Make Nitric Acid from Sodium Bisulfate and Sodium Nitrate
In this video we Make Nitric Acid from Sodium Bisulfate and Sodium Nitrate.
I actually try a few methods like dissolving them in water first and varying the amount of reagents. Overall the best method i found was to thoroughly mix 43g of sodium nitrate with 150g of sodium bisulfate and then directly distill off the nitric acid. Yield was about 95% nitric acid at 75% concentration.
To remove unsightly dissolved nitrogen dioxide, hydrogen peroxide, ammonia or urea may be added in small portions to react it away.
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@dontfeedthepirates
4 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@joe_bhop
4 жыл бұрын
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3 жыл бұрын
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I might do a couple more videos on nitric acid like completely acid-free methods to make it and maybe redo the sulfuric acid version since my original video from ten years ago sucks compared to today's standards. My electrochemistry work has been slow since some of the chemicals are taking too long to get here.
@elburropeligroso4689
4 жыл бұрын
Can you show how to make white fuming nitric acid?
@ElectronicsShow
4 жыл бұрын
Please can you reply on the video of the liquid tin .what is the use of the 1g of acid sulfuric and if i dont have it ? Does the soulution work
@sdfxcvblank5756
4 жыл бұрын
so there is a lawsuit that could make patron go belly up, might want to jump ship...
@NurdRage
4 жыл бұрын
Electronics show: it should still work, just work badly. sdfxcv blank: There is? well that sucks. I just got youtube memberships working so hopefully people can move there. we'll see.
@sdfxcvblank5756
4 жыл бұрын
@@NurdRage I still heavily recommend looking into subscribe star. it's best to get the setup process done and just have it in your back pocket
I am not a chemist, I've never re-created any of your experiments. However, I have been following you for ~10 years and I still absolutely love your videos. You've taught me so much and I feel like I can follow along with your procedures. Thank you for still doing this, I hope you continue to for many, many, many more years.
@NurdRage
4 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@tachikoma7937
3 жыл бұрын
@@NurdRage Not a chemist as well. However, my father was one, and as I was interested in chemistry as a kid (age 12 -16) I got all the chemicals I needed for experiments that I found in chemistry books from the local library from him. He basically explained to me the possible dangers and then let me have fun with it. It was mostly inorganic chemistry and yes, the 5kg KNO3 he gave me ended up mostly in smoke ;) As I got older my interests shifted (computers were my second hobby) and I stopped doing experiments. However, when I came across your channel a year ago I decided to get back to my old hobby, bought some glassware and am experimenting again for pure joy and the entertainment of my kids now (they love it). So thanks a lot and I hope you continue for a long time, for me it's the best entertainment for me on youtube. I never thought about patreon - but I'm going to see how it works and you will be the first one I'd contribute to.
@BillAnt
3 жыл бұрын
Riiiiight.... how's that MDMA reaction coming along?! xD
@ZeroMass
2 жыл бұрын
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@proffesordickfacejr.4886
9 ай бұрын
I have too lol... I remeber finding this channel in 2009. 😉
NurdRage always uses a PPPS (Positive Pressure Personnel Suit) driven by a tank of SF6 in every video as you can hear, so NurdRage is always safe and sound during every experiment. Thanks for lighting up our day, @NurdRage You've been missed.
@GarryBoyer
2 жыл бұрын
Caution, sulfur hexafluoride is a super greenhouse gas.
@VerbenaIDK
2 жыл бұрын
@@GarryBoyer sulfur hexafluoride and hydrogen fluoride are toxic, work outside or in a fume hood. sulfuric acid and hydrogen fluoride is corrosive, wear gloves when handling it.
He is back , this is worth celebrating
Welcome back nurdrage!!! It’s been a while!!!
Me: I should be going to sleep... NurdRage: Nope, here is a video.
@doomhunta1094
4 жыл бұрын
i fucking love going to bed and put some chemistry videos for sleeping, its so relaxing!! then the day after i watch the video again :P
@science_and_anonymous
4 жыл бұрын
@@doomhunta1094 the best
Your depth of explanation has kept me from getting injured more than once... Thank you
Love the alternative methods. I'm looking forward to your follow up video. Glad to see you're back & Thank you for your ongoing efforts.
