Former Sex Pistols manager Malcolm McLaren appeared on Jonesy's Jukebox on May 6, 2005.
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@chrino213 жыл бұрын
Steve Jones asking Malcolm McLaren "Have you ever taken a lie-detector test?" might be the greatest question ever asked in the history of interviews.
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3 жыл бұрын
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3 жыл бұрын
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3 жыл бұрын
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3 жыл бұрын
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3 жыл бұрын
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@martshankleman4 жыл бұрын
Steve is natural interviewer . First question to his ex manager ‘where’s the money?’ Said with a smile but deadly serious.
@robertkidd2192
4 жыл бұрын
And yeah Malcom’s almost Nervous Laughter . I wonder if he was worried Steeve would start talking about his sleazy ways. LOL ;)
@likkidixx
3 жыл бұрын
"don't fuck with me"
@grahamblack19612 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic interview. It's great to hear them being so warm with each other. Say what you want about McLaren, he was utterly fascinating.
@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747
2 жыл бұрын
He imported the CBGB punk movement to the UK and made it a bigger hit than it ever was in its native NY city.
@mjh5437
10 ай бұрын
Totally different@@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747
@Muirton662 жыл бұрын
Slippery as a snake was old talcy Malcy but his contribution to British music and culture should never be underestimated, a clever clever guy.
@andchat6241
2 жыл бұрын
Hi there again ! -..I think McClaren has been given a rather hard time over the years- with all the ex- pistols eventually turning to John's side in the '80s court case , & even the 'Filth & the Fury' had some digs , & the 1 image of Malcolm on the 'kiss This' comp in drag was a bit snide . I felt Steve & Paul kind of went with towing 'the Lydon line' really to avoid conflict ,but Steve's book is fair to Malcolm ( & Viv) & states how much they helped him - & without Malcolm & the shop ,Jordan, Dave Goodman, Jamie Reid etc.....it just wouldn't have happened.....& also i felt there was a real sense of performance listening to Malcolm ,he could be very witty , where Lydon could often be ...
@Wicked_R
2 жыл бұрын
@@andchat6241 he did completely fuck the Pistols though didn't he.made Steve and Paul look like fucking idiots in the end.good that Jonsey and cookie are gentle souls really..cos if Sid had of Survived he and Lydon would of cleaned Malcolm out.
@andchat6241
2 жыл бұрын
@@Wicked_R regarding 'he made ' Steve or Paul 'look stupid' , I dont think so - the band had split & Cook n Jones stuck with McClaren who had put them together with Matlock ,gave them a band name , encouraged Steve to move from vocals to Guitar ,pushed for Lydon to be singer, set up living quarters & rehearsal space in Denmark st , while they dressed in clothes from the shop. After the split Lydon took McClaren & co to court .Jones & Cook were part of McClarens backing, but knowing any judgement would be tainted by the supposedly 'true ' Rock n Roll Swindle' story they were advised to change to Lydons side .After over 6 years McClaren was found negligent in their management, rather than dishonest , in that he had as little idea of where money was being spent as anyone else, & the group had signed a basic contract with McClaren without legal advice . McClaren being the eldest was held responsible for this. Usually if a 'shop owner' found himself as manager of a young band that became successful the contract would have been taken over by a more experienced team with a road manager , but their rapid rise /signing /sacking/change of bassist/signing/sacking/signing ....split made a mess of any 'continuity..?
@VanessaDiazNYC2 жыл бұрын
Malcom - a fascinating character! I am watching Pistol and revisiting all the docs and interviews and feeling inspired again. Bunch of legends!
@garrylogan4554
2 жыл бұрын
Malcolm wasn't a good bloke at all but where would Steve have ended up without him? Im sure that without Malcolm that he wouldn't be living this cool life as a DJ in LA.
@VanessaDiazNYC
2 жыл бұрын
@@garrylogan4554 Malcolm was a very complicated man indeed. He did a lot of things that I would consider “sneaky” and mean, but he also was a genius in his own way. A very multi faceted person at the very least.
@JDC352
2 жыл бұрын
Blah blah blah...
@NoResultsReturned
2 жыл бұрын
Same. Loved Pistol. I'm obsessed at this point. Like yourself, I'm watching everything I can find. It's all gold.
@MissConJeezyality
2 жыл бұрын
@@NoResultsReturned Snap. Since watching it I've gone down a Rabbit hole trying to find anything I can!
@healersonwheels95503 жыл бұрын
Fabulous interview.. Malcolm really is a fantastic story teller, really nice vibe between the two of them. Excellent.
@Chingfordassociates4 жыл бұрын
Although they had a very complicated relationship, I think Steve was always grateful to Malcolm for giving him his break. I’m not sure Malcolm knew what to do with Steve’s gratitude. I really enjoyed reading Steve Jones’ book Lonely Boy.
@TwentyTwenty90
3 жыл бұрын
Spot on. Just finished the book myself - exceptional.
@halloweenjack4482
2 жыл бұрын
Malcolm actually put the Sex Pistols together just to get Steve off the streets as he was a shocking thief at the time.
@gcroller93
2 жыл бұрын
You watched the new series? Tis worth a watch homie
@jocksilver74 жыл бұрын
'where's the Money?' ' The Swindle continues...'.
@sexobscura
4 жыл бұрын
'he never trusted anybody - let alone a bank'
@sexobscura
4 жыл бұрын
@rj zander killed bambi ...
@jocksilver7
3 жыл бұрын
@@sexobscura he was a ''human bank'' per se.
@lordcharfield4529
3 жыл бұрын
@@sexobscura Russ Meyer shot Bambi…….look it up!
@jocksilver7
19 күн бұрын
@@sexobscura Really?! It'd be too risqué , even for a Situationist, i guess.
@hahatoldyouso7 ай бұрын
How interesting to listen to, love hearing Malcolm's stories
@centralscrutinizer664 жыл бұрын
Man, I could listen this for hours. I love talk about music.
@gmac91333 жыл бұрын
Jonesy just seems to bring out the best in everyone.🤔
@renebascur4290
3 жыл бұрын
toó much . bloody incredible man anf life
@gregmackinnon36632 жыл бұрын
Malcolm was a great English flâneur, so creative and charming. He made the world a more fun place to be. Left us way too soon.
@shanefitzpatrick58113 жыл бұрын
No matter what about the (lost)? Money, Malcolm tell,s great stories and l could listen to him all day. And without Malcolm ,The Pistols would never have happened. So they do owe him a lot of gratitude.
@dynjarren75234 жыл бұрын
McClaren is very entertaining and charming! Also, a brilliant marketer and good talker. Very smart and clever guy. It’s funny how he laughs when Steve asks him where’s the money? What a provacateur.
@kaptinshazbat7535
3 жыл бұрын
@@LarzGustafsson we're all crooks.
@theselector47334 жыл бұрын
Malcom may have ripped off a lot of people over the years but he's gotta be one of the best raconteurs.
@grahamgiles6581
4 жыл бұрын
Bollox! he was a talentless parasite
@BB.halo_heir
3 жыл бұрын
He's both
@drpepa09
3 жыл бұрын
@@grahamgiles6581 You know nothing.
