Rarran: "i can promise you there is not really a middle ground" 1st card is Gnomeferatu 💀

@Rarran

3 ай бұрын

I did not plan on this card being in the cycle, but we brought up the other video and next thing we knew we were there.

@thehandler4221

3 ай бұрын

Gnomeferatu was good tho wym

@ismayonez6865

3 ай бұрын

I mean it was played quite a lot, so I'd consider it a good card in its time 😅

@Agdur91

3 ай бұрын

@@thehandler4221 Afaik it was played pmuch solely in highlander and was one of the lowest win rate cards in the deck. Gnomeferatu being used was mostly about the meta at the time not having enough good turn 2 plays, in a lot of metas it wouldn't see any play at all. If you want to call that good I suppose you can, but in the context of the cards/the discussion I think middle ground is more fair.

@jeremylaforge6194

3 ай бұрын

@@Agdur91 Gnomerferatu was played as a 2 of in control warlock during Kobolds & Catacombs. The reason the card was good WASNT because it could snipe your opponents cards (though that was nice) it was because control warlock drew many many cards and needed a way to prevent their opponent from being too far ahead of them in fatigue. It was extremely important in control warrior and warlock mirror to allow you life taps without losing the game later.

Rarran: all cards are either bad or good, there is no middle ground Also Rarran for the whole video: this card wasn't meta defining but it saw some play

@Fohnzii

Ай бұрын

Pretty much lol

I personally believe Ragnaros his voice lines also contributed greatly to its popularity. The whole, "by fire be purged!" Followed by, "die insect!" definitely left a mark.

@MrParadux

3 ай бұрын

The same reason Rarran says he hates Implosion is why I hate Ragnaros and old Sylvanas. They can have just so polarizing results either if played or played against yourself.I love Ragnaros the character, but the card feels terrible to play and to play against. It's insane to me that he says that Ragnaros was "fun to play and play against". For me it was the opposite

@RyanJakeGarcia

3 ай бұрын

@@MrParadux I think the rng Ragnaros introduced wasn't as bad because you were already 8+ turns into the game usually. The randomness of Rag had less impact on the game than Implosion did on turn 4. I think thats a part of why many of us remember Ragnaros more fondly.

@DeltownAtze

3 ай бұрын

Ragnaros my beloved, my first ever legendary card from a pack. To this day i still include him in almost every deck... granted i only play Wild or Twist if ever.

@Beisser76

3 ай бұрын

​@@RyanJakeGarciaFacing Ragnaros as old school Handlock was frightening. Are you gonna kill me? Kill my 8/8 or my 2/3?

@7Ryong7

3 ай бұрын

Big fan of the variations in LIVE, INSECT and JIVE, INSECT

In HS the card that killed the most people was 4 mana Leeroy. That dude was a menace especially with Rogue.

@Shaftofthor

3 ай бұрын

And in handlock with Power Overwhelming plus Faceless Manipulator for 20 damage to the dome

@CreamyPesto505

3 ай бұрын

Leeroy, force of nature, savage roar.

@bigidiot5881

3 ай бұрын

And now it's coming back to standard with the rotation! Yaaaaay.... 😒

@RaveTheo

3 ай бұрын

@@bigidiot5881 "time's up,let's do this" edit : i immediately thought of Fireball for players killer

@WeAreOutOfWeed13

3 ай бұрын

Yep, agreed, I also instantly thought of Leeroy because I've been killed but also killed tons with it, even if he's not that played anymore. Also Kill Command and Fireball if we're talking class specific.

The card that's killed the most players in Hearthstone history? No way it's Shudder; it's probably Leeroy.

@marcustulliuscicero5443

3 ай бұрын

I'd say it's Fireball. Not only saw the card itself play in early HS, there's also Tony.

@thomassynths

3 ай бұрын

In arena, it's Vicious Fledgling

@jji7447

3 ай бұрын

I think they mean 'made people quit' not just got lethal. Although Leeroy might still take the cake there too.