So good to see another of your videos NR ! You are an internet legend !
I just turned 18, have been following your experiments since I was 12. Hadn't I found your channel I'd never understand chemistry and grow an interest for it, your videos are the reason why I'm still studying chem.
@Ghostontherun
10 ай бұрын
How is it going in your chemistry work?
YES YES YES! So glad to see you back! You make chemistry interesting!
Thanks for this awesome video NurdRage.
whoohoooo i totaly forgot about this channel happy to see it still exists :D
@PCReboot
4 жыл бұрын
The hell haha. Exactly the same after watching Nielred I was like humm maybe he still makes videos haha
This is awesome! I was going to make some nitric acid again soon and I think I’ll try this because it’ll save my valuable concentrated sulfuric acid. Thanks a lot!
Thank you, my friend, for this valuable video..... I appreciate your successful attempt to prepare nitric acid in a cheap and efficient way.... Thank you very much.
Your a saint was just about to whip up some nitric tonight looks like I got a new experiment:)
Went outside to do the wet process. For context I live near Timmins/Sudbury and it's January 13th. My nitric froze during the distillation in the condenser and in the receiving flask. Neat looking crystals at least. Never thought I'd need to use water in my condenser for heating... Canada moment.
Excellent as usual.
Yay, a NurdRage video!!!
Nurd, you have answered the prayers of reloaders everywhere, thank you.
@NurdRage
4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Btw does "reloader" have a special meaning in your phrasing? (I keep thinking KZread reuploaders but that can't be what you're talking about)
@JoeSkylynx
4 жыл бұрын
@@NurdRage just gun ammo reloading. Election years tend to cause a massive scare, and ammo prices tend to skyrocket or the ammo is just simply not there.
@SoulDelSol
4 жыл бұрын
@@JoeSkylynx is nitric acid needed to reload ammo?
@JoeSkylynx
4 жыл бұрын
@@SoulDelSol it's about getting smokeless powder in its most basic forms.
@Schwarzvogel1
4 жыл бұрын
@@JoeSkylynx You just had to go and mention using nitric acid for use in explosives, didn't you? :( Ever wonder why we amateur chemists even have to go through all these steps to make our own nitric acid instead of just buying it from the hardware store like in the good old days? Or why honest KZread chemists keep getting channel strikes for purely wholesome and educational content (whilst objectively offensive and hateful content is allowed to remain on KZread?) It's because of people like you whose first thought is to use any chemical for producing explosive substances. This is why we can't have nice things. When _I_ hear about nitric acid, my first thought is to use it for refining precious metals or as an oxidizer for liquid-fuel rockets. *Don't* try to make your own smokeless powder at home unless you relish the possibility of turning your barrel into a metal flower and place relatively little value on your hands and fingers. Considering how easy it is to blow up your firearm with an improper charge of _factory produced propellants_ or even to get other terrifying/undesirable results just by using the _wrong sort_ of powder (e.g. reloading rifle cartridges with pistol powder or mixing rifle and pistol powders), making your own smokeless powder to deal with high ammo prices is extremely foolish. To be fair, it wouldn't be hard to make rudimentary propellants like cordite, but good luck finding reliable data for reloading modern cartridges like .223 with cordite, given that that propellant has been obsolete since the sun finally set on the British Empire. And even once you have your cordite, you'd have a long and tortuous battery of trial-and-error experiments awaiting you: good luck figuring out the correct grain size, shape, and burn rate to achieve decent, consistent performance somewhere between squib loads and kabooms. And this is all while avoiding frightening accidents in the production stage such as runaway nitration and accidental ignition of reagents/products that have plagued even industrial ammo manufacturers over the years. If you somehow have the setup to produce high-quality, reliable, and consistent smokeless powder at home with a healthy margin of safety, then you probably have the means to either hire private security or to buy out every box of ammo in your preferred calibers within the tri-state area.
There needs to be an indexed database of all these reactions. Like a wikipepdia of sorts. So you can just keep a copy of it and any time you need a chemical, find it by name, or by common uses, and it'll give you list of source ingredients and steps.
@GRBtutorials
4 жыл бұрын
Well, there’s the ScienceMadness Wiki. Though maybe NurdRage could make his own wiki.
