If you're wondering about the Metal Gear Rising that pops up in corner at times, it's cuz an issue with recording left a useless white square there in some of the footage. Rerecording it would've delayed the video even further, but people suggested that I put something there in front of the square. So I decided on showing a better boss fight 🤭

@monkeydetonation

Жыл бұрын

Show me a good time Jack!

@yurilopes420

Жыл бұрын

bro wtf my friend showed me that mgr boss the other day exactly when i was talking to him about malenia im sorry but like regardless how much i love elden or how much you hate malenia's great rune, it's an undeniably better boss. like it's objective, there's no question about it. she's plain and simply a superior boss. " better boss fight" my ass. she can have a useless great rune but her fight is marvelous

@pamelotms5867

Жыл бұрын

@@yurilopes420 i agree as someone whos played both games.

@yurilopes420

Жыл бұрын

@@pamelotms5867 pamelo tms 5867 is a knower

@hardluckmk.52

Жыл бұрын

7:28 Me dealing with bungie’s bs: “First time?”

I like how Elden ring always has upsides like 4% more dmg %5 more resistance but when it comes to downsides its always like -30% healing +50% dmg taken .

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Minmaxing, emphasis on min.

@mrbones9332

Жыл бұрын

Minminning

@prehistoriccreator9600

Жыл бұрын

Not really, like, there are only a few like that, such as the scorpion charms, sorseals/scarseals, Howl of Shabriri, and the occasional armor piece. All of these combined are like less than 5% of everything in the game that provides buffs.

@TheStraightestWhitest

Жыл бұрын

It's the Dark Souls of games with % buffs.

@SorowFame

Жыл бұрын

@@prehistoriccreator9600 they’re saying that when there’s a downside it’s a massive downside while buffs tend to be rather minimal, not that every item has a downside like that.

And lets not forget By the time you get this great rune, you will literally have beaten just about everything worth fighting in the game Meaning you’ll get in just in time for it to NOT carry over into NG+ Seriously the weirdest decision imo

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Theoretically that could be better once the DLC is out, but that would only help if it was worth using in the first place.

@jacobfreeman5444

Жыл бұрын

Think the point of it was to be something to spice up end game PvP. But they still implemented it in such a sub par way no one with sense will do so. Basically the Rune is overpowered in Millenia's hands but hot garbage in yours.

@Shiresquad

Жыл бұрын

Your idea of what's worth fighting or not is an opinion. Over 100 bosses, a dozen or more unique fights, and endless pvp encounters. Having a great rune you can switch to besides others is more than welcome, regardless of when you can get it.

@oneluv66

Жыл бұрын

@@jacobfreeman5444 wait, you can use great ruins in PvP?

@michaelbowman6684

Жыл бұрын

@@oneluv66 No, you can't, which is (imo) kind of stupid. What's the point of the Great Runes if they essentially function as crappy replacement for Embers that don't get replenished after every boss (maybe for ER they could have made it replenish for every _major_ boss instead) and have almost 0 creative designs about them that fit the lore of the demi-god they are based on. Morgott is just more health, Radahn is just more health (plus stamina and FP), Rykard is just more health but crappy, Malenia is just more health but even crappier, Mohg's is the most creative but kind of shit anyway because it requires you to be a bleed build to even function and it has a pretty big health tax to even activate for no good reason, and Godrick is by far the best one because you get it the earliest and stat requirements exist for a lot of weapons and spells, so 40 free stats is great for testing things out (on paper) without investing real levels. Once those 40 free levels are no longer useful, Morgott's is probably the best one because it's the one that gives you the most extra health for no extra effort.

I can't count the amount of times I sat there and suddenly thought "oh yeah! Great runes are a thing!" and then proceeded to forget about them again

@BoosterUM

Жыл бұрын

Most of them are pretty good and useful. Mohg's is situational but OP if you're a smart bleed builder. Melenia's the only one that really sucks

@AgentChick

Жыл бұрын

The only one that ever seemed remotely worth using for me was Morgott's, because it was pretty much just an ember from DS3, lol. Good to use when I felt like I had a pretty good idea of how a boss worked, and wanted to give myself a significant edge to finish it off.

@willbridges7132

Жыл бұрын

The only one I even ever used is godricks

@BoosterUM

Жыл бұрын

@@willbridges7132 you gotta upgrade bro

@Akita23

Жыл бұрын

Shoutouts to my vanilla playthrough using like 5 rune arcs at most cause I kept dying in stupid ways and didn't wanna waste a limited resource for an unworthy death, ended up just stopping using them by the time I beat rennala and radahn (with morgott/godrick dead but those were it for major things, as soon as I hit altus I pretty much forgot they existed until subsequent plays with mods)

I mean the design of great runes are kinda disappointing I hoped that they would give you a small permanent buff and rune arcs would give you access to Thier full power for 5 minutes. Also I killed Malenia before setting the fire to the erd tree.

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's definitely possible to beat Melania before finishing Farum Azula, but then the difficulty progression is very out of whack. And yeah they definitely are underwhelming.

@TossMesh

Жыл бұрын

Same I killed melania before finishing Daryl Azusa

@TossMesh

Жыл бұрын

Farum azula

@nightstrike7870

Жыл бұрын

@@TossMesh daryl azuza

@sono1951

Жыл бұрын

@@pikmonwolf "difficulty progression" you mean not knowing the attacks???

I also wanna point out, at later NG+ cycles, where getting to Malenia early enough you can get some actual use out of the Rune is more plausible, enemies will be chunking you for so much of your health that it's literally impossible to heal back an amount of HP to make the difference between dying in 2 or 3 hits. Plus the fact that at that point you're needing 2 flasks to recover from most hits, and the Rune reduces their effectiveness, it gets more useless as you go on too

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Even without NG+ that's an issue. I tried getting footage in the Mountaintops of the Giants for the rune but kept dying way too quickly because enemies deal so much damage and the rune was too shit for me to depend on it to stay alive.

@matyasselmek3673

Жыл бұрын

@@pikmonwolf unfortunately the only use this rune has is in just one build, and that's Malenia build where you spam the Waterfowl Dance and even then it feels kinda meh.

@thevikingbear2343

Жыл бұрын

Malenia's real Waterfowl dance is probably the Best Move in the game, and when we use it, it is "Waterfowl at home" meaning it is bad. Everything, literally everything can stop us and knocks us out of Waterfowl, unlike Malenia which is impossible to stop once she started it . (There is a tiny window before she starts the dance when if your throw her a freeze pot, it knockes her out of the waterfowl, but one frame too late and you wasted the pot.)

@grimreefer213

10 ай бұрын

⁠@@thevikingbear2343Both of Melania’s remembrance items are shit. Such a disappointment. They should’ve just made the Hand of Melania broken, you literally get it at the end of the game and have to defeat the most broken boss to get it.

