Making the Case - 1996 Bulls

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There are eight teams since 1970 that I think you can make the argument for as being the greatest NBA team of all time. The 1995-1996 Chicago Bulls are one of them.
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  • @nickmontalbano9573
    @nickmontalbano95732 жыл бұрын

    “Hey Boss? Yea I gotta take my lunch early….there’s a new ‘Making the Case’.”

  • @pcm1011

    @pcm1011

    2 жыл бұрын

    Got the whole office on break to watch this

  • @husasizzle

    @husasizzle

    2 жыл бұрын

    You got one hour.

  • @LowdownBoy

    @LowdownBoy

    2 жыл бұрын

    For real. Quality over quantity.

  • @LowdownBoy

    @LowdownBoy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pcm1011 lmao

  • @zojirushi1

    @zojirushi1

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol I was eating lunch while watching this video tool! Great minds think alike!

  • @cubfan
    @cubfan2 жыл бұрын

    Greatest player ever, Greatest Coach ever, Greatest sidekick ever, Greatest rebounder since the 60s, Best 6th man in the league, Most accurate shooter ever, Highest winning percentage ever, Best Net RTG ever... Is this really a debate...or a coronation? :)

  • @multi-florum

    @multi-florum

    2 жыл бұрын

    If this actually happened, Draymond vs. Rodman would derail Warriors vs. Bulls to the point where the series would never finish.

  • @Enonymous99

    @Enonymous99

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Green Lion the warriors would get eat alive by the bulls, you the fool for thinking other wise, 2 major differences In those teams, 1 the warriors whole team is legit trash on defense compared to the 96 bulls and 2, the bulls are just as good on defense as offense Jordan shuts down curry Rodman shuts down Durant Pippen shuts down green Harper stops klay The warriors don’t have a true center Also the warriors bench is pretty bad compared to the bulls Bulls in 5 games easy

  • @user-sk4wz

    @user-sk4wz

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Enonymous99 if you new anything you would now that neither curry nor Durant can be stopped by anyone

  • @Enonymous99

    @Enonymous99

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@user-sk4wz kawhi Leonard proved you wrong on that one, so if I know nothing, you know even less hahahaha

  • @Enonymous99

    @Enonymous99

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@user-sk4wz KD was just stopped by the bucks, the 96 bulls have a better defense than the 2021 bucks and KD couldn’t get past them, you really think KD could beat pippen an Rodman? The same pippen that made magic Johnson look like an amateur and the same Dennis Rodman that stopped shaq ? Riiiight, KD better than shaq ? Riiiiight, steph better than magic ? Riiiiiight, I think it’s YOU THAT KNOWS KNOWING

  • @yoshiwall5870
    @yoshiwall58702 жыл бұрын

    Dennis Rodman is the greatest baseball pitcher in basketball history

  • @g.o.a.tgaming7349

    @g.o.a.tgaming7349

    2 жыл бұрын

    wdym

  • @handfullofsean

    @handfullofsean

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m gonna zag here

  • @marcusjames9432

    @marcusjames9432

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow

  • @jaycosper8048

    @jaycosper8048

    2 жыл бұрын

    3 days ago? The video just came out

  • @noahkupinsky1418

    @noahkupinsky1418

    2 жыл бұрын

    @jelly bean I’m guessing patreon supporters get to see it early

  • @hypepriest6061
    @hypepriest60612 жыл бұрын

    Next making the case should be on the 0-2 clippers

  • @dysxxvii

    @dysxxvii

    2 жыл бұрын

    LMAOOO

  • @verward

    @verward

    2 жыл бұрын

    lol. you know you're in trouble when you're ahead 2-0 against the clippers. They are gonna pull something off...

  • @chrissullivan6572

    @chrissullivan6572

    2 жыл бұрын

    Imagine if they started a season 0-2.....they may win 80 straight

  • @hypepriest6061

    @hypepriest6061

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@chrissullivan6572 pretty sure they started the season 2-0. They beat the lakers opening night then beat the nuggets on Christmas

  • @LowdownBoy

    @LowdownBoy

    2 жыл бұрын

    Legendary username

  • @salvatoresultana4058
    @salvatoresultana40582 жыл бұрын

    I do think that Dennis Rodman can actually throw 120 miles per hour.

  • @6266jamal

    @6266jamal

    2 жыл бұрын

    As freakishly athletic as he was it wouldn’t shock me

  • @Lycan1483

    @Lycan1483

    2 жыл бұрын

    Or run sprints at 120mph, and a marthon at 80mph.. LOL

  • @blue-pi2kt

    @blue-pi2kt

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure Dennis thinks Dennis can.

  • @bertmustin

    @bertmustin

    2 жыл бұрын

    Rodman would be the pitcher with a nasty curveball.

  • @washcloud

    @washcloud

    2 жыл бұрын

    ...back then he possibly COULD, but TODAY, being in his 60ies and all, he probably can hardly throw his underpants across his bedroom.

  • @reillyjamessullivan6940
    @reillyjamessullivan69402 жыл бұрын

    Kukoc actually (deservedly) made the Hall of Fame this year

  • @rcpainter3023

    @rcpainter3023

    2 жыл бұрын

    And Completely deserved it!!!

  • @jasondyrkacz8270

    @jasondyrkacz8270

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pippen is taking it harder than his wife did with Future.

  • @rGGdom

    @rGGdom

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jasondyrkacz8270 xD

  • @lukeguilfoyle2425

    @lukeguilfoyle2425

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jasondyrkacz8270 bruh

  • @immortal8447

    @immortal8447

    2 жыл бұрын

    So therefore, the Bulls were a super team

  • @ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI
    @ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI2 жыл бұрын

    Luc Longly was a star here in Australia....You cant imagine how cool it was to a 90’s Australian NBA fan to know one of our own played alongside 23.

  • @maxpeacock9503

    @maxpeacock9503

    2 жыл бұрын

    Him and Kukoc were done incredibly dirty in The Last Dance honestly, yeah Longley wasn't exactly Hakeem but he was a pretty adept big man who could fit in with the culture of the team, and Kukoc was arguably the third star over rodman in the last chip

  • @whenisdinner2137

    @whenisdinner2137

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@maxpeacock9503 defensively Longly definitely pulled his win weight.