@EarlofDestruction
4 жыл бұрын
Well, there is www.orgsyn.org/
@dimitar4y
4 жыл бұрын
@@EarlofDestruction just organic tho and not indexed
Hell ya thank you this is going to help me with my pgm refineing so much
Finally! A "normal" video from NurdRage!
@piotrkrawczyk2390
4 жыл бұрын
@@tfwmemedumpster I meant not some water purification, garden in beaker... Some good old chemistry. Waiting for sodium metal 😉
Thank you for the video.
New sub, great content!!
Would definitely be interesting to test the percentage yield against the molar excess of the bisulphate. Really awesome result, NurdRage! :)
Love u NurdRage
It’s weird. I’m somehow still in the ”Nurdrage has not posted in months” mindset despite you having posted quite a decent amount of videos lately. When I saw this, I was like:”Holy moly, is Nurdrage finally back?!”, then I remembered this is your 3rd video in a month :D Anyway, great video! Thank you for sharing and have a nice day!
Your a legend, as your comment bellow, cant wait.
These are the the type of videos I want to see
Please keep the videos coming
NurdRage: Bringing you chemistry that you can do with as few items of glassware as possible. :D
watched the vid as soon as it come out, ordered everything the same day, just finished distilling about 10 mins ago.. 95% yield. ( With Potassium Nitrate ) THANKYOU!1!! =)
@pyroman1013
3 жыл бұрын
@Ahapid KNO3/NaNO3 + NaHSO4 has a eutectic melting point of only 220°C.. so your safe, hope that helps =))
@pyroman1013
3 жыл бұрын
@Ahapid best of luck, this produces VAST amounts of NOx so be prepared :D
Thank you
Very nice! I like the video. I have a liter of conc. Sulfuric acid which I do rarely need but I can not get any nitrate salts...
Interesting choice of chemicals. As in my place sulfuric acid is sold in the supermarket next to the socks and soap LOL along with air fresheners for cars. it is known as an electrolyte for car batteries and I never saw this "Sodium Bisulfate" anywhere in existence.
@Energetics_Testing
2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha if u don't have a pool it's normal that u don't know what it is
Hey man, good to have you back! Love the series where you tackle synthetis of essential lab ingredients, endlessly useful. Never seen anyone take on Hydrogen Proxide, industrial method looks super complicated. Is there a method to actually make some instead of dealing with low quality and contaminated "over the shelf" stuff?
@xenonram
4 жыл бұрын
OTC stuff should all be USP. So it shouldn't be contaminated.
@EdwardTriesToScience
3 жыл бұрын
OTC usually has inhibitors to stop the peroxide from degrading, but every brand is different.
@VerbenaIDK
2 жыл бұрын
making hydrogen peroxide is an absolute pain but in most places you can buy 35% peroxide, hell, here you can buy 50% unless you are european, otherwise good luck with your 12% peroxide at best
@LateNightHacks
2 жыл бұрын
@@VerbenaIDK yeah, also surprisingly hard to find information on its synthetis One could say the same about sodium metal, but he managed to find a good solution for the home chemist Not easy to buy anything over %3 OTC without it having additives where I live
@VerbenaIDK
2 жыл бұрын
@@LateNightHacks well, ig you just have to deal with the peroxide you have h2o2 is extremely hard to make
Sodium nitrate + sodium bisulfate. (8:35) 1:45 Dry method. 4:48 Wet method.
yay, new vid!
Wanted to stop and thank you for taking the time to make all of this public
I'm curious if doing the distillations under vacuum would help any. Perhaps, lower temperatures could be used, leading to less decomposition.
Here HNO3 is available to buy as limescale remover for heating systems made of aluminium, but you can only buy a 5 or 10 liters jug
What about adding "trace" of water to the "dry" process? Can the high temperature be lowered without excessively lowering the acid concentration?
Any plans for videos about retrosynthetic analysis software?
so cool
Dear NR thanks o lot for your useful videos we learn chemistry simple but plz if possible describe in detail the reactions mechanism as in some reactions na replaced by H and in the other vice versa.thanks
Cool bit of Science ! Nice one. If i only had a peat bog and some plant pots ...
