Having actually done this back in the '90s, I can tell you that you need to sift the very fine particles out of the lunar regolith before growing plants in it. Otherwise the regolith is so impenetrable to the root systems that the plants actually push themselves out of the ground! Also, soil is not something you want in a habitat. It uses up a lot of imported material and tends to emit gasses that life support systems find tricky to handle. (I worked on the original Artemis Project, which was totally different to the current one but with similar goals)

@TheKrispyfort

4 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙂 I suspect the air filtration systems are in need of more than a simple HEPA filter. Do they use a variety of water spray to capture the particles? I ask because when having to vacuum up a hazardous carpet I use a fine spray to prevent kicking biohazardous particles up into the air I am breathing. Was taught by a volunteer firefighter to use a dispersed spray of water in case of a gas bottle flame to weigh down and reduce the amount of flammable gas spreading out into the area.

@JaSon-wc4pn

4 ай бұрын

Cool Carrots dig themselves out for picking

@Geekofarm

4 ай бұрын

The problem gasses are things like hydrogen sulphide, nitrous oxide, methane and so forth which are not removed with a particulate filter. Spraying water around is problematic because it increases humidity, and you have to take that out otherwise it re-condenses in the cooler parts of your habitat. We used carbon filtration and very high temperature solar pyrolysis (both atmosphere and filter carbon). There was a post-pyrolysis stage that did use water and cold trap to extract acidic gasses, and these were neutralised with the remains of the organic ashes to form fertilizer. This skipped the compost heap step, and materials could be stored over the lunar day/night cycle. @@TheKrispyfort

@Geekofarm

4 ай бұрын

Getting the damn seeds to stay under was a problem. We considered turning lunar basalt into rock wool and growing in that, but sifting is easier and more reusable. @@JaSon-wc4pn

@LyteRetro

4 ай бұрын

​@@GeekofarmI yearn for your knowledge

This is a major win for Japan! I really congratulate their ingenuity and cleverness as it's no easy *feat reaching the moon, even if it's a head dive in!

@daveogfans413

4 ай бұрын

lmao, ez feet bro 💀

@shanent5793

4 ай бұрын

I think you mean "it's no easy meters"

@BattlewarPenguin

4 ай бұрын

thank you both for the correction 😅

@KarlJayce.

4 ай бұрын

More trash on the moon, how nice

@BattlewarPenguin

4 ай бұрын

@@KarlJayce. trash: things that are no longer useful or wanted that have been thrown away. I do not think the result of years of engineering, dedication and millions of dollars possibly, has been thrown away. Furthermore, the data and experience collected is invaluable for any if not all future missions involving the Japanese space agency/international community. Being a cultural and technological milestone and museum worthy material. I think calling it trash is a comment made in bad faith

Japan performed FIRST Ever Kerbal Moon Landing !!!

@TankFerretPresents

4 ай бұрын

😂 Thank you

@Pyxis10

4 ай бұрын

It's the main menu screen!

Considering the cultural importance of "face" in Japan I salute them for their transparency

@htos1av

4 ай бұрын

Regardless of culture, feelings, etc., we ARE talking orbital mechanics and rocket science here. Technically a success! Yep, salute!

Congratulations to Japan 🇯🇵 for reaching the Moon 🌕. The mission was not perfect but his vehicle arrived!

@lionelmessisburner7393

4 ай бұрын

@@stphenwilson7464 Please learn. Like actually. Yes it's real. Stop with the psuedo-science.

@WayneTheSeine

4 ай бұрын

Indeed. Contratulations on a great feat. Upside down, or laying on its side....it landed in one piece. As they say in flying, "any landing you can walk away from is a good landing."

@stphenwilson7464

4 ай бұрын

Are you joking.?

@soldaat001

4 ай бұрын

​@@stphenwilson7464 Are you an allien? 🧐 Are you fake, flat or not to smart? No one will land on You in the near future is my guess 🤫💯💞 Peace Brother ✌️ ( please do not answer, i've got the answer already my friend 🫶) With love from Earth ❤️

@stphenwilson7464

4 ай бұрын

Are you on drugs.?

Scott Manley mentioned that one of the nozzles came off while landing. Thus it lost 50% of vertical thrust. The lander compensated this using its steering thrusters.

@theharper1

4 ай бұрын

And the nozzle failed only a few metres above the surface, which severely affected it's ability to perform the flip that was necessary to land "upright" (actually on it's "side").