  • @rGGdom

    @rGGdom

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@maxpeacock9503 what do u mean? I think Kukoc was pretty good in the last dance actually. They made it clear he was a superstar in Europe.

  • @maxpeacock9503

    @maxpeacock9503

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rGGdom Jordan and Pippen negged him, he didn't get NEARLY enough screen time for his actual role for the team ( leader of the second squad which was capable enough that opposing teams rotations had to account for it) AND the fact he sacrificed by going to the bench in the first place

  • @blowc1612

    @blowc1612

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@maxpeacock9503 because that’s exactly how Jordan and Pippen met Kukoc it was actually a lot worse in details of what happened in that first game but they did gave him respect and talked to him after the 2nd game for medal.

  • @Mister__Jey
    @Mister__Jey2 жыл бұрын

    Talking about load management : In the 3 seasons from 1995 to 1998 in the second 3peat, Michael Jordan played EVERY SINGLE game, every regular game of the season, every playoff game, every final game.

  • @lisaa8795

    @lisaa8795

    2 жыл бұрын

    At his age, too. That strength training program improved an already superior athlete, and gave him even more stamina to be able to compete with the younger guys when he was in his mid-30s. An age when most players back then were starting to slow down.

  • @dlrico

    @dlrico

    2 жыл бұрын

    Even in Jordan's advanced age on the Wizards, he played every game till he was injured in the first season and all 82 games in his final season at age 39. Load management, indeed.

  • @jonatansvanlund3868

    @jonatansvanlund3868

    2 жыл бұрын

    I swear The most unbelevable thing about Mj is his stamina, IF he did load managment he'd be playing till his 60s

  • @JeyDub08

    @JeyDub08

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not everybody, even the top athletes on planet earth today are God's favorite. Seriously, Jordan's genetic gifts are one in 10 million type stuff combine that with the fact that his mindset is also one in 10 million type stuff and you get basically a once in a generation athletic super freak. You can't really blame guys who have had degenerative injuries like Kawhi for not playing 82 games every single season because they might end up like guys like T Mac who had injury after injury after injury

  • @roboninja3194

    @roboninja3194

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JeyDub08 No maybe ya can't blame Kawhi. But there are a bunch of other players in today's game you could blame for the load management nonsense.

  • @sorinnoctis652
    @sorinnoctis6522 жыл бұрын

    This and the pistons ending gave me the chills. Also lol "72 doesn't mean a thing without a ring"

  • @yoshiwall5870
    @yoshiwall58702 жыл бұрын

    Also, thanks for bringing up Pippen's criminally underrated 1994 season. This angle really benefitted from it

  • @Splackavellie85

    @Splackavellie85

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wasn't that the season where he benched himself in clutch time?

  • @codino97

    @codino97

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Splackavellie85 yes

  • @SnAkEyEs9876

    @SnAkEyEs9876

    2 жыл бұрын

    22 points on 49% from the field 9 boards 6 assists 3 steals 3rd in DPOY 3rd in MVP

  • @scottb3034

    @scottb3034

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Splackavellie85 He benched himself for not getting the shot. not because he was scared. for what it is worth.

  • @Splackavellie85

    @Splackavellie85

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@scottb3034 It's not worth much, if you're trying to make the argument that KD wasn't involving his teammates. Scottie didn't want to involve his teammates either, but at least KD stayed in the game until the end.

  • @Zlenny
    @Zlenny2 ай бұрын

    I’ve always heard people say the 1996 Bulls were the best Chicago Bulls team but I didn’t realize how good they were. Thanks for this video.

  • @pogimax
    @pogimax2 жыл бұрын

    The 96 Bulls also can do a killer smallball if needed. Put Rodman at the 5, Kukoc at the 4, Pip and MJ at the 3 and 2 respectively, and switch Harper and Kerr at the 1 depending on the situation. People who say the 96 Bulls don't translate in the modern era - - this team will take it personally.

  • @RemoWilliams1227

    @RemoWilliams1227

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dude I would pay a year's salary to see let's say 96 Bullies versus 17 Warriors. I think it would be INCREDIBLE to see how the Warriors (coached by Kerr lol) would deal with the bulls inside scoring, or what the Bulls try to shut down the warriors flamethrowers and ball handling.... Pipe dreams man.

  • @9pepe7

    @9pepe7

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, they used that lineup a lot in the second threepeat

  • @76JStucki

    @76JStucki

    Жыл бұрын

    Right on, this was a very deep and versatile team. Personally I think they would eat the 2017 Warriors alive. I think the Warriors would be lucky not to get swept in a 7 game series.

  • @Dr.J42

    @Dr.J42

    Жыл бұрын

    @@76JStucki I mean two mvps in their prime is pretty hard to beat.

  • @Someone-hi1nt

    @Someone-hi1nt

    11 ай бұрын

    @@76JStucki while im also a believer that this team > the 2017 warriors team, dont be ridiculous, that warriors team isnt getting swept in any best of 7 series ever against any team

  • @Watchingvideoslikeu
    @Watchingvideoslikeu2 жыл бұрын

    MJ led the league in minutes and played all 100 games, led the league in points, won MVP, first team all defense, first team all nba. Ladies and gentlemen this is your GOAT.

  • @sportstalkonly1442

    @sportstalkonly1442

    8 ай бұрын

    No that is your goat

  • @pixel5080

    @pixel5080

    7 ай бұрын

    @@sportstalkonly1442nope he’s yours as well whether you like it or not. Cope and seethe 😂

  • @sportstalkonly1442

    @sportstalkonly1442

    7 ай бұрын

    @@pixel5080 no he's not clearly. I'm not a Jordan worshipper. Foh

  • @joker7ford427
    @joker7ford4272 жыл бұрын

    Rodman's offensive rebounding was vital for the Bulls in the 96 Finals. Countless second chance opportunities. MJ shot only 41.5% from the field in the 96 Finals.