@NurdRage
4 жыл бұрын
You and me both!
@aga5897
4 жыл бұрын
@@NurdRage Time to subvert and go Bio !
@aga5897
4 жыл бұрын
I suppose a barrel and the correct conditions/bio-matter would do it. Finding the Right conditions would need some Scientists with the Will to find out ... Maybe spawn a 'NurdRage Collective Project' e.g. your fans ?
Yeah! where you at? perhaps i could move in! Got to get to the laboratory and do some experiments!
Wow! I'm from the EU and we require a licence for explosive and poisonous precursors (I just got email confirmation I was granted my licence, after 37 WORKING DAYS waiting for a reply, with tip top paperwork), this includes Nitric Acid at concentrations above 3%. Can't believe you can make it with just NaHSO4 and NaNO3 to such high concentrations and with such high yields! almost defeats the purpose of having a licence! Great video and explanation, might try it myself!
@kamilc8398
3 жыл бұрын
On further research, NaNO3 is also a restricted substance in the UK and not easy to purchase, while you can buy it anywhere in mainland Europe no problem... fml
@merich4940
2 жыл бұрын
Really? Here in Sweden you find sodium nitrate in the herbs/spice section. And yes, it's pretty interesting that making concentrated nitric acid so easily.
Could you make a video showing how the chemical phenol is made
Hi could you make a video about perchlorate synthesis like potassium or sodium perchlorate by electrolysis
So, say you're dissolving silver. Could you add the hydrogen peroxide to assist the reaction? Or, capture the escaping NO2 with hydrogen peroxide to form NO3?
Hey Nurd, I see that one of your repaired hotplate stirrers is still in operation, it's been a few years, how are the repairs holding up nowadays?
This is real alchemy
“You can even have violent decomposition” creepy timing...
So if anhydrous sodium bisulphate was used instead, this method could theoretically produce fuming nitric acid? After all, that's still less temperature than what's required to distill sulphuric acid.
Dear Sir, Can you make iron oxide along with ammonium chloride which dissolves completely in water?
Is there a way for this to give a higher purity, or is the max 75?
Good to know
I am curious - can you make fuming nitric acid if you heat up sodium bisulfate and sodium nitrate separately to evaporate moisture before mixing them?
It would be cool to see a video how to recalculate the Stoichiometry.
Hi I just had one question about your chart you state raw product in grams what is that because it's different on every line but at the bottom you have stated that every run used 43 g of sodium bisulfate just trying to figure out what the raw product in grams means
Nurdrage...could you theoretically lead the exhaust of Diesel cars through a cooled water tank to obtain nitric acid and nitrous acid "on the fly" in desirable quantities? In the aftereffect you could reduce emissions of these gases and would not need urea additives.
@dimaminiailo3723
2 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid that's not possible. Do not be sad: nitrogen oxides do not pollute the environment for a long time
isnt it the case that using a (Na/K)HSO4 mix will lead to a eutectic that melts even sooner?
The one dislike is from a Sodium atom
@sashimanu
4 жыл бұрын
No sodium atoms were harmed during the production of this video.
Dinitrogen tetroxide liquifies at ice salt temps. Can you make pure N2O4?
Can you make a video on extraction of bio active compounds without soxhelt extractor
@NurdRage If I had to guess, the sodium bisulfate acid making method is an application of the Bronsted Lowry acid-base theory?
What if you covered magnet in glass and then use it for stirring.
Do you need some kind of grease between the jpints of the glassware?
ooo i rikey dis one yes!
Hi I need some nitric acid to refine some gold that I alloyed to the wrong colour and am wondering 1. where do those plastic tubes go and 2. What are the names of the glassware items that you are using. Thanks
What are the white deposits that collect on the lid of the nitric acid storage container?
Have you tried the platinum method to make nitric acid?
Would it be possible to replace the NaNO3 with KNO3 (with the same stoichiometric proportion)?
Hi, would it help with the yield of HNO3 using the wet method if I reflux the solution for about an hour or more? Also if anyone knows a method of separating Sodium Sulphate and Sodium Bisulfate, please let me know, thanks!