Honestly with how it is malania in particular...it makes me wonder if it was tested at all or if it was a deal of "ah crap we're running out of time what do we stick on the last rune? Rallying people liked that but we need to make sure it is not too strong so stick a estus debuff on it"

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't surprise me, there's a lot in the last third of the game or so that feels very poorly thought out.

@JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia

Жыл бұрын

They went for an absurdly long game but half of it is repeated bosses, half cooked mechanics, and hanged attacks. Disappointing.

@ngotemna8875

Жыл бұрын

​@@pikmonwolf I mean, that's every Fromsoft game essentially The last third is always just hastely cobbled together 🤷‍♂️

@kokorochacarero8003

Жыл бұрын

I am Malenia, Blade of Izalith

@dodojesus4529

Жыл бұрын

Thats very mvuh how waterfowl feels to me, its like they were done with the boss realized she was roo easy and slapped this version on her, resulting in a bizarrely balanced boss

The only time I saw this rune actually do anything was when I jokingly suggested to a streamer who was doing Torch Only who had beaten Malenia but not Rykard yet, to use Malenia's rune to basically negate the lava on Rykard. It... actually worked.

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Ah, finally, the intended use of the rune lol.

@dylanstump7389

Жыл бұрын

"jokingly"

@austinjerome5447

Жыл бұрын

It also works for mimic tear. It wont use your hp. It becomes a free Summon XD

@abrahamrangel2326

Жыл бұрын

I dont get it, his lava staggers how can he hit him to recover hp?

@onagda

Жыл бұрын

@@abrahamrangel2326 stagger, R1, stagger, R1 It was a very slow process

you know its fucked when Rykard "the way to kill me is literally on the floor in my boss room" Demigod has a straight upgrade to Malenias rune in practical use

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

His rune is by far the most underrated.

@xandervalentine8285

Жыл бұрын

@@pikmonwolf it doesn't really help during a boss though

@madamenox2765

Жыл бұрын

I love Rykard, he’s my favorite. TOGETHAAAAAA WE WILL DEVOUORRR

@thevikingbear2343

Жыл бұрын

It's not just in the floor of the room. It shines and is standing upright so you can't possibly not notice it is there.

@whirlwind872

Жыл бұрын

​@@madamenox2765 man, I thought that he had the worst voice acting in the game. It rips me out of my immersion every time and I just cringe at the performance

On a first playthrough, discovering the Tower of Return transporter is definitely a really cool moment, especially seeing the Erdtree up close for the first time.

@fredbyoutubing

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely, and I had not unlocked the top map so it's also finding out how far I was and how big the game world was that blew my mind.

@samf.s.7731

Жыл бұрын

Yeah you just end up in Leyndell all of a sudden... Must have been a moment

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

It's definitely cool, I don't dislike the tower. I dislike the fact that it's required if you approach the game a certain way.

@DanteTorn

Жыл бұрын

@@samf.s.7731 I got chills seeing the Erdtree up close for the first time like that.

@AveragePearEnjoyer

Жыл бұрын

Bruh, my level 17 ass got sent to the depths of crystalline hell with no fast travel after getting mist trapped in stupid ass dragon burnt ruins. (I thought caelid/the swamp of aeonia was an alternate dimension before i found the map LMAO) So i encountered the tower mist trap and dodge rolled out of the way and left disappointed. I legitimately assumed they were all a "fuck you" to the player. I had a fair amount of runes at the time so I didn't want to risk it & promptly forgot about it. Tbh 100 hours in i still feel a tinge of relief when i see an actual item inside.

Honestly I think it needs one of two things: To recover HP when you deal damage regardless on whether or not you got hit first, like how Malenia does with you. Albeit not too much HP of course. Or to be heavy reworked to be more in line with the rally system of BB.

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, you get so little HP from a hit that it really wouldn't be OP if it just worked universally.

@archiveroftheeast

Жыл бұрын

Butchering knife literally already does this Why can't Malenia's rune do it?

@tsukikofudo3838

Жыл бұрын

just make the great rune a literal copy of the "Godskin Swaddling Cloth" when active. You can combo it with the Godskin Swaddling Cloth to incentivize a recklessly aggressive playstyle revolving around successive attacks to gain hp back.

@ashiv7642

Жыл бұрын

I mean rykards great rune is just a buffed takers cameo, so Malenias being similar to swaddling cloth and stackable wouldnt even be that bad, not to mention as stated the rune is worthless in every aspect, you get better health sustain from the blessed tew talisman...

@mrringtalesworkshop

Жыл бұрын

I came here to make this same comment.

I think the grace being there is so we could restore miquellas great rune when the new dlc drops

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

I guess, but it still could've been at the entrance lol

just make the great rune a literal copy of the "Godskin Swaddling Cloth" when active. You can combo it with the Godskin Swaddling Cloth to incentivize a recklessly aggressive playstyle revolving around successive attacks to gain hp back.

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Not a bad idea, would've been way better than what we got.

@grimreefer213

Жыл бұрын

That would’ve been way better. I mean come on, Elden Ring is the game with all sorts of overpowered and broken mechanics, why not make the great rune from the literal hardest boss in the game actually powerful and give people an incentive to use it? By the time you fight Melania it’s so late into the game activating it at all is essentially pointless. Melania’s gear and great rune should’ve been a victory lap and a congratulations that you beat the game, it should’ve been way better than it is

@ryker2895

Жыл бұрын

This is exactly what it should’ve been. The boss literally drops a weapon that would combo perfectly into this sort of build

@Rowe4900candymachine

Жыл бұрын

Or run it with butchering knife, prelate's charge, flame grant me strength, lord of blood's exultation, fire scorpion, fire shrouding cracked tear, and bloodflame blade. To maximize the funniest gimmick build in game. It stunlocks malenia too.

@grimreefer213

Жыл бұрын

@@Rowe4900candymachine Nice

The saddest part of all of this, which you might have mentioned, but I didn't hear, is that because Malenia is so late in the game, you would barely get any use out of her great rune even if it was good. It would be like if Radagon gave you a great rune that increased your damage by 10%. Sure, it is strong, but what good is it for since you beat the game? And to top all of this off, YOU CANT KEEP GREAT RUNES INTO NG+ CYCLES. I know there is a gameplay and lore reason, that being the fact that the great runes are key items that are directly linked to game progression, but it kills some of the joy of NG+, which to me was where you would take your build back to the beginning, but it would be scaled up so you aren't too strong. A build that utilized godrick, rykard, or malenia's great runes before would be neutered until they got them back, which, guess what? Doesn't happen until late in the game. I love these games, but I always see places where they could do even better. This is one of those places.

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's pretty dumb. I didn't dive into that because I hadn't done a proper NG+ playthrough. After beating the game I decided to do a fresh one and keep my finished save intact for DLC.