  • @Blahblahblehblhah

    @Blahblahblehblhah

    4 ай бұрын

    Shhhh Jordan fans don’t want to know this

  • @KrowFPS
    @KrowFPS2 жыл бұрын

    Inject this content into my veins, wish these could come out more often but appreciate the effort put into them.

  • @CovfefeDotard

    @CovfefeDotard

    2 жыл бұрын

    If they come out more often then quality would go down

  • @Sf75178
    @Sf751782 жыл бұрын

    A team where everyone knew their role and performed to the highest standards. Also helped that they had the best player of all time. Oh yeah and it don't mean a thing without the ring

  • @ChessJourneyman

    @ChessJourneyman

    2 жыл бұрын

    Minus the racist Pippen butthurt raging over Kukoc making the winning shot.

  • @Sf75178

    @Sf75178

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChessJourneyman he has lost the plot

  • @lavarbukowski578
    @lavarbukowski5782 жыл бұрын

    Kukoc is so underrated.

  • @jescorpizo7614
    @jescorpizo76142 жыл бұрын

    Most underrated basketball content creator at the moment!

  • @juderayalmario1087

    @juderayalmario1087

    2 жыл бұрын

    HELL YEAH

  • @erasmussen14

    @erasmussen14

    2 жыл бұрын

    I feel like I know the game better than most. I also waste too much time watching KZread nba content. I mostly think, well, that was amateur, I could do that better when watching others video's. I don't think I could come close to what Clayton is doing here. These videos are exceptional. The views aren't crazy high, but they will get there. The cream rises to the top and the vids will catch someone's eye and end up right there along necessary viewing for any hoops fan.

  • @ahau123411
    @ahau1234112 жыл бұрын

    shoutout to the least interesting thing in the world, a field in Kansas

  • @ClaytonCrowley

    @ClaytonCrowley

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you know, you know

  • @osker4615

    @osker4615

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm also a knower

  • @wgsuperstar7730

    @wgsuperstar7730

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ClaytonCrowley crowley, you suck pal

  • @FyRaka
    @FyRaka2 жыл бұрын

    Rodman underrated, Chicago had a big 3 for these 3 years. There ain't no other defender like Rodman, maybe Hakeem kobe or MJ himself, but he beats em all in rebound and hustle

  • @themaninblack8271

    @themaninblack8271

    2 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree Rodman has them beat in versatility as well, sure MJ and Pip can get steals and blocks on big men but they couldn’t actually wrestle with them on the block like Rodman could.

  • @Abbad1579

    @Abbad1579

    2 жыл бұрын

    Except the 1996 bulls were terrible against big men.

  • @themaninblack8271

    @themaninblack8271

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Abbad1579 they did beat the Knicks and magic that year iirc

  • @paysonfox88

    @paysonfox88

    2 жыл бұрын

    Rodman was a phenomenal defensive rebounder. I've only come across one guy who could give him a run for his money in NBA history. That man was Elgin Baylor of the Los Angeles Lakers 1960s. Elgin Baylor had more rebounds per game in his career than Dennis rodman. Elgin Baylor was only 6 ft 5. Dennis rodman was 6 ft 7. I would say that Baylor was the only pound for pound match for rodman. The more amazing thing about rodman was that he was putting up these massive rebounding numbers in his mid to late 30s. That's when people are supposed to have lost a few steps, and not be as good.

  • @groverrogers6916
    @groverrogers69162 жыл бұрын

    This made me cry. I remember getting a TV with cable in my bedroom and watching all these bulls games as a teenager. I'm almost 40 now and I can atest none of the teams since this 96 bulls team were ever as good as this bulls team. Also, Hakeem olajowan is the biggest snub off your making the case goat list.

  • @jt4434

    @jt4434

    2 жыл бұрын

    i'm glad i saw your comment, because that's how i feel when i watch anything about the Bulls from that era. I didn't have a tv in my room, but my parents were into sports so we watched Jordan's dominance together. I remember his post baseball career a little more clear as i was a teenager and could comprehend what i was seeing. I would take the 96 Bulls vs any team past or present, confidently.

  • @T65XJ

    @T65XJ

    2 жыл бұрын

    There’s no way to quantify swagger and mental toughness. But as someone of similar age to you guys, it makes me laugh when I hear the 2017 warriors could beat this team.

  • @NicolasAlcalde

    @NicolasAlcalde

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@T65XJ It depends how you do that exercise. If you pluck the Bulls out of the 90s and place them in 2017 they would get smoked. They didn't have a single guy in their starting lineup that could shoot the three. Without those years the line was moved up, Jordan would have the worst percentage in the history of the game. Pippen and Harper were just as bad. Longley and Rodman literally did not shoot threes. They'd be trading 2s for 3s against three of the best three point shooters ever. And that Warriors team was just as talented, if not more so, top to bottom. I am in no way a Warriors fan, but the game is completely different today and the Bulls would be about as bad as you could possibly dream up a team in the three point shooting era.

  • @T65XJ

    @T65XJ

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NicolasAlcalde I agree, if you pluck any team from any era and dropped them in the future with no info, no time to adapt, no time to watch tape, they would get smoked. Give that 96 bulls one year to acclimatise, learn the new offense, get used to the ticky tack rules, make roster changes all other NBA teams are allowed to make, they win the championship easy. Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Kukoc and Harper or Kerr would match up well with modern teams. Any time Jordan chose to make the 3 a priority (when he shoots close to three 3 pointers a game) his percentages are not bad at all (and I ignore the 22 foot line too). Pippen Kukoc and Kerr all have three point range and would improve with training and more opportunities. Jordan and Pippen would shoot a ridiculous number of foul shots every game.

  • @NicolasAlcalde

    @NicolasAlcalde

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@T65XJ That's hypothetical and there's nothing behind any of it. There are tons of guys today that practice shooting threes far more than those guys and still can't shoot. It's possible those guys just couldn't shoot. Pippen was a bad three point shooter, and again, Jordan was the worst ever without those years. There's no reason to believe they'd be great shooters with more practice. Maybe they'd be decent. They'd still be going against the undisputed best ever, possibly the next best and the best tall shooter ever. And the Warriors also had a few of the best defenders in the league, just like the Bulls did.

