Love the idea of having dark magic work like political radicalization. Too often dark magic is treated like compulsive need to be evil instead of an erosion of morality.

@Captain_Wet_Beard

5 жыл бұрын

The way he explains it makes perfect sense

@atibavvdaze3726

5 жыл бұрын

burger is a genius

@florbengorben7651

5 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah. I once thought up a fantasy concept where a floating magic city home to only wizards (because they made it) fell and was lost because some people started practicing "dark" magic which wasn't much different except they used undead and basically created ghost slaves and that fucked up everything bc politics.

@kryptickodex3846

3 жыл бұрын

FF did well that in regards to black mages.

@dallasjayden582

2 жыл бұрын

you all probably dont give a shit but does someone know of a method to log back into an Instagram account? I was dumb lost my login password. I appreciate any tips you can give me.

"There's no such thing as magic in the real world" Sounds like something a closeted sorcerer would say.

@adrianavillacis9998

4 жыл бұрын

Very good joke.

@theanarchonazbolinquisition

4 жыл бұрын

@@adrianavillacis9998 I presume you are one too?

@adrianavillacis9998

4 жыл бұрын

@@theanarchonazbolinquisition hahahahaha I wish😁😁

I like the idea that mages translate magic into spells for wizards by studying sorcerers.

Psh, just go Warlock. All powerful might at your command. At the price of your soul usually, maybe eternal servitude. But, details.

@animorph17

5 жыл бұрын

A warlock is just a cleric who gets power something they don't normally call a god.

Goku is a sorcerer. Goku is a sorcerer. Goku is a sorcerer. Goku is a sorcerer. Goku is a sorcerer. (INTERNAL SCREAMING)

I really like the idea of magic being languages that can be learned and used.

I think the best lore reason one could come up with to make necromancy ACTUALLY evil instead of just a silly taboo, is going on this idea that occasionally pops up where raising a zombie means plucking that person's soul out of their afterlife, locking them into the horrific, painful existence of a rotted corpse, and then mind controlling them. That way necromancy does hurt people, it's just hard to tell because it only hurts dead people. What's especially great about this is how easily one can subvert it, IE: repair the body enough that it's not flayed skin on rotting bones and then the soul you shove back into their corpse probably won't be in pain. And simply leave out the step where you forcibly mind control them, to where no getting the zombie to work with you is a matter of diplomacy and making deals. Ethical necromancy even in a world where all necromancy is inherently harmful. Alternatively I somewhat enjoy DnD's take, where the magic itself isn't evil for any essential reason nor a matter of mortal perspective. Rather magic is just magic, and the gods decide what they think should be allowed or banned, and just call the stuff they don't like "Evil" so they can feel justified in smiting people who use it. Necromancy gets lumped into this not because of any particular harm it does to the mortal, but rather because the souls of dead people /belong/ to the gods (or so the gods keep insisting) and necromancy is yoinking those souls away like a little thief. Gods don't like having their property stolen, so of course they put a ban on the type of magic dedicated to stealing their property.

@principleshipcoleoid8095

5 жыл бұрын

I also like "Of undead and Understanding" Ashtahan, gray necromancer. He created mindless undead from people that attacked his party/ some city ect. And he has ability to create Deathless. Deathless are people willing to throw away afterlife for the ability to live again. They retain free will. Most of them are just guards, who's feeling of duty doesn't end after death. As a plus, mindless undead don't attack them.

@j2dragon109

5 жыл бұрын

Isn’t necromancy hurting souls standard stuff?

@principleshipcoleoid8095

5 жыл бұрын

@@j2dragon109 is it thou? I don't think mindless skeletons and zombies need a soul to begin with. Ghousts and some advansed undead probably need them thou.

@animorph17

5 жыл бұрын

@J2Dragon the original lore behind necromancy is that the spirits of the dead exist at all points in time simultaneously, and can casually look into the past or future. So roman rituals into necromancy took advantage of this by finding ways for the ghost of a dead thing to talk to you and tell you what's going to happen. The DnD lore though? It keeps flipping back and forth depending on what spell you're using, how you're using it, and what story that particular module wants to tell. All without giving players access to these rules and mechanics. MOST undead aren't conscious at all and simply act as a negative energy construct. It's literally just a robot with "Evil" energy working like electricity, and a rotted corpse acting as the hardware. Other necromancy stuff involves trapping ghosts, plucking people from the afterlife, or calling the original spirit back into it's now rotting body. But that isn't standard.