@sanguineregis5354

Жыл бұрын

I feel like adding a "Memory of a great rune" that let you equip the effects in ng+ without actually having the great rune would be nice

@negative6442

Жыл бұрын

I've got 400 hours in ER (almost all of it in NG+ cycles) and never bothered with getting any of the runes after the first run precisely because of this. Unless I'm doing a new character, in which case I'll grab Godricks and leave it at that.

@decoydecoy2255

Жыл бұрын

60% of the video was crying about how late it is in the game

@s8theninjawarrior916

Жыл бұрын

What would be a great way I think would be to keep ONE great rune in NG+ the one that's equipped, all the others dissapear, at least that way you'd still need to fight a rune bearer but you'd still have your entire build

It's honestly hilarious how one of if not the hardest great rune to get in the game is about on par with a talisman found in a random cave. Having goofed off with both, the Godskin Swaddling Cloth feels overall far more useful than her great rune while also not requiring me to use a rune arc. Even when paring her rune with her sword, it is mid at best as either you stagger them too much to swing back at you or you trade poorly thanks to high late game damage output and fairly quick combos.

@vyor8837

Жыл бұрын

Meh, she's easy

@juancontreras7491

Жыл бұрын

​@@vyor8837wow congrats you're so good

Lets not forget that you get this in late game and that no boss in late game lets you hit consistently after taking damage

Morgott's is severely underrated

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Can never go wrong with a fat HP boost.

@thein-bedgamer9735

Жыл бұрын

​@@pikmonwolf fat hp buff and the life steal i could just fix it with rykard sword and big poise

@MrcreeperDXD777

Жыл бұрын

25% more HP is a godsend for the hellhole that is elden ring endgame

@UnseenHitman-1932

Жыл бұрын

I think it's the best one.

@EIHuevoCosmic

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it is my favorite for when Im late into the game and Godricks rune isnt so useful anymore

In short, use Rykards that restores 80 +7% Hp after anything dies in your vicinity. It also stack with his weapons and the Serpent God's Sword

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. It's just way more reliable.

The point about Graces being INSIDE the towers most of the time really resonated with me. I never understood the point of putting a grace in a place that you'll most likely only visit once and never again, since the whole point is to restore a great rune (that you'll probably not even use).

Malenia gets to heal off every hit with her Great Rune and decimate everything around her with Waterfowl. Meanwhile, the Tarnished can use the exact same moves and get laughably bad results. This actually feels like FromSoft trolling us, which is not entirely out of character for them.

@deletekeys

10 ай бұрын

Malenia's great rune doesn't give her healing on attacks. Malenia's great rune is actually corrupted by the rot which is why its blessing actually hurts the bearer. Healing on hit is a Malenia thing which is why the great rune only gets a fraction of that power. "The blessing of this half-rotted rune reduces the healing power of Flask of Crimson Tears. And yet, due to the infusion of Malenia's spirit of resistance. attacks made immediately after receiving damage will partially recover HP" She's so op, she buffed her own fucking rune instead of getting a buff from it.

@Quantumact2908

8 ай бұрын

@@deletekeys yeah, but it doesnt excuse how laughably bad it is for how late ingame it is to get, and especially for how difficult her fight is for most dont get me wrong, i absolutely am in love with the lore of fromsoft's games, but it doesnt give the great rune a pass on being absolutely awful for how youre meant to get it

@deletekeys

8 ай бұрын

@@Quantumact2908 I 100% agree. When you go to the divine tower to active her great rune, they could have easily slid in some "cleansing effect" that gave her rune more access to its original "sacred" power. It should in fact be the strongest rune in the game. They could justify dialing back the rot after the rune was separated from her and brought to the tower in order to buff it in game without skipping a beat lore wise. Best part is they already explained that the regen is a Malenia feature, so making the runes actual benefit go in whatever direction they want is entirely up to them and fair game. Hope with the coming dlc they add a way to cleanse it through Miquella or change it altogether so that it's worth a damn.

Imo great runes should be replenished after every boss. This would create a cool gameplay loop of getting stuck on a hard boss, going to do some side content, and then coming back with a bit of a buff, making all of the small bosses much more worthwhile to engage with Edit: I think a lot of the Tower of Return nonsense can be explained by oversight: Leyndell, Ashen Capital is an entirely different area from Leyndell, Royal Capital, so transferring any element of progress would require specific scripting to work. That's why the bonfire gets unlit and the golem respawns; they aren't the same bonfire and golem, but duplicates.

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Obviously I don't know how to work the engine, but I'm pretty sure it would just be a simple If/Then statement.

@vyor8837

Жыл бұрын

​@@pikmonwolf depends on how their checks work.

@augustday9483

Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of Dark Souls 3, how you'd always get Embered after defeating a boss. I liked that system, it felt like a reward for making progress and gave you a buff to help with the next area you step into. Getting a free rune arc activation after beating bosses in Elden Ring would be great, and it'd make even the most pointless cave boss feel fun.

@vyor8837

Жыл бұрын

@@augustday9483 and then you get invaded and lose it.

@reggieisnotadog4841

Жыл бұрын

@@pikmonwolf You'd think, but the indications are that their engine is a MESS. For example in Gideon's boss fight he uses different spells depending on which bosses you've killed, but they can't even have it say 'if you've fought Malenia use the Rot spell'. Instead their are eight different Gideon's hidden out of sight that each have a set of spells, and it teleports a different one in depending on how many bosses you've beaten. This implies that there's something really fucking weird about If statements in their engine. It can be used to teleport in a certain Gideon, but it can't be used to tell a single Gideon not to use certain spells unless you've beaten the example boss. It's an objectively terrible way to do it, and whenever I see someone praise them for their hacky 'workarounds' in a Zullie video I just want to scream that those work arounds shouldn't be necessary in a modern game engine.

It kinda sucks that Malenia's rune is the literal "Unlock a new mechanic" rune, but hers is the one that sucks the most. I wish you at least had the ability to carry over great runes to NG+ (I get why, since the Leyndell wall locks you out until you have two, but still), since then you could have a build with it in mind and experience the entire game with that mechanic. But you need to kill at least Morgott and another shardbearer, Draconic 1, Godfrey shade, Nile, Loretta, and Malenia. And that's the bare minimum before you can even try to build around the rune's effect.

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Yeah You get it so late for something that you need to use as the absolute core of a build for it to be a benefit instead of a nerf.

@sasaki999pro

Жыл бұрын

I DON'T get why, its a stupid and assinine decision in game design. Why shouldn't we be able to go to the capital immediately on NG+, NG+ isn't canon. That'd be like removing the boss weapons from your inventory because it contradicts the lore. Its not even like any of the rune bearers are essential; the capitol event flags work just fine regardless of which pair of demigods you slay. Honestly gating off Leyndell was a stupid decision in the first place, if they're were going to copy Breath of the Wilds homework and give the player freedom to go anywhere , they could've atleast taken the coolest feature, the ability to challenge the final boss right at the start.