  • @P1P31150
    @P1P311502 жыл бұрын

    This moment, this little moment in my life, is called happiness

  • @borj_1
    @borj_1 Жыл бұрын

    It is so fantastic to see Pip get the respect he deserves.

  • @loulou7194
    @loulou71942 жыл бұрын

    People forgot that the 1996-97 Bulls regular season record could have been better than 1996. But they had avoidable losses against weaker teams like Toronto, New Jersey Nets or Cleveland. And at the end of the regular season they lost Rodman for disciplinary reasons (a headbutt against a referee, LOL!) and they lost 3 of their last 4 matches. So their 1996-97 record is 69-13 but it could have been 73, 74 or 75 victories, that's crazy !

  • @whenisdinner2137

    @whenisdinner2137

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's absolutely nutty lol

  • @solacenmute4840

    @solacenmute4840

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@whenisdinner2137 it gets crazier the next year 97-98 pippen only played 44 games and they went 62-20 only people who watch highlights and listen to commentators will think this team has a rival jordan was a sports cheat code

  • @scottb3034

    @scottb3034

    2 жыл бұрын

    they were much better because the 97 team featured a 20 game suspension for rodman for kicking the cameraman (seen in this video actually), kukoc missed 25 games and longley missed 20 and yet with 4 games remaining they could have gone 72-10 again. instead, as you said, they lost 3 of their last 4 and missed 70 wins. the 1997 was much better than the 1996 team if the could have played full strength all year. definitely could have won 75 games.

  • @scottb3034

    @scottb3034

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@solacenmute4840 all three years the bulls could have coasted to 70 wins if they could have stayed healthy/on the court. insane.

  • @solacenmute4840

    @solacenmute4840

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@scottb3034 most people don't actually watch games they listen to talking heads and form they opinions from that they don't understand how ridiculous the bulls were with jordan as the catalyst

  • @chiefsmackaho42
    @chiefsmackaho422 жыл бұрын

    I really like the way you describe the duo of mj and scottie. I feel like Scottie always gets discounted but you framed it in a way that highlighted why he was so important rather than just being mjs sidekick.

  • @RestyConcepcionJr

    @RestyConcepcionJr

    11 ай бұрын

    Scottie should see this video

  • @Bigedub101

    @Bigedub101

    6 ай бұрын

    He wasnf sidekick to me. JUST like Kobe wasnt a sidekick to Shaq after 2000 .

  • @RockSmithStudio
    @RockSmithStudio2 жыл бұрын

    Starting off strong. Definitely one of the most recognizable basketball teams of All Time. They had it All. The Wins. The Hall of Famers. The Big Moments. The Trophies.

  • @colingregonis4487
    @colingregonis44872 жыл бұрын

    Making the Case: Clayton Crowley is the GOAT basketball content creator.

  • @johnc.richardson2713
    @johnc.richardson27132 жыл бұрын

    Do you want your mind blown some more? Of the 10 losses, only 2 occurred with a full starting roster: 3 w/o Rodman, 3 w/o Longley, 1 w/o Harper, and 1 w/o Longley AND Rodman. THREE of these short-handed losses occurred by ONE point. ONE. To the Pacers, Raptors, and Hornets. 75-7 was extremely possible, and it could have been higher.

  • @Maluson

    @Maluson

    2 жыл бұрын

    Woah! Really? Mind blowned.

  • @johnc.richardson2713

    @johnc.richardson2713

    2 жыл бұрын

    Right?! I had to go back over the games a few times before I believed it.

  • @YG-do3dg

    @YG-do3dg

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is impressive but try it on some of the other all time great teams and I think you'll find similar results. Don't know but I'm guessing

  • @cheeseburger12

    @cheeseburger12

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think the most impressive is with Scottie hurt, and Rodman getting ejected in the 1st period, Jordan played the rest of the game at power forwards and grabbed over 20 rebounds to still win vs Nets. And their best player was thier power forward!

  • @flula
    @flula2 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Oh man one of my most favored teams of all times!!!

  • @adamnordmark7709

    @adamnordmark7709

    2 жыл бұрын

    well said flula

  • @sam_klotz

    @sam_klotz

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hoop nasti dunk dunk

  • @FrancoDFernando
    @FrancoDFernando2 жыл бұрын

    I just remembered....I grew up in the 90's, and just like any 90's kid, I was a Jordan fan I remember when he came back in '95, I genuinely don't think I ever doubted that Jordan would win another championship. It literally wasn't even a thought in my head.

  • @Humzahization
    @Humzahization2 жыл бұрын

    Clayton, you forgot to mention that Ron Harper was also on the 2001 Lakers.

  • @nicolasaguilerameza8703
    @nicolasaguilerameza87032 жыл бұрын

    I loved every second of the video. The 1996 Chicago Bulls were a miracle.

  • @CalebPhillips-sb3kd
    @CalebPhillips-sb3kd2 жыл бұрын

    When you’re a warriors fan and you keep hearing that they have the best record while being champions 😭😭😭😭😭

  • @ramnsesallen4375

    @ramnsesallen4375

    2 жыл бұрын

    ehh one of those teams will probably be on here, don't throw your three ring pity party yet

  • @T65XJ

    @T65XJ

    2 жыл бұрын

    They wore T-Shirts in the playoffs that said “72-10 don’t mean a thing without the ring”.

  • @whenisdinner2137

    @whenisdinner2137

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@T65XJ Jordan said it to kerr after they lost in 2016. Kerr said he was hurt. He knew what he was getting himself into lol.

  • @the010og

    @the010og

    2 жыл бұрын

    That series was bogus. The reffing was absolutely horrible

  • @scottb3034

    @scottb3034

    2 жыл бұрын

    the warriors overextended themselves. that was a 65-67 win team that overperformed to get to 73 and it eventually killed them. they were toast by the end of the 2nd round because of how hard they tried to break the record.