@rolay7730

2 жыл бұрын

@@j2dragon109 Eh, sometimes. But also no? Look at this spell in 5e. Speak With Dead 3rd level necromancy Casting Time: 1 action Range: 10 feet Target: A corpse of your choice within range Components: V S M (Burning incense) Duration: 10 minutes Classes: Bard, ClericYou grant the semblance of life and intelligence to a corpse of your choice within range, allowing it to answer the questions you pose. The corpse must still have a mouth and can’t be undead. The spell fails if the corpse was the target of this spell within the last 10 days. Until the spell ends, you can ask the corpse up to five questions. The corpse knows only what it knew in life, including the languages it knew. Answers are usually brief, cryptic, or repetitive, and the corpse is under no compulsion to offer a truthful answer if you are hostile to it or it recognizes you as an enemy. This spell doesn’t return the creature’s soul to its body, only its animating spirit. Thus, the corpse can’t learn new information, doesn’t comprehend anything that has happened since it died, and can’t speculate about future events. So you can even make an intelligent undead spirit without the soul? I think that means that it is just a copy of someone's soul made from magic? So theoretically, if someone is a ghost and actively attacking you, you should still be able to cast this spell on their actual dead body and get answers from it. I think. I know it sounds weird, but I have no idea what else "This spell doesn’t return the creature’s soul to its body, only its animating spirit." could mean.

Sorcerers would probably be very individualistic, because they don't have to adhere to a tradition to learn their thing.

this is my version Wizard: A wizard needs to learn the spells through a book, language or a scroll but need a weapon like a wand or staff to cast it. Sorceror: They are born with magic and DO NOT need a weapon they can cast spells with their hands but most of the time only born with one style magic that what makes a wizard unique that they can learn more but need an object but sorcerer has less but constantly channel energy. But some fantasy makes sorcerers learn other types a.k.a Skyrim perhaps. Mage: Writes their own magic, example harry potter Snape and Voldemort. SKYRIM: Skyrim however is a sorceror not a mage unless they do something which you can write spells but shows the reason why sorcerers carry staffs because it helps them regain magicka while using another source of energy but a wizard only has a object, without it a wizard is useless but a sorceror is not. Sorcerors can get tired while keep on casting and needs an artefact help the most times. Also depends on the power. What about an enchanter, its a type of magic not a caster. what about a necromancer that's also called necromancing which is a type of magic not a caster. Two types of casters Soceror and wizard then a writer of magic a mage. And again the wizard needs to hold an object and learn, socerors are born to one specific magic type but some may learn off others and don't need a weaop..... oh fuck it a sorceror is more powerful than a wizard and a mage sorceror is just pain god himself the end.

This is like watching drunk history: RPG

I know this was a year ago I just need to say something , wizards spend years learning magic to cast it with a wand or staff , sorcerers are born with magic and learn to control it , mages study these sorcerers to make magic spells for wizards to learn and warlocks get there magic from entity’s commonly from demons

