Although a lifelong WW2 history buff, I never heard of these retro bombs. Thanks!

@TRUMP_WAS_RIGHT_ABOUT_EVRYTHNG

Жыл бұрын

he does find some rare / odd ww2 items!

@davidmurphy8190

Жыл бұрын

Oh yes. I had a professor at university who had worked at Harvard in WW2 and worked on defense projects in ASW and ECM.

@dfirth224

7 ай бұрын

These were not as good as the FIDO homing torpedoes.

I was the inflight ordnanceman in VP-10 for five years on P-3C Orion's. Lots of great memories.

@dukecraig2402

Жыл бұрын

They still use the Orion don't they? I think I remember reading where it's one of the 50+ year operational US aircraft alongside the B52 and several others.

@roberthutchins1507

Жыл бұрын

Do we know each other? I was an AW in vp10 from 75 to 80, and again in the mid 90's.

@Chris_at_Home

Жыл бұрын

My older brother was in VP-10 as an AO from 63-67. He flew in both P-2s and P-3s. I was an AX in VP-23 from 72-75.

@roberthutchins1507

Жыл бұрын

@@Chris_at_Home Those were the good old days. I can still member putting the aqa7 modules in the fridge to cool them down😁And don't forget the tape recorders that got so hot they melted the tape!

@Chris_at_Home

Жыл бұрын

@@roberthutchins1507 That damn tape recorder was heavy. I used to carry it myself and pissed the airframes guys off when I broke a few steps. They were good times. In 1973 I went on Unitas 14. That was a busy year, I also did 4 months in Sigonella with a few side trips to Souda Bay and Rota. I was a ground pounder that went about everywhere they needed to bring one from the AT shop. Got to go on some patrols and I remember one where we left smokes on the water from the mad. My older brother was loading the big magnesium flares on a P-2. This was done standing on a flatbed truck. They all started shooting him at once and put him in the hospital for 10 months. I remember they called my parents and said if you want to see you son alive you better get here fast. We lived in eastern Ct. and my dad hauled ass, got stopped once and the cops radioed ahead to let him fly in his big Ford wagon with the 428. One of the flight engineers in our squadron was a 2nd Mech in my brother’s squadron then and saw my brother stumble out of the white smoke. We both came to Alaska over 40 years ago.

I LOVE the PBY Catalina It looks so prehistoric, like a pterodactyl...

@JTA1961

Жыл бұрын

I like how their wing floats crank up when not needed

I really appreciate your ability to find all this information and present it so succinctly.

Bravo! I've found some of these references myself and intend to visit CalTech where all of the rocket work was done in WWII. However, only half of the documents survived the war. The B-18 pics are awesome, I read of those but never saw them. Finally, there is a book written by the survivors/family of VP-63 available titled, "MAD Cats The Story of VP-63" Warning, it is a work of love and respect, not a technical report, nor a novel. /vr Don

Amazing that these tactics, weapons and detection devices were developed so early on.

@stevepirie8130

11 ай бұрын

I had no clue about sonobuoys, homing torpedos or retro firing rocket depth charges were that early either.

@dfirth224

7 ай бұрын

@@stevepirie8130They were kept secret after the war because they did not want the Russians to know they had them.

Again, your level of documentation, delivery, and concise information is quite good. I really liked the ‘Mad Cat’ Squadron patch.

Great stuff. Love how you go right to primary, period sources for these videos.

I'm liking this new aspect of the series. Thanks!!

Japan had a decent late-war MAD set-up where the aircraft automatically released dye and smoke markers when the return signal reached it's strongest, so theoretically when it was directly over the target sub. They could also have it deploy depth bombs in unison with the markers.

Thanks for another great video!

Keep this series coming, I am thoroughly enjoying it, good work.

Fascinating. I imagine a captain’s debrief wasn’t a brief meeting at all.

We had the S-2 Viking ASW jet onboard our Carrier.. when they landed every now and then they would accidentally eject a Sonabouy from the rack in the belly .. it would go sliding down the angle deck …not sure how much one of those cost …

Thank you for posting

Thanks for the video!!! So glad I subbed!

Another excellent video thanks for all your hard work👍🇭🇲

wow. so comprehensive....thanks so much, your fan in Orlando, /Florida, Paul

Great video...👍

This video has some fasinating content.

