I really enjoy learning so much by watching your videos thoroughly and more than once. Thank you sir for all of your research and time.

Great and helpful cider Mark, I will definitely try this on both my revolver and rifle. Thanks for the tip!

Yep works great! Instead of wood dowel I took tree branches in my yard and snip them to size. I also made them 4 inches with the wood in the middle for 2 loads each.

Added to my list of things to try. Thanks for posting the video.

I made some of your quick loaders. Thanks for the tip I like using then a lot. I found some 5/16 rubbing at Ace works great for 36cal loaders.

I saved your video some time ago, and never got around to viewing. I wish I had as I think this is an outstanding idea on how to make up cartridges in advance. The traditional manner of the use of paper seems ripe with issues such as water damage, tearing, and so on. Clearly a plastic tube solves all of these issues as well as the age old problem of how long a preloaded cartridge will last given the problem of humidity. Now all we have to do is come up with something we can just slide into the cylinder.

I like it thanks for all your hard work.

Excellent. Will be making the duplex version. Many thanks.

I never heard of a duplex load before. But I like it. Thank you!!

Thanks for the video. I haven’t used my new J&D mold yet but am looking forward to it.

I have been making paper cartridges for my 1858 New Army and some time they are hard to get the paper/powder end in the cylinder. It will sometime puncture and some of the powder will mis going into the cylinder. I realy like your idea!!! Next time I go to the hardware store I am going to get me a roll of that 3/8" I.D. clear tubing and make me up some loaders! Seems a lot easyer once you go to shoot and want to take reloads with you!!!! GREAT IDEA AND GREAT VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Excellent video

Great idea I use one fired 357 magnum cases holds 25 grains bp rubber stopper on the ends, I load these into a hks 686 speed loader I can the load 6 chambers at a time works great with my Remington 1858 44.

I like this for hunting loads, looks real good.

Wow great helpful tips. Thanks.

These are pretty much home made dixie tubes, sweet!

Those remind me of the antler cartridge that people used to make homemade back then, it was something done more in the south, and they included some type of lube with it. It was also popular with Native Americans as an alternative for the paper cartridge.

@Goldo97

Жыл бұрын

Antler cartridge?

Great video. Especially if not wanting to carry the horn/flask and bullets separately. You could fill up your cartridge box with these quick loaders and a tin of lubed wads.

Nicely done Sir 👍🏻

Very useful!

Thanks what a good idea👍

What a good idea! How about plugging the center of a tube like you did with the duplex load but put the 20-some odd grains of powder and a projectile into each end? That way you could load two Chambers with one tube....less to carry around.

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

5 жыл бұрын

Rudy, good idea! There is no reason that shouldn't work.

@gregzeigler3850

5 жыл бұрын

@@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400 I would think a .380 round ball would seal that tubing just fine for a 51 Navy. .375 would be too small.

@martinlongbow3519

5 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. Carry 3 tubes per cylinder reload. 9 tubes can reload 3 times.

Great info

Cool. I'll try.

Watching "capandball", I noticed some 2ML centrifuge tubes in the background. They hold 30 grains of pyrodex filled to tip top. I fill up a 100 before going to the range. Balls and caps I handle normally.

I solved the problem, I bought 13 spare cylinders (for a total of 16) for my Pietta 1858 Remington revolvers. I can change them out way faster than reloading each cylinder.

@samiam619

5 жыл бұрын

gomezy3k 13 spares at what, $40 each? Quite an investment there, bud. Could have “filled your hand” with another pistol for that kind of money...

@leeknivek

5 жыл бұрын

@@samiam619 try $60

@duane7278

5 жыл бұрын

lol if you did you are actually a nut dude, props

@thomasgellos1732

5 жыл бұрын

@@leeknivek people have a strong tendency of exaggerating as if life is a fishing tale

@BlueTrane2028

5 жыл бұрын

One '58, three cylinders for me. Good enough, but I don't compete.

Good idea, you could use your duplex load to hold the cap in the filler section.

Done that back in the 80's

To speed up capping I use one inch lengths of 1/8 ID silicone tube with a cap pushed in flush on each end. Place one end on the nipple, squeeze the cap out, invert and repeat.

