nice work! i like the look.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tony, shame I didn't lube it so it galled a few lines. Your "this is where MAHO hid the speakers" had me lauching my arse of this morning.

@MakarovFox

3 жыл бұрын

nice

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

@@MakarovFox Thanks.

@christopherleveck6835

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Tony, are you going to sell your CNC machine? I think I know what it needs and would really enjoy the opportunity to buy it and make it better..... I have the parts to make it all the CNC its supposed to be. cwleveck at gmail dot you know...

@marcus_w0

3 жыл бұрын

@@RotarySMP Great Video! Instead of changing the whole motor only to be able to rotary engrave, mount an auxiliary spindle to the side of your tool head. Just get one of those cheap, 400w bldc spindles on Ebay - those work pretty good for engraving. Not for milling, though

Hooley dooley, first there was "Aircraft quality aluminium" now there is "Aircraft quality switches". I'm impressed.

@RotarySMP

2 жыл бұрын

After this video, a commenter asked me to look up the part number, and then we googles them. Those switches go for something like $200 a piece!

Excellent matching of music to sped up machine work!

@RotarySMP

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your feedback.

Aircraft Engineers and Mechanics have the coolest tools and things! Great work.....

@RotarySMP

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

Finally an interesting channel with decent music. Thank you.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Opinions vary on my choice of music. Thanks for watching.

It was interesting to learn about the aircraft assembly techniques and tools. Since you have the tools for engraving front panels, you may be interested in acrylic that is available in two or three colours. A thin veneer on the top surface, say black, and a thicker backing in another colour, say white. You can make nice looking panels in a single operation without having to resort to infilling with paint/nail varnish.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Good idea. I am not entirely happy with this one. I#ll try to do better on my next machine.

Nice work. It was a joy also to learn something more about the tools used in the avionic industry. I knew the Clecos already but to see how easy you riveted the parts blew me totally.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Rivetted structure is falling out of favour, but I like it.

Great videos and great music.

@RotarySMP

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the positive feedback

I've had some of those microstop countersinks for two years and have had no idea of what the use case was. I'm looking forward to not eyeballing my countersinks from now on. :)

@RotarySMP

2 жыл бұрын

They are a really nice tool.

Them rivets are super clean looking.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

Great work, a look wery good!!!

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot.

That panel looks nicely done.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

Can't wait to see the first testflight!

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

You and me both.

Nice project, it's coming on well!

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

Nice and Great Job! Yesterday I mounted the Home Sensors on my Lathe. (short video in my Instagram) The Electronic box did earlier with encoders switches and buttons. (Photos in the same place)

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Good on you.

Talk about a throw back this came up as a suggestion and same control pannel as todays video

@RotarySMP

2 жыл бұрын

The YT algorythm seems indistinguishable from randomness at most times :)

@forgeperformanceand4x4

2 жыл бұрын

@@RotarySMP i actually went searching as im on a control pannel hunt

@RotarySMP

2 жыл бұрын

@@forgeperformanceand4x4 Ever time I look at that control panel, I wonder why I bolted that keypad to the front, rather than the back of the plate, with a nice chamfered bezel. Also for a lathe, using a single jog encoder and axis switch was a poor choice. Two encoders dedicated to the axis is batter.

@forgeperformanceand4x4

2 жыл бұрын

@@RotarySMP im just trying to find some nice membrane keyboards

@RotarySMP

2 жыл бұрын

@@forgeperformanceand4x4 I found that one on the german craiglist type classifieds: www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-seite:3/folien-tastatur/k0

Very neat job, thanks.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Skin pins, aircraft rivets, rivet squeezer 😁 love it, makes me feel like I'm at work 😂 absolutely love your Chanel!!!! Hope to see more of very exciting videos. Is it possible to show case tools and your workshop? 😂

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

I try to show case tools as I use them. I'll probably do a workshop tour once I finish the Mini Lathe series. Thanks for the feedback.

@BorisSpark

3 жыл бұрын

@@RotarySMP would absolutely love the tour! The mini lathe project is absolutely great, love how much details you provide

@stanrogers5613

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't sound right without the screaming air tools though.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

@@stanrogers5613 That is true. I have air, but couldnt be bothered for six holes.

@BorisSpark

3 жыл бұрын

@@stanrogers5613 meh depends how long you been in the trade, might have been so long that you can't hear it no more 😂

Wuhu mate. That maho does a great job. 👍👍

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Shame I didn't lube the drag engraver on the first pass.

