Macron insists EU should not be US 'vassal': Is the French president isolated? • FRANCE 24 English

The fallout continues from Emmanuel Macron's remarks about China and the US. On his way back from a state visit to China, the French president said that Europe should not be a "follower" of either Washington or Beijing, or get caught up in any escalation. Despite the resulting backlash on both sides of the Atlantic, he stood by the comments, saying on a later trip to the Netherlands that being a US ally doesn't mean being a "vassal".
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  • @yeetian2774
    @yeetian2774 Жыл бұрын

    It’s not Macron’s opinion. It originates from Charles De Gaulle, the best president in French history.

  • @ricardosmythe2548

    @ricardosmythe2548

    Жыл бұрын

    Presidents and prime ministers come and go but when it kicks off we will all slap the upstart 😁

  • @AWSOM817

    @AWSOM817

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea no one challenge Angloworld supremacy.

  • @GermanicWorldOrder

    @GermanicWorldOrder

    Жыл бұрын

    So Macron have chosen death...

  • @hugowilliams1988

    @hugowilliams1988

    Жыл бұрын

    France is the only western country that established full diplomatic relation with China in the 1960s. Britain had lower level diplomatic relation with China.

  • @littlerockdoc3183

    @littlerockdoc3183

    9 ай бұрын

    Ehh De Gaulle was a backstabber. Constantly complaining about Anglo American hegemony when it was British, American, and Canadian blood expended to save France.

  • @aqibejaz7253
    @aqibejaz7253 Жыл бұрын

    To all those who are criticising Macron, what did he say wrong? Should he say France must become a vassal state of the US?

  • @drscopeify

    @drscopeify

    Жыл бұрын

    The problem is that China is leading the change you can see the communist hammer and sickle from small logos on paper to giant statues all over China and the red text on white banners with communist slogans all over China now, that was not the case even in 2016 so this is all new changes in China. I was in China in 2017 so I was there during the start of the transition I saw the new statues being built and the anti western and nationalistic ideas rising in China. For sure I was thinking this is not good and indeed the world has changed. I think the west needs to work together so no one should be a vassal of the other just heavy and serious work on the issue and preparing for the day after trade collapse with China. If UE cannot survive without China then it's time to take action to change that outcome.

  • @jeckjeck3119

    @jeckjeck3119

    Жыл бұрын

    US never asked France to be its vassal:/ Seems to me Macron is BSing right now.

  • @seanpatrick1243

    @seanpatrick1243

    Жыл бұрын

    Siding with true democracies over dictatorships is not being “a US vassal.” Macron is correct in his desire for more EU autonomy, but he is horribly misguided in his execution.

  • @seppomuppit

    @seppomuppit

    Жыл бұрын

    'Vassal state' wasn't the comments though, that was introduced afterwards.

  • @seanpatrick1243

    @seanpatrick1243

    Жыл бұрын

    @@seppomuppit So what? Macron has made such comments consistently and his actions have demonstrated his black and white view of the world.

  • @robertsanders7060
    @robertsanders7060 Жыл бұрын

    One thing that is a lot worse than being a US vassal... is being a French vassal.

  • @joolzc3776

    @joolzc3776

    Жыл бұрын

    Macron is a vassal to Putin!

  • @robertcwchin5872

    @robertcwchin5872

    Жыл бұрын

    The first one mentioned is far worse.

  • @chrisrobert5252

    @chrisrobert5252

    Жыл бұрын

    France advocates a powerful Europe with an army. Is that too complicated for you?

  • @amadeuz8161

    @amadeuz8161

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chrisrobert5252 France is playing a game with no other players atm. Like our country has a military power per capita greater than USA so if everyone else would do their part we would have 2 times the military power of USA because we have 2 times more people than USA. So start with getting up to our level per capita and then ask if we are interested :D Edit: Didnt wanna be rude but why is it a combined project to see to every countrys personal military needs? I do support working together with what we have but not to own stuff together because who takes it when one goes mad? Prepare for the worst and hope for the best. The worst is that EU would split up and the bigger countries would hoard all the equipment after replacing the stuff that the smaller countries had before the "buy it together", so no thank you. I like having what we have even if only 33% of our tanks are modern but that 33% is more than what we would get in the future if ever EU would split up and woould replace those with "together" tanks that then have to be split.

  • @robertsanders7060

    @robertsanders7060

    Жыл бұрын

    France is actually the strongest force holding the EU back. France seems to believe that the EU is an organization meant exclusively to serve France. As such, the EU cannot be given more power and a European army is impossible.