@alexlowe2054

3 ай бұрын

Leeroy is probably it, but don't discount Malygos. Leeroy was often in aggressive decks, but he wasn't always going to get lethal when he was played. Malygos, meanwhile, was almost always the cause of death when you played her, and Malygos has been in the game for a very long time.

@Nightknight1992

3 ай бұрын

oh yeah, forgot about him^^ i thought of all the 1 drops like undertaker, tunnel trogg, patches or leper gnome. also druid combo

Loved Covert almost guessing Nat Pagle's voice line word for word

@ethansilver3996

3 ай бұрын

In the same tone too, uncanny

@Noobie2k7

3 ай бұрын

So Voxy is a Weasel and now Covert is a Fisherman. I wonder which MTG streamer will become a HS card next.

16:38 for sure Leeroy, he is literally a neutral finisher that was there from Classic

@AM-we1es

3 ай бұрын

I'd say Fireball is also up there probably, sure it's class specific, but it lasted a lot longer than Leeroy

@shadowking9557

3 ай бұрын

@@AM-we1es thought about it myself, but exactly the fact it being mage exclusive made me choose Leeroy

@aQrator

3 ай бұрын

My thoughts exactly. Shudderwock is more powerful but Leeroy, for as long as it was available and even for a while in wild, Leeroy was *THE* Aggro finisher. I'd argue C'thun would be positioned higher than Shudderwock if only because it was a very beginner friendly archetype; Shudderwock is not the card I expected him to show there

@calebbarnhouse496

20 күн бұрын

It's definitely fireball, Leroy is a legendary so most players didn't have him, mage was one of the most popular classes, and fireball was immediately unlocked for mage, so turn 4 against a mage you could feel safe betting you'd get hit in the face with a fireball

5:52 to be more specific, Tickatus was played specifically because it allows warlock to auto win in any control matchup, and it was pretty much trash in any other matchup. I remember playing control priest in that era and facing warlock was just miserable. So in a way I'd say Tickatus was a significant part of that deck.

@TreacherousTetrisTerrorist

3 ай бұрын

Just like how Rin was a good card because it allowed warlock to beat all control decks.

@Bemxuu

Ай бұрын

More like win vs combo match ups. I understand that's what you included into "control", just wanted to add my 10 cents :)

Covert: "Did Hearthstone really have a lot of effects like this? 50% chance to do something?" I'm pretty sure there was an MTG April Fools Day errata or something where they determined that ties could be resolved through suitably random means, such as a coin flip or a game of Hearthstone.

To his defense, Orion is played a lot in wild (or was played, depending on meta) where there are lots of playable secrets. The most annoying thing is trying to remove him only for a counterspell to be revealed and instead of dying he got +2/+2 and gave more value. + the fact that secrets there are getting cheated in turn 1 and 2

@satibel

3 ай бұрын

Also it's yet another ice block afaik.

@iuricunhamurakami8261

3 ай бұрын

Even when secret mage is the nuts, orion is not the reason at all, most lists cut him because 4 mana is too expensive in that deck that plays half the deck for 0

@Darkprosper

3 ай бұрын

Wild has more playable secrets to main deck, but also more bad secrets to generate from Orion. It doesn't matter that there are more secret decks if they don't run him.

Rarran trying to gaslight Covert into thinking gnomeferatu is good is hilarious

@meanberryy

3 ай бұрын

Yeah it was always trash.

@burnsboy101

3 ай бұрын

@@meanberryywrong

@TeteteR

3 ай бұрын

Rarran explains how all the cards are either good or bad. Immediately shows a card that was in-between.

@lutokiba1098

3 ай бұрын

As far as I remember it was used in alot of warlock decks at the time so I wouldn't say it was bad.