So I have a different system for you to not care about Burger. Actually my entire system has everyone being like one of your mages in one way or another. Really though the rolls are differentiated by how a magic user interacts with their magic, rather than how intuition based a magic system is. Check it. You have Artificers, who themselves are non-magical but who have the ability to create magic items. If they want to shoot someone with a lightning bolt, they need to carve runes or draw a fancy looking circle. Their power doesn't come from anything innate or fancy wandwork, or twerking naked under a full moon; but rather from engineering structures that change the flow of magic, much like how a dam can be engineered to divert a river. Artificers are limited by their knowledge and what tools they have available, but have the advantage that their magic is technology and can be used not just by them but by their allies as well. Next you've got Wizards, who are magic and can use their knowledge of magic to create the effects that they want. Strictly speaking the knowledge could be either your mage kind of knowledge or your wizard kind of knowledge. What really maters is that a Wizard's powers depend primarily on their book learnin' above anything else for their magic. Wizards are the most versatile in that they can prepare for a wide variety of situation and so long as they have their books or a sharp memory they need little to actually cast with. Finally you've got Sorcerers, who feel the ebb and flow of magic and use their intuition and raw power to bend reality to their will. They may learn from their training or from books, but at the end of the day it's more about their strength and technique than anything particularly intellectual. I would expect Sorcerers to be the most specialized of this list, because they would likely need significant time to train in a new domain of magic, but within each domain they can build off of their prior knowledge of the domain. Additionally they don't require wands, special materials, or tons of books, making them the most self-sufficient caster on my list. As something kinda separate from the rest you have Warlocks, who manipulate magic not with their own learned or innate power and skill, but with the power and skill granted to them by another magical being. These can be deals struck with devils, boons granted by fay, or even prayers answered by gods. All are magic granted by another and used for the Warlock's purpose. A Warlock can function in the same way as a Wizard (reciting summoning rituals or divine scripture, or citing ¶512, §D.iv of "The Amending Agreement for the Limited Usage of Targath the Destroyer(LLC)'s Unholy Fire™") or as a Sorcerer (a bonded familiar enhancing your senses or carrying out your unconscious will, or even a limited form of possession) or even as an Artificer (binding spirits to totems or trinkets) but they are different in that their ability to wield magic comes from another individual and could potentially be taken away. Now for the subversion. Magic is computers. Artificers are those who solder wires onto chips stuff them into some pvc or onto a 3d printed rig and turn a bunch of wires and chips into something that actually does something. They make golems out of metal and rubber that run and fly, that make it easy for muggles to get out to the country for an afternoon, that take your money in exchange for that iced mocha, that build other kinds of golems, even golems that can think (kinda). Wizards are those who can make some gestures with their hands (and a keyboard and mouse) and use their knowledge (and the infinite library we all have access to all the time) to do all kinds of things, from setting up a server, to pulling money out of the ether, to knowing where you are at all times, to controlling what you can see and tell other people, to knowing your thoughts and preferences better than you do, to ... to.. um ... So... Warlocks are those who make deals with companies, generally of Wizards, to use some service of theirs, often for 'free™', probably without even knowing what's in the agreement, in exchange for something. Think your location to use their maps, or your browser history to use their social network, or everything you ever say in your living room for the convenience of buying stuff or listening to music. So... basically everybody. Sorcerers... um. Well Sorcerers are what we'd probably have if the open source movement got to the point where it was directly competing against the big tech companies. Or even cooler it'd be like technomancers from Shadowrun. But yeah no we don't have any Sorcerers. :(

The way he thinks of Sorcerers makes sense.

Necromancers would sooner or later all bunch up together and start their own state. They would get raided by their neighbours all the time, cuz peasants from borderlands would flee to them after hearing about miracle that Necrommunism brings to those lads on the other side of the funny line on the map.

I wonder if a sorcerer would have any use of becoming a wizard, maybe through further study and experimentation, sorceries could be combined with spells to achieve a greater effect. like, if you were a sorcerer with spectral hands, any spells that require touching could be done at a distance. or if you were a sorcerer that could conjure gold (maybe only temporarily), any spells that require gold as a sacrifice could be used cheaply (but also scamming whatever deity is receiving that gold if it is temporary). You could basically use sorceries to amplify the effect of spells or to satisfy components of spells.

Some people keep telling that a wizard is born with magic, and a sorcerer studies magic. But it makes more sense to be the other way around. The word wizard even means "Wise Man", and you can't really be wiser than someone who studies a lot.

Thank you so much! Such a great job making this video. It's educational and cool at the same time. THANK YOU

These really get the creative juices flowing

In my magic system, sorcerers are people who are adept at using their own life force for magic. A mage is someone who uses magic through mana.

@jeremybautista281

3 жыл бұрын

@第一GRiiM ReaPer FRoM HeLL FIRE an element (don't know the proper word) that sustains your energy to constantly use your magic.