@nikolaiownz

3 жыл бұрын

@@RotarySMP i have No idea how thoes dragging engravers work. I have done plenty of engraving when 4000 rpm so its doable forsure 👍 And that counter sinker is freaking awesome

lovely panel

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

It looks great to me that counter sink is very nice wish i had one

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Not essential for just a couple of hols like this. I could have just used a normal coutersink in the drill press and set it's stop, but nice of you have to do a whole skin panel.

Ah, the brand new retro old look, and yes, there's a T-Shirt with that "those are very satisfying switches".

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

More the "recycling all the old junk laying around in my shop" retro look :) Thanks for watching.

And power tapping M3 without breaking the tap... That's impressive ahahah thoose switches looked amazing!

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Tapping anything without me breaking a tap it s miracle.

@paulwomack5866

3 жыл бұрын

M3 into thin aluminum through holes ain't so bad.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulwomack5866 correct. in is only 3mm thick.

@andresgodinho

3 жыл бұрын

@@RotarySMP my younger self has broken taps doing just that! I once broke an M12 tap trying to clean an already tapped hole ahahha

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

@@andresgodinho M12! That takes some real effort. Respect :)

excellent

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

Great job Mark, I wouldn't beat myself up over the drag engraver, it's just that aluminum extrusion machines like utter dog shite. The only good machinable grades I've found so far are EN AW 2017 and 7075 (also known as fortal). The milling succeeded because of the flood coolant.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Good point. 7075 machines really nicely.

. I love watching someone who innovates as a simple matter of course. Could the bit tearing the metal be from flex where it springs into the main shaft? Thanks for sharing.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching.Although it is a reamed hole, the carbide bit does move a little in it.

Great video, and VERY nice work! Please tell me, why do you pocket even the large cutout for the keyboard? On this job, you could have drilled a few holes inside, and screwed the waste plate down along with everything else. No tabs or cleanup needed and a nice surface all the way around. Just curious!

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I wasn't very familiar with the software, and couldnt work out a better way at that time. I have since gotten better at using it.

Aerospace tools are cool! I found out the hard way that drag engraving works better on anodised aluminum stock. Black gives better legibility but clear anodised works well too. The hard coating resists the galling that happens with wrought stock.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Did you still get galling when drag engrvin with lubricant.

@Preso58

3 жыл бұрын

@@RotarySMP I didn't actually get to the point where I tried using a lubricant. I sort of gave up when I saw how badly the uncoated material was galling up. I find that my drag engraver works better on hard material like steel, stainless and hard brass. The anodised stock still leaves a raised edge but it is at least uniform in depth and the line widths are fairly consistent. I am very keen to see how your control panel works out. I am particularly interested in how you integrate the MPG. I note that TOT is interested too. Regards, Mark Presling

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

@@Preso58 What angle did you grind your drag engraver to? I think mine is a 90° included angle.

@Preso58

3 жыл бұрын

@@RotarySMP I have two bits. One is 120 degrees and the other is 90. I recently purchased a second DE bit from Boring Resarch in the USA. It has a magnetic retention of the bit and it takes standard Dremel brazed carbide bits. I find that the 120 degree bits work well in soft materials. They give a wider engraved line without raising as much of a burr. I also have a diamond bit which works really well in hardened steel and stainless steel. I did some videos on the DE process. kzread.info/dash/bejne/paeBsKpmfMvZdaw.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/eHhsk8SDftfIe5c.html Anodised stock definitely helps. Regards, Mark

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

@@Preso58 My stock was just whatever was laying around. I grind up my own bits. I'll try making a 120° one.

0:56 i love this type of old panels, one problem is that whit that buttons if you break the cable is very complicated to fix because is sealed

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Good point. I doubt the Mini-lathe will see enough hours in service to wear one out, but their is always the risk of dropping something on it.

@MakarovFox

3 жыл бұрын

@@RotarySMP very truth, if i had that type of button or similar connection i would cut the cables very close to the body and solder or use that screwing terminals or something similar and glue the terminal in the body of the component

The Boeing surplus store closed a long time ago didn't it? I thought they were supposed to be online. Where do you get your boeing surplus stuff?

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

This ws all bought during a couple of visits to the physical shop in Renton, back in the 90's and early naughties. Bummer that it closed. It was the greatest shop on earth, ever!!!

Nice work!...can you provide a link to the keyboard?..looks great.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

I got it used on ebay-Kleinanzieger.de search "folientastatur". There are none in there at present.

It kinda seems like you have worked with sheet metal before - just saying 😄 Those rivets are awesome 👍🏼 What’s your plan about the Maho spindle - high rpm update?

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

I did an apprenticship as an aircraft mechanic, so I really like sheet metal work. I kind of keep an eye out for an ISO40 spindle speeder.That would be the easiest, although they are pretty highly stressed pieces of kit. The other option would be to make a mount to use a chinese HF spindle.

