Making barrel rifling using steel tubes
Making barrel rifling using steel tubes
In this video I will show barrel rifling for a 5.5mm, or .22 cal tube using an allen key. the same allen key method can be used for other calibers too, just make sure that the rifling button is 0.1mm-0.2mm bigger in diameter than the barrel inner (bore) diameter. In my case I used a 5.62mm button for a 5.48mm tube, and it worked quite well as you can see in the video. This barrel will be used for gas propelled PCPs.
Note: This video is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Do not emulate or copy anything you see in this video.
Allen keys: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dns...
12mm OD tube (ID: 5.5mm, 4.5mm, 6mm, 9mm): s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DEn...
16mm OD tube (more options +7.62, 6.35, etc): s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dlo...
LATHE used in the video:
MINI Lathe 7x16 800W (Europe and USA link): s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DlY...
Asia link: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dlt...
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Nice video and very educative. But an urgent message from my side: NEVER WEAR GLOVES WHEN WORKING ON A LATHE ! The chance that your glove will be caught by a rotating workpiece is significant. You can imagine what this does to your fingers... or even worse. In my career as a technician I once witnessed a young guy who was found death on a lathe. It was a horrible experience. He was working alone in a shop. He wore gloves while working on the lath, he was sanding/polishing a rotating piece of tubing in the lath. The rotating tube caught his glove, then his sleeve and then his work jacked. The poor boy was strangled to death. The lath blocked while the motor kept running, the V belt started to heat up and caused a lot of smoke that came out from under the door. People in the area noticed this and so they went inside the shop and found the poor guy. Even now I get goosebumps when I think about it.
I made a sine bar machine which allows me to make different twist rates but a lot of work...this method you come up with is perfect for people with minimal tooling excellent idea mate well done
@pcpairgunschannel
Ай бұрын
Sounds great! Yes, this works really well and can be made with just an angle grinder, torch and some very basic tools. The end result looked better than I expected, very clean grooves.
@arpadlimanagy7018
18 күн бұрын
Cano calibre 22LR ou 3,57 Magnum?
one of the best rifling jobs ive seen
@pcpairgunschannel
Ай бұрын
thank you! I hope it will shoot as good as it looks
Wow, you are a genius
Very innovative. Looking forward to use it in Pcp. 😀
That's really good rifling bro!
@pcpairgunschannel
Ай бұрын
Thanks! Let's see the results.
@greggorio6259
Ай бұрын
@airsight Idol. pariho kayong magaling gumawa ng airgun. Idol ko kayong dalawa.😊
man, you are the true hero!
@pcpairgunschannel
Ай бұрын
👍😎👍
tanks for the video super cool job !!
@pcpairgunschannel
Ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
Excellent idea, thank you for sharing! : )
@pcpairgunschannel
21 күн бұрын
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I love this. Thanks for sharing. All the people complaining probably can’t even hammer a nail to hang a picture on the wall
To make the button, you can use a drill bit as well, it's usually made of well suited HSS steel and you just have to drive it trough the barrel twice to get the necessary grooves.
@pcpairgunschannel
20 күн бұрын
Yep, there are many more methods I plan trying
Ohh no now I need to buy that lathe oh no the mrs is gonna be fuming 😂 Also nicely done.
@pcpairgunschannel
18 сағат бұрын
Thanks! You can use an angle grinder, no need for a lathe :)
Ok brother i am waiting next part for test👍
😮woww its great work again idol.
Excelente amigo, esperamos las pruebas, nosotros podemos construir nuestras propias herramientas, ya que el button rifling se puso escaso, y costoso, hice uno de una broca de acero rapido
hasil kerja yang baik,selepas ni tolong buat cetakan peluru..
Bravo ci voglio provare anch'io 💪💪🙋
I would have made the rifling cutter bit longer to prevent any possibility of wedging sideways into the tunnel. While highly unlikely, you are using impacts to drive the bit through and just a little bit of torsional momentum could theoretically cause one blade edge to really dig in and ruin your barrel. I forget the length to width ratio of what you need but it's not a lot longer than what you have. Just a thought. I think it's great even as is.