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

6 жыл бұрын

Indeed, that is a good trick too. I had hoped to spend another few minutes on that subject in this video, but time did not permit. Maybe another video later. I have found that the caps n tubes set up does not work on all revolvers due to space constraints. I have trouble getting them on my Dragoon and Walker. Thanks!

@85waspnest

5 жыл бұрын

@@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400 Update - I've discovered the heel of your .36 Colt Cartridge works conical bullets fit perfectly inside the neck of plastic cone shaped 1.5 cc vials which equates to approx. 24 grains of powder. It's the same idea as your tubes only they're ready to use. The flip top can be cut off if required. I'm still using the soft silicone tubing cap speed loaders which I wouldn't be without, especially in cold weather. Regards, Dennis in the UK. :-)

@MEHubbs

5 жыл бұрын

Dennis, thanks for that tip. I will check into US vendors for those vials.

@85waspnest

5 жыл бұрын

@@MEHubbs I bought mine on Ebay. If it helps your search, they're made of clear plastic, the upper half is parallel sided, the lower half tapers to a rounded point and graduated up to 1.5 cc. I believe larger capacities are available so you might find some suitable for .44.

I like it thanks.

Genious!

This simple idea can be greatly improved with wooden plug made a bit longer, sticking out of the tube, and the bullet plugged in with base up/outside. The way it works: -pull out the wooden plug with your teeth -drop the powder into the chamber -rotate the tube and push the bullet out with your fingers directly to the chamber -ram the bullet Also, check my Colt Navy 1851 DIY cap speedloader at kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZImg1dWRobOveJM.html

@Marcus-xl9kr

5 ай бұрын

Just watched your video! Awesome idea! Have you ever had one of those primers get pushed farther into the tube?

@agzaimbartholomei3697

5 ай бұрын

@@Marcus-xl9kr nope, never

Nice. Thanks for sharing.

I think I will experiment with this for .50 round ball in a rifle. should be big enough tube around somewhere

Hi, I'm a new subscriber. Greetings from italy _Andrea_

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Andrea! Welcome!

HEADS UP - TO STRAIGHTEN THE VINYL TUBING. 10' of vinyl tubing in the typical coil IS TO KINKY. SO: Removed wire ties and put in the clothes dryer checking about every minute for 4-5 minutes until the coil had loosened to about 1/2 the diameter if the dryer. Removing it by hand it was hot but tolerable. It felt thicker but I just laid it against the wall in my long hallway. Next day it was back to correct size and very straight yet flexible.

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, excellent information!

I put my powder in plastic straws . Melt one end closed and put in the powder then fold the other end 2 times.

Can you please provide the link for the music you use on your videos I really like it .

I use grits also, being a Southern Boy, never know when you might need a snack at the range. Could you just pour in the filler, then the powder on top of that so once the bullet is removed the powder goes in first then the filler, sure there will be some mixing of the two. Other wise I would think the bullet should go on the filler side so you don't have to keep track of it as long.

@jasonbarrett320

4 ай бұрын

If you use filler make the tube double sided with the wood piece in the middle and a removable wood plug on the powder side and bullet over the filler, pull the plug, dump the powder, flip it and pull the ball, dump the filler in and seat the ball, good to go….

Will grease/lube in the bullet groves make a difference??

Put your vinyl tube into boiling water then stretch it straight and hold straight until cool and you will have nice straight tubing ....I would think you could press the dowel down into a double length and put the bullet/ball on both ends giving to loads in each.... now I know why peeps are putting filler

One suggestion: If your going to store rounds long term moisture ingress through the plug might become an issue. So varnishing the end of the plug might be advisable.

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

5 жыл бұрын

That definitely would ensure long term storage. But I have to say, I have shot some of these that were stored for over two years and the powder flowed as well as new ones with the plug simply glued in with no varnish.

@joelseymour6372

2 жыл бұрын

While you are glueing the plug in, drop a drop of glue on the end of the plug to seal the plug.