This is definitely cheese but on my first playthrough I did access the rest of Leyndell from the Divine Tower warp. You can use the Taunter Tongue to attract invaders. They can trigger the elevator from below to reach you, and that lets you take the elevator back down. Not sure if they patched this or not in the current version.

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Oh that's genius and frankly hilarious, I hope it isn't patched.

@ygorschuma3059

Жыл бұрын

​​@@pikmonwolf It wasn't patched, and better yet, there's another cheesy way to do so by making said invader parry or guard break you on the edge of the elevator, followed by a riposte, if the positioning is right, both will fall to the bottom of the elevator and not take damage. Ripostes actually negate all fall damage and this works in any place in the game, given said place isn't an abyss or has a death barrier.

@xristoskoumpourlis1614

Жыл бұрын

@@ygorschuma3059 you can also take the physick that explodes and the explosion will force the game to recalculate the fall height so if done perfectly you will not take any damage other than the explosion

@fawazahmed4978

Жыл бұрын

wait so you can kill morgott before killing any runebearers? can we burn erdtree with only one demigod dead

@hannahshark8080

Жыл бұрын

This didn't work for me and my friend a few days ago. Taunters tongue was unusable above the elevator.

If it at the VERY LEAST allowed you to regen 10-20% more health than the damage dealt per hit, I think it would be fine even with the abysmal returns, because then if you DO manage to get it all back, or are atleast taking trades, you can potentially keep the regen going. Or, just make it literally bloodborne rally.... which does everything I said above. If it WAS bloodborne rally, the nerf to flasks would be a fine balancing aspect because poise monsters with medium/combo weapons would be nigh-invincible

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Well said. It's kinda sad that "just copy paste the thing you made before" would've been preferable though lol.

@pleaserespond3984

Жыл бұрын

@@pikmonwolf FromSoft have a peculiar tendency to iterate and change mechanics that they have already perfected, e.g. poise since Dark Souls 1.

@spidersae2wswd54

Жыл бұрын

yo,furry

I would also like to point out how the runes don't even get carried over to NG+. So that means on every run, you kinda have to do both 1) Kill Malenia 2) Access the elevator/Get Death Rune in order to even start using it ... ON EVERY RUN. Both of these tasks are very hard to do even on NG+ upwards because of all the blockages that are already there in even getting to Malenia and will always will be an absolute endgame item. At which point, where am I even gonna use this mechanic? on fucking spirit caller cave godskins? Simply letting us have the unactivated great runes carry over to NG+ will atleast somewhat make it worth it but I guess they just said, oh shit we need to have some great rune for her, "but what if players love it and want it every time?" , "I know, Let's just make it so bad that no one will want it in the first place"

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's pointlessness on top of pointlessness.

I gotta admit that I never noticed the issues with getting to the Divine Tower myself, on my first run I ended up hitting the Consecrated Snowfield and beyond before fighting the Fire Giant. My logic was that it looked like a point of no return so I should finish everything else in the Lands Between I had access to before taking on the Flame of Ruin. So I did, I ground my way through Ordona Town quickly because I remembered about the torch that reveals invisible enemies and Great bows hard counter the Albinauric archers. Then I got to the Halligtree and fought and leveled my way through that and was a bit surprised by how quickly the Fire Giant went down.

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that's the thing, if you play that way then the difficulty curve is completely borked. With everything being way easier after Malenia.

@ryder98307

Жыл бұрын

@@pikmonwolf Not really, I did Haligtree just before Crumbling Farum Azula and the difficulty felt just right

@asdergold1

Жыл бұрын

​@@ryder98307 Did you explore?

I like to think that FromSoft is aware that people are only killing Malenia due to the challenge of it, and rarely they might want to opt out of the Frenzied Flame on a botched first playthrough. So they're also probably aware that her great rune isn't at all want people are fighting her for, especially when you consider that you can beat the game with only three great runes and it's literally impossible to fight her without having at least three great runes anyway. Also, this is just my opinion, but I feel like her great rune does what it does mostly for lore reasons rather than gameplay ones.

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

I mean, I could see arguing that the debuff represents the rot's toll on you. But she heals so much per hit, whereas the rune barely gives you anything.

@Ghost12314

Жыл бұрын

Wait didn't you need 2 great runes instead of 3 to finished the game?

@JustCallMeKart

Жыл бұрын

@@Ghost12314 You need two to get into the capital, and killing Morgott will get you a third

@JustCallMeKart

Жыл бұрын

@@pikmonwolf Yeah it's definitely not equivalent to her insane healing but again I do feel like it's probably just due to lore, I've seen some theories that she can slow her rot by healing herself since Miquella did something to her unalloyed gold armour and sword, though it was a long time ago and I don't really have a source I still just think FromSoft is aware that people aren't really killing bosses to get great runes, they're doing it because it's a FromSoft game, and bosses are the most fun part of them

@TheFool...

Жыл бұрын

​@@Ghost12314 you need 2 great runes to access the morgott fight then you will get a third rune from him so assuming you didn't cheat the least amount of runes you can beat the game with is three

Those two teleporter traps in the early game got me excited thinking there would be more and that I could be transported to any part of the game at any time and get to face more difficult areas before I was ready. That was one of my favorite things about the souls series was trying to fight my way through an end game area to try and get some loot, but eldenring didn't really implement it like I through they were.

I think I have a theory as to why her tower in particular is more annoying to access Despite Malenina's demigod status, she and Miquella aren't connected to the Golden Order, thus why hers is isolated and has the roadblocks that it has

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

That makes sense, but some of the choices are arbitrary like making you re-find the divine bridge grace.

@alfalldoot6715

Жыл бұрын

Are you telling me Rykard then is connected to the Golden Order?

@jeff3221

Жыл бұрын

They are literally the children of Marika and Radagon. Marika the Goddess and Radagon of The Golden Order... see that last part where their dad's title has Golden Order in it? That means they are deeply connected to it. Sure, they end up doing their own thing but the towers were constructed before the shattering, evident by Ranni's burnt corpse being atop her Divine Tower.

@pharaohbubbles1547

Жыл бұрын

@@jeff3221 perhaps they disconnected from it sometime before the Shattering

@ihatehandleupdate

Жыл бұрын

Rykard literally has "blasphemous" in his title and is against the erdtree, yet his tower is still kinda accesible

Imagine how pissed off this guy is going to be whenever he discovers the reward for defeating kalameet in dark souls 1 😂

@isaiahwoodward5831

Жыл бұрын

Except you're not meant to use the calamity ring and you get one of the best weapons in the game by cutting his tail.