@pcpairgunschannel
14 күн бұрын
@@TheDamnSpot 👍 This was my first time rifling a barrel, and I will still try many other methods
Buen desarrollo en el estriado de su cañón al menos una idea que muchas personas desconoce lo que sin trucos falta probar la precisión ahí es donde en realidad se obtiene el resultado de su trabajo 😊😊😊😊😊
the width of the rifling should be greater than the width of the fields or the same, such a barrel will greatly spoil lead bullets, which means that the accuracy will be poor. I used to make a button on a lathe using a knurling with a straight tooth and a pitch of 1.2 mm, which was equal to 12 threads of 5.5 mm.
@boomstick4054
17 күн бұрын
I was thinking you could start with a larger Allen wrench for the steel stock. Machine it to the standards you mentioned, for equal & flat lands & grooves, then heat & twist.
This is a good result, I have tried it 🇮🇩🇮🇩
@pcpairgunschannel
24 күн бұрын
@@DewaSenapanIndonesia 👍👍
Awesome guessing the steel tube and bars came from Alli express.. super tek brake cleaner spray cleans out oils super quick
Nice👍👍
Молодец! Я делаю кнопку из шарикоподшипника,потом на токарнике с помощью болгарки прорезаю нарезки.И да,лучше всего проталкивать получается мощной дрелью-перфоратором.Плюс смазка машинная не годится-лучше использовать олеиновую кислоту с литол-24.Удачи в хобби!
@pcpairgunschannel
29 күн бұрын
Спасибо! Очень интересно 😮
@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367
23 күн бұрын
Yep Hammer drill. Or an Air tool
@faq_is_love
22 күн бұрын
Проталкивать лучше гидравлическим прессом.
@faq_is_love
22 күн бұрын
@@pcpairgunschannel И да, на али и правда можно купить дорны для нарезей. Я раньше искал по запросу "rfling button" и ничего не находил, но по запросу "helical push drill" они вполне находятся.
@sanchezic
22 күн бұрын
@@andrsivohin8167 Круто. Я тоже на токарнике кнопку делаю и на нём сразу накаткой делаю канавки, накатка прямозубая с небольшим уклоном и шагом от 1 до 1,5мм в зависимости сколько нужно нарезов. Смазка на основе серы, талька и коллоидного графита и желательно канал обрабатывать тиосульфатом, как то так.
Excelente trabajo de la estria del cañón creo que ahora le haces la recámara para el casquillo o bala y el percutor
Monitor my friend 👍 from Indonesia 💯👌
Awesome stuff! One question, should it have a chamfer where the projectile leaves the barrel? I've never tried to make something of this sort, but was taught not to ruin the sharp edge on the end of the barrel of my 6.5x55 mm rifle.
@pcpairgunschannel
Ай бұрын
Yes, it should be chamfered. It's called "barrel crowning", in the video I did that with high grit sandpaper and an 8mm steel ball, after chamfering the end with a drill bit. That might not sound very precise, but it actually leaves a very fine finish. Some rifle barrels might have different designs, others may have sharp precise non-chamfered ends while others have a deep chamfer. Search "barrel crowning" on Google and check the images, you'll see many different designs. Also, in my case this will not be used for a firearm, but for a PCP air gun.
@SchweinungHD
Ай бұрын
@@pcpairgunschannel ah, I see, cool! Awesome to learn new things!
La idea es lo que hace evolucionar el ser humano, y que no se acostumbre a depender de lo que esta hecho sino a elaborar sus propias herramientas..Si las ideas no se hacen no sirven. Mi padre me lo decia..
@pcpairgunschannel
21 күн бұрын
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Really amazing. But why do you beat and knock over it after heating it?