@bdyussenov477

3 ай бұрын

So you guys forgot about those horrible days of Cube and Control Warlocks meta? That shit is still haunting me to this days 😅

23:56 I wish i was as happy about anything as Rarran is when his guests are dead wrong about something lmao

@atlanntis8064

2 ай бұрын

tbf, in magic we can always block with our creatures so a 0/3 is much better because in mtg basically all creatures have "taunt"

@Opno

2 ай бұрын

@@atlanntis8064 totally, a 0/3 with an effect in magic is potentially a great card

Loved the callback to "Wizards of the trope"!

18:05 When I heard "You couldn't concede the game" I lost it. LOL

@JoshSweetvale

2 ай бұрын

It was the last deck I ever played. MY JAWS THAT BIIITE MY CLAWS THAT CAAATCH

@TheMrCarnification

Ай бұрын

I haven't played hearstone in hears and I read it in his voice

Because it's class specific, I'm not sure Shudderwock will have killed the most people. My guess would be Leeroy as its a neutral finisher that made its way into many different classes decks

@N12015

3 ай бұрын

And was in standard for 6 years or so, including the golden age. Also, it's an aggro card, and aggro is way more common on ladder.

@hinugundamB

3 ай бұрын

I'd say fireball, it was staple in many mage decks, was the starter deck for hearthstone, and later can be taken from Zephrys.

@terinrichardson6061

3 ай бұрын

@@hinugundamB even at its most popular, mage was still probably 2/9-3/9 of the player pool. Leeroy could go in every deck. Fireball could only go in mage.

@HarrDarr

2 ай бұрын

@@terinrichardson6061 leeroy was a legendary which is way more restrictive

@calebbarnhouse496

Ай бұрын

​@@terinrichardson6061 remember leroy as a legendary means a lot less people had him, while fireballs were in everyone's mage deck, 2 of them in fact, so fireball is definitely a contender

Although I know Rarran was mostly speaking about the card’s presence within the standard format, Orion was an insanely good card in Wild when secret mage was at the top of the meta not too long ago.

@iuricunhamurakami8261

3 ай бұрын

Orion was a niche in secret mage, if you need him to win the game, the aggro/ combo deck in wild is probably winning and you need to get super lucky with your random secrets

@adriadelafuente3648

Ай бұрын

Keeps you ahead, and it's a 4 mana 5 7 if you have any secret, and the it creates mindgames are great

I haven't played HS since around when VanCleef was sent to Wild, and god damn, as a Rogue player, Covert shouting "YOUR GAME IS FUCKED UP DUDE." Is just. So gratifying.

@JoshSweetvale

2 ай бұрын

Rogue is Red/Blue. The meme 'anti-fun' card.

@zapato6071

2 ай бұрын

​@@JoshSweetvale now i wonder what colors fit every class in the game, gameplay wise

28:00 Nozdormu is also incredibly on-theme, as the Dragon Aspect of Time Police. All the Dragon colours are different kind of police. Red: Mortal Police Green: Nature Police Blue: Magic Police Bronze: Time Police Black: Corrupt Police - formerly Underground Cthulhu Police

I think Jaraxxus could have been fun to see on this list. It was really the first "hero" type card we had and even got it back in classic. Very iconic with his voice line too i feel and some funny moments with an oponents randomly getting the kill a demon warlock card that can just kill jaraxxus

Came from CGB after watching the mtga part (as as a mtga player who once played Hearthstone for some seasons). I really enjoyed them! Make more if its possible, I'll watch em all. Please more of you both! :)

@conradodeleon1354

2 ай бұрын

There is another video in cgb channel

One way I like to evaluate Ragnaros as is: 8 mana 8/8 Charge, you can't pick the target, immune while attacking. This is obviously not the exact same as its actual effect but I think for a newer player it makes it easier to visualize what it actually does: you either attack a minion for 8, which is enough to kill 90% of all minions, or you attack your opponent's face for a fourth of their health total, and most importantly you do this the SAME TURN you play it, which is what truly makes any effect like this really good. A new player might look at Ragnaros and not immediately think that it's good, but if you explain it like this and they have the entry level understanding that Charge is a borderline broken keyword they will immediately evaluate it correctly obviously this is less true for modern hearthstone, where simply having big stats on board isn't enough to win games, there's a lot more ways to interact with the opponent's board while simultaneously building your own and there's a lot more different mechanics, which is exactly why ragnaros isn't played right now (though to be fair, it's mostly because of its cost, not its effect, in fact it's actually played in decks that cheat out big minions, because it's a GREAT minion to cheat out) but the basic concept still remains