@allangibson8494

4 ай бұрын

45%. The engine was still firing but lost its nozzle.

@absalomdraconis

4 ай бұрын

​@@allangibson8494 : I think it was 55% thrust remaining after the nozzle fell off, but it's close regardless.

@allangibson8494

4 ай бұрын

@@absalomdraconis They lost 45%…

Any landing you can walk away from (or the rovers can drive away from) is a good landing 😉

As others have pointed out, the Japanese probe landed upside down, but it *did* land...more specifically, it decently soft-landed, and didn't *crash* into the moon, which is itself a good feat.

@robertsteele474

4 ай бұрын

From the photo, the cameraman seems to have survived as well.

@VulpisFoxfire

4 ай бұрын

@@robertsteele474 Presumably, the camera is on one of the drones.

@robertsteele474

4 ай бұрын

@@VulpisFoxfire 'twas a joke off the KZread omnipresent cameraman phenomenon.😉😁

The Japanese basically sent a dart to hit the Moon and then a Poke'mon ball to take a picture of it. Japan scores!!!! Welcome to the Moon club Japan.

Ok...landing on a slope and rolling makes much more sense. That actually provides some very interesting data and unintentional humor. Congratz, Japan!

It’s so Japanese style: KAWAII LANDING! Cute!

@TheKrispyfort

4 ай бұрын

kawaii landing demo kowaii desu ne daijobbu 👍

Good job Anton, my wife and I enjoy your obvious enthusiasm and knowledge of space and science. You are what makes KZread worth $22 a month. Keep up the great content, your so much better than BBC or NatGeo and make Michio K seem a simple man. Stay nerdy Anton!

@erinmcdonald7781

4 ай бұрын

Agreed. His explanations and friendly approach are encouraging for students, as well. 💜🌌

@josephbrandenburg4373

4 ай бұрын

Ublock origin $0/month and then you can send $22 directly to whomever you want without the middleman

@nolanwhite1971

4 ай бұрын

Unlock origin (or any of the similar extensions) isn't available on android devices though. Or Apple, I assume. Great for desktop, though!

@josephbrandenburg4373

4 ай бұрын

@@nolanwhite1971 true. There's Newpipe on Android. I donno about iphones, but there's Freetube on desktop.

@dg8620

4 ай бұрын

Plus pretty unethical. Creators deserve their ad revenue and I'm sorry but Google does too. Yeah Google is huge and wealthy, but YT is a phenomenal source of entertainment and functionally free.

I wonder if, assuming sufficient battery power were available, a burp from one of the orienting engines could be used to roll the ship, on the surface.

Great updates, Anton.

On the next US lunar landing, we should land near the Japanese lander and have the astronauts turn it back upright for them.

@TheKrispyfort

4 ай бұрын

With permission first - design an elaborate ceremony to celebrate the international cooperation. Give the Watching World a feel good moment, and possible celebrations to just distract us from Our own stupid for a while.

@douglaswilkinson5700

4 ай бұрын

Won't help. One lunar night (~14 days) without electricity to keep the electronics warm will render them inoperative.

@LyteRetro

4 ай бұрын

​@@douglaswilkinson5700it'll be ceremonial

@michaellee6489

4 ай бұрын

that would be an absolute FLEX which the Japanese might take offense to...🤣

@painmt651

4 ай бұрын

@@douglaswilkinson5700so we throw in a battery change.

Well done Japan. Scott Manly has a report saying that one of the rocket nozzels fell off just before the landing and as the craft tried to compensate for the lack of control, the vehicle rolled on touch down. Unfortunate timing.

@KarlJayce.

4 ай бұрын

Well done Japan, for leaving trash on the moon..

@monsvillerailways5736

4 ай бұрын

@@KarlJayce. Yeah. True. Like every other landing attempt on the moon or Mars. Practice makes perfect though. You can't send humans there without practice and failures to learn from. 👍

@KarlJayce.

4 ай бұрын

​@@monsvillerailways5736In reality, We are making 0 technological progress. We don't have any place to escape to if something goes seriously wrong on our planet.. Elon Musk is dreaming about Mars but it's just that... try living rest of your life on Antarctica.. On Mars it gets even colder..People over there would go crazy for sure.. More logical is to start with the Moon. Landing port or Research Center... It's enough with probes and rock Research. We must make some actual progress..