Pretty amazing info here!

You sir, are a genius!

Very good video will be checking your channel out.

Right up to the disestablishment of Naval Reserve P-3 Squadrons, there was still a VP-60, VP-64, VP-65, and VP-66. VP-62 is still around, thank the Lord.

Very interesting & well researched. I've not seen any photos of retro-fired markers installed on the MAD PBY's. Maybe they were not actually deployed in service?

NOW! I see "WHY" Grampa who "Almost Never" talked much about his WWII service in Florida and alike went to WORK for NASA after the war, but he was proud of working on sea planes in the battle for the Atlantic and our Shipping.

Quite interesting! It is not al that surprising that this did not work all that well in that the aircraft had to get really close for it top detect a submarine and thus the chances of a direct overflight are pretty low.

@phinhager6509

Жыл бұрын

It's only needed for the final kill. You find the submarine by picking up either its sail or its snorkel on the radar, and if it sees you too soon and dives, you use this to kill it.

@roberthutchins1507

Жыл бұрын

You're sorta right and sorta wrong in your understanding. MAD is primarily a tracking device not a detection device. However, MAD was/is monitored in areas of high probability on the off chance of getting a random MAD contact.

@phinhager6509

Жыл бұрын

@@roberthutchins1507 wouldn't it pick up all kinds of false positives? MAD is regularly used to find metal deposits and GM had a program in the 50s and 60s where they were using it as an alternative to radar/lidar for self driving cars, and were picking up pedestrians with it - any abnormality in the Earth's crust, any shipwreck, maybe even a school of fish or a whale or even a temperature differential between currents could set it off.

@roberthutchins1507

Жыл бұрын

@@phinhager6509 The MAD sensor isn't that sensitive. It requires several tons of material to detect a disruption in the magnetic field. Shortly after the war, MAD was used in exploration of mineral deposites on the ocean floor, but was primarily used by oil companies for finding oil deposits

@phinhager6509

Жыл бұрын

@@roberthutchins1507 I see. It would make sense that there are MADs dialed in for doing different things. I know that they were being used to find veins of ore dating back at least into the 19th century.

more like the strait of Jabroni!

1:22 according to this graph, the best tactic would be to submerge and turn the diesel to full astern as soon as not observable and dive backwards. And after you're well behind the submersion point, switch to electric to avoid making any noise.

@aussiviking604

Жыл бұрын

​@@kiereluurs1243 Snorkel.

@patrickshaw8595

Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure you could reverse a WWII Kreigsmarine sub on diesel power. Only two ways of doing it would be A) a gearbox having reverse. B) Many marine diesels could be shut off and restarted in reverse. Never heard of either of those features in those subs. If I was the designer - no more than astern power is needed - I would just use the giant DC electric motors for that.

@RubenKelevra

Жыл бұрын

@@patrickshaw8595 IIRC they reversed the diesel engines. U-2331 was lost because of diving while traveling in reverse. But my idea was more about reversing as soon as beeing level under water.

@patrickshaw8595

Жыл бұрын

@@RubenKelevra I will read up on Kreigsmarine subs and U-2331 in particular, thanks.

Is M.A.D. dropped in current planes?

@womble321

Жыл бұрын

No some aircraft use it. Initially it used the detector from German magnetic mines accidentally dropped in areas accessible at low tide. Someone thought of using them in reverse. Apparently a huge problem was the number of sunken ships in the sea near Gibraltar. Attacks would only be attempted if it was proved the target was moving. That's why the markers were used. They showed if the target was actually moving.

@roberthutchins1507

Жыл бұрын

MAD is a non deployable sensor in much the same way as radar is. You can think of it as a free gimbaled gyro, that remains oriented to the earth's natural magnetic field. Large metal objects cause a slight disruption in that field, causing the gimbaled sensor to move slightly, and displays that disruption in the magnetic field to the operator.

@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935

Жыл бұрын

The new Boeing 737 based Poseidon P-8 plane has no M.A.D.

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Note: not including nuclear depth bombs. 😂

New tactic on me. Just proves what the boffins can come up with when under pressure. Now boffins, about the climate crisis....

i love your narration.... this fool that has this channel called dark skies DRIVES ME CRAZY. his voice is so fake and cadence maddening. yours is normal and good. so go after DARK SKIES and put him outa busines son