@andypughtube

3 жыл бұрын

@@RotarySMP I have engraved at 1000rpm, 4000rpm would be a luxury! The Chinese spindles are so cheap that it's hard to find a good argument for using anything else. How about a mounting thingy with an ISO40 taper on it, but then with a bracket to hold it out to the side/front. You would need some way to hold it at a repeatable angle, but that would allow you to choose whether it sat out fron, left or right of the main spindle. Or, for a really fun project, maybe live tool? If you look on eBay you can occasionally find frameless motors, which look like a good starting point. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264630038513 for example. Or, possibly, use a Chinese HF spindle and a belt-drive to a coaxial collet held in the main spindle. (A quick calculation shows that a Poly-Vee drive belt at 24,000 rpm would hit max allowable speed on a 95mm pulley, and a timing belt on a 79mm pulley, which sounds big enough to do the job.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

@@andypughtube Hi Andy. It engraves nicely at 4000rpm with D-bits. , but just takes forever. I even ground up some pyramid tip engravers to see what they are like, but still choose the drag engraver for that job. I need to try it with lube and see if that would sort the tearing. The Coaxial belt drive attachement would be pretty cool though.

@andypughtube

3 жыл бұрын

@@RotarySMP "Try it with lube to sort the tearing". Reminds me of an unfortunate experience that rather spoiled the moment.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

@@andypughtube :) Eggplant emoggi, peach emoggi

Nothing wrong with the Boeing surplus countersinks. They are literally surplus because the new aerodynamic rivets are no longer a basic 100 degree head design, the new rivets have flat-ish sides near the head and a counter sink below. Also, it is machines doing the majority of that work now and they do not require this tool.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

THanks for that info. Shame they shut that store. It was the greatest shop on earth.

When you do the video next week can you give detail on wiring up the mpg and the 3 position switch please I'd like to make my own pendant just not 100% sure I'd know what to do

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

It will either be next week, or the week after. The fabrication and housing of that end of the lathe is taking me a little more effort than expected.

Great, exactly what i still have to do, hope you share the hal file.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Will do.

I'm probably missing this info somewhere in one of these videos, but what's the name of the music that's played in the intro?

@RotarySMP

2 жыл бұрын

General one - Freedom Trail Studio.

At 22:55 i cryed a litlle bit. Please send me your adress and i will send you some screw's DIN7380. The DIN912 screws hurt! :D Great video as always. :) I like the rivets and the switches!

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I was already planning to get some 7380's, to replace the DIN 912s, but didn't have any here.

@surmetall5596

3 жыл бұрын

@@RotarySMP I'm serious! send me your address (in the discord / forum) and I will send you some. is M3x6 ok?

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

@@surmetall5596 Thanks.

mind me asking what you pay for feature cam. Autodesk will not give me a straight answer on cost.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

No idea, this is an ancient version from 2005 from a previous job.

love your channel. I'm keen to bet at the number of minutes in each video before you screw something up.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I am working hard at making fewer mistakes, but am pretty careless at times unfortunately.

That jog wheel could make a decent volume control 🤔

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

It would be a pretty big amp faceplate for it to fit.

@almostanengineer

3 жыл бұрын

@@RotarySMP I was thinking more for my computer.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

@@almostanengineer Woul look cool. They cost about $15 from Ebay.

When you did the big cutouts (keyboard and encoder) I don't understand why you turned the entire areas into chips, instead of just cutting round the perimeter. I'm clearly missing something.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

You are missing my incompetence with that software. While I stood there frm 25 minutes watching the Maho turn that all into chips, I had the brain flash,that I could have made a groove tool path. :(

"Axee" - is that a machinist's in-joke or something

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, it comes from mixing up german and english.

You really aren't shy with throwing in commercials. 9 must be some kind of record! 🥴

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Really? That is a lot. I added one at about 8 min, and one at 16 minutes. The rest is You tube.

@alexanderpaaskeborjesson3574

3 жыл бұрын

@@RotarySMP Yes, I figured as much. Maybe KZread by this point knows that it's unlikely for me to turn your Sunday video off. Keep up the great work!

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderpaaskeborjesson3574 Thanks. I think You tube is going to keep cranking the ads till everyone pays €10/month for premium ad free, or everyone leaves.

@alexanderpaaskeborjesson3574

3 жыл бұрын

That might just work 😅

Where is the keypad from? USB?

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

I covered that in Episode 28. kzread.info/dash/bejne/onWAyMOqabfOl8Y.html

Damn. Now I want to drive to Dresden Airport, find the workshops and raid their waste bins...