@hinugundamB

3 ай бұрын

well We all saw Rarran dies to a ragnaros played from hand last video, so he have that going for him.

@Darkprosper

3 ай бұрын

You can add "ignores Taunt" as well. Edit : and Stealth.

@rajkanishu

3 ай бұрын

@@Darkprosper true actually

@DeltownAtze

3 ай бұрын

In my opinion Ragnaros is the best legendary minion, but im also heavily biased as a wow player and it being my very first legendary card back then. To this day i still include him into almost every deck i can, only playing Wild or twist tho. Love playing paladin with the double Rags, one for healing and one for dishing out damage lol And yes, i completely agree with @rajkanishu

@Ceracio

3 ай бұрын

@@DeltownAtze Rag wasn't my first ever Legendary, that was Confessor Paletress (who is also one of my favorite legendaries), but he was my first Golden Legendary, and I immediately put him into all of my decks (including face Hunter and totem Shaman, which was terrible because Totems had virtually no support back in TGT). He remains a favorite to this day, and I wish I could play him more.

5:52 can confirm, my preferred playstyle is control and trying to play any control deck that wasn’t just ‘better tikatus warlock’ was a miserable experience while that card was legal.

I love these kind of videos with different card games whether you are guessing or quizzing. They are fascinating either way and I love to see how knowledge transfers between each game. Covert has been great as well and i hope you keep bringing him back! Keep up the great work!

I wanted to say, as someone who never really played Hearthstone (maybe 12 hours total ~6 years ago) your channel has been the most entertaining way to engage with it. The way you help people who aren't so familiar and bring in guests is really awesome.

sadly rarran didn't mention that rogue winrate skyrocketed to hell in early days if they had a coin, from like 41 to 55+

@thomash341

3 ай бұрын

He also didn’t mention that Edwin used to have stealth.

@Slaanash

2 ай бұрын

@@thomash341 oh christ I forgot about that lmao

Hello Mr. Rarran. I am almost certain that leeroy has killed more enemies than Shudderwock!

@rasmusforchhammer9557

3 ай бұрын

A lot more probably

@eroslampitella2629

3 ай бұрын

pretty sure some random pirate has killed more enemies than shudderwock

@calebwilkie2200

3 ай бұрын

I thought for sure he was going to say Leroy lol. I don’t even know if Leroy is the actual answer but it’s more believable than Shudderwock imo.

@MrDevilRays

3 ай бұрын

Maybe Shudderwock caused more uninstalls, but Leeroy definitely ended more games

@amethonys2798

3 ай бұрын

The thing with Shudder as well is RARELY does he ever kill you. I played a decent amount in the witchwood and you knew you lost probably at least a turn prior to him getting played so you simply conceded to get on with your life ahead of time since they've already resolved the prerequisites and there is a very high chance they already have Shudder in hand.

13:17 I'll mention for Implosion that part of the reason "2-Plosions" as they were referred to was so frustrating is because the card was so above curve compared to what else was out at the time that you HAD to play it in your Warlock aggro deck. 16:38 I'll echo the chorus and say it was also Leeroy. Between the Handlock, Power Overwhelming + Leeroy + Faceless Manipulator, Miracle Rogue Leeroy, Shadowstep, Shadowstep (along with Cold Blood/Prep/Eviscerate) and even some more niche ones (Leeroy, Rockbiter, Windfury for instance) he was just the finisher in everything including aggro decks like Zoo and Face Hunter. 43:34 I'd argue that part of the reason it was so iconic is because it stood alone as one of the only neutral 8s worth playing in that era of Hearthstone. The fact that it continued to be one of the best 8s in the game even after multiple expansions were added is a big part of the reason it was put into the Hall of Fame if I recall.