  • @NuggzyBogues1
    @NuggzyBogues12 жыл бұрын

    Any time anyone can wax poetic about my Bulls I shed a tear 😢, well done. Those Bulls teams made me happy as a 10 year old could be

  • @PadChennington
    @PadChennington2 жыл бұрын

    one of the best channels on all of youtube.. keep up the great vids clayton. such good stuff to watch during the work day lol!

  • @Proximitty
    @Proximitty2 жыл бұрын

    This is the only channel I have ever turned Sub notifications on for

  • @Jon-hn4br

    @Jon-hn4br

    2 жыл бұрын

    Didn't expect to see you in these comments lmao

  • @bensagal-morris8072
    @bensagal-morris80722 жыл бұрын

    The vibes of that ending. Makes the team seem like the Fellowship from LOTR. Then again, everything about this team screams EPIC.

  • @ztoxtube
    @ztoxtube2 жыл бұрын

    5:29 Imagine wrestling the ball into the paint vs a guy named Rodman, releasing the shot on a prayer, only to have someone called Jordan snag that shot from behind. Pretty sure I would retire after that.

  • @Gabriel73971

    @Gabriel73971

    2 жыл бұрын

    if rodman guard you, you'd be wrestling even BEFORE you have the ball on your hand

  • @imnotreal3467
    @imnotreal34672 жыл бұрын

    Not even Patrick Beverly’s mom loves him.

  • @grewdordan

    @grewdordan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Truer words have never been spoken

  • @titankiller5287

    @titankiller5287

    2 жыл бұрын

    But but but but his teammates like him…. Yea fuck Pat Bev

  • @pineapplefresh4752

    @pineapplefresh4752

    2 жыл бұрын

    Patrick Beverly does have an amazing story and does seem like a good dude off the court. But on the court? Fuck him

  • @imthegoat3195

    @imthegoat3195

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lmfaooo that's fucked up 💀

  • @ThePartarar

    @ThePartarar

    2 жыл бұрын

    Y’all need to study the tape, because there’s a reason Pat Bev gets paid so much. Genius defender

  • @raymundfernandez4172
    @raymundfernandez41722 жыл бұрын

    Jordan prapared his team mentally. To compete. To perform. He makes his teammates better not only passing them the ball. Not on handshakes but to play to win. Airness!

  • @taterporkchop
    @taterporkchop2 жыл бұрын

    I was lucky; born and raised in Chicago. I worked at a high-end men's retailer. When Michael Jordan first was drafted, he came in to buy some dress shirts. I helped him. Nice guy. Later, he partnered with the owners of the store on some business ventures. I was not his salesman in the store after the initial purchase, but still had a lot of interaction with him, and the rest of the Bulls team, who regularly came into the store to shop. I always bristle when someone suggests that "X" is better than Jordan; that "X" team is better than these Bulls. Different times, for sure. But NO ONE dominated like they did. Who's never lost a finals? MJ; that's who. Jack-The-Ripper of the NBA. LeBron? Great player. Durant? Great player. Russell? Great player. Bryant? Great player. They couldn't carry Scottie's jock-strap. I laugh when anyone thinks that they should be in the "conversation" about GOAT. There's only one; MJ. Respect to all of them; but no one was better, and no team was better.

  • @navvyeanand2083

    @navvyeanand2083

    2 жыл бұрын

    According to your logic havlicek also never lost in the finals and he has more chips than MJ. Why is he not the goat? 8-0 > 6-0

  • @lobmob3235

    @lobmob3235

    Жыл бұрын

    @@navvyeanand2083 L take… we know why this isn’t a convo…

  • @hugokentmovies4690
    @hugokentmovies46902 жыл бұрын

    Phenomenal video man, I was already a huge '96 bulls fan but somehow I'm even more of one now. Keep it up!!

  • @chubbsthestuntmonkey7262
    @chubbsthestuntmonkey72622 жыл бұрын

    I love these Making The Case vids. Thank you, Clayton!

  • @andrewogunmokun9309
    @andrewogunmokun93092 жыл бұрын

    Yesssss it’s back! Thank you for making these videos!!

  • @textmacros
    @textmacros2 жыл бұрын

    Clayton, I have to say, these videos are pure gold, and I hope you keep making more of these.

  • @rorywood1203
    @rorywood12032 жыл бұрын

    Those last couple minutes gave me legit chills. Absolutely love your videos man, keep it up!

  • @polasco77
    @polasco772 жыл бұрын

    You are dominating the category, Clay. An awesome video once more. Thank you so much.

  • @sensaivers
    @sensaivers2 жыл бұрын

    Clayton, you do an incredible job seemingly every video. Good work and thank you.

  • @SamvaranSharma
    @SamvaranSharma2 жыл бұрын

    got chills at the end with that beautiful monologue and the soaring music. i've said it before and i'll say it again - this is the best basketball channel on youtube, bar none

  • @coltonkrum6491
    @coltonkrum64912 жыл бұрын

    When you have the GOAT and one of the best rebounders ever and a top 10 SF all time, you're allready one of the best teams ever.

  • @ranholic5027

    @ranholic5027

    2 жыл бұрын

    *The BEST TEAM OF ALL TIME

  • @javigar133

    @javigar133

    2 жыл бұрын

    Top 5 SF of all time dude, not top 10

  • @SnAkEyEs9876

    @SnAkEyEs9876

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@javigar133 lebron, bird, Dr J, KD, Elgin baylor all well clear of him. Could argue Dominique Wilkins, Rick Barry and kawhi leonard aswell

  • @javigar133

    @javigar133

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SnAkEyEs9876 i think you just consider offense and defense. Bron and Bird, sure, but the others are debatable. Pippen is way, way better defender than any of those guys, more versatile and... 6 Championships man! He could have scored 30ppg and win MVPs, but he decided to win. Not sure of Dr J but I would take Pip over KD or Barry every day

  • @lisaa8795

    @lisaa8795

    2 жыл бұрын

    I love MJ. I miss MJ. But I hate the GOAT debate. What about Kareem? What about Wilt? What about Bill Russell?

