborhoods he assaulted, were driven by his position as an outsider and a deviant who felt a deep need to be ingratiated into high society, and failing that felt an even greater need to destroy it.

  • @TheTiredPirate
    @TheTiredPirate10 ай бұрын

    This is not my cup of tea in the slightest; but I am absolutely liking and subscribing. You deserve every bit of support you can get for your hard work

  • @claybass3631
    @claybass36319 ай бұрын

    Wow... you did a lotta work here, bud! Appreciate you sharing it. It was, definitely, an interesting watch.

  • @priscillabrown7140
    @priscillabrown71407 ай бұрын

    This popped up on my you tube and I instantly clicked on it...new subscriber here ... I'm only a few minutes in the video and your commentary and description is great!!! Definitely going to check out other videos!!! Awesome job!!!!🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤

  • @dantherevelator
    @dantherevelator10 ай бұрын

    your content is absolutely phenomenal! thank you so much for sharing these projects - I am a member of Gen Z living in the UK, so even though the relevant history and geographical knowledge completely passed me by, this video was an incredibly interesting watch! :) it's clear you have passion for environmental history, and this has definitely given me a new lens with which to examine historical events. thank you!

  • @elimaurer9491
    @elimaurer949110 ай бұрын

    I look at Google Earth like I do the news. It's the most extraordinary reference tool - the Maxar renderings are incredible too. Great job again, Sean!

  • @maryrao2306
    @maryrao230610 ай бұрын

    Sean, Im so glad I stumbled on this video!! This was a masterful deep dive from a geological perspective, I thoroughly enjoyed it, and learned so much about LA and its somewhat spooky geograhical history. Thank you : )

  • @bobsyouruncle5086
    @bobsyouruncle508610 ай бұрын

    love your videos sean, just wanted to comment to help boost it a bit, you deserve all the views for these documentaries

  • @inappropriatejohnson
    @inappropriatejohnson10 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much. I hadn't intended to watch the whole thing, but here I am.........2-1/2 hours later. I can only imagine the effort that went into this essay. Ya got me hooked.

  • @Rambam1776
    @Rambam177610 ай бұрын

    Okay, I love this. Looking at historical places on Google Earth has long been a hobby and I've done the Manson tour but nothing like as good as this video.

  • @access2338-uj4zh
    @access2338-uj4zhАй бұрын

    Wow. This video is insanely well constructed. Great job and I wish you success.

  • @whitenoise3335
    @whitenoise33353 ай бұрын

    Hi Sean. Great channel. I remember reading your posts on the Braveboard a few years back. Glad your still around.

  • @wendybyle
    @wendybyle7 ай бұрын

    This is an outstanding documentary! It kept my interest the whole time. It’s definitely award-winning! Thank you.

  • @kevinkiso4579
    @kevinkiso457910 ай бұрын

    I absolutely love this idea as every documentary i find myself viewing - I'm constantly jumping over to Google Earth and locating the places that I'm seeing being documented.

  • @abbynormal206
    @abbynormal2066 ай бұрын

    GREAT JOB of storytelling! so much work has gone into this thanks!

  • @trevormathisen5158
    @trevormathisen51584 ай бұрын

    Sean, I’ve been binging your videos the past few weeks and I have to say, your work is incredible! Your thoroughness and attention to detail are unparalleled by anything else I’ve seen on this platform. I’m a huge history nerd, so I really appreciate your method to addressing these complex issues. (I’ve also been addicted to your Second Decade podcast lately haha.) Your channel has inspired me to try and make my own history content one day, but I have a lot to learn before that happens. Thank you so much for all you do!

  • @paultynan8705
    @paultynan870510 ай бұрын

    You got it backwards Tex Watson picked up Dennis Wilson while Hitchhiking. So said Tex Watson at his parole hearing.

  • @keiththorpe9571
    @keiththorpe957110 ай бұрын

    I've seen several documentaries in which former fellow inmates of Manson's were interviewed (career criminals themselves). From most of them, you get the same impression: He may have cultivated a talent for music as well as develop a gift for the gab (manipulating impressionable young people without much life experience and from disrupted homes like his own). However, beyond that, he was a bit of an idiot. The only times he avoided arrest for his crimes were entirely down to luck. To hear them tell it, he had absolutely no brains for successful criminality at all.

  • @SeanMunger

    @SeanMunger

    10 ай бұрын

    That seems clear. He wasn't really much good as a career criminal. I don't think any criminal organization, from the Mafia to a biker gang, would ever have employed him. He wasn't reliable.

  • @keiththorpe9571

    @keiththorpe9571

    10 ай бұрын

    @@SeanMungerYep. He also learned one of the most important lessons in Criminality 101 (the hard way, of course). To whit; if you're gonna employ unstable young drug abusers to commit your murders for you, they're almost certain to shoot their mouths off about it at some point in the not-too-distant future...Which is what Susan "Sadie" Adkins did when she was arrested for some b.s. little offense. Well, it's often been said: When it comes to making an arrest in a high-profile homicide, no amount of money, manpower, or investigative expertise can equal the offender you're looking for being stupid.

  • @amandalynn3490
    @amandalynn34907 ай бұрын

    I love your long form videos. I learn so much and they are so relaxing. Thank you!

  • @pippysalazar1760
    @pippysalazar176010 ай бұрын

    Ahh I’m so excited. I recently happened upon a few of your more recent projects and you’re doing great work. At least now I’ve got this and the back catalog to go through until next time haha. Thank you