Certified Wizards of the Trope moment

"WIZARDS OF THE TROPE" Lmao Rarr rar trying to hold in his laugh saying that goves me life

I appreciate your effort into these style of videos. These style videos are the peak of HS youtube entertainment in my opinion. I play Summoner's War: Chronicles and I think this style of videos would be so perfect for that game, especially since lots of the playerbase comes from SW: Sky Arena, one is real time action and the other is turn based... it'd be a great concept to pull in viewers from both audiences, but damn it sounds like high effort, I'm not sure I wannna put in that effort. I appreciate that you do, though, Rarran. ^_^

The line, "I remember how I have to talk to you." is the funniest shit to me idk why. Just the thought that Rarran is getting rep for anyone that has been around him for more than a video is really funny.

These are always a riot, no matter if it's evaluating MTG or Hearthstone. Especially, as Covert said, when you also go into some history and story behind the cards. Phenomenal content, keep at it!

Tinkmaster Overspark in its random form was also played in Shockadin, and Baku Paladin, because transforming a your dude on turn 3 into a 5/5 won the game on the spot.

I saw shudderwock and I could already listen "My jaws that bite, my claws that catch" repeated 15 times in my head

@titusfortunus2916

Ай бұрын

Sorry, did you mean MY JAWS THAT BITE.. MY CLAWS THAT CATCH! -seven different spell casting sfx- MYMYJAWSJAWSTHATTHATBITEBITE..MYMYCLAWSCLAWSTHATTHATCATCHCATCH!!! -Rumbling sound effect- MY JAWS THAT BITE... MY CLAWS THAT CATCH!

I really hope there will be a part 2 of this. There are things that could be brought up like Majordomo, Elwynn Boar, Maestra, Cho, Justicar, Tentacles for Arms... I wonder what his takes would be on cards like these, or anything "wacky"

Thank you so much for leaving the digression in. Those moments are what makes your show great.

This video is one of my favorites so far. Classic HS was such a good time, it's really fun to remember all the callbacks!

Fun fact: Nozdormu used to refresh your turn timer when he left the board, as well be consistently odd on how he works due to a lot of bugs lol. Naturally they removed that refresh feature

I loved his reaction to Shudderwock, please invite him to play wild together with the wild version! The Reno Highlander is pretty op and he can get some clips with Mutanus too

my guy out here forgetting that 'audio amplifier' exists thinking warlock is the only way to increase hand size.

@shlabedeshlub3334

3 ай бұрын

He said that it's the first one not the only one

god damnit i love this collab!!! i will always watch the full video with these two.

@stevenperez4497

3 ай бұрын

i just wish u guys would hav ur cam on so its not a voice call.

“There is no middle ground”… “I would put this card in the middle”

Nomi also saw play in murloc paladin, because it turns out when your whole deck except your combo is draw and you have 2 cards that put 7 minions on the board, you deck yourself out super fast (you could proc nomi on 7) and the 3rd wave of 6/6 was enough to finish off an opponent usually, because they'd be at like 12 and couldn't remove a couple of elementals. The other funny part about that deck is zephrys, which is a highlander card but the deck ran a few duplicates, but as it turns out when you don't have any cards in your deck you don't have duplicates, and zephrys usually was just a 6 mana fireball and that was good enough (or sometimes 2 mana get a pyroblast)

@ZaItan1

Ай бұрын

Oh yeah! Good times with Anyfin. Not very interactive, but unique and fun nonetheless. Thank you for the memories

i really like the rating hearthstone cards! please keep it up!

I love CGB thinking about mid and lower level players brewing and trying cards. I also love Rarren talking about hearthstone clips because he’s totally right , I only remember the iconic cards that have insane moments like babbling book or rag like he said

CovertGoBlue needs to play some Hearthstone, I would abosultely watch it! Watching Voxy play was also so much fun!