@pcpairgunschannel
28 күн бұрын
because it was only 5.55mm in diameter, that's not enough for rifling. I increased the diameter by doing that, it ended up being 5.62mm
@ameenattef469
28 күн бұрын
@@pcpairgunschannel 😁😁😁Great, I thought that was likely, but I wanted to make sure.....but did you know why I wanted an Arabic translation? So that I can understand and follow what you are saying. Greetings
so quality air gun with mechanism,only change barrel and have 22LR?Am i right?Can you give advice of some good cheap air gun?Thanx
Would it not be better to start with a 6 mm Allen wrench and grind it down to what you want ?
@pcpairgunschannel
Ай бұрын
That would work and I did try it but I didn't achieve as good precision with it. It's about skill so if you can manage to do it and keep the sides consistent in size then you can do it.
Im eager to see the results.
@pcpairgunschannel
Ай бұрын
will use this for a PCP pistol. Stay tuned!
I love it...can i have one for my pcp
@pcpairgunschannel
6 күн бұрын
Sorry, I cannot ship it
Where did you get the steel tube? Great video
@pcpairgunschannel
24 күн бұрын
@@CarpinteroJesus Hi, there is a link in the description if you want to buy
That was very impressive hope it tests well I have always been impressed with what a machinist can build I wish I had you skills if you lived near me in Louisiana USA I would enjoy being a friend to learn things the laws here are very favorable for hunters and sportsman but demoncracts are working hard to take that away I wish you well and if you ever want to move look this way hats off to you 👍
Gracias por la idea la pondre en practica elabora uno para .38 o enviame las medidas .
@pcpairgunschannel
21 күн бұрын
¡Excelente! También puedes usar un escariador para hacer las ranuras, si lo giras de la misma manera. Sólo una herramienta de corte que sea al menos 0,1-0,2 mm más grande que el diámetro interior del cañón. ¿de dónde eres? Lo siento, no hablo español. enlace: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DDVqDYf
Gunakan steel wool bro,agar lebih bersih
@pcpairgunschannel
Ай бұрын
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How Dana says:"Its ******* unlegal...😂
Dont grind on the side of your wheel like that, its not designed for it and the wheel can explode after a while ...
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Hey sir, how do I even make a barrel if it's so specific for 7.62mm?
@pcpairgunschannel
Ай бұрын
@@arielsgood4972 you can buy precision tubes
Amigo esta llave allen en realidad se deja templar para hacer el estriado ?
@pcpairgunschannel
18 күн бұрын
¿Cómo lo usarías para moletear? Lo siento no habla español
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Debio poner un paño o una madera para que las limaduras no caigan sobre las guias del torno ya que pueden perjudicarlas😮
@pcpairgunschannel
28 күн бұрын
Es cierto que mientras lijaba debería haberlo hecho.
Sir is long valve better than short valve?
@pcpairgunschannel
Ай бұрын
No difference, they are just different designs.
Is it necessary the water to contain salt for the heat treatment to get the steel hardened?
@pcpairgunschannel
20 күн бұрын
If its not hardened the button will deform and not cut so well. You can also dip it in oil but you need to temper it so its not too brittle
@Mazarakis_Spyridon
19 күн бұрын
@@pcpairgunschannel I asked you, if the water for the heat treatment is necessary to be salt water. Is it?
@pcpairgunschannel
19 күн бұрын
@@Mazarakis_Spyridon Yes, it won't work with just water.
@Mazarakis_Spyridon
19 күн бұрын
@@pcpairgunschannel Thank you!
I'd use a skrew bit, little harder
Nice video. Why do you put salt in your quenching water?
@pcpairgunschannel
13 күн бұрын
@@LuluBear974 cools down the Steel faster, making it harder Oil also works
@LuluBear974
13 күн бұрын
@pcpairgunschannel At sea level plain pure water boil at 100°C and works just fine. This is why I don't understand the salt part. At sea level, saturated sodium chlorine brine has a boiling point of 108.7°C, and contains 28.41% NaCl... that isn't a big difference enough to justify salt use. Moreover oil also works even though it boils between 200 and 300°C and the higher the quenching temperature the lesser the hardening but still is ok. Do you put your brine in the freezer or use ice cubes to lower brine temperature below 0°C ?