@kaptinshazbat7535
3 жыл бұрын
The 5th pistol👍
@gonzaloreyes87824 жыл бұрын
The most crazy manager ever
@bankruptbritain61034 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite McClaren quotes is "England is the home of the flasher"
@theefishlippedone4 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, Steve is the ideal interviewer for MM, he can't bullshit Steve
@Niels5963 жыл бұрын
What a great human mind this Jones guy has!
@TheWizard-yo8uv4 жыл бұрын
‘ where’s the money?..’ both laughing sez it all 😂
@JETJOOBOY
4 жыл бұрын
There was a rumour.
@jamesmatthews5639
4 жыл бұрын
cash for chaos
@Eleventhearlofmars
4 жыл бұрын
rj zander mclaren had all their trousers down ( ripped them off) Lydon took mclaren to court and won, don’t think any of the others got anything back though.
@antigen4
4 жыл бұрын
no they conspired to fool the public that there was a 'conspiracy'
@bernardjharmsen304
3 жыл бұрын
"The swindle continues" ha
@ianshaw23214 жыл бұрын
Jonesy needs to get Andrew Loog Oldham on the show
@MrShaunsk
4 жыл бұрын
Yes. That would be great.
@carpetbeggar
4 жыл бұрын
Or Prince Andrew.
@chuckberry8852
4 жыл бұрын
He's still alive? That would be great but I think the "Bro code" would prevent him from telling his best tales. Just imagine the stories. Get him and Marianne Faithful on together and watch the fireworks!
@shack76314 жыл бұрын
McLaren is always entertaining, but you wouldn't trust as far as you could throw him.
@revol148
4 жыл бұрын
+Shack his winning 2 million votes in an Mayoral election he pulled out of is one of many in this interview alone !
@michaelstephen819
4 жыл бұрын
Same for any manager in this business - Sharon Osbourne, anyone?
@revol148
4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelstephen819 Her father, Don Arden was a ruthless nightmare of a man who screwed everyone he managed over - she even admits that in an interview with Jonsey. McLaren, Arden & Brian Epstein were all Jews by the way.....just saying.
@michaelstephen819
4 жыл бұрын
@@revol148 Yes, that's where she gets it from. Wendy Dio seems to be joining the same club. Hologram in your husband's memory?
@revol148
4 жыл бұрын
@Spencer Proctor ....is there not a grain of truth in most generalisations? Take the Russian oligarchs who stripped the country of its wealth in the 1990's when all the state assets were privatised with many leaving the country - how many of those oligarchs were NOT members of god's chosen people? Clue: almost none.
@cejannuzi11 ай бұрын
McLaren has such specific and clear memories of it all. I guess he was not high on drugs or drunk most of the time.
@colourist. Жыл бұрын
Great interview. Amusing that THIS interview is used verbatim as the plot and script for a lot of the 'Pistol' series on FX.
@madmushmusicАй бұрын
One of the best interviews Jones did. This one, Chrissie Hynde, and Seymore Stein. Class!
@fleetwoodsmash2 жыл бұрын
Riveting. Several things can be true at the same time: MM is incredibly charming and unprincipled. Jonesy knows MM ripped him off but remains grateful for the opportunity (he knows he's still far ahead of where he'd be without MM), and the Pistols would have still been a band wirhout MM, but nowhere near the band they became.
@cejannuzi
2 ай бұрын
I don't think McLaren advised or forced him to be a heroin addict, and that is pretty much how he wrecked his post-Pistols career. Sure the world and the industry weren't very fair about recognizing Jones as one of the major musical talents behind the Pistols--the other being Matlock, but he was very self-destructive.
@Wearenotreallyhere2 жыл бұрын
Quite a few lines lifted from this interview that ended up in ‘Pistol’. Great to listen to this again.
@78stephie
2 жыл бұрын
Love this!
@blackmore44 жыл бұрын
The moment McClaren says the word "Mongols", Jones starts laughing. I'm crying :))
@lordcharfield4529
3 жыл бұрын
I was the same 🤣
@mjh5437
18 күн бұрын
Delightfully non-PC moment
@mrn134 жыл бұрын
London has a population of just above 20 million Malcolm said...This interview makes me understand how crazy he was. Solid personality. RIP.
@neilsun2521
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah i was thinking 'isn't it more like 8 million Malcom?'
@ricjones5749
4 жыл бұрын
It feels like it sometimes
@gazriley624
2 жыл бұрын
14 million if you include Greater London
@TheFormerkgbchief
Жыл бұрын
I was told that 20 million people are in London every day, a lot of them passing through.
@allosaurusfragilis77824 жыл бұрын
What a character. He was like something out of dickens.
@markmaccormak43104 жыл бұрын
Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story 👌
@garydansco55842 жыл бұрын
Its Just Great that these 2 old mates Still got on so well, after all the court cases, ect......xxxxx
@niknayme37544 жыл бұрын
We don't want the swindle to end Malcolm. Carry on.
@neilsun2521
4 жыл бұрын
He's dead.
@sovaine7 ай бұрын
"Where's the money" lol..... priceless cockney banter😅
@evenmore58684 жыл бұрын
I had to laugh, Malcolm impersonating Derbyshire born Vivienne "yer got the wrong John"
@baronsaturday95604 жыл бұрын
Malcolm could tell a story really well! Great stuff...!
@TheGreatAlan754 жыл бұрын
This is like Badfinger interviewing THEIR manager
@MikeGervasi
3 жыл бұрын
Badfinger had it worse. They lost all their money AND were on the hook to the record company. Poor Pete Ham hung himself over it. Polley should rot in hell.
@richarddixon96063 жыл бұрын
Amazing how some people can rip you off and you still like them,some talent that.
@gostrum1
2 жыл бұрын
It takes one to know one
@richarddixon9606
2 жыл бұрын
@@gostrum1 Eh
@douglasfreeman3229
2 жыл бұрын
A particular talent of psychopaths. Politicians do it. They punch your face then say they will drive you to the hospital, then leave you bleeding to death believing that you are in a hospital bed surrounded by medical staff.
@adrianc12643 жыл бұрын
he's hard work, can see why so many people disliked him. Absolutely no room is big enough for him and john lydon at the same time
@mjh5437
18 күн бұрын
You must be quite dense if you don`t find this extremely interesting and amusing.
@maryuline2585 Жыл бұрын
I listened to this interview a while ago but now in the meantime I have read Steve's book. This is so much more interesting now and especially since Malcolm has passed the information is really more interesting and important.
@sootspritehive4 жыл бұрын
Many moons ago I met Malcolm @ a Virgin Records in-store event - He was promoting the "Paris" album at the time (which is quite good) - Looking a bit sullen over the small turn out, he was nevertheless charming and very cool to chat with. Check out his BBC Radio docs (on London and his childhood) for more good story telling. ....
@PaulLea4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed that interview, great to hear Malcolm and his well told entertaining stories.
@billyunterbuchner9197
4 жыл бұрын
u forgot to say made-up
@mjh543718 күн бұрын
Malcolm imitating Viv Westwoods northern accent is so funny
@AlmostReady5043 жыл бұрын
Malcolm was a wonderful interesting character. And made his mark on the scene. I'll still never forgive him for fucking up The Dolls. RIP Malcolm
@sugarjoe50
2 жыл бұрын
Malcom didn't fuck up the Dolls, heroin did.