Thank you as always Anton.

Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. 😉🙏

My absolute favourite science guy, keep up the good work!!!!!

Good smile at the end 😊 stay wonderful

That lander doesn’t appear to have any sort of supports on it’s landing side. How was it supposed to hold itself up had it landed correctly?😂

@lynnlamusga

4 ай бұрын

Scott Manley has a recent video that addresses that. It was supposed to land on it's side actually, but it looks like one of the two main decent engines lost its bell nozzle, which caused it to lose thrust. The spacecraft actually compensated pretty good, as it was programed to be somewhat fault tolerant, but it just couldn't quite stick the landing. So they ended up with a very Kerbal landing. It's amazing it didn't just crash & explode. They were also trying to do a difficult landing on their first attempt.

I like Japanese products and their history.

Thank you for bringing this video to my attention. Really interesting

#1 science guy!

I hope to see a Luner colony in my lifetime -- good job Japan !

@KarlJayce.

4 ай бұрын

Highly unlikely, more like trash dump for humans..

Our first extraplanetary colony. Should have been up and running for years, already. Heads or tails for the Japanese. Glad they didn't send any humans on this trip. Thank you, Anton!

You could say SLIM literally is “head over heels “ for the moon…💛🌙……. ⚛️☮️🌏

Cool update sir. Thx.

You're such a brilliant storyteller Anton. Impeccable links too.

Amazing update. Can't wait for Moon 2.0

Thats very cool thanks for sharing Anton and congrats japan may your missions be successful

Great report Anton, thank you , people forget the importance of our moon to life on earth. It's great future platform for science and practice space bases.

Unusual rocks: They have found TMA-1! (Apologies to Arthur C Clarke)

Good for Japan! About time they joined the party!!

Well done to Japan and for Space Exploration !

It's not upsidedown, it's on its side. It was meant to end up with the main engines oriented horizontally rather than vertically and the solar panels on top.

Congrats, Japan. Thanks, Anton.

Thanks for sharing.

Fascinating in many ways, thanks👍🙄

The lander took a deep dive on the moon

Any landing where your rovers can walk away, is a good landing? ;)

there's a Japanese engineer somewhere, holding the plans the wrong way up, confused what's gone wrong, saying to himself "looks right to me"

The fact that we're still finding new stuff on the moon is crazy

Bottoms up, Japan!

@TheKrispyfort

4 ай бұрын

Ba dum tish

I could understand it landing upside down if it had launched from Australia.

@bretthess6376

4 ай бұрын

🐸🦘🦘🦘🦘🐸

Congratulations Japan 👍! Glad you made it!

pretty impressive. first lander to breakdance on the moon

Seems strange that the larger earth has an axial tilt to the ecliptic of 23.5 ° and the smaller moon has a tilt of 1.5°. Perhaps this is consistent with the theory that a collision threw off earth material that collected in earth orbit and in molten state was able to orient itself with the ecliptic.

@bretthess6376

4 ай бұрын

So close but no cigar. That sounds about right.

Cheers, from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.

Dude you have the most relaxing voice 😂

It is so on-brand for Japan to have an anime-like landing on the moon

Anton, of course Japan officially landed on the moon. I mean, I always considered the Lawn Dart a valid landing strategy in a B737 or A320 in Microsoft Flight Sim, so it should count here on the moon.

Could it be possible that the Moon IS Thea ? We wonder where the water came from and if the moon was Thea it could be responsible for our Crust meaning its not that the Moon is like the Earth but more like the Earth is like the moon as in my half baked hypothesis here had a minor planet( Thea) covered with water like many are slammed into the earth it would coat us in a layer from the remains of the body that smashed into it and now orbits it giving us water and a crust. IDK, probably wrong but just an idea that popped into my head while watching this. Enjoy, or not, what do I care lol

Congratulations Japan 🇯🇵 Your scientists and engineers have made an honourable achievement

Technically correct is the best type of correct

They might have landed upside down but they still landed

Always a good idea to investigate magnetic anomalies on the moon; we should have done it 23 years ago.

and now for something completely upside-down 😎

I love Major Moon!

you should combine your first and last name to one name….. ANTRON!!!! 🔥🔥🔥

"SMART" lander... **seeing it on its head** 🤨 Keep pushing on that door you pull to open. Congratulations to the school for the gifted!😊

Ah, the new water just isn't like the old water. Dang youngsters!