@kimjanek646

Жыл бұрын

@@isaiahwoodward5831 Maybe it’s for people who want to activate red tearstone ring all the time 😂

@Lord_necromancer

Жыл бұрын

@@isaiahwoodward5831 oh, they knew damn good and well that people would use the calamity ring 🤣 it's Dark Souls. Anything that can be done to make it harder the players will do.

Fromsoft: let's make Malenia's rune the worst and the tower entrance a headache to get back to. After all, it's the friends we made along the way...

I feel the worst sin of this is the fact it WILL disappear after starting new game plus. Which tbh i do enjoy collecting the runes again but Malenia’s is so far out there I have no idea why youd want it unless for DLC

I remember my 1st playthrough of Elden Ring, I took the "open-world" tag seriously, so instead of going straight to the Stormveil Castle and onto Godrick (like most did) I took the hard right to Caelid, only to find myself into a shithole of shitty weaponry that didnt match my build and farming enemies in the Caelid Tower (also got stuck in the mineshaft), later in the game, I managed to defeat Radahn BEFORE Godrick, then went straight to Raya Lucaria, and so on to Morgott Until that moment, I was using Radahns rune to compensate levels and, of course, its the best rune I got as of now, so the majority of my playthrough I was using Radahns I go on in the game and find myself just before Maliketh, then I made the decision of turning back to Stormveil (sounded good to me) Cake walk, I go to face Godrick, defeat him, and get the best rune of the fucking game, the best one, when Im about to finish the game itself I said the same thing "WHY THE FUCK THE DEVS PUT THE BEST GODDAMN RUNE IN THE GAME RIGHT HERE AND THE OTHERS ARE JUST PURE SHIT" In anyway, kept playing and eventually finished the game, but I still cant get out of my head the fact that I sucked so much dick exploring the "open-world" to just realize this dick sucking would´ve been way to easier if I didnt skip the 1st zone in the game

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

And the sad thing is, you got Godricks juuuuust as Radahn's finally outshines it.

@SoteriaSys

Жыл бұрын

Pure shit? Thats a reach

@Syllights

Жыл бұрын

That's kind of your fault, skipping the starting area and damn near finishing the game before going back

So I've been thinking about on how the weakest Demigod gives you the best Great Rune. When looking from the perspective of the Demigods themselves, on what they need, I guess it makes sense. Godrick is the weakest of the bunch so he would need the biggest crutch. Along with his crafting, it was probably the only thing that made him somewhat strong.

This should've been a Crystal Tear for the Wondrous Physick at most! Truly, what were they thinking making this the Great Rune's Ability from one of the game's hardest bosses that is also fought in the endgame?

I always thought the great runes in general were all mehhh

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, like I said I think it should be a permenant buff that gives you the ability to access new areas. Like Say once you have Godricks you can use waygates or something in that vein.

@TheFabledDavid

Жыл бұрын

​@pikmonwolf Oh, I never even thought about using them as traversal mechanics. That would be cool.

I've never played Elden Ring, but you explain everything in a really easy to follow way. Cheers.

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad! I try to make my videos with people who don't know the game well in mind, while also not feeling super redundant to people who do know it.

Mohgs great rune will buff the mimic tear. You're welcome

Sad but true, you make many good points! I was so excited for a Bloodborne build that I rushed a whole NG+ cycle (after learning you don't take 'em with you), but finally seeing the Great Rune's actual (lack of) effectiveness put that nightmare to rest 😹🧐🔥

use endure then hold R2 and trade with the boss, not only will you have up to 50-70% damage mitigation but also gain back a bunch of HP with malenias great rune. The R2s mean you do a lot of stagger damage, and malenias great rune restores 100% of HP lost from the previous hit when you do a critical, so you can restore a lot of HP if you play it right. Its definitly not worthless but its not obscenely OP either, i would say its inline with the other great runes, its good situationally. Use with a swaddling cloth and a twinblade to restore even more HP and you can have a vampire like build where you are tanky and restoring HP pretty well. 2 hand Tank + HP restore build can get pretty crazy tbh.

This was a really great breakdown, and I appreciate your deserved befuddlement at the circumstances surrounding even achieving Malenia’s Great Rune. Malenia is just a vortex around which several poor design choices circulate in Elden Ring.

Fromshills will unironically think "skill issue" is a legitimate argument for this aswell. They hate and refuse to take any criticism of their favorite games seriously.

@maniac7302

Жыл бұрын

I have yet to see a skill issue comment that wasn’t bait

@kynesovos8580

Жыл бұрын

@@maniac7302 sometimes I don't tend to believe it's bait, I see it as detracting from the actual point with the only argument they know that annoys people so they don't have to form an actual argument. It's sort of like when someone pretends to be stupid, I'd rather hold them to that act and call them stupid and not let them claim it was an act, solely for wasting peoples time.

This video is the definition of screenwriting. The slow build up of anger and rage. *Chef's kiss*

I love your enthusiasm👏

I was disappointed how bad Malenias great rune was but still kinda excited to use it in a build from the start in NG+! Then i saw that great runes dont carry over into NG+ and was completely astounded by that stupid decision

I personally used Godrick's rune throughout the entire game. Getting +5 to all stats is massive, especially in the early game.

This video and ur channel r gonna blow up in the next couple days

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Hey fingers crossed lol

just tell us how you feel man :) gg loved the rage

Great Runes effect should be a passive ability that once you activate it, it doesn't matter if you die, the effect continues, and Malenia rune should allow you to return Health independent of taking damage, this way it would encourage lots of other combat forms, and the heal should be attached to damage and movement, it would be soo much better, imagine the Pizza Wheel or Bloodhound Step with it

@whirligig_saw

6 ай бұрын

its not like the runes are op , just a bonus to stats that would help you in pve and in pvp would just be deactivated

So, when talking about the tower of return, you can actually get into roundtable hold this way, PROVIDED you've progressed far enough in the game that you are allowed access to leyndell...ie, on my first playthrough, I got into leyndell using the tower of return and the lift there because I didn't do the weeping peninsula until after getting to altus and killing radahn. It actually made progression in leyndell confusing as hell because all the guides were written as if you came the normal way

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Are you sure? Because in my testing that wasn't the case?