@mjh5437
10 ай бұрын
Dolls screwed themself up.
@ianwhitehead691
10 ай бұрын
Yep, 💉 definitely the Smack.🤤
@purplesue662 жыл бұрын
My God Mr. Jones here you are with the best interviews with musicians I love it cause it's about music fashion story telling and other things that the guest wants us to know he's easy going and funny which disarms the guest and we get mote.subsqribe folks.
@amathis72924 жыл бұрын
It's hard to hate Malcolm because he's very honest in his shityness.
@comicblueswithjonygitar36
4 жыл бұрын
He's Fagan come to life my dears.
@yinoveryang4246
4 жыл бұрын
It’s not too hard to hate him. After the Sex pistols everything he did, to cut a long story short, failed. No taste, despite pretending otherwise throughout his life. The only bit that DID succeed (Pistols) succeeded only though luck. Several levels of blag, and bullshit, there’s so much provably nonsense things said in this interview. “These Mongolians, they’ve got the beat”. What? He’ was one morally dubious bullshitter too.
@elizabethhann4028
4 жыл бұрын
@@comicblueswithjonygitar36 You're someone who understands him. Thank goodness for that.
@sexobscura
4 жыл бұрын
just like Ted Bundy
@chrisbennett606
4 жыл бұрын
Yin over Yang how do you know he's not telling the truth on the Mongolian
@matthewmwolff4 жыл бұрын
"How can I repay you?"
@frankelgueta1350
2 жыл бұрын
😆😂
@CuntyMcShitballs1002 жыл бұрын
In his book I think Jones said Malcolm was always encouraging them to create chaos but would shit himself at the first sign of trouble lol
@thomaswieser222910 ай бұрын
What a storyteller
@robertdavidson93934 жыл бұрын
Steve to Malcalm have you ever taken a lie detector test?Bwhahahahaha!
@douglasfreeman32292 жыл бұрын
Nice upload, Charles Hawtrey, but I put it to you that you are an imposter! Hah!
@seekah14 жыл бұрын
Again, thanks for putting these up, real treat. Now, where's that Bollocks box set...
@jackreed72872 жыл бұрын
Steve Jones listening to Sex Pistols stories like a fan.
@MUSIC4TRUTH.... Жыл бұрын
I never knew Harold Steptoe was involved with the film.
@happyjack15983 жыл бұрын
2021.Timeless songs and the history.Steve,Paul,Glen,Johns,Malcolm,Viv, as a Yankee from Boston usa,was nice folks even though it was a bit hairy,lol.Wish I could been a roadie,but I was 12 and to get back to the states.😀❤
@newwavepop2 жыл бұрын
i always thought it was strange how much animosity Lydon had towards Malcolm, i always thought they seemed really similar in a lot of ways they even looked like they could have ben related.
@carloslozada4704 жыл бұрын
2005 ? Jones needs to be on everyday
@catmandudes79494 жыл бұрын
I was already $100,000 in and I did not want to pay any more, Jonesy you should have used the money you took from us, boom boom you got him well said, timed it perfectly.
@zochbuppet4482 жыл бұрын
John Lydon surely got a lot of people to hate this guy for no really good reason. why? Malcolm helped John Lydon to get where is is/ went. Because a lot of it was Malcolm McLaren's ideas. Big mouths and hyper social chatty personality types need other people to steer them, especially when they are young like John Lydon at the time. Vivienne Westwood...Also owes everything to him with her fashion empire now. She knew NOTHING, or very little except to make alterations and sew a few things when she met him. Everything she learned from him. IT WAS ALL HIS IDEAS. He went to art school. Some of the ideas of punk, especially the antagonist or social/ political forms of UK Punk is rooted in Situational-ism a 1960's confrontational philosophy/ politics, art movement...which Malcolm knew about. Jones and cook knew this and accepted it and him for all his sneaky and scammy ways.
@jonahwhale9047
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but Malcolm couldn't sew, so it was 50/50 with Westwood.
@chris.dalton5 ай бұрын
McClaren was fun to listen to but if you want to know what he was doing, just note the following when he mentions in the interview having run for London Mayor (in 2000) and he says he got 2 million votes (by a strange sort of calculation, 9% of 20 million Londoners): 1. Total turnout was 34%. 2. The number of votes cast in both rounds was 1.3 million, making the total population eligible roughly 4.9 million. 3. Malcolm withdrew before the election, thereby receiving 0 votes. But hey, why let the facts get in the way of a good life story!
@dangl650 Жыл бұрын
I love that “where’s the money ?” Proper bloke Steve is.
@mondofilmzz Жыл бұрын
Old but gold.
@terrypussypower Жыл бұрын
Listening to them pissing themselves laughing at what they got away with all those years ago is very heart warming.
@jude9993 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. Great story teller indeed. I always wondered the background story.
@mjh54374 жыл бұрын
Fascinating great English Eccentric,super brght mind and always interesting character.
@danielcaprani5637 Жыл бұрын
What a clever business man, God Bless the Sex Pistols 🏴🔥🕸️🌱
@adrianbrowne79622 жыл бұрын
Although Malcolm McLaren has " Continued To Divide Opinion " Over the years I think that his " Significance And Intelligence " Are Indisputable regardless of anything else !!! From Adrian Browne 1965
@jalijali84484 жыл бұрын
Oh Malcolm, miss the old bugger!
@edwardbliss89314 жыл бұрын
I've seen so many Malcolm McLaren interviews and he always came off as serious and blunt. Now all this laughing may be an act, but at the same time---this rare carefree and good-natured side might be only seen when the camera lights are off---but brought out here because he's being interviewed by Steve Jones.
@Fractalite
4 жыл бұрын
You can see he was totally at ease - enjoying himself - and Steve totally encouraged him to run free with tales in a lighthearted manner . They constantly flirted and giggled over the idea that Malcolm was indulging in artistic license. I think this interview was absolutely unique.
@elpadre42023 жыл бұрын
How interesting those days were. Can't imagine anything being as interesting on the king's road today. When did we become so boring? How do you get that back.
@Whiplashed
3 жыл бұрын
getting rid of the internet...
@mjh5437
18 күн бұрын
@@Whiplashed Spot on mate.
@BB.halo_heir3 жыл бұрын
Jonesy's great ♡
@myboythom2 жыл бұрын
We used to use our old amigas live on stage back in the early 90s The cheesy old rave stuff we used to pump out. ....aahh the good old bad old days
@fasthracing2 жыл бұрын
Could listen to Malcolm a lot.
@thelizardking93824 жыл бұрын
The Marvellous Malcolm McLaren
@sexobscura
4 жыл бұрын
okay if you say so
@danielaschwarz1971
4 жыл бұрын
@@sexobscura 😂😂😂
@josephlambert54137 ай бұрын
Je reminds me of C3POs actor.
@LeroyKinkade2 ай бұрын
This is Gold now, if you know what I mean. The Sex Pistols keep changing the world.