Personally I like to divide my magic into Learned/Rote Memorization(Wizards), Borrowed (Warlocks), and Inborn (sorcerers). Learned and Inborn are the same as you described in the video. Borrowed is where a wizard or lay person goes “fuck it, this is taking to long in going to take a short cut and talk with an entity than can give me power.” That entity then gives them the power on a certain condition. The condition my be a task the entity wants done or some form of sacrifice of some kind, like a human sacrifice or a bit of you sanity, ect. Then I use those three magical power sources as circles in a ven-diagram and place class in the overlapping areas. A Cleric is in between Rote and Borrowed, they get their magic from a God but do so thou prayer and ritual.

I feel like the necromancer growing up on a cemetery would make a good magic academy harem anime.

Man, love that last part about the dark magic. That's legit the tought which inspired the main character of my 'magnum opus'.

this as a wonderful breakdown. thank you.

Gotta say love the video always looking for help with magic users in my games or stories

Creativity at work.

Omgawd you're hilarious😂💕. Eccentricity at its best. ( are we related?😂). And you use one of my favourite words... Extraneous😍. I'd so invited you to sit at my bonfire✌. I've even subscribed. … rare for me. Keep keeping it real. Waving from the Scottish Highlands💕

I can feel the WoD in the explanation of Mages

chad sorcerer VS virgin wizard

@Marinanor

4 жыл бұрын

The virgin wizard who is so powerful there are only five of them in the entire world? ;)

@CrudeConduct666

3 жыл бұрын

I think you got it backwards. Wizards are the Kings of magic

Thank you professor

I used to play a game a long long time ago that ranked the magical titles a certain way... in the end Wizard/Witch was considered the best... end game. Sorcerer was a few levels down but was considered the first level where you are the SHIT as a magic user... people should respect/fear you, but you still have much to learn as well.

So basically dr strange is a warlock/sorcerer/mage/wizard lol

Very nice video. You have a lovely style.

Meme Magic

Where are the Bards at?

@kenansabic2901

5 жыл бұрын

Same as wizards I would guess. More focused on manipulating magic in others maybe?

@TheBurgerkrieg

5 жыл бұрын

I have a Bards, Actors, Acrobats video in my notes

@Tizi1999

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheBurgerkrieg Thats great :D

I think I found a better way to describe Wizards and Mages. Mages are programmers using REALTY++, while Wizards are speed runners exploiting glitches. And I suppose Sorcerers in this metaphor has only one cheat code activated at all times, which means there's a Sorcerer stuck on Big Head Mode somewhere.

Where would bards and tricksters fall under?

'Hamelstein's 5th incantation of where the fuck is the goddamned remote Jesus Christ I always put it in the one spot and every time I look its not there' is the kind of spell name that makes me wonder what other spells are called in this universe. If you, random user of the internet, have any ideas as to what other scrolls in this hypothetical library might be called, please tell me.

So you’ve done Nature magic users, Holy combatants, Magic/Physical fighters, Classic Fighters, and now classic magic users. How about rouges? Though not every rouge is a criminal, Stealth is not a very honorable or highly looked upon skill. This could include Assassins skilled at stealthy murder, Thieves skilled at stealthy... taking things that don’t belong to them, and Infiltrators skilled at entering places undetected. Idk The twist could be those that work for higher authorities (Like Kings). Spy’s? Political assassins? Idk Just some ideas Or smooth talkers like diplomats and bards

People actually have done the whole serial killer satanic ritual human sacrifice thing just because they thought it would give them magical powers, but inevitably it just cost them a lot of time and ended up with them being executed.

Have you read comic "curse words" ? It's really good

Come on chaos magic man

7:40 - "...a lot of theory and educated guesses that leads to a lot of bickering and trial and error" ⚕ Oh, you mean the Medical community 👨‍⚕️

Soooo did you copyright that necromancer story? I really really want to write a short story or novella with that idea, but I don't want to step on your toes. Not gonna take everything, but love the idea of a necromancer coming to terms with having to use his powers.

I see sorcerers like martial artists, wizard like scientists or engineers and mages scholars, one uses a mixture movement and choreography another experiments with weird devices or obscure and magical lifeforms and the last uses ancient tomes a dead languages, that's how I liked to visualize it anyway. Really it depends on how you view magic and what it "comes from".

Have you ever considered that maybe your remote is cursed?