  • @juderayalmario1087
    @juderayalmario10872 жыл бұрын

    Clayton is back at it again - love your channel 💯

  • @deniskolkin6341
    @deniskolkin63412 жыл бұрын

    Another brilliantly executed and wonderful video.

  • @paulmkz
    @paulmkz Жыл бұрын

    Bulls had best player of all time in mj, best perimeter defender of all time in Pippen, best modern rebounder in Rodman, best 3 pt shooter in terms of pct. of all time in Kerr, one of the best 6th man ever in Kukoc, best coach ever in Phil Jackson, one best offensive systems ever in triangle offense, best defensive team ever. Bulls were really the first modern basketball team. They were really first international team . had multiple good foreign players in Kerr (Lebanon), Kukoc (Croatia) Longley (Australia), and Wennington (Canada) . They did not rely on a dominant big man. They really had 5 interchangable players all 6'6-6'10 in MJ, Pip, Rodman, Harper, and Kukoc. and some good 3pt shooters in Kerr , Buchelor , and Kukoc. They would dominate even more in today's league. Best team ever.

  • @markcarey67
    @markcarey672 жыл бұрын

    You forgot to mention Tex Winter - no NBA team ever ran the Triangle to its full potential unless it was coached by someone who learned the system directly from Tex.

  • @salesam
    @salesam2 жыл бұрын

    Excellence and Perfection! Well done, perfect video! You really making the ease for Chicago Bulls 1996!

  • @francodingo7574
    @francodingo75742 жыл бұрын

    You are a pillar of consistency. All of your videos have excellent editing, excellent writing and excellent narration. A1 stuff!

  • @rajatiwari9788
    @rajatiwari97882 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Crowley, I don’t think you’ll see this comment. You sir, with your intricacy have been a pillar for us new basketball fans to better understand the sport. A salute to you sir.

  • @TechReviewish
    @TechReviewish2 жыл бұрын

    I can't believe there are still 3 more of these. Every time I watch a making the case video, I'm like "yep, they're the greatest" then ill rewatch another one and be like "no, they're the greatest"

  • @pantelisbraikidis4290
    @pantelisbraikidis42902 жыл бұрын

    Clayton another exquisite, world class, mind blowing video. Thank you so much. Keep on doing this state-of-the-art job. Congratulations

  • @Fredbernier14
    @Fredbernier142 жыл бұрын

    That was EPIC! You make such great work!

  • @gretchenlittle6817
    @gretchenlittle68172 жыл бұрын

    Watched this for the third time today -- another great video! And...if I'm correct only two men played on two of Clayton's best-ever teams: Kareem and Rodman. It's hard to imagine two less similar players -- their only connection being winning.

  • @lhart99
    @lhart992 жыл бұрын

    In my humble opinion, the 1996 Chicago Bulls and the 1986 Boston Celtics are the two greatest teams in history. Both teams had unbelievable home records of 39-2 and 40-1 respectably. There was no doubt in many people's minds that both teams would cap of their season with a championship. :-)

  • @idontknow-tn9jm
    @idontknow-tn9jm2 жыл бұрын

    Out of the dozens of basketball channels on here, yours has become my favorite. Just quality analysis and fantastic editing in your videos

  • @planetdrinker5385
    @planetdrinker53852 жыл бұрын

    Amazing work! Thank you

  • @sstar202
    @sstar2022 жыл бұрын

    One of the most purest scorers of all time, one of the best 2 way players ever, a perennial king of the boards, the Zen Master, and a great supporting cast.

  • @lucacomparato
    @lucacomparato2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, thats all i have to say. Thank you Clayton

  • @christopherwatkins5573
    @christopherwatkins55732 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Last two minutes gave me goosebumps!

  • @undeadslatt
    @undeadslatt2 жыл бұрын

    this is an actual masterpiece of a video! you are incredible

  • @ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI
    @ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI2 жыл бұрын

    oh yeah! the one I’ve been waiting for since you’ve covered 86 Celtics!

  • @whenisdinner2137

    @whenisdinner2137

    2 жыл бұрын

    After the 86 celtics got a fucking playoff scoring record that still stands dropped on their head there is no way I can call them the best team ever.

  • @samsamm1402
    @samsamm14022 жыл бұрын

    these get me so damn hyped lmao

  • @badmoon710
    @badmoon7102 жыл бұрын

    Good lord dude you just earned a sub. That was beautiful. I almost cried

  • @danstenmou9913
    @danstenmou99132 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the video, man you nailed it.

  • @ryanfarrier3052
    @ryanfarrier30522 жыл бұрын

    This is beautiful.

  • @Psquared2324
    @Psquared23242 жыл бұрын

    I'm insulted you only have 57k subs. Your videos are amazing.

  • @tigeryumyums9407

    @tigeryumyums9407

    2 жыл бұрын

    He actually pretty impressive considering he only has 22 videos

  • @tonybrown5958
    @tonybrown59582 жыл бұрын

    Clayton you are the best. Your making the case videos are perfect. You was able to teach my kid about magic, bird, MJ, etc.. Keep doing what you doing. It's definitely the best thing on KZread. Mad love

  • @lulwskwadwipe8074
    @lulwskwadwipe80742 жыл бұрын

    great to come home to a freshly new making the case video.

  • @kvn6794
    @kvn67942 жыл бұрын

    Still waiting for the 14 spurs 😍

  • @scottb3034

    @scottb3034

    2 жыл бұрын

    99 spurs were better.

  • @steviecritiquenewby7874
    @steviecritiquenewby78742 жыл бұрын

    Michael Jordan the greatest NBA 🏀 player I've ever seen in my eye

  • @paysonfox88

    @paysonfox88

    2 жыл бұрын

    I only got to see his understudy. When I was paying attention to the NBA, it was Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe Bryant that I liked. After Colby retired, I stopped watching basketball of any kind. You can't follow that up, Kobe was pure greatness. We talk about the pace of play and players getting 35 points now, Kobe was doing it on 1/3 less possessions. Michael Jordan as well. I think Michael Jordan might average 50 points a game in today. Kobe would be in the 40s.