@dmerls85712 жыл бұрын
I'm hearing "Boys' Chorus" at the start with Malcolm's laughter. Novelty song? Maybe but pretty great too.
@JFABALL20224 жыл бұрын
2 bands changed the world in my lifetime...Beatles and Pistols
@andchat6241
4 жыл бұрын
Yup ...the SEX BEATLES would be some combo...... (though there was actually a late 70s band with that name)
@STETTRACE
4 жыл бұрын
Hendrix and Eddie Van Halen and Blackmore as well
@andchat6241
4 жыл бұрын
@@STETTRACE , yes Jimi ,Eddie & Ritchie were top rate guitarists....but, that's not really a reply to James Ballards "2 bands changed the world....."
@sexobscura
4 жыл бұрын
you forgot The Carpenters and ABBA
@andchat6241
4 жыл бұрын
James Ballard ..I guess the Pistols got a chunk of Beatles via Glen Matlock ( or as McClaren rather unfairly calls him 'the Saturday boy') ..in his Book 'Lonely Boy' Jones says how much Matlock (musically) taught them....Jones also states his main 'musical hero' was Rod Stewart...
@edoliveira42883 жыл бұрын
Malcolm Mclaren simply the Best
@DavidKing-jx3sg2 ай бұрын
Good to see they can laugh about it, great interview. I bet Malcolm still has his fingers in a few pies
@chuckberry88524 жыл бұрын
"Lightening Strikes" the first song Steve and Malcolm were trying name the artist on wasn't Lou Chrisitie, it was Frankie Valley and the Four Seasons.
@lysanderofsparta3708
4 жыл бұрын
No, it really was Lou Christie who originally recorded "Lightning Strikes" in 1965.
@chuckberry8852
4 жыл бұрын
@@lysanderofsparta3708 Technically you are correct. I would just note that in Steve's mind he was referring to the Frankie Valley and the Four Seasons version as you can hear him start to say "The Four Seasons". You win win this time Batman!
@lysanderofsparta3708
4 жыл бұрын
@@chuckberry8852 Lou Christie (real name: Luigi Sacco) was often mistaken for Frankie Valli -- another Italian-American singer from the early 1960's with an incredibly loud and powerful falsetto voice.
@chuckberry8852
4 жыл бұрын
@@lysanderofsparta3708 Interesting. As far as I remember Frankie Valley and the Four Seasons did cover that tune. I remember a TV commercial for their greatest hits featuring a sound bite from that song amongst others. I guess it was a natural fit for Frankie's voice.
@gustavnovak4 жыл бұрын
the mongolian/chinese all-girl group talk cracks me up ! 😂😂😂
@andchat6241
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't think they ever topped the charts ...neither did 'she sheriff'& other 'McClaren protégés' ..but 1 great group is more than enough....
@nickh87374 жыл бұрын
I think its unreal that the band only had 1 album!? It just keeps going today
@MrMh722
4 жыл бұрын
That might be the best thing about it and the reason why it's so special!
@blakejohnson7148
4 жыл бұрын
It's a great album.
@hawkeyefire6208
3 жыл бұрын
They were told they couldn’t play and John couldn’t sing, how wrong they were. It’s still sounds fresh today and the quality is un questionable. One album and still being talked about in high regard. Simple but fantastic. Stay Free all
@mjh5437
18 күн бұрын
It still gives me goosepimples
@Unfunny_Username_3897 ай бұрын
15:10 - whoah I never knew Westwood was Welsh
@its-not-my-cup-of-tea4 жыл бұрын
Population of London 20 million???? divide that figure by 2, Malcolm then you''ll be A LOT closer
@wotdoesthisbuttondo2 жыл бұрын
Weird how McLaren never got done for putting a naked 14yo girl in film/inside cover of the Swindle record making her look like be Sue Catwoman, then that Bow Wow Wow stuff.
@mjh5437
10 ай бұрын
Weird how you never got done for masturbating over it.
@matthewmwolff4 жыл бұрын
"You never call"
@wellthatisgr8er
4 жыл бұрын
- ,,You never call!''
@AlexanderLaurence2 жыл бұрын
I like how Malcolm makes fun of vivienne westwood's accent. 21:10
@mjh5437
18 күн бұрын
Does it very well too lol
@DungeonStudio4 жыл бұрын
Malcolm and Tony Wilson I always thought got the short end of the stick for their brilliance and guts. Would the Pistols have happened without McLaren? Certainly not to the extent we know them now I'm sure. But to slag him off as this useless money grubber that messed everything up I never bought for a minute. Yeah, maybe he manipulated Glen out of the band. But he saw the brilliance in Sid to replace him. And yeah, he may have contributed to Sid's downfall - but he tried to keep Nancy away as much as everyone else. So Sid was doomed soon as he met her and got on the junk, and really Malcolm GLORIFIED him to the infamy he has to this day. The Great Rock N' Roll Swindle is really Sid's movie. And Sid looks and sounds fabulous in it! So yeah, it may have pissed a lot of money away, made Malcolm look like the bad guy. And Ronnie Bigg's taking the piss on everything. But most remember Sid in it, and rightfully so. So if that was just to make money from after Sid checked out, which he was going to anyways - gotta credit Malcolm for doing that. He could just as easily told Sid to piss off and bring Glen back or somebody else. And Sid would've died with Nancy in Essex or Akron unnoticed.
@sexobscura
4 жыл бұрын
Wilson is like McLaren in that he likes to [fictionally] place himself in the centre of all the cultural action when the truth is that they were *NOT*
@andchat6241
4 жыл бұрын
While the end of Sids life was a tradgedy, Steve Jones was an illiterate criminal whose life was greatly improved by knowing McClaren..& Lydons line that 'Malcolm put nothing into the Pistols is clearly incorrect' he had the name already, put 'the Band' together ,got them somewhere to practice & possibly of most importance together with Vivian designed great clothes so they looked 'like stars' from the start.. With some great lyrics from Lydon & some good cover versions they were 'up & running'..
@deanpd3402
4 жыл бұрын
There is no brilliance in a Tavistock operation.
@jonstern7511
2 жыл бұрын
@@deanpd3402 what did Tavistock do here?
@joebrewer45294 жыл бұрын
Brilliant man. Worth it for buffalo gals.
@mjh5437
18 күн бұрын
That was a low spot
@erlstone4 жыл бұрын
I certainly believe you Malcolm....you had the knack or the black art of what is "cool".
@krisscanlon40513 жыл бұрын
Just the bees knees... Brit marketing of vital music from the late great Malcolm M.
@krisscanlon4051
3 ай бұрын
Malcolm relived the infamous story that changed popular culture. Hard to believe it all. Jonesy literally relived the story as though he heard it the first time.
@TheFormerkgbchief Жыл бұрын
9:20 I wonder if Malcolm murdered that guy...
@stephenkey76474 жыл бұрын
Funny that mack ended up doing the best song the one with the skipping rope video hahaha
@77898 Жыл бұрын
THE TRADE OFF WAS THE " SPEAK EASY "
@Bosspigeon2303 ай бұрын
Malcolm McLaren - So uninterested in the band until they made a impact, then made it about him.
@fanboy20154 жыл бұрын
Hate to say this, but if it wasn’t for Malcolm we would never have had the Sex Pistols.
