The lack of subject material on these tribes,their weapons and tactics is saddening, but this video is exactly what I've been looking for thank you.

@JasonToddRoberts

2 жыл бұрын

I found in my research that every family has a tid bit of information that was passed down. I'm trying to get permission to do a documentary on the Makah bow and arrow next.

Very interesting! Good to know that the cultures are working to preserve their heritage!

This weapon reminds me allot of the Patu (the Maori war club). The Patu is used as an extension of your fist, meaning you can 'box' with it. I imagine this clubbed weapon was probably used in a similar fashion.

@JasonToddRoberts

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that thought, I'm pretty sure the butt end was used for hitting too because lots of broken fragments of the weapon have been found too. It's like they saved them for souvenirs.

@LauraTeAhoWhite

3 жыл бұрын

@@JasonToddRoberts Yep, the butt end of the club looks very similar to our clubs. The butt end is definitely used for striking. In Mau Rakau (Maori Martial Arts) we do sparring with the Patu. Here's are some videos of how we use our clubs - kzread.info/dash/bejne/eoKImqhrhNW7prg.html&ab_channel=Kairakau kzread.info/dash/bejne/lK2fsZKgfZDeiZs.html&ab_channel=MauiTV kzread.info/dash/bejne/maWgtbxqc7SrpbQ.html&ab_channel=mb1968nz

@charliebowen5071

2 жыл бұрын

No no no.. the patu has far more natural inertia being carved from hard stones.. giving the flicking action or boxing with it… I would look at other tribes.. Comanche and Cherokee

Thanks for sharing your traditional weapons and martial culture. Respect from the Philippines.

@JasonToddRoberts

Жыл бұрын

I'm part Philippine too.

@JuandelaCruz001

Жыл бұрын

@@JasonToddRoberts Wow! 👋👊👍

@JasonToddRoberts

Жыл бұрын

@@JuandelaCruz001 my grandfather was from there. I just did a genetic test and some distant relatives showed up from Philippines. I never knew him. only his name.

@JuandelaCruz001

Жыл бұрын

@@JasonToddRoberts "Ikinagagalak kong makilala ka, kaibigan." (I'm happy to meet you, my friend). I'm also a former senior student of an FMA maestro years ago, but I'm semi-retired now.

@JuandelaCruz001

Жыл бұрын

@@JasonToddRoberts Our traditional "bone breakers" used for war is what is popularly called a "garrote". A flat stick made from black palm 🌴 which is as resilient as hardwoods but resists cracking because it's tough fibrous structure. It also has a hole for a lanyard also for retention.

Beautiful. I would love to see more unique weapons or similar stuff!

@JasonToddRoberts

4 жыл бұрын

I am just about done making another club. Stay tuned I have a video planned on makeing a Makah War Club from start to finish.

@davidgeldner2167

3 жыл бұрын

@@JasonToddRoberts Would you be willing to sell a whale bone club to me? I collect weapons for their beauty and meaning and would be so honored to add one to my collection it would mean so so much to me.

You did an amazing job with making this video. This is national geographic grade quality.

Thank you for this treasure

This was SO fascinating!!! Thanks for sharing this knowledge

I'm definantly preaty impressed.Thanks for the video.

Fascinating! Great video, thank you.

Wow that’s amazing ❤

the break was hard to watch O.O, awesome video! I love learning about new weapon types!

whale bone war clubs were common throughout the northwest coast, mostly based on the same design with the thunderbird head etc, thanks for the video

@JasonToddRoberts

4 жыл бұрын

All of the Makah ones I've seen have a Thunderbird and the design was consistent for hundreds of years. After making clubs if various shapes and sizes for testing I realized there is an ideal weight shape and size. 5 pounds is too heavy and 2 pounds is a little too light.

Thank you for highlighting your culture and history. Very interesting! I used to make bone pendants and the bone itself can be very brittle, if the bone was too much time in the sun, if it's to dry and if the fatty components are gone. I used to remove the fat from bones by cooking them in water in which I added washing powder for washing clothes.

Great video

These Makah war clubs are very similar to Māori war clubs the Pātu and Mere.

I'm surprised i missed the war clubs at the museum. I go up to the the Makah Reservation to visit family. I'm always eager to learn more about my ancestors and how they fought and lived

@JasonToddRoberts

4 жыл бұрын

Yes they are tucked away in the corner. I missed them for years too and I live here. I took notice years later when I kept seeing Makah War Clubs in collections accross the country. Then I wanted to find out why so many of them were made.

@jonathanbeck5765

4 жыл бұрын

@@JasonToddRoberts Yeah i'm interested in trying to see about getting either a bone war club or even out of wood

@JasonToddRoberts

4 жыл бұрын

I almost have a bone one done.