Well while I appreciate anybody's attempt at ingenuity, like someone has previously stated when it just be easier to buy extra cylinders and have them pre-loaded, that's what I do. I haven't mastered it yet but I've seen a guy who made preloads out of cigarette paper then all we had to do was drop that in the cylinder press the ball and cap it.

Very helpful info Mark. Keep up the good work. I have some .50 caliber 360gr Minie bullets, would you happen to know what powder charge is recommended for those?? I have used as low as 60grs up to 120grs in my CVA Buckhorn Magnum inline.

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

6 жыл бұрын

Jim, if they are a true hollow base Minnie Ball use a lighter charge. Are you sure they are a Minnie bullet and not a solid base Maxie Ball or R.E.A.L? I'd say no more than 60 grains for a true Minnie bullet. Also check the twist rate on your inline. Modern muzzle loaders typically have a very fast rifling twist. Minnie Balls like a slow twist, about 1-66 or slower. If what you have is actually a solid base bullet that engraves on the rifling during loading, then you want a faster twist and I think you are good up to around 120 grains. You need to work up a load with the bullet of your choice to see which gives you the best grouping. Good Luck!

@jimsmirh2406

6 жыл бұрын

Mark Hubbs They are a hollow base and my muzzle loader is a 1:28 twist. I also do have the REAL bullets in 250gr & 320gr as well. Thanks for the info for these.

You know if you put a plastic screen on the end of the powder side it litterly is a cased round at that point and then use the primer speed loader and it will reload almost like a 45 colt

They are hilariously phallic shaped

Thanks for an interesting video. I guess you don't use the wads at all?

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

6 жыл бұрын

I use lubricated wads for some loads, some I apply grease over the bullet. Unfortunately, neither of those methods can be put inside the quick loader.

If i was to buy a .44 cal bullet loop belt, do you think that thos would fit in the loops? And could a premade paper load fit in them? So I could have multiple rounds ready and water tight? Awesome video..

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

5 жыл бұрын

Dan, I dont think these would work well in loops. I suspect the extra handling might jar the bullet loose and dump the powder. These would be better carried in a pocket or shoulder bag if you are going into the field. For the range, I just keep them in a baggy.

Using a Dowel to seal both ends, could a 36 caliber BALL OR CONICAL be dropped in on top of the powder. Or maybe use a dry felt Wad on a string to separate powder from bullet?

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure any combination would work for your specific needs.

Only slightly related question.. Where can one buy those bullet molds? I would love to shoot conicals in my Remington new army, but most that I have seen require loading off the gun or modification of the revolver.

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

4 жыл бұрын

John, check out my line of historically based revolver and carbine bullet molds at www.erasgonebullets.com. Thanks!

@BlackPowderGeek

4 жыл бұрын

@@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400 Will do and thanks.

does the filler not prevent chain fires as well?

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

4 жыл бұрын

The trick to preventing chain fires is a tight bullet. Swaging an over sized lead bullet into the chamber during loading is what creates a gas seal. Thanks

What was the filler used in the duplex loads?

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

4 жыл бұрын

I used dry grits. Others use corn meal or cream of wheat

So in the end where you show the loading procedure, you are not using a wad between the powder and the bullet. Does this cause fouling issues? Also, I assume after following this procedure you would put lube over each cylinder? I am asking because I am new to black powder pistols and trying to do it correctly. Thank you for your time and your videos.

@markhubbs1964

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I would probably add lube over the bullet when using this set up.

@jakemoore954

7 ай бұрын

I was curious if he was doing prelubed wad powder bullet i dont have one but am interested and watchig videos learning what would be the process for that

@jakemoore954

7 ай бұрын

Could use duplex method and carry wad or caps in that section...

The more you compress the black powder the slower and uniform ignition will happen.

Mark, with the duplex load, is there any need for a barrier (wax paper, cartridge paper) between the powder and filler if there will be some time between loading and shooting? I am thinking instead of loading and shooting at the range, loading and carrying in the woods.