@sexobscura
4 жыл бұрын
they existed well before he got them to help sell his wares
@nkmcfrln
4 жыл бұрын
@@sexobscura You're full of shit.
@fanboy2015
4 жыл бұрын
sexobscura No
@Muirton66
4 жыл бұрын
@@sexobscura The man is 100% correct, no Malcolm no Sex Pistols......fact
@andchat6241
4 жыл бұрын
@@sexobscura , well cook & jones (+ Wally Nightingale) were ' a band' in the way many of have been & as a' natural progression ' from Steve's Ability to steal instruments (& many other things),Inc' Bowies pro microphones from 'Ziggys farewell gigs' at Hammersmith Odeon ...but in '75 McClaren had the name (printed on his Love/Hate shirts sold in his & Vivs shop) 'Kutie Jones & his Sex Pistols' .they played 1 gig with steve on vocals...He wasn't comfortable on vox so they looked for another vocalist...the songs in some style 'written before' john joining were 'Did you know wrong' & 'Pretty vacant' ...as earlier live recordings show e.g. I have an lp from Manchester June 76 they've added 'problems & 17' to the set (still includes Substitute, gimme no lip, what you gonna do? & no fun....)
@AmericanBulldogRockyАй бұрын
mad genius
@ulf-ivanolsen74944 жыл бұрын
Have you ever taken a lie detector test? 😂😂😂😂😂 Man- you are hilerious
@charlesd.25874 жыл бұрын
Man...started slow but then sucked me in big time. McLaren's voice and style is so unique...he's like a 70s Fagin.
@shack7631
4 жыл бұрын
He is a fantastic story. You could listen to him all night. The question is how much to believe.
@sexobscura
4 жыл бұрын
a 70s Fagin [as he'd like to purport] - he's more like an eternal conniver [as the world knows]
Пікірлер: 444
Steve Jones asking Malcolm McLaren "Have you ever taken a lie-detector test?" might be the greatest question ever asked in the history of interviews.
@kelvinjameson3764
3 жыл бұрын
i dont mean to be off topic but does someone know of a trick to get back into an instagram account..? I stupidly lost my account password. I appreciate any tricks you can offer me!
@brycenchad580
3 жыл бұрын
@Kelvin Jameson Instablaster =)
@kelvinjameson3764
3 жыл бұрын
@Brycen Chad i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm in the hacking process now. I see it takes a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@kelvinjameson3764
3 жыл бұрын
@Brycen Chad it did the trick and I actually got access to my account again. Im so happy:D Thanks so much, you really help me out !
@brycenchad580
3 жыл бұрын
@Kelvin Jameson Happy to help =)
Steve is natural interviewer . First question to his ex manager ‘where’s the money?’ Said with a smile but deadly serious.
@robertkidd2192
4 жыл бұрын
And yeah Malcom’s almost Nervous Laughter . I wonder if he was worried Steeve would start talking about his sleazy ways. LOL ;)
@likkidixx
3 жыл бұрын
"don't fuck with me"
This is a fantastic interview. It's great to hear them being so warm with each other. Say what you want about McLaren, he was utterly fascinating.
@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747
2 жыл бұрын
He imported the CBGB punk movement to the UK and made it a bigger hit than it ever was in its native NY city.
@mjh5437
10 ай бұрын
Totally different@@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747
Slippery as a snake was old talcy Malcy but his contribution to British music and culture should never be underestimated, a clever clever guy.
@andchat6241
2 жыл бұрын
Hi there again ! -..I think McClaren has been given a rather hard time over the years- with all the ex- pistols eventually turning to John's side in the '80s court case , & even the 'Filth & the Fury' had some digs , & the 1 image of Malcolm on the 'kiss This' comp in drag was a bit snide . I felt Steve & Paul kind of went with towing 'the Lydon line' really to avoid conflict ,but Steve's book is fair to Malcolm ( & Viv) & states how much they helped him - & without Malcolm & the shop ,Jordan, Dave Goodman, Jamie Reid etc.....it just wouldn't have happened.....& also i felt there was a real sense of performance listening to Malcolm ,he could be very witty , where Lydon could often be ...
@Wicked_R
2 жыл бұрын
@@andchat6241 he did completely fuck the Pistols though didn't he.made Steve and Paul look like fucking idiots in the end.good that Jonsey and cookie are gentle souls really..cos if Sid had of Survived he and Lydon would of cleaned Malcolm out.
@andchat6241
2 жыл бұрын
@@Wicked_R regarding 'he made ' Steve or Paul 'look stupid' , I dont think so - the band had split & Cook n Jones stuck with McClaren who had put them together with Matlock ,gave them a band name , encouraged Steve to move from vocals to Guitar ,pushed for Lydon to be singer, set up living quarters & rehearsal space in Denmark st , while they dressed in clothes from the shop. After the split Lydon took McClaren & co to court .Jones & Cook were part of McClarens backing, but knowing any judgement would be tainted by the supposedly 'true ' Rock n Roll Swindle' story they were advised to change to Lydons side .After over 6 years McClaren was found negligent in their management, rather than dishonest , in that he had as little idea of where money was being spent as anyone else, & the group had signed a basic contract with McClaren without legal advice . McClaren being the eldest was held responsible for this. Usually if a 'shop owner' found himself as manager of a young band that became successful the contract would have been taken over by a more experienced team with a road manager , but their rapid rise /signing /sacking/change of bassist/signing/sacking/signing ....split made a mess of any 'continuity..?
Malcom - a fascinating character! I am watching Pistol and revisiting all the docs and interviews and feeling inspired again. Bunch of legends!
@garrylogan4554
2 жыл бұрын
Malcolm wasn't a good bloke at all but where would Steve have ended up without him? Im sure that without Malcolm that he wouldn't be living this cool life as a DJ in LA.
@VanessaDiazNYC
2 жыл бұрын
@@garrylogan4554 Malcolm was a very complicated man indeed. He did a lot of things that I would consider “sneaky” and mean, but he also was a genius in his own way. A very multi faceted person at the very least.
@JDC352
2 жыл бұрын
Blah blah blah...
@NoResultsReturned
2 жыл бұрын
Same. Loved Pistol. I'm obsessed at this point. Like yourself, I'm watching everything I can find. It's all gold.
@MissConJeezyality
2 жыл бұрын
@@NoResultsReturned Snap. Since watching it I've gone down a Rabbit hole trying to find anything I can!
Fabulous interview.. Malcolm really is a fantastic story teller, really nice vibe between the two of them. Excellent.
Although they had a very complicated relationship, I think Steve was always grateful to Malcolm for giving him his break. I’m not sure Malcolm knew what to do with Steve’s gratitude. I really enjoyed reading Steve Jones’ book Lonely Boy.
@TwentyTwenty90
3 жыл бұрын
Spot on. Just finished the book myself - exceptional.
@halloweenjack4482
2 жыл бұрын
Malcolm actually put the Sex Pistols together just to get Steve off the streets as he was a shocking thief at the time.
@gcroller93
2 жыл бұрын
You watched the new series? Tis worth a watch homie
'where's the Money?' ' The Swindle continues...'.