@jonathanbeck5765

4 жыл бұрын

@@JasonToddRoberts how hard is it to get a piece of whale jaw bone?

@JasonToddRoberts

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanbeck5765 It’s pretty rare, I have been luck and located enough to work with. Yew wood is the next obvious choice, Do you want one for the artistic value or to train with? I make training ones are well. They are the same shape and weight but have blunt ends wo you don’t have to worry about injuring anyone.

awesome im cree from sask

Very nice video. Klecko klecko!

I think that the cracking noise could difinantly serve as a preaty powerful form of psychological warfare and perhaps thats part of what makes these things so special.

Makana is the name of a war club in Taino. The word Macana is also murder in some brazilian tribes

If you take a look at how the Maori used their similar clubs for thrusting movements. They would split the opponent's face with a thrusting jab right into the face. For a non-lethal stunning blow they thrust into the solar plexus to knock the opponent out without killing them.,

These weapons are very similar in style to the Māori jade clubs.

It interesting to hear about escrima practitioners experimenting with a weapon like this.

Thanks for the video. I've seen someone making Hawaiian war clubs that have a similar appearance. Those don't have the thunderbird, but the overall look is similar. Both are interesting. Did you ever figure out how to use it so that it wouldn't break?

@JasonToddRoberts

Жыл бұрын

Whale bone had grain like wood. I think I was suppose to follow the grain while I was making it. I cut across the grain when I made that one.

@VTPSTTU

Жыл бұрын

@@JasonToddRoberts Thanks! That makes sense.

Boil the bent section for 2 hours on high heat and straighten the bent section

Just to be clear this is absolutely no less advanced than steel, and used in hot areas preferably OVER steel because steel overheats in the intense sun, making plate and even ring armor much less viable. In other words this is no primitive tool, it is an optimized and lethal weapon! Very valuable skills to learn to use one too bc if you can use this you can use a knife!

@Lvl18Meep

3 жыл бұрын

These bone clubs are much lass advanced than any metal tool. No doubt they are lethal but i mean come one man, these are objectively less advanced.

@davidgeldner2167

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lvl18Meep no, it always depends on the situation. They’re lighter than steel and it’s a bludgeoning weapon so I’m not comparing it to a knife I’m comparing to a thin steel baton. And for a club? Yes, bone and wood are both great materials even today. They’re just expensive.

A club like this definantly could have caused preaty nasty cuts even though it wouldn't have necessarily been on par with a sword it still would hurt preaty bad.

@JasonToddRoberts

4 жыл бұрын

Gary Naccarto one detail I didn’t add was that the lanyard was used because when the club was covered with blood it was hard to hold. This tells me that whoever was yielding it was able to kill multiple people in battle. The broken ones were saved. Several where found at an archeological dig. I’m guessing it was so they had something to share when they were telling battle stories.

I’m guessing that the lines were not carved with a blade… it seems it would be vastly easier to abrade… like a rock edge used as a file or saw… easy going on the arms

Is it possible historians are misunderstanding accounts, and these were ceremonial? Two reasons I say this: First, it seems like a waste to spend so long decorating something and devoting so many resources (specifically valuable time) to something that would get damaged in combat. Second, the first hit broke the bone one, but the wood ones held up. Maybe the wood ones were actually used, and less ornate, but deteriorated over time, and the ceremonial/ornate bone ones survived.

@JasonToddRoberts

3 жыл бұрын

No, it’s name means split your face, there are lots of broken ones in the archives. Among them are wood ones too for sealing and fishing.There are stories about how the war clubs were concealed and used for surprise attacks. One story tells of how other digging sticks were used in battle.

Can I buy a club? Also, these are somewhat similar is design to the Jade and Wooden clubs called Mere and Patu that the Maori tribes of Polynesia used historically.

@JasonToddRoberts

2 жыл бұрын

Yes very similar. I’m going to be making some steel replicas to see how they perform. I recently got a plasma cutter. I could make you a wood or steel one. Whale bone has restrictions on how it can be used commercially.

Wasting whale jaw that definantly sad to see happen however the thought of seeing one of these tested and everything going right is exciting.

Is it possible that they were aiming for the neck or the arms???? Bone material is hard but brittle.. wood is hard but also soft ...yet...the French and English..even in Germany...they were producing tomahawk's for the native American Indians because of the material of metal.

In the Caribbean that a Makana.

Alil simular to Maori Toa, weapons, culture, even to the canoes? Rumours of our origins are still not proven. If your interested, you might want to check out if there may be a connection? I am am Maori.

Looks like maori patu

日本からこんにちは。from japan.

@JasonToddRoberts

4 жыл бұрын

ありがとう、マカ族から

I think it broke because you hit an old hard skull.