Magic actually has an old card that functions like Mayor Noggenfogger, called Grip of Chaos. It didn't affect attacking, since attacking doesn't target, but it caused all spells and abilities that have a target to randomly select its targets from among all legal targets.

Here from the CGB Dojo! Awesome to see CGB and Rarran doing more content together! You're cool! 😎👍

Man, I really wish you'd pulled up Deathstalker Rexxar. His hero power felt SO game changing and is still so fun to use, concocting a beast that NOBODY has ever seen before with a wacky mix of effects was so damn fun.

22:05 I remember during the C'thun era, there were some heavy control match ups where the warrior would use Thaurissan and basically play Cthun then shield slam it. This guaranteed that it died, allowing them to then play Brann and this other battlecry that would add a dead Cthun back to your deck, which then adds two. There was a game where a player decided not to do this and his Cthun was hit by the Tinkmaster, meaning no two extra cthuns and thus he lost. 28:00 Nozdormu broke the game a few times and became an instant win because your opponent's turns were skipped. So technically, it was so overpowered that they had to nerf it.

When nozdormu showed up, i was hoping youd remember the life coach tourny xd

My friend has a couple decks that if you let them get out of control, the triggers he has to keep up with would go longer than that 15 sec. He is not tsking long turns at times because of thinking, on some of it, he is trying to keep up with the triggers. One time his elf deck had him also keeeping up with triggers each opponents turns too, so he ended up that game not having any time between his turns to do anything but try to resolve the triggers, and all of us couldn't find an answer for this ever growing board state. His Zeffai thunder conductor deck has him trying to track number of spells, and copies and just so many things on the stack, I can't explain enough how often he has come close to decking himself from his own triggers in that.

God I love this guy and I love your chemistry, you should have him on weekly :D

Orion , Mansion Manager is still played in wild secret mage(very good card) , the problem in standard when it appeared was the secret pool being to small and not enough support to cheat them out

13:45 *Epic Sax Guy starts playing*

I need more of this series! I love it.

I really like the idea of this episode, iconic and wacky cards are so much fun to see

Honestly, just one of the most hilarious reviews ever. Pls more!

Since CovertGoBlue is an MTG player who almost never thinks about Hearthstone (which is what makes this series so fun), I think he really overrates continuous abilities on small minions. In Magic, you often have to spend a card to get rid of an annoying weenie, or alternatively, the annoying weenie can choose to block a big creature, at its controller's discretion. But in Hearthstone, all it costs to kill a 1/2 is to hit it with a 2/2. That's a pretty low opportunity cost.

At 21:30 covert says hes scammed by the templating but MtG has the same templating issue with Blood Moon lol. Hes right that on creatures it usually specifies ability loss.

Another thing with Imp-losion is back in the day if you got the 4 damage it can just win you the game on the spot, simply due to how powerful tempo and having board control was back then

regarding Orion, Mansion Manager, he sees a lot of play in highlander mage decks currently, so while at the time he was released he wasn't played and was considered a bad card, there's enough secrets in the standard pool to make him a good value option to fill out a singleton deck.

@titusfortunus2916

Ай бұрын

Yep! Even if only one secret procs, it becomes "4 mana 5/7 cast a random secret for free".

Love seeing you two interact!

Always enjoy these videos with people from other games!

This was a blast, fun guest 🤘

That shudderwock conversation had me dying 😂

@AvocadoTheBugCat

3 ай бұрын

Would’ve been great if they pulled up a video to watch together of how everyone was griefing games on day 1 of release and delaying games as long as possible with it 💀

Dredging definitely made effects like gnomeferatu more useable even if they're still not good. I'll always remember the time I barely lost against a big beast hunter deck because they played the "fill your opponent's hand with bananas" monkey right after I dredged for odin and left me just short on damage to finish him off before he drew the "revive your big beasts" spell.

lifecoach is still taking an eternity to do anything in slay the spire, i have no idea how people have the patience to watch him lol

43:20 Can't believe you didn't mention that it used to just hit something random :D Spending your entire turn just to be hitting yourself in the face was so funny xD

I rewatch that world championship match like once a year, it was dope.