@sexobscura
4 жыл бұрын
'he never trusted anybody - let alone a bank'
@sexobscura
4 жыл бұрын
@rj zander killed bambi ...
@jocksilver7
3 жыл бұрын
@@sexobscura he was a ''human bank'' per se.
@lordcharfield4529
3 жыл бұрын
@@sexobscura Russ Meyer shot Bambi…….look it up!
@jocksilver7
19 күн бұрын
@@sexobscura Really?! It'd be too risqué , even for a Situationist, i guess.
How interesting to listen to, love hearing Malcolm's stories
Man, I could listen this for hours. I love talk about music.
Jonesy just seems to bring out the best in everyone.🤔
@renebascur4290
3 жыл бұрын
toó much . bloody incredible man anf life
Malcolm was a great English flâneur, so creative and charming. He made the world a more fun place to be. Left us way too soon.
No matter what about the (lost)? Money, Malcolm tell,s great stories and l could listen to him all day. And without Malcolm ,The Pistols would never have happened. So they do owe him a lot of gratitude.
McClaren is very entertaining and charming! Also, a brilliant marketer and good talker. Very smart and clever guy. It’s funny how he laughs when Steve asks him where’s the money? What a provacateur.
@kaptinshazbat7535
3 жыл бұрын
@@LarzGustafsson we're all crooks.
Malcom may have ripped off a lot of people over the years but he's gotta be one of the best raconteurs.
@grahamgiles6581
4 жыл бұрын
Bollox! he was a talentless parasite
@BB.halo_heir
3 жыл бұрын
He's both
@drpepa09
3 жыл бұрын
@@grahamgiles6581 You know nothing.
@kaptinshazbat7535
3 жыл бұрын
The 5th pistol👍
The most crazy manager ever
One of my favourite McClaren quotes is "England is the home of the flasher"
Great stuff, Steve is the ideal interviewer for MM, he can't bullshit Steve
What a great human mind this Jones guy has!
‘ where’s the money?..’ both laughing sez it all 😂
@JETJOOBOY
4 жыл бұрын
There was a rumour.
@jamesmatthews5639
4 жыл бұрын
cash for chaos
@Eleventhearlofmars
4 жыл бұрын
rj zander mclaren had all their trousers down ( ripped them off) Lydon took mclaren to court and won, don’t think any of the others got anything back though.
@antigen4
4 жыл бұрын
no they conspired to fool the public that there was a 'conspiracy'
@bernardjharmsen304
3 жыл бұрын
"The swindle continues" ha
Jonesy needs to get Andrew Loog Oldham on the show
@MrShaunsk
4 жыл бұрын
Yes. That would be great.
@carpetbeggar
4 жыл бұрын
Or Prince Andrew.
@chuckberry8852
4 жыл бұрын
He's still alive? That would be great but I think the "Bro code" would prevent him from telling his best tales. Just imagine the stories. Get him and Marianne Faithful on together and watch the fireworks!
McLaren is always entertaining, but you wouldn't trust as far as you could throw him.
@revol148
4 жыл бұрын
+Shack his winning 2 million votes in an Mayoral election he pulled out of is one of many in this interview alone !
@michaelstephen819
4 жыл бұрын
Same for any manager in this business - Sharon Osbourne, anyone?
@revol148
4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelstephen819 Her father, Don Arden was a ruthless nightmare of a man who screwed everyone he managed over - she even admits that in an interview with Jonsey. McLaren, Arden & Brian Epstein were all Jews by the way.....just saying.
@michaelstephen819
4 жыл бұрын
@@revol148 Yes, that's where she gets it from. Wendy Dio seems to be joining the same club. Hologram in your husband's memory?
@revol148
4 жыл бұрын
@Spencer Proctor ....is there not a grain of truth in most generalisations? Take the Russian oligarchs who stripped the country of its wealth in the 1990's when all the state assets were privatised with many leaving the country - how many of those oligarchs were NOT members of god's chosen people? Clue: almost none.
McLaren has such specific and clear memories of it all. I guess he was not high on drugs or drunk most of the time.
Great interview. Amusing that THIS interview is used verbatim as the plot and script for a lot of the 'Pistol' series on FX.
One of the best interviews Jones did. This one, Chrissie Hynde, and Seymore Stein. Class!
Riveting. Several things can be true at the same time: MM is incredibly charming and unprincipled. Jonesy knows MM ripped him off but remains grateful for the opportunity (he knows he's still far ahead of where he'd be without MM), and the Pistols would have still been a band wirhout MM, but nowhere near the band they became.
@cejannuzi
2 ай бұрын
I don't think McLaren advised or forced him to be a heroin addict, and that is pretty much how he wrecked his post-Pistols career. Sure the world and the industry weren't very fair about recognizing Jones as one of the major musical talents behind the Pistols--the other being Matlock, but he was very self-destructive.
Quite a few lines lifted from this interview that ended up in ‘Pistol’. Great to listen to this again.
@78stephie
2 жыл бұрын
Love this!
The moment McClaren says the word "Mongols", Jones starts laughing. I'm crying :))
@lordcharfield4529
3 жыл бұрын
I was the same 🤣
@mjh5437
18 күн бұрын
Delightfully non-PC moment
London has a population of just above 20 million Malcolm said...This interview makes me understand how crazy he was. Solid personality. RIP.
@neilsun2521
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah i was thinking 'isn't it more like 8 million Malcom?'
@ricjones5749
4 жыл бұрын
It feels like it sometimes
@gazriley624
2 жыл бұрын
14 million if you include Greater London
@TheFormerkgbchief
Жыл бұрын
I was told that 20 million people are in London every day, a lot of them passing through.
What a character. He was like something out of dickens.
Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story 👌
Its Just Great that these 2 old mates Still got on so well, after all the court cases, ect......xxxxx
We don't want the swindle to end Malcolm. Carry on.
@neilsun2521
4 жыл бұрын
He's dead.
"Where's the money" lol..... priceless cockney banter😅
I had to laugh, Malcolm impersonating Derbyshire born Vivienne "yer got the wrong John"
Malcolm could tell a story really well! Great stuff...!
This is like Badfinger interviewing THEIR manager
@MikeGervasi
3 жыл бұрын
Badfinger had it worse. They lost all their money AND were on the hook to the record company. Poor Pete Ham hung himself over it. Polley should rot in hell.
Amazing how some people can rip you off and you still like them,some talent that.
@gostrum1
2 жыл бұрын
It takes one to know one
@richarddixon9606
2 жыл бұрын
@@gostrum1 Eh
@douglasfreeman3229
2 жыл бұрын
A particular talent of psychopaths. Politicians do it. They punch your face then say they will drive you to the hospital, then leave you bleeding to death believing that you are in a hospital bed surrounded by medical staff.
he's hard work, can see why so many people disliked him. Absolutely no room is big enough for him and john lydon at the same time
@mjh5437
18 күн бұрын
You must be quite dense if you don`t find this extremely interesting and amusing.
I listened to this interview a while ago but now in the meantime I have read Steve's book. This is so much more interesting now and especially since Malcolm has passed the information is really more interesting and important.