I can see bk becoming a necromancer

In my fantasy story, what is considered black magic has changed throughout the years. It is almost completely cultural. What is considered black magic in one place might just be seen as taboo in another.

Talent · Knowledge · Intuition

I never knew sorceress are it's own thing. I always though sorceress was a term for ANY human who uses magic. Example: wizards, mages witches, warlocks etc

I see the mages as the theorists and coders of spells ,and the wizards as the end users. So a mage might really understand the ins and outs of transmutation but a wizard just learns the specific turn people into toads spell he needs

I really like Ancient Magus Bride's use of sorcerers and mages. Slight spoilers ahead. In that series, sorcerers learn the fundamental rules of magic and reality and use their own physical energy (they often lack significant natural magic if they even have any) converting it to magic to manipulate reality within said rules. Mages, though having their own power, often rely on fae and other spirits to aid them in bending or brealing the rules of reality instead. They often use fae because using ones own magic is very taxing on the caster. For example, a sorcerer would preform alchemy via effectively chemistry and applying a specific amount of magic. A mage would use their or a fae's magic to preform it and would often use ingredients collected from fae, like mandrake spores or leaves.

more please

18:15 what's the book title?

WHM best Mage

What's this about the 4 basic types of magic? That's not represented anywhere I know of...

*I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS AMAZING VIDEO!!!* 💖🔥🌈🙏🏾🌛 It was incredibly helpful!! Very interesting and also entertaining!

Could be all of them

MAGician = Tap into the MAGnetism = White Light... Sorcerer = Taps into the SOURCE (Source-rer) Dielectric Black Light)... Wizard taps into life's WISdom... WIZE-Dome Atomic Electricity of the 7 colors... Here you have it folks... Etymology at its best... and yes... magic absolutely exists!!!

@derpherp1810

3 жыл бұрын

no it doesn't don't let pseudo scientific dogma bullshit you. If magic were real, summon a fucking dragon over New York city tomorrow and then I will buy it.

Necromany isnt even that bad in a macabre country with a high death rate, zombies could work as forces of cheap labour.

@NefariousKoel

5 жыл бұрын

"Cast A Deadly Spell" is such a great low budget movie for all it's magic-in-the-40s themes. The zombies being imported & employed as cheap labor, building suburban housing divisions, was brilliant.

@jonsnor4313

5 жыл бұрын

@@NefariousKoel I just know i think fred the zombie as rassism metaphor in nuclear family america.

@jonsnor4313

5 жыл бұрын

My friend fred was the title i am sure where a zombie labourer replaces the father.

My take on "why necromancy is evil" debate: Many of you are surely aware of the principle of sympathy in magic. As above, so below, a part represent the whole, that sort of thing. Also, there this notion of destroying a person's corpse to lay to rest its ghost. Well, what if raising a zombie or skeleton actually affects a person's soul? What if it hurts that person's soul? What if, by controlling a corpse, you indirectly take control of a soul, in some way? Not to mention that summoning and controlling ghosts of the dead essentially means enslaving the souls of the dead. Basically, necromancy might be just post-deaty slavery.

Finnaly! German Black Magic!

If you're not hurting anyone (else), what is the problem with raising the dead. See, this is why I watch Burger. for the mindmelting accidental quotes you could mine. Really, if anyone wanted to make a parody remix of stuff Burger has said, just start here.

When I was a child, I discovered by accident that I had the magical power to jump up in the air and slowly float to the ground. But this was probably because I was high as f**k on ADHD medication all the time.

On the topic of wizards and mages coexisting, why not make wizardry and magic stand to one another like chemestry to physics. Wizards use the available magical forces to react with one another and mix them a bit to become a catalyst that creates juuuust the right magic juice to throw a fireball or reanimate a corpse. And Mages dont bother with finding the right flavor of mana and instead they split it into its rawest forms. They wield magical particals and energy into actual physical forces to change the world. I see wizards as a lot more useful in this szenario but mages could probably undo wizard work with ease.

@principleshipcoleoid8095

5 жыл бұрын

Mages might be abel to use more complicated or specific spells. For example, Wizard might deal 3-10 fire damage with a fireball, while Mage does 7-9 damage. Also, why not learn both? Being able to cast more random fireball in a rush can be useful, and being able to cast fireball that deals very specific amount of damage in very specific area to kill/knock out enemies depending on a disired effect can also be useful.