  • @Castorp-wn7dh
    @Castorp-wn7dh Жыл бұрын

    What's wrong about refusing to be someone's vassal? Please explain.

  • @oceanwave4502

    @oceanwave4502

    Жыл бұрын

    The point of being vassal is to be sacrificed when time is right. Nothing is "free".

  • @jamesmeppler6375

    @jamesmeppler6375

    Жыл бұрын

    Nothing is wrong there. There should be no vassal states/nations in this day and age, we can be friends and not have one be subservient

  • @sociolocomtsac

    @sociolocomtsac

    Жыл бұрын

    False framing. This has nothing to do with "being a vassal" which is CCP framing. Americans never considered France a vassal and has always encouraged Europe to be independently powerful. This is about free democracy vs autocratic expansionist powers that try to change borders. Why should the US-Asia help Ukraine if France thinks the CCP can just take over Taiwan with force? Why not let Russia take over most of Europe? If you think might is right, at least be consistent. If I can beat you up, I should be able to steal your wife and home? What selfish hypocrites.

  • @JigilJigil

    @JigilJigil

    Жыл бұрын

    It's about choosing between the good and the evil, US is the good while China and Russia are the evil, so for any nation that values human rights, freedom and democracy it's not that hard to choose.

  • @jamesrey3221

    @jamesrey3221

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JigilJigil yes, unless democracies defend themselves, the forces of autocracy will destroy them.

  • @bc4420
    @bc4420 Жыл бұрын

    Macron is so upset that he isn’t selling Australia subs anymore he has turned on the US or maybe it’s the retirement age problem. All I can say is that you can sell your subs to Canada. And by the way the retirement age in Canada is 65 so French people wake up. People are living longer and need to work. Also Taiwan is the entire Wests concern. We need the micro chips they produce. Do you think that China will sell them to us? I don’t think so.

  • @plastic_machinery_extruder

    @plastic_machinery_extruder

    Жыл бұрын

    Why not China doesn’t sell micro chip to Europe?China is focusing on business ,not this kind of politics.

  • @TruthIntel

    @TruthIntel

    Жыл бұрын

    But China have been selling every other thing to you while you're the one sanctioning them and restricting them(Huawei). You need to always look on the mirror to see your hypocrisy.

  • @NarutoUzumaki-jw4kw

    @NarutoUzumaki-jw4kw

    Жыл бұрын

    China would sell anything to anyone literally. It’s the west who is always concerned with ideologies and what not.

  • @dogtrotter

    @dogtrotter

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually 62 is NOT the actual retirement age for the majority of us here in France. The system is different than the US. You have to put in 42 full working years (higher than any other country) to get full benefits and most do not start working at 20. Anyone with a normal job with the education to get that job will have to work until 65 or 67 to get full retirement. So '62' is a propaganda myth. The 62 is for people who work brutally hard labor jobs that start young at 18 or 20 (and have a life expectancy of 8 years below the average) bc it does so much damage to the body that it's no longer physically possible beyond 62. Also salaries are much lower in comparison with the US so the payout for those hard labor job are often unliveable. As a women you also get punished by the system for taking time off to have kids, so a big issue. They get the lowest payouts because they often work less to take care of kids on Wednesdays when there is no school. Many women of the previous generations who no longer have their husbands are 'retired' in poverty and work in their 70's for extra money. The French are very informed about actual policy and that's why 70 percent are against what Marcon has done and the way he did it. The majority are not against reforms, but the idea the pension system can't be funded by taxes on the big corporations and the richest is something Macron won't consider. They value democracy and solidarity and are NOT against reforming the retrirement system, they would rather willingly pay higher social security tax to fund it. Macron will hear NOTHING but what he wants to do, that's the issue and he did it in a way that is dangerous for democracy with not one single vote in Parliament. That's why you see young students joining the protests in large numbers. Please don't swallow the BS the media shovels.

  • @bc4420

    @bc4420

    Жыл бұрын

    @@plastic_machinery_extruder that’s not true. China is all about politics to make money. China will squeeze the West for money using its political power if it gets the chip production in Taiwan. Have you not seen the loans china gives which for some reason always fail to get repaid. Seems like using politics to make money to me.