@pcpairgunschannel
13 күн бұрын
@@LuluBear974 you are right that pure water works too. However its not about the boiling point only but also the thermal conductivity and the density. Salt water is denser and has better thermal conductivity
@LuluBear974
13 күн бұрын
@@pcpairgunschannel 👍
Good iob but the pitch seems too short.
Top 10
What twist you made in that barrel ?
@pcpairgunschannel
Күн бұрын
@@user-ld6te5zr7i it’s just eyeballed, no accurate maths. It still gave good accuracy, check my latest shorts video
Чистота поверхности плохая. Взял бы покупной китайский дорн.
The most detailed video I've actually seen on this method to date and I've watched a few of them, keep up your good work my friend.
@pcpairgunschannel
22 күн бұрын
Thank you!! 👍
جميل جدا من اى اتجاه ندخل الرصاصه من اتجاه اداخل اداة العمل ام من مكان خروجها
@pcpairgunschannel
Ай бұрын
شكرًا لا يهم من أي اتجاه تدخل الرصاصة، ما يهم هو أن يكون طرفي البرميل أملس، حتى لا تتضرر الرصاصة من أي جانب.
I really can't understand how it can twist on its own without having something attached that turns it, and in the end you bang it in, and I don't understand, even though it is SLIGHTLY twisted, how you can make the barrel rifled just by banging it in, it doesn't make sense for myself
@pcpairgunschannel
19 күн бұрын
The twist of the button forces it to twist around
@MrRick693
16 күн бұрын
It's the same as a screw into wood
i queda un estriado bien preciso
Isn't the button supposed to be sharp to cut the rifling?
@pcpairgunschannel
20 күн бұрын
No metal cutting tool needs to be sharp like a kitchen knife, rifling buttons dont need sharp edges
Rifling lands too wide
How many long pcp gun berral ?❤❤❤
@pcpairgunschannel
Ай бұрын
this is 300mm long, but you can use 200mm, 400mm, 500mm, 700mm... anything you want. this will be used for a PCP pistol.
@sonakhuraijam7223
Ай бұрын
@@pcpairgunschannel thanku....how can I buying this pcp gun barrel..I want to this barrel..Plzz help me...
@pcpairgunschannel
Ай бұрын
@@sonakhuraijam7223 Due to courier policy i can't deliver my own products. You can make it the same way as I did it in the video, you can buy blank tube and rifle it yourself like I did it in this video. If AliExpress doesn't work you can buy it from ebay also, just search "hydraulic steel pipe"
Complimenti.
Pefect I have doone almoust the same way, but you do better.magnifecent.Kranj Europe.
@pcpairgunschannel
20 күн бұрын
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Making rifle barrels using tube steels (:
@pcpairgunschannel
Ай бұрын
so what do you think of this rifling technique?
what heat treatment should the barrel have when using a 1000 Joules mounting cartridge 27cal?
@pcpairgunschannel
22 күн бұрын
@@user-ph2lk2rs9e Sorry I dont have experience with gun barrels, this is for a PCP air gun
@katarinaespwall8542
Күн бұрын
You could probably Google that,as you well know.give the kid a break😂😂😂
Neato!
Faça uma câmara e uma coroa
@pcpairgunschannel
Ай бұрын
Isto é para uma pistola PCP. Vídeos em breve
Where is the follow up accuracy vid??
@pcpairgunschannel
14 күн бұрын
@@RonBateman-vl2wz coming. I am yet to build a PCP pistol
Steel tube what product
@pcpairgunschannel
3 күн бұрын
I put a link in the description
Cuidado al trabajar en el torno con esos guantes amigo....si llega a agarrar su mano ?😢
@pcpairgunschannel
20 күн бұрын
Tienes razón, ya no uso guantes mientras manejo un torno.