  • @antichaos

    @antichaos

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@paysonfox88 How could Kobe score 50 on less possessions than guys like Curry or Harden when he was less efficient and didn’t take as many threes? Also, quit it with the ‘JoRdAn wOuLd AvErAgE 50’ oldhead mentality.

  • @JSA-Studios

    @JSA-Studios

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@antichaos if they played today they would take more threes

  • @johnbragg1578
    @johnbragg15782 жыл бұрын

    Great video again Clay my boy. Keep em up brother

  • @mapthemultiverse
    @mapthemultiverse2 жыл бұрын

    I've been hearing LAKEY INSPIRED's music more and more in video essays. Love his music, and I'm glad to see him finally getting the respect they deserve!

  • @kawaiiafangirl
    @kawaiiafangirl2 жыл бұрын

    In regards to the '91/ '92 Bulls vs. the '96 Bulls, I think that the 1996 Bulls were greater simply bc of their depth. We can argue athleticism vs. experience when it comes to MJ and Scottie, but the rest of the roster head-to-heads go towards the 1996 Bulls. Luc and Cartwright are just about even while Rodman and Ron Harper could defend against Horace Grant and Paxson respectively. B.J. Armstrong was the notable bench player in those first 2 championship teams but Toni Kukoc was obviously one of the best 6th Men of that decade and Steve Kerr's stats are comparable to that of B.J.'s. Playing in an era w/ Hakeem, Shaq, David Robinson, Ewing, and Alonzo, the Bulls Centers always held their own. Chalk it up to either help defense from the perimeter players like Jordan and Pippen or perhaps it's due to Phil Jackson's coaching, the best Centers of the 90s never exactly dominated the Bulls. The Bulls Centers couldn't score as great as others bigs, but they had the "3-Headed Monster" who could expend their 6 fouls and the Bulls wouldn't have to worry about the lack of scoring from the Center department if they ever got into foul trouble. When it comes to playing in the modern era, a lot of the perimeter players would of course have to shoot more 3s. Kerr and Pippen had no problems shooting, and other players like Jud Buechler and Toni were also knockdown shooters. Jordan and Ron Harper would also shoot more in today's game. They could play "small ball" by using Rodman at the 5, and Toni, Scottie, MJ, and either Ron Harper or Steve Kerr for the 4, 3, 2, and 1 positions. Jordan and Pippen were obviously great perimeter defenders, while Ron Harper at "6'6" would be capable of guarding the least athletic player from the 1-3 positions. Randy Brown can be used for a few minutes each game to defend at the start of the 2nd Quarter and the Bulls wouldn't have problems w/ playmaking as they would most likely have Scottie and Toni on the court at the same time. I'd say the only drawback in using Rodman in today's era was that the Bulls Rodman wasn't as quick w/ his lateral movements so he wasn't as good in the perimeter as he was in his Pistons days. A switch could cause some problems for the Bulls while his rebounding would be neutralized if the opponent has their Center located beyond the 3-Point line. Nevertheless, I think the 90s Bulls were perhaps the most adaptable team from before the 2010s that could play before their era or after.

  • @Btn1136
    @Btn11362 жыл бұрын

    I’ll never forget the day Jordan game back against the Pacers in 95. I was 12. It was a religious experience. Our king had returned.

  • @leomende_6637
    @leomende_66372 жыл бұрын

    These videos are the purest form of art... you are really an artist...

  • @user-wd7yu2tp3u
    @user-wd7yu2tp3u Жыл бұрын

    Great content, I really enjoyed this video

  • @leothelion2593
    @leothelion25932 жыл бұрын

    I’m hoping KD and Steph’s warriors is someone in here. That team, and how they fit together was unfair.

  • @deniskolkin6341

    @deniskolkin6341

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm guessing the 2017 team will be that went 16-1 in the playoffs. Then some combination of the 87 Lakers, 72 Lakers (unlikely), 83 76ers, 13 Heat and the best Spurs team

  • @sorrowfgc

    @sorrowfgc

    2 жыл бұрын

    the weird part is that that they almost lost to the 2018 Rockets, meaning they weren't actually unstoppable

  • @scottb3034

    @scottb3034

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@deniskolkin6341 i would say the 99 spurs that had duncan and robinson and lost 2 game in the playoffs. Also had steve kerr on it and key players elliott, avery johnson and clutch performer mario elie. maybe the 2007 team but they didn't dominate the playoffs or run a tougher gauntlet than 99.

  • @lx4half751

    @lx4half751

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sorrowfgc That's like saying the 1998 Bulls almost lost to the Pacers meaning they weren't actually unstoppable. Also nothing weird about it, the 2018 Rockets team might be one of the best to never win a chip.

  • @sorrowfgc

    @sorrowfgc

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lx4half751 Yeah but the Rockets most likely would have won. If you look at interviews, it seems like they really broke down the Warriors piece by piece. I feel like MJ and company were so confident they just forgot the Pacers were actually good lol

  • @tannergipson5322
    @tannergipson53222 жыл бұрын

    Making the case, more like, making a masterpiece

  • @jasonbaker3910
    @jasonbaker39102 жыл бұрын

    Such a godly vid. Youre a legend

  • @haydenthomson1789
    @haydenthomson17892 жыл бұрын

    The ending gives me chills every time I watch this video. Incredible job

  • @alexchen5445
    @alexchen54452 жыл бұрын

    >won more games than any champion team has Warriors catching strays

  • @taimurabid5135

    @taimurabid5135

    2 жыл бұрын

    As a warriors fan, this is hilarious

  • @ClaptonsWig

    @ClaptonsWig

    2 жыл бұрын

    Think choking a 3-1 lead is damn near the same feels as the 28-3 lead Atlanta had. Worst part is GS did it in multiple games rather than minutes

  • @CryptidFlame

    @CryptidFlame

    2 жыл бұрын

    Like they said, it dont mean a thing without the ring

  • @ip7101

    @ip7101

    2 жыл бұрын

    Combine both postseason and regular record the bulls still are on top.

  • @ryanatorryanson9535

    @ryanatorryanson9535

    2 жыл бұрын

    Don’t mean a thing without the ring.