@socialjihad5724

Жыл бұрын

@@pikmonwolf They may have patched it then...I remember I had to pull the lever to bring the lift up which was noteworthy at the time since usually the game's lifts start at your level. This was before I had done any of Leyndell. Edit: I MAY have accessed the first capital ramparts site of grace via the deeproot portal (I never had to fight draconic tree sentinel to get in) so that might have been the trigger...or like I said, maybe they just had forgotten to code the lift to be one way, but I know for certain that this was how I accessed the real world roundtable hold

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

@@socialjihad5724 Who knows, both the human memory and FromSoft games are very fickle lmao

Something that occurred to me... difficulties in activating the rune aside, could it be *deliberately* bad? The rune is, after all, rotten - just as Malenia herself. I believe the lore hints, in several places, that despite the terrible power that the Crimson Rot imparted her with, Malenia would ultimately have been even stronger if it hadn't been sapping her strength. In other words, she's fighting you with a *handicap* - and your prize for defeating her is to inherit that handicap. By that line of thinking, using Malenia's Greatrune would be something like a self-imposed challenge...

@MostafaAhmed-bp7ce

Жыл бұрын

Bad game design is bad game design even if it benefits the story

@tylerlackey1175

Жыл бұрын

@@MostafaAhmed-bp7ce elden drones do not comprehend

To those that say Malenia's great rune is worthless were you ever consider combine the rune with blood build and see what happens next?

Honestly having all great runes just active all at once would make it exponentially better, more impactful and actually fun to go around the lands between to collect them all. I would also like if Godrick's, Radahn's and Morgott's rune would have a different effect than what is bassically stat boosting. Give Godrick the ability to jump higher or infuse your weapons or make it so you can pick up fallen enemies as a shield. Make Radahn's great rune nullify one requirement on one piece of equipment, be it a spell or a weapon. (Similar to what he did for Leonard (his horse).) Make Morgott's great rune be an HP regen like the Erdtree did in the lore. Maybe also make it boost other Regens or give the player tha ability to climb or do double jumps. Having great runes be such a unique effect and all active would feel like a massive powerboost while also still keeping things relatively balanced through game progression.

I feel like it's meant to be done with a max phy def build. There is a spell called Black Flame's Protection which also reduces estus recovery. When used with golden vow, good armor and the opaline hardtear crystal tear, you can get up to 76% phy def. At this point enemies barely even damage you and you have the poise to tank through most hits outside of really big hits. Allowing you to just keep hitting them though their attacks and healing off the damage with the great rune never having to even use flasks. When you combo it with blessed dew talisman, the icon shield and the crimson burst crystal tear you pretty much become a walking tank. However, due to the rune being pretty much mostly a post game option and losing the rune in NG+. It does all seem a bit... waste of timeish?

The last time I went to the isolated tower, there was a huge pool of bloodstains and messages of people who jumped off, which everyone's fine doing because the site of grace is right there on the top of the tower. It's a ritual dying spot there, just for the giggles :)

I would love to try a full play through with this rune active

It would be a really cool system if it removed half of your flasks and had increased healing, meaning, you can recover lost flasks, and well it would be useful somewhat, idk

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

That's an interesting idea. Better than what we ended up getting for sure lol

The Great Runes are the best example of how unfinished the game is. They should be a game changing mechanic, given how Rune Arcs are an uncommon consumable. But they're so lame. The game could have done with a few more months in development to iron out the scaling, cut questlines, bosses, Great Runes, and a few other miscellaneous things like optimisation, clunky npc interactions (why do you need to exhaust dialogue, then reload an area just for an npc to drop their items?).

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. I think making them like the runes in Dead Cells would've been way better.

@maniac7302

Жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure a few quest lines were cut due to conflict with lore an re writes like kale

@ITBEurgava

Жыл бұрын

​@@maniac7302 and that leyndell mohg.

@ryder98307

Жыл бұрын

Most of those things you mentioned are not a problem or an indication of unfinished game, A lot of cut content is cut for an actual reason not because they ran out of time or resources or etc... and a lot of cut content concerns Malenia and Miquella which most probably will be expanded upon on DLC

@jeff3221

Жыл бұрын

​@@ryder98307 Let's see what I listed. Balancing issues with Great runes, bosses and general difficulty scaling. And then cut quests, clunky npc interactions, and poor optimization. Explain how most of those will be fixed with DLC and how that shows the game was finished at launch

Players: "Fromsoft, we want bloodborne!" FS: "we have bloodborne at home" BLoodborne at home: *Malenia's great rune*

This video needs all the views in the world and I hope to the outer gods that enough people complain that a patch occurs

bro is really mad at walking for like a min

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

It's a stupid walk!

Imagine if miquellas great rune just de aggros all enemies because everyone loves him lol

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Has the downside of attracting blood cultists lol

@ccc2839

Жыл бұрын

60% chance of getting invaded by blood cultist

Well said, very well said. This is exactly how iv felt about the whole thing myself too forever.

"4min in" point to make in this regard. i was once invaded in this spot the invader spawned in the lower area and brought the elevator up therefore allowing me permenant access to it for that play through, was my first encounter with the iron maidens

Abd by the time you unlock Malenia's Rune, the game is basically 100% complete. So you go into NG, where you lose the Great Runes

Since Farum Azula is basically the final area before the final boss, I actually always fight Malenia first and haven’t run into this problem… But it’s completely understandable.

@ungabunga9581

Жыл бұрын

Why, does killing Melania before Farum Azula make the great rune not terrible?

@nobuffer101

Жыл бұрын

@@ungabunga9581 I mean the runback. Because I already defeated Malenia and activated her rune before Farum Azula, I don't need to reactivate the elevator or go through the extra process of getting to her tower afterward.

@samf.s.7731

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I fought her before Maliketh. Maliketh is a point of no return in the game.. once he's beaten we're in end game Ashen Capital and all that's left in the main quest is fighting Godfrey, Gideon, and Radagon

Ah Melania, has a moveset made for Sekiro and a Great rune made for Bloodborne. Truly the boss built around dumb choices.

@AlastorAltruistGaming

Жыл бұрын

This precisely! And here I thought FromSoft would be clever. Clearly not with Elden Ring. In other Souls games, they were one single game with only a few nods & references to other titles (Bloodborne pays nod to Demon’s Souls, for instance), but Elden Ring is one giant reference-fest that isn’t fun or interesting; when references to other titles are put into game and/or boss mechanics, it makes the game come off as a cashgrab, a hollow experience, an unfunny joke with no punchline, and would end up being one of the reasons why I will inevitably hate FromSoft (because they’re using references to other games yet poorly putting them into practice). And that’s reason #5000 why I just view Elden Ring as a shitshow when compared to other Souls entries.

You’re right about everything regarding the retrieval and effect of the Great Rune, however you omitted the possibility that some people may play the game in a different order. I always go to the Haligtree before burning the Erdtree because I explore (the intention behind the open world) and so I found the Albinauric Village earlier and also finished Castle Sol before fighting the fire giant. I just said the same thing twice but what I mean is that this is a game that specifically encourages people playing it differently. You didn’t fully acknowledge that here. Also please don’t yell at me I watch these to relax.

This rune would be effective early game but by the time you get it most bosses will kill you in 2 or 3 hits and the health you could get back wouldn't save you while Morgott's extra health boost could. Also I'm sure there are some people who beat Malenia even before the fire giant.