  • @user-di1xb2no4y
    @user-di1xb2no4y Жыл бұрын

    I had no idea that the idea of not being a vassal of the US would be resisted by so many politicians in Europe. Whose interests do European politicians represent? When Nord Stream was bombed and there was no resistance, it's easy to understand.

  • @dylanmurphy9389

    @dylanmurphy9389

    Жыл бұрын

    They do what they are paid to do, thinking outside the box would be risky for them.

  • @SH-bw5fx
    @SH-bw5fx Жыл бұрын

    The china's attitude towards russia does not have to be the way europe wants it to be Europe' s attitude towards russia does not have to be the way china wants it to be . Its my way or the highway .

  • @kindface
    @kindface Жыл бұрын

    First of all, the Chinese ambassador's comment in essence said that there was and is no explicit agreements ratifying the sovereignty of those former Soviet states. That is a statement of fact. The emphasis here is on documentary agreement; so the ambassador's observation was absolutely factual and correct. These countries were simply recognised (by precedence rather than by documentary agreement) by global institutions, including the UN, as sovereign states. And on sovereignty, the ambassador had at an earlier point of the TV interview recognised and stated that they ARE independent countries. So the whole hoolabaloo was much ado about nothing, arising out of a few western mainstream media's initial egregious attempts to spin the ambassador's words out of context and subsequent media organisations to just cut and paste without taking the trouble to parse and analyse those words in context. Disgraceful, farcical and childish of these media organisations.

  • @edwinmhondera4353
    @edwinmhondera4353 Жыл бұрын

    Europe has lost its place in the world stage a long time ago. Its so confused it talks in terms of aligning itself to other countries as opposed to determining its own independent views.

  • @Western_Decline

    @Western_Decline

    Жыл бұрын

    People need to ask a simple question: Can Europe say no to the US? If the answer is no, it is a vassal state.

  • @theolich4384

    @theolich4384

    Жыл бұрын

    Having no unified military, foreign and fiscal policy means it just can't muster the cards required to make a voice.

  • @joellee6142

    @joellee6142

    Жыл бұрын

    i think some of you forget the reason for nato , i believe this has kept those countries from fighting each other and working together..

  • @ormsreel
    @ormsreel Жыл бұрын

    I thought there's freedom of speech, which means people get to say things you don't like to hear and you have to listen anyways.

  • @kingofdevils

    @kingofdevils

    Жыл бұрын

    That is true for everything from macron's remarks to its criticism to your counter criticism to my ultra counter criticism everything is freedom of speech

  • @raymondparnell439

    @raymondparnell439

    Жыл бұрын

    Freedom of speech doesn't mean anyone must listen 😂

  • @ormsreel

    @ormsreel

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kingofdevils even to ballistic advanced symmetrical counter criticism 😄 🤣 😂 😆 😄 🤣

  • @ormsreel

    @ormsreel

    Жыл бұрын

    @@raymondparnell439 I would like to test that therapy.

  • @sundrenched6248

    @sundrenched6248

    Жыл бұрын

    Freedom of speech isn't freedom of criticism.

  • @photonquantum4863
    @photonquantum4863 Жыл бұрын

    Isolated by who? US vassals?😂

  • @catmonarchist8920
    @catmonarchist8920 Жыл бұрын

    West Africa shouldn't be a French vassal. That's what vassalage actually looks like.

  • @asiimwesimon268
    @asiimwesimon268 Жыл бұрын

    Hows this even a debate, isnt it obvious that europe should be independent

  • @wildmouse5888

    @wildmouse5888

    Жыл бұрын

    The Europeans are not willing to spend the money and enlist/draft the troops necessary to defend themselves. They are too addicted to that government-subsidized croissant every morning.

  • @privacyhelp

    @privacyhelp

    Жыл бұрын

    the problem is EU has been the america vassal for decades

  • @Lululululee

    @Lululululee

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes. It is called scapegoating to have room to appeal and make businesses with autocratic governments (anti thesis of what France stands for).

  • @ssss8162
    @ssss8162 Жыл бұрын

    What happened to EU values in Syria, Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq?

  • @disanKh

    @disanKh

    Жыл бұрын

    That's classified mate

  • @chrisrobert5252

    @chrisrobert5252

    Жыл бұрын

    Aleppo razed to the ground by Russian ? banned anti-personal mines left all over Libya by Wagner?

  • @jerrymiller9039
    @jerrymiller9039 Жыл бұрын

    How about being a reliable US ally for a change and avoid being a chinese or russian vassal?