I always love Blue's energy with Rarran in these, 10/10 yes please

The card that killed the most players is going to be an aggro card long before it is ever a control card. Not only is aggro more common on ladder, but you are going to concede A LOT of games before Shudder even gets to kill you since you know it is doomed 3 turns prior. I would argue Steady Shot (yes the hunter hero power) has killed more people than Shudder and it isn't even close.

These kind of card reviews are awesome, I would really like to see these people like play a round of dungeon run or something where you're kind of coaching them very slightly. Don't know if there's a magic the gathering version of dungeon run but if there is then they could do the same for you. You do that one and they coach you very slightly. Would be really cool to see how well each person does in that

I love these videos. A suggestion for a future video would be do all the quests to see which ones he thinks are good

Sadly, Rarran didn't mention the cool fact about Nozdormu, it used to reset your turn timer when it enters the board, so there was a combo in wild that abused that to make an infinite turn. Just to be clear the card that SHORTENS your turn was used to EXTEND your turn infinitely.

As a magic and hs player i forgot how cool Hs effects are. Major was used by Dane to fuck up Raza/Anduin combo 😂that shit was hilarious

Magic have dark confidant 09:45. Yeah it have to live, but that's much easier in mtgm

@ClamsCEDH

3 ай бұрын

covert wants to marry Bob Maher xd

I really enjoy the content with covertgoblue. Pls more of it. :)

Love your collabs with this guy

Love the collabs with CGB!!

I would love an episode of this, where you just go through a bunch of the various Dragons with Covert.

regadring Tickatus, it was meta warping when combined with pre nerfed Y'sharrj when adding corrupted cards back to your hand made them cost 0 mana, and unless you played an extremely specific type of card generation at the time, you were basically playing with 10-15 card decks because of how disgustingly busted the combo was, it was an auto loss for many of the non aggro classes at the time, and was so dominant in win rate ON ITS OWN (the deck archetype had a fairly mediocre winrate of ~51%) but the winrate of Tickatus was like 96%+ it's the reason why blizzard haven't printed another 'mill' type card that has no opponent interaction at all.

@AidanL17

3 ай бұрын

Y'shaarj the Defiler was never nerfed.

@rogoth01themasterwizard11

3 ай бұрын

@@AidanL17 yes he was, for a time he was nerfed to not reduce the cost of the cards given back, they would retain their original mana cost, all he did was give them back to your hand, it was unnerfed when he rotated out of standard and into wild.

@laughsinmicroscopic6522

3 ай бұрын

@@rogoth01themasterwizard11 Which patch? I've combed through several patch notes and haven't seen a single instance of Y'sharrj the Defiler getting nerfed. And I doubt it ever got nerfed since Tickatus lock had a winrate of under 45% in Top 1000 Legend while it was in standard.

@rogoth01themasterwizard11

3 ай бұрын

@@laughsinmicroscopic6522 shortly before that rotation cycle, his card and a few other 'pain points' for the community saw nerfsas I stated above, the Y'sharrj nerf was to remove the mana cheat effect of his battlecry, when rotated into wild, blizzard undid his nerf back to the default effect he had at launch, and as I stated above, while the actual deck played had an almost perfect AVERAGE winrate, the winrate of the deck when tickatus was played in corrupted form was more than 80%, it was so high that no card since has come close to such a ridiculous winrate percentage of a single card. and just as an aside, last time I checked 'top 1000 legend' is not even remotely close to representative of the total playerbase, which is why looking exclusively at that sort of data to justify any kind of card changes is both asinine and futile, only in the rare circumstances that a card is so egregious it affects all brackets of play but especially the highest bracket does that justify nerfs to cards.