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Good plan. Aviation is pretty wasteful. I still kick myself for te time I saw a sheet titanium APU compartment firwall in the rubbish bin, and didn't take it.

@klaernie

3 жыл бұрын

@@RotarySMP but how would one get in? I also still envy the eevblog dumpster. But it seems no such thing exists here in Germany, or you'd be arrested for trespassing.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

@@klaernie You really need to be an insider. Does Airbus have a surplus store in Hamburg? Boeing Surplus in Seattle was my altime favourite shop on earth :)

hello friend where did you buy this keyboard could you send me the link

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

I got it used through Ebay.kleinanzeiger.de with the search "Folientastatur"

Black anodizing would look nice on that one, would also make the surface a bit harder and scratch resistant.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

True, but I am not set up for anodizing.

Did... did you just say "web-based online program"...? **eye starts twitching**

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry, that video was a while ago. What was the context?

First! And you should hit up Tony if he wants to do a collaboration with you, where you make a similar part for his CMC mill.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

I have been helping a little with the interpretation of the german tech data for the Maho. He is doing a very different retro fit than mine though.

@vincentguttmann2231

3 жыл бұрын

@@RotarySMP Yeah, that is sure. In his newest video (which I watched directly before this one, I love it when coincidences align like this!) he mentioned he wanted to keep a manual option (Computer Mediated Control), and obviously, he needs to mount the three jog wheels somehow. And since this part looks very nice, I could imagine a similar one in usual Mahogreen on his mill. And since Nico has not yet again brought something new to fix, I assume you have a bit more time.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

@@vincentguttmann2231 Yeah I watched Tony's newest video with my breakfast. He is a master. I loved his "and this is where Maho mounts its speakers." Nico has been away, so no new jobs for him lately.

@vincentguttmann2231

3 жыл бұрын

@@RotarySMP Phew. Thanks for taking us with you for the journey, and thanks for your time!

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

@@vincentguttmann2231 Thanks for the positive feedback. It helps with the motivtion on an endless project like this.

Less interested in the making of the box but more interested in the actual wiring to make this work.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

This week I am still working on the box sorry. Takin glonger than I expected.

"Boeing surplus in Seattle" wow, I thought you were in .au/.nz/.uk...I think that's still in Kent (?) ...I went there long time ago but their prices were unimpressive, so stopped going. Can you say what state you're in? Did you get a Boeing job? I've an article from ten years ago that engineers dreading their decision to outsource electronics design, it "came back to bite them"....obv. they kept on keeping on as the india software was implicated in 3rd world crashes (africa), and the sketchy CEO's were already maxing out their stock price in the $800+ range while elevators and roofs went w/o maintenance. Now they are consolidating operations to Everett and leaving Renton in downsizing efforts..

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

I live in Vienna, Austria. I only visited Seattle a few time on business or courses.

Btw i think i have a spare 3d taster i Will send you if i every can find it 👍😂

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, that would be cool. Thanks. I have started making a Renishaw style 3D probe, but I think my initial design sucks, and it probably wont work, so it is back on the back burner.

@nikolaiownz

3 жыл бұрын

@@RotarySMP i got a machine i am thinking about putting a renishaw probe on. How complicated would it be? It has heidenhein controller? I have No idea how its done

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

@@nikolaiownz Is that for your CMX 1100V? The probe itself probably only outputs a single signal. Most Renishaws these days transmit this wirelessly to a base station which would feed the signal into the controller. Contact open/contact not open. I am not sure how complicated it would be to integrate that into a heidenhain controller, but imagine you just have to pay them to unlock existing software features to access the probing routines. Someone wrote a very nice probing screen widget for LinxuxCNC... vers.by/en/blog/useful-articles/probe-screen

@andypughtube

3 жыл бұрын

You beat me to it, I was going to offer a Zeiss touch probe (from a CMM). One of several that I found in a skip.

I still have no idea where I am with this series 🤨

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

You are at episode 35. It starts at Episode 1 :)

@almostanengineer

3 жыл бұрын

@@RotarySMP I'm not though, I'm somwhere between 1 and 35, I'm just watching them all again.

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

@@almostanengineer Thanks for watching.

"I'm quite happy with that" made my OCD explode and then in the ultimate nod to irony, you used a aircraft countersink.....

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

:)

Nice but 9 commercials in 24 min video lol

@RotarySMP

3 жыл бұрын

Some one else also reported this. I put ad breaks at about minute 08:00 and minute 16:00. I guess KZread is just going to load up more and more ads till we all pay the 10 bucks a month for premium or leave.