  • @jerrymiller9039

    @jerrymiller9039

    Жыл бұрын

    @c m try listening to macron when he talks about Russia or China. He wants to be their vassal

  • @samanthaw4955

    @samanthaw4955

    Жыл бұрын

    The US doesn’t need reliable partners, it needs reliable gang members to keep this show going. The majority of the world see things similar, it’s only the US and its cabal of cohabitants that live in lala land.

  • @kingofdevils

    @kingofdevils

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@c m well if you refer to your friend and your enemy's friend in a way that makes them look equally distant or close to you than is it not nearly like that

  • @o_o825

    @o_o825

    Жыл бұрын

    There are no reliable “allies” to the U.S…. Americans will always pay for Europe’s problems, but Europeans will never help the U.S. in return. Europeans think their problems are the world’s problems. 🙄

  • @TheRedEagle1993

    @TheRedEagle1993

    Жыл бұрын

    How about gtf out of Europe and stay away from us! You are 98 % of the worlds problems , the whole world should stay away from USA not Europe …..

  • @jeffperteet2327
    @jeffperteet2327 Жыл бұрын

    The view from under this bus is amazing

  • @VinaySharma-xq6nw

    @VinaySharma-xq6nw

    Жыл бұрын

    Macron is absolutely right . Europe should stop being the lapdog of US. The whole world sees Europe like that . Europe should not lean towards China either . It should be self reliant and strong on its own

  • @nashchance
    @nashchance Жыл бұрын

    He mustered the courage to say it out eventually.

  • @jpan64
    @jpan64 Жыл бұрын

    These two guests clearly don’t understand China or Chinese culture. China does not make “useless” moves. Every move is well calculated, including the peace proposal (not a plan, they never called it a plan), including the embassitor’s statements. These two politicians react the same way a regular person would react. Bit disappointing I have to say.

  • @MetaView7

    @MetaView7

    Жыл бұрын

    These two people are so clueless, no wonder Europe is in decline. They have no idea the European economy is in such big trouble, their quality of living is going to fall back 50 years. They really should take a trip to China and see where this world is heading.

  • @maYTeus

    @maYTeus

    Жыл бұрын

    Where are people getting this "careful planning" narrative on China? no one has a plan everyone is operating under limited knowledge and resources 🙄

  • @phillip76

    @phillip76

    Жыл бұрын

    Grow up. Chinese are not giants.

  • @MetaView7

    @MetaView7

    Жыл бұрын

    @@phillip76 I agree, the Chinese are not giants. It is the europeans who are castrating themselves.

  • @jpan64

    @jpan64

    Жыл бұрын

    @@phillip76 I never said Chinese are giants, and neither are these politicians. So I don’t know what I need to “grow up” to. I think they need to “grow up” and learn China better if they want to talk about China in public. And you, you are “barking at the wrong tree” here.

  • @jpan64
    @jpan64 Жыл бұрын

    History tends to remember the results of one’s actions rather than the actions themselves. Macron knows it well.

  • @pomebiosolutions9009
    @pomebiosolutions9009 Жыл бұрын

    More like hostage than vassal

  • @hermionegranger__
    @hermionegranger__ Жыл бұрын

    🇺🇸 : Either you are with us, or you are with them!! 🇫🇷 : 😩 This is insane!!! 🇩🇪 : 😏 First Time? 🇮🇹 : 🤐 Hmmm. 🇳🇱 : 💤😴 🇪🇸 : 🧐 🇵🇱 : Yes!!! 🇬🇧 : 😊👍

  • @sayedkhalilullahmonib3363
    @sayedkhalilullahmonib3363 Жыл бұрын

    France president is self proclaimed leader of Europe. Lol

  • @MTMF.london

    @MTMF.london

    Жыл бұрын

    He has a Napoleon complex 😛

  • @kindface

    @kindface

    Жыл бұрын

    The French president has the freedom and right to speak for himself just as anyone of us do and has the authority to speak for the French state and people as the elected leader of France. When Macron said what he said, he explicitly urged the EU to consider his words. Nowhere in his speech did he claim to speak for all Europe. If you think he did claim to speak for Europe, please show me the evidence that he made that claim.

  • @007nait
    @007nait Жыл бұрын

    I think, EU is milking the US like never before. May be the EU is the vassal state of the US but the EU is benefiting enormously militarily, and economically from the US.