Many moons ago I met Malcolm @ a Virgin Records in-store event - He was promoting the "Paris" album at the time (which is quite good) - Looking a bit sullen over the small turn out, he was nevertheless charming and very cool to chat with. Check out his BBC Radio docs (on London and his childhood) for more good story telling. ....
I enjoyed that interview, great to hear Malcolm and his well told entertaining stories.
@billyunterbuchner9197
4 жыл бұрын
u forgot to say made-up
Malcolm imitating Viv Westwoods northern accent is so funny
Malcolm was a wonderful interesting character. And made his mark on the scene. I'll still never forgive him for fucking up The Dolls. RIP Malcolm
@sugarjoe50
2 жыл бұрын
Malcom didn't fuck up the Dolls, heroin did.
@mjh5437
10 ай бұрын
Dolls screwed themself up.
@ianwhitehead691
10 ай бұрын
Yep, 💉 definitely the Smack.🤤
My God Mr. Jones here you are with the best interviews with musicians I love it cause it's about music fashion story telling and other things that the guest wants us to know he's easy going and funny which disarms the guest and we get mote.subsqribe folks.
It's hard to hate Malcolm because he's very honest in his shityness.
@comicblueswithjonygitar36
4 жыл бұрын
He's Fagan come to life my dears.
@yinoveryang4246
4 жыл бұрын
It’s not too hard to hate him. After the Sex pistols everything he did, to cut a long story short, failed. No taste, despite pretending otherwise throughout his life. The only bit that DID succeed (Pistols) succeeded only though luck. Several levels of blag, and bullshit, there’s so much provably nonsense things said in this interview. “These Mongolians, they’ve got the beat”. What? He’ was one morally dubious bullshitter too.
@elizabethhann4028
4 жыл бұрын
@@comicblueswithjonygitar36 You're someone who understands him. Thank goodness for that.
@sexobscura
4 жыл бұрын
just like Ted Bundy
@chrisbennett606
4 жыл бұрын
Yin over Yang how do you know he's not telling the truth on the Mongolian
"How can I repay you?"
@frankelgueta1350
2 жыл бұрын
😆😂
In his book I think Jones said Malcolm was always encouraging them to create chaos but would shit himself at the first sign of trouble lol
What a storyteller
Steve to Malcalm have you ever taken a lie detector test?Bwhahahahaha!
Nice upload, Charles Hawtrey, but I put it to you that you are an imposter! Hah!
Again, thanks for putting these up, real treat. Now, where's that Bollocks box set...
Steve Jones listening to Sex Pistols stories like a fan.
I never knew Harold Steptoe was involved with the film.
2021.Timeless songs and the history.Steve,Paul,Glen,Johns,Malcolm,Viv, as a Yankee from Boston usa,was nice folks even though it was a bit hairy,lol.Wish I could been a roadie,but I was 12 and to get back to the states.😀❤
i always thought it was strange how much animosity Lydon had towards Malcolm, i always thought they seemed really similar in a lot of ways they even looked like they could have ben related.
2005 ? Jones needs to be on everyday
I was already $100,000 in and I did not want to pay any more, Jonesy you should have used the money you took from us, boom boom you got him well said, timed it perfectly.
John Lydon surely got a lot of people to hate this guy for no really good reason. why? Malcolm helped John Lydon to get where is is/ went. Because a lot of it was Malcolm McLaren's ideas. Big mouths and hyper social chatty personality types need other people to steer them, especially when they are young like John Lydon at the time. Vivienne Westwood...Also owes everything to him with her fashion empire now. She knew NOTHING, or very little except to make alterations and sew a few things when she met him. Everything she learned from him. IT WAS ALL HIS IDEAS. He went to art school. Some of the ideas of punk, especially the antagonist or social/ political forms of UK Punk is rooted in Situational-ism a 1960's confrontational philosophy/ politics, art movement...which Malcolm knew about. Jones and cook knew this and accepted it and him for all his sneaky and scammy ways.
@jonahwhale9047
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but Malcolm couldn't sew, so it was 50/50 with Westwood.
McClaren was fun to listen to but if you want to know what he was doing, just note the following when he mentions in the interview having run for London Mayor (in 2000) and he says he got 2 million votes (by a strange sort of calculation, 9% of 20 million Londoners): 1. Total turnout was 34%. 2. The number of votes cast in both rounds was 1.3 million, making the total population eligible roughly 4.9 million. 3. Malcolm withdrew before the election, thereby receiving 0 votes. But hey, why let the facts get in the way of a good life story!
I love that “where’s the money ?” Proper bloke Steve is.
Old but gold.
Listening to them pissing themselves laughing at what they got away with all those years ago is very heart warming.
Fantastic. Great story teller indeed. I always wondered the background story.
Fascinating great English Eccentric,super brght mind and always interesting character.
What a clever business man, God Bless the Sex Pistols 🏴🔥🕸️🌱
Although Malcolm McLaren has " Continued To Divide Opinion " Over the years I think that his " Significance And Intelligence " Are Indisputable regardless of anything else !!! From Adrian Browne 1965
Oh Malcolm, miss the old bugger!
I've seen so many Malcolm McLaren interviews and he always came off as serious and blunt. Now all this laughing may be an act, but at the same time---this rare carefree and good-natured side might be only seen when the camera lights are off---but brought out here because he's being interviewed by Steve Jones.
@Fractalite
4 жыл бұрын
You can see he was totally at ease - enjoying himself - and Steve totally encouraged him to run free with tales in a lighthearted manner . They constantly flirted and giggled over the idea that Malcolm was indulging in artistic license. I think this interview was absolutely unique.
How interesting those days were. Can't imagine anything being as interesting on the king's road today. When did we become so boring? How do you get that back.
@Whiplashed
3 жыл бұрын
getting rid of the internet...
@mjh5437
18 күн бұрын
@@Whiplashed Spot on mate.
Jonesy's great ♡
We used to use our old amigas live on stage back in the early 90s The cheesy old rave stuff we used to pump out. ....aahh the good old bad old days
Could listen to Malcolm a lot.
The Marvellous Malcolm McLaren
@sexobscura
4 жыл бұрын
okay if you say so
@danielaschwarz1971
4 жыл бұрын
@@sexobscura 😂😂😂
Je reminds me of C3POs actor.
This is Gold now, if you know what I mean. The Sex Pistols keep changing the world.
I'm hearing "Boys' Chorus" at the start with Malcolm's laughter. Novelty song? Maybe but pretty great too.
2 bands changed the world in my lifetime...Beatles and Pistols
@andchat6241
4 жыл бұрын
Yup ...the SEX BEATLES would be some combo...... (though there was actually a late 70s band with that name)
@STETTRACE
4 жыл бұрын
Hendrix and Eddie Van Halen and Blackmore as well
@andchat6241
4 жыл бұрын
@@STETTRACE , yes Jimi ,Eddie & Ritchie were top rate guitarists....but, that's not really a reply to James Ballards "2 bands changed the world....."
@sexobscura
4 жыл бұрын
you forgot The Carpenters and ABBA
@andchat6241
4 жыл бұрын
James Ballard ..I guess the Pistols got a chunk of Beatles via Glen Matlock ( or as McClaren rather unfairly calls him 'the Saturday boy') ..in his Book 'Lonely Boy' Jones says how much Matlock (musically) taught them....Jones also states his main 'musical hero' was Rod Stewart...