@jimjimson6208

Жыл бұрын

I did her before fire giant on my most recent playthrough, I don't think it's that unreasonable after your first playthrough once you know how to get to the haligtree/how to actually fight her. I'm probably going to keep doing it this way from now on because the Haligtree is just a way funner area than faram azula imo. I think people dramatically overstate how hard malenia is, or rather, how much having more levels will actually help you against, as once you have 40-50 vig 30 or so endurance and 50-60 in damage stat/s I think that more levels won't really help that much. I think her mechanics are stupidly punishing but not really in a way that another 20-30 (just a guess idk exactly how many) or so levels you will get from doing fire giant ---> elden beast are helpful against. As an aside I don't know if I'm just fucking terrible at dark souls 3 but I find sister friede way harder than malenia, I have beaten friede solo exactly once in my life and never want to do it again lmao

You get it far too late in the game to matter but I would argue it could still have some niche use. I think it's best used for trading, particularly when you're actively using strong abilities with hyper armour. Stamp Sweep will recover most if not all health if both hits land. Pop Endure and do a full charge heavy with Iron Cleaver. Use it with Dragon Maw.

That rant about her tower was the most upsetting thing I've heard all week.

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Isolated tower burned my crops and poisoned my well

I'll be honest, I've never had a problem with the runes, I think it's cool how they made them have a separate area per. I just wish that they actually did something to match

Haven't played the game yet so I must ask: do you keep the great runes on new game cycles? Perhaps the intent was restoring it on the NG+

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

You do not

@ComfyestofBois

Жыл бұрын

@@pikmonwolf oof, bad design for sure then!

Don’t need a another reason to not fight Malenia. I Don’t give a shit about her lore wise not I bother to even attempt her.

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

I personally think she's one of the worst bosses in the game.

@manuelc5786

Жыл бұрын

@@pikmonwolf couldn’t agree more.

It’s not about the money it’s about sending a message

Mohg's Rune makes my mimic strong AF for a bleed built. Was really helpful with Malenia.

I honestly don’t even remember it being that difficult to get tbh like I remember that the isolated tower would make sense for Melina to be consider she in lore can be argued to be a loner but I went there and got the great ruin and bam no problems. I didn’t use it cause knowing mizakya it was going to be bad cause Melina in the lore was plagued by rot so makes sense it was going to be bad but I don’t remember if I burned the erdtree before or after Melina but when you lay it all out it honestly seems like such a drag I can’t believe I didn’t notice it. Makes me wonder what did I do to make it seem not an issues?

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

You probably fought her before burning the erdtree, or just very coincidentally went to the tower of return after lol.

@yaboithatboi4428

Жыл бұрын

@@pikmonwolf I think I did went to the tower right after killing melina didn’t burn the erdtree and had no actual problem getting the rune but I honestly couldn’t believe I didn’t notice this major design flaw thanks for pointing it out

I’m glad to see people aren’t just meat riding Fromsoft on these things. Is elden ring a great game? Absolutely. But it does have its problems and things about it that just suck/that are bad game design. Yet people will still defend it.

@pikmonwolf

8 ай бұрын

Yeah FromSoft fans tend to be a bit overzealous

I actually totally forgot about that teleported trap. I’ve literally always beaten Malenia before setting fire to the tree.

Yeah, at first I thought Melania's was going to be cool when I read it but then I realized there's a time limit for how long you can heal the damage, which wouldn't be a problem but it's stupid short so I don't have ANY time to do so.

As i know Malenia takes 300 hp back with every hit. So what about the player as well get back hp but around 30 the same way? Oreo doesnt count more then one hit

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

Any sort of buff to the healing on the rune would be welcome.

I want to add: yes, Radahn and, to a lesser extent, Morgott's Great Runes outmatch Godrick's. There's too many diminishing returns in having +5 on every stat and it's not as important as allocating them yourself. They become pointless. So Godrick's is the 3rd best and Rykard is not far behind, and can be even better if you mix it up with Great Star and Blessed Dew. As for Malenia's Rune, it's also my least favorite; seems like something you get the full advantage on subsequent playthroughs and the expansion. You can beat her before even Fire Giant, so you have many chances to use it. The thing is, like you said, it doesn't make sense to not have the bonfire when the capital burns. As for the rune arcs, it's very easy to get them, specially in co-op. They're consistently rewarded to you and are better implemented than Embers, which only gave bland boosts. It goes without saying that, if you somehow don't like the endgame, like if you find it too difficult or don't want to use your tools, doing that trek would feel meaningless. Personally I don't bother with the Great rune because there's much more than just that item: Malenia's incantation, weapon and armor, finishing Millicent's questline, fighting the true Loretta and getting her items and many more things.

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

I agree that there's plenty to incentive fighting Malenia without the rune, but having the rune not be total ass would be a nice benefit lol.

@ddm_gamer

Жыл бұрын

They arent implememted better than embers because embers were used to access online play.

@enman009

Жыл бұрын

@@ddm_gamer Ember was also a 30% health boost and heal for the PvE. But for an RPG about build variety and stats, it doesn't provide as much flexibility as what we have here. I ain't a fan of Malenia's Rune either, but the rest, even Mogh's, have an utility for the roleplay. Heck, Radahn and Morgott are an example. Multipliers in certain stats, probably the most important ones like stamina and FP, can incentivise more aggressive play or distancing; so does health in the endgame, which compliment the damage resistance focus in this game. And gaining health per kill (Rykard's) coupled with some talismans, makes exploration even more dynamic and less reliant on grace/bonfires, which was a complaint most had on DS3. Godrick's was useful when I defeated Mogh and Astel on low levels, thanks to the damage boost and stamina (health isn't that reliable below 35 on these fights, unless you use perfumes and damage resistance talismans).

@maniac7302

Жыл бұрын

@@enman009 embers we’re basically lies bro they just gave you the hp you could have in dark souls one they just did demon souls lose 50% hp when you die but slightly better

@enman009

Жыл бұрын

@@maniac7302 Like a lot of DS3, the RPG systems weren't very fleshed out. As I explained, Great Runes actually bring something interesting to the table and required commitment (the use of rune arcs), like most RPG should and do.

I'm glad someone shares my frustration. I've been asking myself why for over a year because it makes no since.

I have a feeling the divine bridge will be the location of the gate to the expansion. Excited to see what it ends up being though.

i completely understand what you're saying, but perhaps this is intentional? "all right big shot, you beat the hardest content in the game. here's a rune to make anything you have left more challenging, then"

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

They're not scared of just giving you items that nerf you, so I feel like if they wanted that it would've been a more extreme downside, like you cant use flasks at all and it says the rune is only for those with malenia's strength.