  • @chrisrobert5252

    @chrisrobert5252

    Жыл бұрын

    It is clear that the Inflation Reduction Act shows how fair an economic partner the US is

  • @frederikpedersen689

    @frederikpedersen689

    Жыл бұрын

    taking into account military spending, europe is the second largest military power in the world

  • @hilkovanwalraven3111

    @hilkovanwalraven3111

    Жыл бұрын

    We sure are benefiting from trade with the US .Just like the US benefits from trade with us.

  • @Meeko2689

    @Meeko2689

    Жыл бұрын

    This is what the US wants make the EU more dependent on them 😂

  • @jorgenlarsen775

    @jorgenlarsen775

    Жыл бұрын

    America's armed forces are no longer as invincible as they once were. Europe must of course be able to defend itself completely without American help. But such European developments will also have consequences for the United States. Europe will buy fewer American weapons and more from its own defense industry. Europe can and will no longer depend on the American A-weapons umbrella, but strengthen its own nuclear defenses. Whether it is good for the world is a completely different matter.

  • @djoleclif
    @djoleclif Жыл бұрын

    i have one question Why doesn t eu respect Serbian sovereignty and teritorial integerity over it s kosovo province.

  • @richardadamwais9734
    @richardadamwais9734 Жыл бұрын

    This was literally the idea of Charles du gaule during the Cold War . However European countries depend on the American for foreign policy and military

  • @TheGreenReaper
    @TheGreenReaper Жыл бұрын

    Better to serve in NATO than reign in Moscow.

  • @randomguy7175

    @randomguy7175

    Жыл бұрын

    Bhakmut is calling you 😉

  • @Meeko2689

    @Meeko2689

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m sure the Ukrainians will receive you with open arms in the frontlines

  • @simwilliams5358
    @simwilliams5358 Жыл бұрын

    Should of let Germany keep France during WW2

  • @lax6384
    @lax6384 Жыл бұрын

    But it’s expected the us come and defend Europe🙄🙄

  • @HeyMJ.
    @HeyMJ. Жыл бұрын

    @France24 This segment’s title doesn’t accurately reflect statement context or word usage /meaning.

  • @bruceellacott9616
    @bruceellacott9616 Жыл бұрын

    China’s pseudo neutrality reminds one of the Emperor’s New Clothes with Macron telling the emperor how lovely his clothes are.

  • @flyingnan2520

    @flyingnan2520

    Жыл бұрын

    Amazingly in your logic "not condemn" equals to "pseudo neutrality", and "condemn" equals to "real neutrality"

  • @bruceellacott9616

    @bruceellacott9616

    Жыл бұрын

    @@flyingnan2520 Never said that. Pretending to be neutral while repeating Putin’s propaganda and supporting Russia as much as they dare is pseudo neutrality.

  • @bruceellacott9616

    @bruceellacott9616

    Жыл бұрын

    @@flyingnan2520 Of course, if Xi was true to his supposed convictions against interference in other countries, and not talking out of two sides of his mouth, he would condemn Putin’s invasion of a sovereign country.

  • @flyingnan2520

    @flyingnan2520

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bruceellacott9616 Now your "real neutrality" turns to "only listening to western propaganda and not listening to Russian propaganda" and "only make sanctions to Russia and should not do normal business with Russia"

  • @keyboardmanyoutube3189

    @keyboardmanyoutube3189

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bruceellacott9616 I thought we have freedom of speech no? China can repeat whatever it wants. I bet you were never criticized EU for its pseudo neutrality as EU have repeating US propaganda for decay

  • @jaemate21
    @jaemate21 Жыл бұрын

    Macron likes talking tough, but we all know that if Russia attacked NATO, France would be the 1st to surrender 😂😂

  • @BigBoss-sm9xj

    @BigBoss-sm9xj

    Жыл бұрын

    lol truee

  • @mikeglenn5212

    @mikeglenn5212

    Жыл бұрын

    Shortest book ever written was called famous French War heros lol.

  • @IndiAnFasod

    @IndiAnFasod

    Жыл бұрын

    For France to surrender, it needs Italy and Germany to surrender first.. Look at the geography..

  • @ssss8162

    @ssss8162

    Жыл бұрын

    Europe is already under attack. Remember Nordstream?

  • @pumalee1997

    @pumalee1997

    Жыл бұрын

    like the ww2.🤣🤣🤣

  • @josueborja9199
    @josueborja9199 Жыл бұрын

    Finally something I can agree with Macron

  • @justicebao7730
    @justicebao7730 Жыл бұрын

    If I were an average French citizen, I think I would like to know how allying with the US will benefit me.

