I don’t have problem with private schools, 93% can’t afford it now anyway. Adding vat will probably only mean 95% can’t do private schools. What’s the problem. Everything else has to charge vat.

We pay VAT on almost everything, why are public schools any different?

@andrewcoates9426

9 күн бұрын

Because it relieves pressure from the underfunded state sector

@mrlee8703

8 күн бұрын

@@andrewcoates9426 Charging 20% VAT makes a lot of people quitting independent schools and changing to State Schools. How does this not increase pressure to state schools?

Went to a private school (in UK) from 1969 to 1978 and it was fantastic. Phenomenal teachers who really engaged us. I can't fault it. Or couldn't. For the last 7 years, I've taught Diversity at a Business School in Paris. 90% of the students have a background like mine: i.e virtually no diversity. I realize now, having worked the last 40 years, that not being exposed to diversity early on is a real liability. Learning to embrace diversity is a much better preparation for life.

@MrNelford

11 сағат бұрын

Those that can’t, teach. Those that can’t teach, teach a waste of space topic like diversity.

Once upon a time the state schools had swimming pool and playing fields.... GONE. State schools are now crumbling around our children. Private school is a business not a charity and latter does very little within the community not near enough to obtain charitable status.

@airdog1829

14 күн бұрын

Seriously though, how is that the fault of private schools. Wealthier parents are already paying more income tax than average too. What more can they do?

@martynwright2519

9 күн бұрын

Many private schools were set up as charities many many years ago, offer scholarships and allow state schools and communities use their facilities- charitable

@madders8781

Күн бұрын

@@airdog1829 they are paying exactly the same tax as those that get paid less. That is how the system works. If they had exactly the same wages then they wouldn't have to pay more tax. People arguing about who pays more tax is ridiculous when the ACTUAL argument who gets paid more for the jobs they do. I put fire service much higher than Bankers and politicians on a scale of earning for what they do

@airdog1829

Күн бұрын

@@madders8781 So you'd be happy to pay some more income tax then to help state schools? Clearly 1.5 billion vat take won't be enough. Let's all join in.

The average cost for private school education per year is £21,000, there are approx 615,000 in private education. that works out at just under £13 billion pounds on private education. £59.5 billion is spent on ALL THE OTHER CHILDREN thats over 9 MILLION!

Is anyone else wondering why the teachers went out on strike

Why is it in this country if we see something successful, we have to destroy it. I and my family all went to state school. None of us went to university. But grammar schools were incredibly successful. My dad was proper working class. Outside toilet, the works. But he passed his 11 + and got a place at a grammar school. That opportunity lifted him out of poverty and made his life, and therefore mine, so much better. So we destroyed the 11+ and grammar schools. We are about to do the same in the private sector. Can’t have people succeeding. The politics of spite. When Labour enact this policy (unless Starmer does his usual and u turns), it is going to be a disaster!

@madders8781

Күн бұрын

Grammar schools are state-funded just as state schools and have absolutely no bearing on this argument other than there should be more of them for those very same opportunities and NO private schools where the wealthy get a free pass

@madders8781

Күн бұрын

*based on merit not your wallet

Itll increase the house prices within the catchment areas of the better state schools

Mindless individuals who think everyone earns over £120k to send a child to independent school is not the case most are average earners making sacrifices to educate child. Clearly, the current education model does not work adding to it with increasing pupils will add to issues. Also, we pay taxes for state education which my child does not benefit from but pays for private education. If this is applied, it should be applied to University Fee's also then its a fair thoughout policy.

I have no problem with private schools The argument against Labour putting VAT on private schools is always about the parents who can only afford it if there is no VAT but how many go these schools who can afford to pay the VAT?

So you think that 50k plus a year isn't enough and you wanna charge them and extra 20% on top? If you want to improve state education why not campaign for all of us to pay more income tax? Oh no, sorry, you expect someone else to pay...

I've always been against private schools, I don't believe on the teaching side there the difference is class sizes. On a personal side. I believe it's elitist,

@teem5642

3 ай бұрын

People should have a choice to life they choose though

@madders8781

Күн бұрын

@@teem5642 that would be great if we all had the same money, i think is the point

Like crabs in a bucket. Just pulling those who try to climb out, back into the cooking pot

There shouldn’t be a need for private schools The state system should be gold standard for the tax we all pay.