Шаг нарезов? ХЗ, он есть
@pcpairgunschannel
7 күн бұрын
5.62mm - 5.48mm, 0.14mm
I admire your work, but a rifling button is just about 12$ ishhh so it's not practical to waste your time make all those fuzz? Furthermore you are not even sure how accurate the results would be? If it fails, you wasted time plus the tube you ruined. So why not buy the real thing?? It cost just less than 20 bucks
@pcpairgunschannel
Ай бұрын
@@mrkalikutista8729 I would need more than just a rifling button. Commercial rifling buttons cannot be hammered and need tons of pressure, which will end up costing me a lot more than just 12$
@mrkalikutista8729
Ай бұрын
@@pcpairgunschannel you're wrong you can do the same hammering with the cheap commercial one. Or use a bottle type car jack to push the rod instead of hammering it. Google hammer button, it's a good button, im using that one, stay away from those cheap chinese craps.
@gengiscu
25 күн бұрын
your mind is so limited
@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367
23 күн бұрын
@pcpairgunschanneive hammered commercial buttons on ebay.. l
@RodrigoFernandez-td9uk
22 күн бұрын
@@mrkalikutista8729 - Fun. You can also buy the stuff already finished. - Unavailability due to local regulations.
это мусор а не протяжка!
精度怎么样
@pcpairgunschannel
Ай бұрын
我将在几周内用这个枪管制作一把手枪。然后我会上传一段测试准确性的视频。
@user-yz3bc9ok9l
Ай бұрын
@@pcpairgunschannel 非常期待
ທມຶມທຶມທມ
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Wearing gloves while operating a lathe? Bruh....
dont use gloves with a grinder or lathe google hand de-glove work safe. gloves drage the fingers in and rip them off - no glove you go och thats hot and a cut
А не фэйк ли это. Нарезка обычно делается на спец приспособлении, здесь же я не видел ничего, что контролирует правильность нарезки канавок. Плюс когда человек резцом не может поймать середину а потом напильником в токарном стачивает металл это наводит на мысли о уровне мастерства .
ເທມທທຶມມະກາ
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Hmmm😏
♥♥good job. Well done.. but how accurate is it? A video of the accuracy, please. Is this method effective, please? I would like to activate the translation into Arabic so that all the benefits can be spread. I have translation programs, but they are not accurate in terminology and some words. Video translation is not sufficient. Greetings from Egypt.. and we are waiting for the accuracy video
@pcpairgunschannel
Ай бұрын
Thank you! I will upload testing videos in a few weeks, using a PCP pistol.
@ameenattef469
Ай бұрын
@@pcpairgunschannel Waiting.. Greetings
Лайк за идиотизм 🎉
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@pcpairgunschannel
5 күн бұрын
@@srvctek1 whats wrong
Stop doing lathe work with a file
@pcpairgunschannel
19 күн бұрын
A file can be used for chamfering on a lathe, surely. Just dont pull it back and forth
lie does not work
@pcpairgunschannel
Ай бұрын
@@No_love69 why?
one more nonsense video. Simply use commercialy available rifling buttons. And if You want to do it this way don't cut off the non-twisted part of the hexkey but use Your lathe to rounden the part of the hexkey so it will fit nicely into the tube and serve as a guide. Furthermore using a hammer to drive Your button through is no good when You intend to create a gas tight rifling (with minimal gas slip) which is necessary to apply enough energy to Your projectile. You will need an hydraulic press. If the hammer method works then the diameter of the button is to slim. And use fat instead of oil.
@pcpairgunschannel
Күн бұрын
its for a PCP pistol. Check out my latest shorts video, it grouped at 10 yards so well it looks like only one pellet hole
I couldnt keep going. Man, you lack some skills. Why not use a 6mm allen key? Very simple to make it 5.6mm 7/32 is 5.56mm
@pcpairgunschannel
20 күн бұрын
You are right, I can grind a 6mm allen key to a bit over 5.6mm, but precision is the main concern. This way is much easier to keep the size precise.