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

5 жыл бұрын

Douglas, I think the wooden spacer push up into the tube to separate the powder and filler should be sufficient. No paper or sealer should be needed. Thanks

@douglasmaccullagh1267

5 жыл бұрын

I was thinking about after the charge and filler are pressed into the chamber. I assume the powder and filler have different density, different grain size. With vibration from walking in the woods, is there any chance of powder migrating into filler, or filler migrating into powder, enough to effect the load?

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

5 жыл бұрын

Douglas, sorry I misunderstood. I think with a compressed load you should not have any trouble with the powder mixing with the filter. However a thin non-lubricated wad between them Would not hurt

Mark I suspect Yankees never have eaten Grits (AKA Georgia ice cream). Good idea I will try it. What size tube and dowel would you suggest for the .36 Colt bullet? Thanks for a good idea.

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

4 жыл бұрын

Bunk, unfortunately there is not a tubing that I have found that is the right size for .36 :(

@jason60chev

Жыл бұрын

@@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400 If you Google for the correct ID needed, you might find a specialty supply company that carries it.

I can change 1851 cylinders faster than I can load with paper or flask.

I think it is more simple to just use Eppendorfs. :-)

Hey Mark......did you put any teeth marks on that bullet?

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

Жыл бұрын

Not that you could see. hard to film one handed!

Why would a competition care if you use paper cartridges?

I don’t see the big issue of loading from the flask. Like they did back in the day. It is not hard or time consuming. It is called practice

@Kcrunchymunch

2 жыл бұрын

The public range does not allow loading from a flask. Only preloaded individual containers.

@MrSanteeclaus

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kcrunchymunch never heard of such non sense

@Kcrunchymunch

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrSanteeclaus I copy paste the rules for Black powder for you. It's the last rule. San Leandro Rifle & Pistol Range SAFETY POLICIES & FAQ SAN LEANDRO RIFLE AND PISTOL RANGE SAFETY POLICIES The following Policies are ALWAYS in effect at the range: 1. Safe direction o Always keep the gun (muzzle) pointed downrange or in a safe direction. o Firing or pointing a loaded gun in any direction (floor, ceiling, etc.) other than directly at an approved target (bulls-eye, silhouette, or cartoon drawings only. No photographs) are grounds for immediate removal from the range, revocation of range privileges, and liability for damage. 2. Finger off the trigger o Keep your finger off the trigger (out of the trigger guard) until your sights are on your target and you are ready to fire. 3. Action open o All actions must be open when the firearm is not being fired unless the firearm is cased. 4. Understanding o Shooters must understand range commands issued in English or have an interpreter with them at all times while in the shooting area. 5. New shooters o People who have never fired a rifle or pistol (or persons unfamiliar with firearms they intend to discharge) must be accompanied by and coached by an experienced shooter or instructor. 6. Handling of firearms o Casing and uncasing of firearms must be done at shooting stations. o Firearm loading and unloading must be performed on the firing line only with the firearm pointed down range. Do not load/reload firearms anywhere behind the firing line. o There will be no handling of firearms behind the firing line, during a cease fire, or when anyone is down range. o Loaded firearms are not to be left unattended. o If you have more than one shooter and only one gun, leave the gun at the station and change shooters. Do not pass the gun from one station to another. 7. Eye and ear protection is required by all shooters as well as spectators within the vicinity of shooting activities. Ear protection may be removed during a cease fire. 8. Uncontrolled shooting o Rapid fire is not allowed. One shot every two seconds, maximum. o Cross-firing or diagonal shooting is not allowed. 9. Shotguns o Only shotguns firing 2 3/4 inch non-magnum lead slugs and equipped with a full shoulder stock are allowed. No exceptions. 10. Holsters are not allowed o Exceptions: civilian law enforcement & steel shoot. 11. Ammunition not allowed o Tracer ammo o FMJ, STEEL-CORE, and Magnetic o All Pistol ammunition over 454 Casull. (454 Must be lead only) o .50 caliber or above except for Black powder firearms o Magnums other than .22 on inside range 12. No live ammo or miss-fired ammo is to be placed in the trash cans. 13. Disruptive behavior o Anyone participating in horseplay or language that is considered to be loud, abusive, or profane will be asked to leave the premises. 14. Alcohol or illegal drugs are prohibited at the range. Persons believed to be under the influence of alcohol or drugs will be refused use of the range. 15. Children anywhere on the property must be supervised by an adult and wear hearing protection in the vicinity of shooting activities. 16. Smoking is prohibited indoors and on the outdoor firing line. 17. Dogs (other than service dogs) are not allowed outside of vehicles on range property. 18. Black Powder o May not be stored on range property. o May not be carried into the building. o Containers must be sealed on the firing line. o Smoking is prohibited within 15 feet of a black powder shooter on the firing line. o Black powder firearm must be charged from a separate measure, not directly from a flask or powder horn.