@AidanL17

3 ай бұрын

@@rogoth01themasterwizard11 None of this ever happened, you're experiencing the Mandela effect. I checked the patch notes before posting my initial comment, because I couldn't remember Y'shaarj ever receiving a single change, and it hasn't. That card was the core of my favorite Shaman OTK deck ever, and I played it just about every day for its time in standard, except for during Barrens between the rotation of Corrupt the Waters and the addition of Bolner Hammerbeak.

These videos are so good, love it

I do think I ran Imp-losion in a Zoolock deck way back when I was still playing. (man has it really been close to 10 years since I played?) The benefit of it in a Zoolock was usually that you were getting a kinderegg - three effects at once - some damage, then at least 2 minions. And when you want to have a lot of disposable minions it's not bad. But, also not amazing.

@JoshSweetvale

2 ай бұрын

It's essentially "Deal 3, summon 3 1-1's" - and as long as you do it as the first thing in your turn, you can play around the randomness. Trade in another minion. Or if you got lucky, _don't_ play a weenie this turn and tap instead.

34:00 NAHHH, you did him dirty. There was definitely a time where Orion was up there in most annoying cards in the meta. I remember he was played in 80% of secret mages. It would snowball like crazy

I've got to say, your crossovers with MTG got me into MTG Arena.

Noggenfogger CAN hit you and your own minions.- for fun wild player.

@Rarran

3 ай бұрын

I could swear that if you attack with one of your minions, it makes the attack random but it still has to be legal, so you cannot attack your own minions with a minions attack. But if you use a a spell it can target anything on board. This is how I explained to him

@rajkanishu

3 ай бұрын

​@@Rarran this is mostly true, but it's inconsistent, some effects can only pick eligible targets and some just ignore the rule, I never really figured out why that's the case

@rhinoman8586

3 ай бұрын

Yeah I have no idea. I play noggenfogger/nozdormu big priest and it's just chaos so i could be wrong. It could be because i usually have multiple copies of him on board at once.

@schalaay

3 ай бұрын

@@Rarran This is correct, for the record. Noggenfogger makes a random selection out of all legal targeting options (with the exception that minions can go face even if they were summoned this turn). He cannot cause your minions to attack your own side of the board.

@1q34w

3 ай бұрын

​@@schalaaycan't they also ignore taunt?

I recall the Aviana + mana refresh druid deck where you could cheat out like 5 Ragnaros'. Possibly one of my favorite combo decks ever.

I have no idea what hearthstone cards do, my brain just kinda turns off when looking at them, but I always love videos like this, so fun just making someone guess if cards are good or not idk.

9:45 this is essentially etb you become the monarch; you cant lose the monarch. in magic, that'd be like, a 4 mana legendary permanent at least be on rate, and it might still see play at 5 depending on the permanent type / color / stats

The Wizards of the Trobe clip is the peak of Rarran content xD

While better for the game, Nozdormu also use to reset the turn timer when removed, so if you could find a way to replay/resummon him and remove him during the same turn, you could potentially hold a player hostage // have infinite time to play your time (or until Blizzard shuts down the servers, or if they have a kill timer for games, as I know some other Blizzard games auto-kill games that last like 10+ hours).

Man I miss hearthstone. Last time I played, NAXX OUT was the current meme

I'll never forget when I was playing against a friend from college and sniped his best creature with Tinkmaster. He was seething.

I love his reaction to Nozdormu. I still run it in my deck. Better options but it sends a message and throws people off. Hurry up!

sickk hope titans are later, good planeswalker analogy

Love your collabs with CGB

“I’m remembering his I have to talk to you” is a sentence that could be so rude in most other situations

Nat pagle is a special card for me. It was my first legendary on my first ever pack I use to play in every deck. After the nerf I dusted but in the next day after that i got a gold version from a arena pack and I still have in my colection.

Big fan of the unintentional Shudderwock analysis