  • @booce6969
    @booce69692 жыл бұрын

    It's crazy how a team in 96 had a 115 ortg

  • @razkable

    @razkable

    2 жыл бұрын

    the 96 and 97 bulls probably could beat the 2015 and 2016 warriors and 2019 warriors after kd went down...but the kd led warriors?..hell no...lets keep that a buck...that bulls team was limited on offense if mj did not go off...trust me...rodman can't shoot...kerr can't do much on ball and is a meh defender at best...harper had a on and off jumper and he was not a pure point or playmaker...pippen could not shoot fts or threes...longley was not taking threes and had a mediocre post game...toni could get cold and his defense was iffy...mj was not as athletic anymore...bill wennington randy brown and jud buechler john salley even james edwards for a minute a night are getting real time on the court for those teams and would be unplayable vs the kd led warriors imo...i mean in 97 they did have efficient hungry motivated bison dele and sweep stroke jason caffey instead of salley and washed bill which is why imo the 97 bulls are better then the 96 bulls...they just had more depth...the 97 bulls issue was rodman toni and longley got hurt missing many games and in the playoffs rodman and toni could not buy a bucket it felt like...in 96 they had a younger caffey they could not trust in the playoffs or outside of garbage time much unless he was with 4 starters...my thing is in 96 and 97 they had dickey simpkins but he was not on the roster for either playoffs sadly..he was useable i feel..but if we go by the 96 bulls, i feel after toni as a 6th man that bench is unplayable honestly vs the warriors...even kerr would get torched on defense in switches onto klay green kd or a center...he legit can only guard curry inside and klay outside..maybe green at times outside..

  • @SnAkEyEs9876

    @SnAkEyEs9876

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@razkable mj making life very hard for steph, harper clamping down on klay, KD getting stalked by pippen and green ain't getting anything against rodman.

  • @EJD339

    @EJD339

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SnAkEyEs9876 i would pay a lot of money to see that series for the 96 bulls and 19 warriors. I think it would be close. It’s definitely an interesting thought experiment.

  • @booce6969

    @booce6969

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can't put teams like this against modern teams, there was no zone back then and zone would kill pre 2010s teams

  • @scottb3034

    @scottb3034

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@razkable pippen can't shoot 3s or FTs? 37% from 3 isn't horrible. and his FTs improved in the 2nd threepeat from 67 to 77%. Let's keep it a buck, defense wins championships. the bulls have a much better defense than the warriors. they also had the size and versatility to play the warriors and smother them except maybe durant. the bulls would all be bigger to a man than anyone on the warriors (again except durant unless they tried to play kukoc on him for some reason) to affect their shot but they would also have speed. so they'd be taller but also as fast and 4 of the starters rated as + defenders. If you think the bulls would play longley you are mistaken. they'd play a starting 5 of Harper 6'6", Jordan 6'6", Pippen 6'8", Kukoc 6'11" and Rodman at center at 6'7". Or they'd play caffey in those minutes if they wanted to preserve some bench value with kukoc coming off it. phil jackson doesn't bash his head against a door if something clearly isn't or won't work, that's part of why he won 11 titles. Kukoc doesn't have to play much defense if they play him on draymond or whoever the center is when green isn't it. MJ was not athletic anymore? No he just chose to be a jump shooter more often in the 2nd threepeat because he was the best post up guard of the era and could school anyone with it; he still had speed, quickness, strength and leaping, just not as much as when he was younger. It's like saying Lebron James wasn't athletic anymore when he turned 33. The Bulls could play Kerr whenever it was presented to them, either when curry or klay were on the bench (believe it or not your guys wouldn't play 48 minutes every game). that's how they hid kerr when they played the jazz as stockton torched kerr when they played but kerr still got his time in and made contributions. beuchler is being severely underrated and randy brown is a +defender that could give curry fits whenever he opted to be anything but a shooter. it might take 6 or 7 but the bulls have enough offense and most importantly the defense to beat the warriors. especially given that the bulls can still generate offense by getting to the basket and collecting fouls on any of your big three. so they have more potential to force your guys to the bench but also more insulated from drought which jump shooting has a tendency to have against excellent D--like when the warriors shot like garbage during their choke in the finals.

  • @themaninblack8271
    @themaninblack82712 жыл бұрын

    This might be one of your beat work yet mate I applaud you, had goosebumps as your narrated the end of this.

  • @bransengulley5095
    @bransengulley50952 жыл бұрын

    Excited to watch this!

  • @morganwalsh2314
    @morganwalsh23142 жыл бұрын

    Don’t forget Rodman was a pro wrestler too

  • @cheeseburger12

    @cheeseburger12

    2 жыл бұрын

    ...eh...technically. but wrestling is fake so... and he did that once?

  • @camerenrandi
    @camerenrandi2 жыл бұрын

    Toni is a hall of famer now. So they had four hall of famers in there "primes"

  • @negrotaku6299
    @negrotaku62992 жыл бұрын

    New Making the Case vid? My morning has been made

  • @Samasamuel
    @Samasamuel2 жыл бұрын

    Been waiting for this. Hoping you post more often

  • @relaxstaycalm1906
    @relaxstaycalm19062 жыл бұрын

    Imagine 96 Bulls with Jordan, Pippen and Rodman were at their peak prime age!!!!!

  • @holypoop88
    @holypoop882 жыл бұрын

    The Bulls went 72-10 with their Big 3 missing over 20 totals games. The Warriors went 73-9 with their Big 3 missing only 3 total game. Let that sink in.

  • @dennishall6098

    @dennishall6098

    2 жыл бұрын

    73-9 Will never be fine with nothing to shine!

  • @jamalsag7812

    @jamalsag7812

    2 жыл бұрын

    For what?! Ain't nothing to sink. They ain't win shit. Stop bringing up NON CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS

  • @cn240studios5
    @cn240studios5 Жыл бұрын

    Very well done again sir, cheers.

  • @michaelmanning9028
    @michaelmanning90282 жыл бұрын

    👏 wow 👏 that was so good. First time viewer, now you have another subscriber

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