@MrSanteeclaus

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kcrunchymunch you need to find a real gun range then. Paper shells are dangerous as flask loading

The real way to make a quick reload with a Cap and Ball revolver is to just swap the spent cylinder out with another one that's pre-loaded. Carry as many extra cylinders as you feel necessary.

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

5 жыл бұрын

Assuming one wants to invest in a bunch extra cylinders.

@docholiday1806

3 жыл бұрын

Pain in the butt

@jason60chev

Жыл бұрын

You might also need to have each cylinder worked to function in the gun. You also really don;t want to be carrying around loaded and capped cylinders......if just going to the range.

All these comments about the guy pulling the round out of the tube with his teeth... OK Karen...

Interesting !?

"Ach du lieber, mein schatz"! Very nice video & fine idea. Can't help but wonder though, is there any danger with static electricity setting off the powder charge? Obviously one won't want to rub the loaded tube on your clothes & give my "wonderment" a test!! I use a sized piece of plastic tubing around my caps to keep the spent cap from tying up my revolver. Works fine, but you'll have to pry the spent cap off the nipple rather than just "flinging" if off. But there is usually more than one way to "skin the cat" if you look hard enough! "Gifs goot feelingk" as the ol' German used to say!!!

@chemistryofquestionablequa6252

5 жыл бұрын

Any spark would jump from the outside of the tube to another object, not inside the tube, it's super unlikely that you would get a spark with that kind of tubing anyway. They use the same stuff medically for pure oxygen which could cause a full-on disaster if there were a spark, so you'll be safe using it like this.

I like the Idea . Not to sure about bitting and holding the lead bullet with your teeth though . I think I will pass on that part .

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

5 жыл бұрын

I haven't swallowed on yet :)

@duane7278

5 жыл бұрын

@@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400 it getting on your teeth will cause some to be ingested, this can kill you or cause brain damage.

Why filler?

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

3 жыл бұрын

Some competiton shooters use filler to fill extra space in the chamber to keep the bullet up close to the chamber mouth.

Mark I am afraid some of them poor Yankee boys do not know what grits (AKA Georgia ice Cream) is. Having lived in Alabama and North Carolina, and being a Texan, I am a grits eater.

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

4 жыл бұрын

I had some British friends visit one time. I told them I would make them a traditional Southern breakfast. After I listed the menu, they apprehensively asked, "will we be required to eat more than one grit?"

@wbriggs111

3 жыл бұрын

What kind of grits are better, Regular or the instant ones?

Why aren't paper cartridges OK for N-SSA?

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

5 жыл бұрын

I suspect because of fire hazards down range. They allow no paper to go down range with the bullet. Paper cartridges for rifle muskets are also not allowed.

@wdtaut5650

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@assaultspoon4925

5 жыл бұрын

@@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400 I guess I could see the problem with a hundred musketeers shooting burning paper onto a grassy field.

@samiam619

5 жыл бұрын

Assault Spoon It started some forest fires in at least a couple CW battles!

Phallus loads

CAS doesn’t allow paper carts? No wonder I’ve never participated. They’d have kicked me out anyway!

Great idea but I like the paper cartridge better.

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

6 жыл бұрын

In most cases I do too. That is the mystique of shooting historical firearms, using the historically correct ammo for the gun in question. But, sometimes that is not practical for the type of shooting you are doing. The good thing about a quick load, home made or not, is that I can have a precisely pre-measured or pre-weighed charge ready to pour. No fumbling with flasks or measures on the range.