A Leash? Do you mean a Litch?

@Trombi01

5 жыл бұрын

Perhaps an evil leech?

MORE MORE MORE

I like you, man.

So you're telling me sorcerers are any kind of bender or even naruto ninjas?

Sooo... Gendalf was a sourcerer?

@floridamancode_e2673

5 жыл бұрын

No Gendalf was an angel basically. Wizards in LOTR technically aren't of the race of men.

@kenansabic2901

5 жыл бұрын

@@floridamancode_e2673 Exactly, Gandalf is just an embodiment of a godlike being.

@jonsnor4313

5 жыл бұрын

He is a lesser god incarnated as mortal. And a super powerful sorcerer because of that connection.

The best part about this video is he clearly says at the beginning how controversial this all is, and what he has to say is incredibly "arbitrary". And then he goes onto describe the entire world political system. Oh, and save Galleons, Sickles, and Knuts for your children! Any good magic user would!

If you are not hurting anyone else what's the problem with raising the dead? -probably some darklord to the hero right before being destroyed

@ginge641

5 жыл бұрын

My protagonist is necromancer. It was an accident at first, but he later realised how useful it was to just make a bunch of combat mates. Extra poetic justice points if you kill someone using the corpses of their victims.

Da fuck is a lease? Do you mean lich?

I’d be a rock sorcerer. I could transform shit into weights to help me train martial arts. Also your own beach cave. ❤️. Then power to sorc your house up. Add rooms. Move rooms, etc. And the dark side? Make rock grow slowly around people. Keeping them in place. Maybe very slowly crush them. To get info. Or better yet. Become the governments dark jailor. “Jailing” everyone into the ground/stone.

Hemomancy

Yes! More of this! I like your creative stuff, the political stuff cringe.

What game are u talking about here? or just a rough idea for everything. EDIT: ah ok.

I wanna play a table top with you. T_T

me who read on magician wikipedia for one minute 😎

So you're saying mages are the centrists of magic users?

I am here because I can not figure what type of caster is Yennefer from "the witcher" and I'm still confuzed...

@xRisg1

4 жыл бұрын

She would be a wizard, since she studied and learned how to cast spells. Consider also that in the witcher lore wizards use natural sources of mana to charge themselves, ex: underground stream of water (the whole djiin stuff happened in the first place cause she wanted an unlimited and portable source of mana)

@zzzzzzzz3454

4 жыл бұрын

@@xRisg1 Yeah, but she doesn't have a wand or a staff and also, (in the netflix seires) she made a portal to aretuza without knowing anything about magic

@xRisg1

4 жыл бұрын

@@zzzzzzzz3454 wizards in the books use elf incantations and use their hand to make gestures to use specifics spells, the system was originaly from elves and was something more like shaman magic, I dont remember if they do use wands in the lore, and I dont really remember reading about the portal.

@zzzzzzzz3454

4 жыл бұрын

@@xRisg1 K, thanks!

Hey im a virgin at 19 so i guess im a mage novice, i hope i dont become a wizard

@slugrag

5 жыл бұрын

Don't worry dude you'll be a muggle before you know it

Metal magic = ferroumancy

@ginge641

5 жыл бұрын

Or Allomancy, Feruchemy and Hemalurgy.

So naruto's characters are sorcerers😂

You can’t possibly speak system agnostically about ttrpg magic

@TheBurgerkrieg

5 жыл бұрын

I can and I have

Pff magic isn't real? Maybe not in the geeky way. Check out "Liber Null & Psychonaut" by Peter J Carroll. Magic is a school of philosophy.

@bishop7954

5 жыл бұрын

Lmfa0. Trash

4 minutes into sorcerers and I think you have a very limited view of magic and a bad memory. Didn't you already do wizards and witches and what not or am I remembering things wrong?

"There's no such thing as magic in the real world" ?? says who magic is very real and very poorly misunderstood and woefully under defined dont mix it with miracles even tho thats exactly what its sold to be true magic is not miraculous

If you could just stop mixing in jokes, that would be awesome.