Can we have more ER rant videos? 😍 I just want people to talk more about the really bad design decisions in the game. It’s a great game but ER also does so many things wrong that it really makes me furious sometimes 😂 The game could have been a lot better 😌

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

It's a great game with major flaws which are my favorite to rant about lol. But I don't really plan on doing more Elden Ring content in the near future just because recording it is such a hassle.

@kimjanek646

Жыл бұрын

@@pikmonwolf 😢

Honestly I think if you use a great rune and equip on of the bosses weapons you should be able to have their move set on that weapon for specific bosses bc we can’t really have the fire giant’s moveset but imagine fighting like maliketh or having malenia’s moveset with the great runes since I have no idea what special ability it can add other than their movesets

Has anyone tried this rune with the Endure ash of war and/or the ironjar aromatic. I wonder if being able to facetank hits and trade with them while significantly reducing the damage you take in the process could be a way to really benefit from this rune

Great runes in general are a big letdown especially how hyped up they were, like they'd completely change the game with their powerful effects. Instead it's basic numerical buffs at best and gimmicky nerfs at worst. I'd love if an update fixed them.

@pikmonwolf

Жыл бұрын

I would too, sadly I doubt we'll get one.

@numbersbubble

Жыл бұрын

From doesn't want to admit it made mistakes, everything he does is perfect. That's why even after releasing the dlc on ds1 they still didn't fix the eye melting lava. Also, they never built better upon their games. Why couldn't they port over bloodborne's blood decal effects? Blood on the character looked good in that game. In elden ring, blood on the character looks like sh*t. Looks like a bad photoshop with white outlines on the blood. Also the swimming in sekiro, why is every lake a 2 inch puddle. Imagine how cool it would be to find an underwater temple or something. Have it tied to equipment load. Nope, 2 inch boring puddle.

I always feel the need to point this out, but Malenia is a great example of "there are two types of hard bosses in FromSoft games" because yes, she is the undisputed hardest FromSoft boss, but it's not by being a good boss, it's by being a strong boss in the wrong game. Her aggression has a bad case of Demon Of Hatred syndrome, where she would be a perfect boss...but not in Elden Ring. In Elden Ring, she's just cruelly unfair.

@King_Of_Midgard

Жыл бұрын

"She's cruelly unfair! Yeah any build can respec to blood great stars w/ wildstrikes and full bullgoat set and auto-win her fight by holding the weapon art button, and yeah her hardest to dodge attack can be auto cancelled with one consumable pot, and yeah she staggers on hit making her extremely easy to interrupt, and yeah she's pancakeable by spirit ashes letting you easily trap her in a corner to bully her but she's so unfair and much too strong for this game because i choose to approach her with things she's good against!"

I really don’t understand why they didn’t make it essentially a Rykard upgrade. Let it heal you when you hit the enemies. There’s no reason to limit it to only after you’re hit. It makes more sense canonically, it makes sense as upgrading a much easier boss’s reward, and it’s endgame, it would be extremely useful.

I have a high damage poise trade build that works well with her rune, it's just tanking damage and dishing it as quickly as possible with the giant pickaxe, dual weild strength build with peirce damage is amazing and the spear talisman.

🤔 okay, let me start by saying I am not an expert. I do have a hunch though, I would assume the great rune is built around using her boss's weapon. The waterfaul dance is multiple successive hits. Which should/could translate into making the system work for recovering hp. You could also use the two Talismans to counter the hp drop, those being the one that heals you for successive hits and the other than buffs your hp flasks making them heal more. Now I understand what I have just typed above is a string of things that makes this system that is in place technically "work", but I will also agree, yeah her great rune should work differently with less player penalty. But I would assume they did that to stop it from being main stream meta and making the game easier. Just a side note :). But your rant was fair

@pikmonwolf

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The waterfowl has a pretty long start up, so sure you'll swing a bunch, but the window will probably close before you can get more than a couple hits in.

Godrick's is only good early to mid game.

@pikmonwolf

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It does fall off, but only for about the last 1/3 and even then it can still have a nice role depending on the build. And for those other 2/3 it's the best by a mile.

@SoI_Badguy

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@pikmonwolf I guess it's not so bad with hybrids. But the boost to fp and health both with radahns is just so hard to pass up with the caster builds I typically make. If your build gets up to 22 strength you can use it in conjuction with the grafted blade greatsword and get +10 to every stat for like a minute or more at a time.

What are your thoughts on the calamity ring 😂 Great points on the malenia rune.

I like using Melania's rune with the great stars and heal on succesive hit talismans and poise flask and talisman and armours to just tank everything. The biuld relies on wild strikes ash of war to get many hits in

You are like, the AVGN of Elden Ring great runes.

@pikmonwolf

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I'll definitely take being the "great runes" guy over the Shadow The Hedgehog guy lmao.

Huh. I always beat Melania before turning the Capitol to ash. Never thought about that being why her great rune had a weird access path

@pikmonwolf

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I'm guessing you went to the consecrated snowfield then came back to fight the fire giant? In terms of pathing it makes sense to travel that way, but the difficulty curve is a complete mess that way.

@PatGunn

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@@pikmonwolf I'm not particularly good at this kind of game (it's my first Soulslike) so most of my battles took several goes and when I eventually won it was by the skin of my teeth (even with help from a summon). I also read ahead in the wiki and felt the Capitol was pretty and wanted to delay destroying it until I had methodically seen everything.

@enman009

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@@PatGunn Yeah, if you build your character properly and use the tools, the difficulty curve is not as bad as this video paints it. But of course it will be challenging given their endgame nature. But I would suggest you eventually try out either Malenia's sword or the Black Assassin's armor. Such a functional idea for a build.

@PatGunn

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@@enman009 I was generally disappointed in armor, particularly that with few exceptions only helmets had special effects. Seems like a missed opportunity.

@enman009

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@@PatGunn There's actually plenty of armor, not just heads, with effects: -I mentioned Black Knife Assassin, which increase stealth by vastly muffling your sound. -Deathbed Dress heals you and your allies, including spirit summons. -Godskin Noble Robe increases his specific incantation by 20%. -Raptor's Black Feather increase jumping attack damage by 10%. -Guardian chest improves the healing of a flask. That's not even counting full armor sets effects. For example: Briar set deals damage on rolls per armor piece, a crucible set boost crucible incantations, Royal remains recovers health over time, Alberich set boost some sorceries by 15%, Duelist set makes you easier to detect by foes, and more. So yeah, there's plenty of armor that has effect outside the headset. If we go into weapons and passive effect (like Blasphemous Blade healing on kills), we could be here all night.

What bothers me most about Great Runes is that they inadvertently make Rune Arcs the real treasured item!

You can activate the elevator from above when you get Bernards request in Volcano Manor. He seems to activate the switch for the elevator on top.