@knowsbetter1

6 жыл бұрын

Mark Hubbs The way I load the paper cartridges is on the round loader I made that holds 16 to 18 rounds. I seen it made by a Frenchman, I'm sure you have seen the same video. This method is simple to make and is worth the time so I can load many rounds and they store very well. Btw. I really appreciate all your videos. They are quality made. Thanks. As Robert E. Lee would sign his letters. " Forever your humble servant " Chris.

@assaultspoon4925

5 жыл бұрын

Lmao, I'm in no hurry. I'll just load by hand. Didn't really get a cap and ball for practicallity in a firefight

That is not a duplex load. A duplex load is black powder and smokeless powder mixed

Please don't put the lead in your mouth it's very harmful to your health. I'm telling you this because I care about you and your health.and I really enjoyed your video and I'm going to try your method of useing the tube for holding powder and bullet and maybe a cardboard over powder card made of thick poster board. I just glue three layers of poster board together and press it in on my powder charge and then filler and then my conical bullet and then grease the hole over the conical bullet's. Oh and I use bee's wax on my lube grooves of my bullets and it works really great. And I always weigh my powder because it makes way truer shoots than useing by volume loads . I normally use paper cartridges that's has potassium nitrate on them and the end of my paper cartridge I have red phosphorus mixed with a small amount of cap gun powder with 90 percent alcohol in a small lid that I just put the very end of my paper cartridge on a dowel rod and I then put the dowel rod in a hole in a peice of wood with 24 holes for 24 dowels and paper cartridge's. And let them dry for a day or so. The red phosphorus mixed with cap gun powder gives a really good ignition and I have never had a miss fire or dud . And in my wooden cartridge holder it's has a piece of waxed paper and the sides of the holes in the paper cartridge holes to keep friction down on my paper cartridge's in my box . The type ends of my paper cartridge's are almost like strike anywhere match's but not quite as sensitive but ignition is really good on my cartridges.

Your exactness in explanation and word use speaks highly and lends insight to your inquiring educational depth. So often we see the misuse and interchangeability of mold and mould. Mold, as you use, is the correct American spelling and mould is Britain spelling according to Webster. Another example, just as American horses run counter clockwise on a race track, Britain's horses run clockwise. Seems the revolution is still fought in customs and word usage that creates confusion. This leads to a wondering of why Lee uses the spelling mould? I know this is irrelevant and distracts from your fascinating information. However, suspect you exactly know the answer,

@erasgonehistoricalmolds2400

5 жыл бұрын

Larry, thanks for your kind words. I admit that I have been a bit tainted by things British. I earned my Masters in Archaeologyy from the Universityy of Leicester in Great Britain. I suspect they have wore off on me to a degree.

@larrywilley3697

5 жыл бұрын

Your historical accuracy is a trade mark that is gift to all. Your foundation and life endeavor explains how this evolved. Thanks

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Do this with paper

I love this channel but holding a piece of lead with your mouth is an abysmal idea. For anyone interested in these type loaders, check out Blackie Thomas video about “Dixie Tubes” which are just relabeled rubber pipe end caps, but they work great as quick loaders. No lead toxicity required.

Yummy lead

How about adopting a modern firearm?

Advocating the idea of putting lead in your mouth is not a good thing to be doing. Regularly handling lead is a cause for concern, let alone putting it in places where it can be easily ingested/absorbed. We live in an era where ignorance is not an excuse.

@randycombs112

4 жыл бұрын

Us kids use to put .177 cal pellets in our mouths while out shooting in the 70s. No harm done. No harm done. No harm done. Wait. I said that more than once. Losing my mind. 😆

My my my? Thank God our forefathers didn’t have to watch this. They experienced serious lead poison. What has happened to this country since then. The new laws about abortion should extend to any mommies boy before the age of forty.

@normanmcneal3605

5 жыл бұрын

X S Modern men always “ duplicate” what our fore fathers went through. Always, it requires going to the hardware store or WorldMart. That was my point.

@musictube3780

5 жыл бұрын

@@normanmcneal3605 leave