Congtats Japan.

Lava Tubes would be great shelter. Seal off a section, then pressurize it for a low radiation basecamp.

Actually it could use it's thruster to turn itself rightside up. With some luck of course.

So did the moon actually land on it? Direction in space is all relative.

@nuance9000

4 ай бұрын

Yep. And the ground is accelerating towards you!

@TheKrispyfort

4 ай бұрын

In keeping with the typical Japanese unusualness, as demonstrated in many manga and anime, the Lander is wearing the Moon as a hat

Most Space Mishaps just seem to blow up, so this is definitely much better!

Yes it still counts

Ah, the moons been due for an update for about a billion years.

Even though it is a little funny that the poor prob/satalite ended up upside down. But, its still amazing that they got there in one piece. Congrats to Japan.

The sniper did hit the moon with the tip towards the surface. So it was really a moon sniper literally

Swirly aliens.

Japan always has to find some way to do it differently than everyone else. Even their moon landings have to flip everyone's expectations!

Lunar tubes!

The dust is from the sun having mini novas every 12k years as our star passes through the galatic sheet (dust fields in the galaxies magnetic field tendrils) our star gets covered in the interstellar dust sheet then releases a mini nova. Which explains the cyclic disaster cycled on earth.

TMA 1! Clarke was right... now we need to dig for the monolith.

I wish we could have seen the landing. Add in some R2 screaming.

It's funny that you say discovery is done by accident.

Oh shit

Anton All you have to did down and find TMA-1, or rather RGMA-1, given its location.

If these guys in Japan watched robot wars they would have had a self righting mechanism

7:13 Those lava tubes illicit thoughts of protected habitation zones :P 10:19 Drill I say! Drill deep. Or go look in the bottom of those lava tubes :P > 11:20 I was thinking the other night that the regolith being sharp and jagged is ideal for concrete mix (If they can find enough water to set the chemical reaction off). Maybe they would need to filter out the more course particles, but I can see a dome over one of those lava tubes :)

Come on Anton, it‘s not upside down, it‘s laying on it‘s side!

Given the recent discovery of large amounts of ice on Mars, perhaps a similar investigation of the moon might find deposits under the surface? Did LRO have similar mapping radar?

👍👍

they should have designed the lander with some arms that would flip it over.

now waiting for japan next lupex mission (Moon South Pole Mission)

The plants didn't grow 'well' in the lunar regolith they struggled a lot. Also the lack of water in craters isn't great but luckily current water recycling technology (iss life support system) only has a 3% loss rate.

Sure have been an awful lot of unmanned lander crashes in the past few years. Perhaps they should consider going back to pocket calculator levels of technology, that seemed to provide 100% success rate with far larger and more complex landings 50 years ago.

JAXA is hoping that the angle of the sun might allow light to reach the solar panels before the solar night. I'm a bit surprised that they didn't use the attitude thrusters to try to roll it, but I guess that even in 1/6g they don't have enough thrust. :(

"If you can hop or wiggle away from a landing, it's a good landing."

Fascinating!

Any potential moon base would have to have centrifugal living quarters to offset the affects of the lack of gravity on the body.

Question: Could nuclear devices, precisely timed and regulated, create a "landing pad" for future missions. Moon dust is a major problem.

@stargazer5784

4 ай бұрын

Well... The dust is clearly a problem, but we don't want the astronauts to come home glowing in the dark either.

Didn't land upside down, it landed 90° rotated from the desired landing orientation

👍👍👍

they should be sending supplies up for future missions little by little every time a box is sent to the moon

@rolandthethompsongunner64

4 ай бұрын

Why ?

@nuance9000

4 ай бұрын

They are😂

@rolandthethompsongunner64

4 ай бұрын

@@nuance9000 They are what ?

@skyscrapersx5877

4 ай бұрын

@@nuance9000 yes yes I know these can be used as raw materials, but I mean freeze dried food packets and stuff. Might seem insignificant now

@skyscrapersx5877

4 ай бұрын

@@rolandthethompsongunner64 in case of emergencies on future missions, broken parts, damaged food, etc

Reminds me of an Autel drone. Comes to land and flips itself over.

Well….. from the earth’s perspective, it is right side up!😂

Serious question. How did they photograph that lander?