Malcolm Mclaren simply the Best
Good to see they can laugh about it, great interview. I bet Malcolm still has his fingers in a few pies
"Lightening Strikes" the first song Steve and Malcolm were trying name the artist on wasn't Lou Chrisitie, it was Frankie Valley and the Four Seasons.
@lysanderofsparta3708
4 жыл бұрын
No, it really was Lou Christie who originally recorded "Lightning Strikes" in 1965.
@chuckberry8852
4 жыл бұрын
@@lysanderofsparta3708 Technically you are correct. I would just note that in Steve's mind he was referring to the Frankie Valley and the Four Seasons version as you can hear him start to say "The Four Seasons". You win win this time Batman!
@lysanderofsparta3708
4 жыл бұрын
@@chuckberry8852 Lou Christie (real name: Luigi Sacco) was often mistaken for Frankie Valli -- another Italian-American singer from the early 1960's with an incredibly loud and powerful falsetto voice.
@chuckberry8852
4 жыл бұрын
@@lysanderofsparta3708 Interesting. As far as I remember Frankie Valley and the Four Seasons did cover that tune. I remember a TV commercial for their greatest hits featuring a sound bite from that song amongst others. I guess it was a natural fit for Frankie's voice.
the mongolian/chinese all-girl group talk cracks me up ! 😂😂😂
@andchat6241
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't think they ever topped the charts ...neither did 'she sheriff'& other 'McClaren protégés' ..but 1 great group is more than enough....
I think its unreal that the band only had 1 album!? It just keeps going today
@MrMh722
4 жыл бұрын
That might be the best thing about it and the reason why it's so special!
@blakejohnson7148
4 жыл бұрын
It's a great album.
@hawkeyefire6208
3 жыл бұрын
They were told they couldn’t play and John couldn’t sing, how wrong they were. It’s still sounds fresh today and the quality is un questionable. One album and still being talked about in high regard. Simple but fantastic. Stay Free all
@mjh5437
18 күн бұрын
It still gives me goosepimples
15:10 - whoah I never knew Westwood was Welsh
Population of London 20 million???? divide that figure by 2, Malcolm then you''ll be A LOT closer
Weird how McLaren never got done for putting a naked 14yo girl in film/inside cover of the Swindle record making her look like be Sue Catwoman, then that Bow Wow Wow stuff.
@mjh5437
10 ай бұрын
Weird how you never got done for masturbating over it.
"You never call"
@wellthatisgr8er
4 жыл бұрын
- ,,You never call!''
I like how Malcolm makes fun of vivienne westwood's accent. 21:10
@mjh5437
18 күн бұрын
Does it very well too lol
Malcolm and Tony Wilson I always thought got the short end of the stick for their brilliance and guts. Would the Pistols have happened without McLaren? Certainly not to the extent we know them now I'm sure. But to slag him off as this useless money grubber that messed everything up I never bought for a minute. Yeah, maybe he manipulated Glen out of the band. But he saw the brilliance in Sid to replace him. And yeah, he may have contributed to Sid's downfall - but he tried to keep Nancy away as much as everyone else. So Sid was doomed soon as he met her and got on the junk, and really Malcolm GLORIFIED him to the infamy he has to this day. The Great Rock N' Roll Swindle is really Sid's movie. And Sid looks and sounds fabulous in it! So yeah, it may have pissed a lot of money away, made Malcolm look like the bad guy. And Ronnie Bigg's taking the piss on everything. But most remember Sid in it, and rightfully so. So if that was just to make money from after Sid checked out, which he was going to anyways - gotta credit Malcolm for doing that. He could just as easily told Sid to piss off and bring Glen back or somebody else. And Sid would've died with Nancy in Essex or Akron unnoticed.
@sexobscura
4 жыл бұрын
Wilson is like McLaren in that he likes to [fictionally] place himself in the centre of all the cultural action when the truth is that they were *NOT*
@andchat6241
4 жыл бұрын
While the end of Sids life was a tradgedy, Steve Jones was an illiterate criminal whose life was greatly improved by knowing McClaren..& Lydons line that 'Malcolm put nothing into the Pistols is clearly incorrect' he had the name already, put 'the Band' together ,got them somewhere to practice & possibly of most importance together with Vivian designed great clothes so they looked 'like stars' from the start.. With some great lyrics from Lydon & some good cover versions they were 'up & running'..
@deanpd3402
4 жыл бұрын
There is no brilliance in a Tavistock operation.
@jonstern7511
2 жыл бұрын
@@deanpd3402 what did Tavistock do here?
Brilliant man. Worth it for buffalo gals.
@mjh5437
18 күн бұрын
That was a low spot
I certainly believe you Malcolm....you had the knack or the black art of what is "cool".
Just the bees knees... Brit marketing of vital music from the late great Malcolm M.
@krisscanlon4051
3 ай бұрын
Malcolm relived the infamous story that changed popular culture. Hard to believe it all. Jonesy literally relived the story as though he heard it the first time.
9:20 I wonder if Malcolm murdered that guy...
Funny that mack ended up doing the best song the one with the skipping rope video hahaha
THE TRADE OFF WAS THE " SPEAK EASY "
Malcolm McLaren - So uninterested in the band until they made a impact, then made it about him.
Hate to say this, but if it wasn’t for Malcolm we would never have had the Sex Pistols.
@sexobscura
4 жыл бұрын
they existed well before he got them to help sell his wares
@nkmcfrln
4 жыл бұрын
@@sexobscura You're full of shit.
@fanboy2015
4 жыл бұрын
sexobscura No
@Muirton66
4 жыл бұрын
@@sexobscura The man is 100% correct, no Malcolm no Sex Pistols......fact
@andchat6241
4 жыл бұрын
@@sexobscura , well cook & jones (+ Wally Nightingale) were ' a band' in the way many of have been & as a' natural progression ' from Steve's Ability to steal instruments (& many other things),Inc' Bowies pro microphones from 'Ziggys farewell gigs' at Hammersmith Odeon ...but in '75 McClaren had the name (printed on his Love/Hate shirts sold in his & Vivs shop) 'Kutie Jones & his Sex Pistols' .they played 1 gig with steve on vocals...He wasn't comfortable on vox so they looked for another vocalist...the songs in some style 'written before' john joining were 'Did you know wrong' & 'Pretty vacant' ...as earlier live recordings show e.g. I have an lp from Manchester June 76 they've added 'problems & 17' to the set (still includes Substitute, gimme no lip, what you gonna do? & no fun....)
mad genius
Have you ever taken a lie detector test? 😂😂😂😂😂 Man- you are hilerious
Man...started slow but then sucked me in big time. McLaren's voice and style is so unique...he's like a 70s Fagin.
@shack7631
4 жыл бұрын
He is a fantastic story. You could listen to him all night. The question is how much to believe.
@sexobscura
4 жыл бұрын
a 70s Fagin [as he'd like to purport] - he's more like an eternal conniver [as the world knows]
@terrythekittie
4 жыл бұрын
Or punk's answer to Arthur Daley.