Take labour to the ICHR Rich!! 😂

Outlaw private school so rich people don't have other choice but to make state schools good

@airdog1829

Күн бұрын

Are you saying that state schools are bad?

Have these people who won't be able to afford the increase considered getting a better job or cancelling their Netflix subscriptions?

@robertbose990

3 ай бұрын

They will need to find better jobs as they will need a further £20k per year

@lindacurrie8817

16 күн бұрын

​@@robertbose990There is always the option to take on a second job, work harder and do not buy a coffee when out and about. What is good for the goose and all that...

People shouldn't be wanting to send their kids to private schools. If state schools were adequately supported by the government to meet the needs of children then that would be fine. You shouldn't need to scrape as much money as possible just so your child can have their needs met. If this VAT stops you sending kids to private school then just like the rest of the country this is something you used to be able to afford but now you can't that's just an economy problem I'm afraid. If you can't send them to a private school send them to a state school and if you aren't happy with the situation with state schools then vote for a government you think will best rectify state schools instead of trying to escape the problems everyone else is facing. If you live in Britain you face the problems with Britain.

The question shouldn't be, should private schools pay vat, the question should be should public school pay vat when private schools isn't!

@teem5642

3 ай бұрын

Parents don't pay to send their kids to public school, so no vat.

@andrewjackson8089

12 күн бұрын

What VAT for public school parents?

Make them pay

@avrilmcintyre892

3 ай бұрын

Politics of envy and grievance

Let’s get rid of stat schools they are to much of a burden on the tax payers. Plus they would be pay twice for there kids to be educated. 😂

@avrilmcintyre892

3 ай бұрын

Politics of envy

Tice is such a liar.

@juniormartin3528

3 ай бұрын

tice was always a liar.

@sparkiefire8525

3 ай бұрын

No , he just has different opinion.

@seankelly3774

2 ай бұрын

@@sparkiefire8525no he is a liar and he knows it

Why did some labour mps send there children to private school to name one Diane abbot.

@CEO786

17 күн бұрын

Well if you can afford it then why not.

I went to a private school and it is clear to me that they are all businesses and should be VATable. Lots of them have set up profitable offshoots in Asia. That is the action of a business not a charity!

@avrilmcintyre892

2 ай бұрын

Says someone who took advantage of system what hypocrisy

“Don’t dumb things down” what an arse.

So when the VAT starts rolling in, state school teachers will get a pay rise? 🤣

Tice is a waking nightmare!

Will people PLEASE stop using the word "struggling" within the context of parents paying for private schools? 😫 I'm calling this The Snob Tax.

Public schools should be abolished, end of.

@avrilmcintyre892

3 ай бұрын

Politics of envy

@leeskinka

3 ай бұрын

@@avrilmcintyre892 politics of equality my friend. If you've benefited from privilege then I'm sure equality will feel like oppression, first the schools then the wealth, the left are coming for you.

@seankelly3774

2 ай бұрын

@@avrilmcintyre892what is envious about creating a fairer system rather than one that gives the already privileged more benefits. You”re talking nonsense. I sent my daughter to private school but think I should have paid VAT. Studies also show the number of students affected by this is less than 5 per cent so these right wing nonsense arguments that the builder&hairdresser can”t send their little Johny to private school because of VAT on fees is just another fat lie.

@avrilmcintyre892

2 ай бұрын

Sean hypocrisy after the fact. You didn't quite so object when you didn't pay.

@jonnybingham1

18 күн бұрын

@@seankelly3774the already privileged? What a clout. The reason why people send their children to private school is the inadequacy of the state alternative. Privilege does not come into it.

Tice don't half talk some shite, look how this country ended up with privately educated people now running this country, if you can't afford the VAT don't send them simples.

By sending my kid to private school I free up resources for the poor people….

"punish hard working parents".... so unless you have children in private education you are lazy, and all parents that have put their in worked hard from poverty?? If the line is hard working parents then set up a means tested voucher for those that struggle with the VAT increase. BOOM!!! ps poverty stricken Sunak's family put 3 children in 50k per year spots. hands up who else has 150k spare if you didn't have sky TV? Anyone?

Sean rather ironic you sent your daughter to private school and now you make such comments. What utter hypocrisy after the fact.