Sulfuric acid drain cleaner is pretty easy to get. But it has anti corrosion compounds, which are organic compounds that you can remove with a little peroxide.
@gaulix69
2 жыл бұрын
Above 15% H2SO4 is now ban in all UE
You can get a high percent sulfuric acid at the auto parts store it is for automotive batteries and it's cheap.
@EdwardTriesToScience
3 жыл бұрын
and boil it down to get 98%, although most of the auto parts store I've went to don't want to sell it to individuals, but I found sulfuric acid drain opener, so sulfuric isn't a problem for me now.
Did you have shematic of chrmical procces how it's works to deeply understanding
where do you get sodium nitrate?
Another way to remove the NO2 and create perfectly clear nitric acid is to use an aquarium air pump or something similar. Just let it blow air into the flask for an hour and the acid is clear. If you have a multi-neck flask you can even do this during the distillation. If you really care about the purity you can first clean the air flow with some NaOH (to remove CO2, etc..) and dry it with CaCl2.
@karolus28
3 жыл бұрын
very cool
Can I use sodium meta bisulfate + h2o as wet mothed
Every time I see your video in my feed I become immensely over joyed!!
@NurdRage
4 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad!
@science_and_anonymous
4 жыл бұрын
@@NurdRage I would like to personally thank you for all you have done. Because of your great work among this world you have inspired me to study chemistry. Your knowledge passionately pushing me to remain curious, to question the world around me, to avidly want to experiment, create. I could go on and on, but I know your time is valuable. Thank you, truly, thank you.
I have anhydrous Sodium Bisulfate. Can I add a little water to the mixture of Sodium Bisulfate and Sodium nitrate and get the same yield as the dry method? Pool PH down will be anhydrous Sodium Bisulfate.
I can’t find your sodium nitrate video!
hello please how to refine or recycle lithium batteries in a metallic way. Thanks in advance.
I read in an old chemistry book that the NO2 contamination can be removed by bubbling hydrogen through the acid. I guess that the hydrogen reacts with the NO2 and gets converted to water in the process?
@avastmusic1209
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but also ammonia. NH3 will not only destroy some of your HNO3, but it's also a waste of nitrogenous product -- better to use hydrogen peroxide which will actually create more nitric acid. The amount is small, but if you do this repeatedly and are very careful to keep the h2o2 scrubbing solution cold and in an amber (or opaque or foil-wrapped) bottle/flask, you can accumulate a decent amount of "extra" nitric acid over time. You'll probably have to reuse the scrubbing solution relatively quickly, though, as h2o2 is quite unstable (hence the cold-and- dark clause above) and I don't know how long it'll last once you start bubbling NOx through it. I'd imagine a few weeks at least, based on research I just made up in my head :)
Does the excess sodium bisulfate in the dry method decompose into SO3? If so, there would be some sulfuric acid in the mix.
@karolus28
2 жыл бұрын
it don't
Where are you finding cheap sodium bisulfate monohydrate?
NurdRage!
Dr. Stone, here we go XD
I'm not sure if it's true but are you Canadian and if so do you know the legality of HNO3 here among amateur chemists?
I'm curious about the white residue left over. Is that Ammonium Nitrate ?
liking the video even if i haven't watched it yet, just to please the algorithm
Its possible to use potassium nitrate and sodium bisulfite dry method. To produce nictric? Thanks
@karolus28
3 жыл бұрын
yes, just use 51g KNO3 instead of 43
Hey where can I get NaNO3 would like to try this
@karolus28
3 жыл бұрын
Some countries banned every nitrate salt out there, but if your country didn't ban them yet, then you will probably find them on the internet as stump removers, or fertilizers(90% pure) . If your country banned pure nitrate salts, then you might want to look for fertilizers that have for example 20 % ammonium nitrate and the rest is some insoluble filler. But in some places it's just impossible to find any nitrate salt
Water vacuum device goes down to 12mm (boiling point of cold water). And less NO2 because Nitric acid distills at lower temp.
Hello Calcium Nitrate is also good? Thanks.
I tried the dry method using 2 moles of sodium bisulfate monohydrate to 1 mole of potassium nitrate, but my distillation set exploded with nitrogen dioxide gas. Is there any way to prevent this from happening in the future?