  • @robertbraden4454

    @robertbraden4454

    Жыл бұрын

    Good point. That goes both ways. What value does France bring to US?

  • @lifeinme3472

    @lifeinme3472

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly, it is dangerous to be the enemy of US, BUT IT IS FATAL TO BE THE FRIEND'S OF AMERICANS

  • @albback8176

    @albback8176

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@robertbraden4454 france brings common sense

  • @robertbraden4454

    @robertbraden4454

    Жыл бұрын

    @@albback8176 LOL. Since when? According to who? Would Francophone Africa share your opinion?

  • @albback8176

    @albback8176

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertbraden4454 them i will reword it. Macron's address brought common sense

  • @rwksasc
    @rwksasc Жыл бұрын

    Macron is wise. France should decide what’s in its best interest. Not blindly obey a failing master who does not have its interests.

  • @jamesrey3221

    @jamesrey3221

    Жыл бұрын

    France does not even contribute 2% of the required funding for NATO. USA accounts for fully 70 per cent of the alliance’s defense expenditure, NATO members must and should shoulder their share of the burden by paying 2 per cent of GDP towards defense: just seven of the 30 member nations currently do so. France does not, for instance.

  • @rwksasc

    @rwksasc

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jamesrey3221 that is wise. NATO is a warring organization that has brought deaths and sufferings to many people and should be dismantled.

  • @UbermanNullist
    @UbermanNullist Жыл бұрын

    Macron is gradually losing his sense of reality due to the severe shock caused by the failure of domestic pension reform.

  • @agnelomascarenhas8990

    @agnelomascarenhas8990

    Жыл бұрын

    Macron failed in invigorating the French economy and the attempt to suck up to China is a consequence of his failure. Biden has taken some steps to reinvigorate the US economy and Europe needs to find ways to boost its economy.

  • @ajc5479

    @ajc5479

    Жыл бұрын

    How is the pension reform a failure?

  • @cardinaltraveltourism4682

    @cardinaltraveltourism4682

    Жыл бұрын

    He’s tougher than most European leaders and his youthful age has allowed him to understand the geopolitical risks America is playing with Russia and china at the detriment of the European Union 🇪🇺

  • @MTMF.london

    @MTMF.london

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cardinaltraveltourism4682 He has Napoleon complex 🙄

  • @MaramaoMaramao
    @MaramaoMaramao Жыл бұрын

    Come on Macron you are very small and fool! More independence for Europe when EU spends peanuts for security?

  • @jeprotable
    @jeprotable Жыл бұрын

    he’s isolated cause he’s doin’ the right thing

  • @simonfoster1881
    @simonfoster1881 Жыл бұрын

    So it is fact that Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia do not have legitimate sovereignty on its territory according to the international law, even though China, US and other countries still recognize its national sovereignty. Some people think that international law should be strictly abided by, thus Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia are not formal country unless they make a formal territory protocol with Russia.

  • @MTMF.london

    @MTMF.london

    Жыл бұрын

    The status of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia as sovereign states with formal territories were ratified and recognized by the UN members including Russia and China since 1991.

  • @user-sx2we1xe5q

    @user-sx2we1xe5q

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MTMF.london They should sign agreement on territorial borders with Russia asap.

  • @joellee6142

    @joellee6142

    Жыл бұрын

    I cant make any sense of what you said, those are countries, who else do they belong to?

  • @user-sx2we1xe5q

    @user-sx2we1xe5q

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joellee6142 Their status as independent sovereign states is somewhat flawed for the lack of agreements with Russia to irrevocably confirm the common borders and territories for each.

  • @kanweiwu7339
    @kanweiwu7339 Жыл бұрын

    Italy and France presumably do not need Taiwanese chips and the electronic products containing them.

  • @AahFukIt

    @AahFukIt

    Жыл бұрын

    TSMC, Advanced microchips producer with 52-56% of the world market share. Glad to see someone seing through the BS! ; )

  • @tensorlab

    @tensorlab

    Жыл бұрын

    TSMC uses Dutch EUV machines and Zeiss is the only company that makes the advanced lenses used in those machines (Both are based in Europe).

  • @tom_bout
    @tom_bout Жыл бұрын

    Theres not going to be any war and I agree with Macron France can be an ally but not get involved if they dont want to.

  • @Andrew_alxf21
    @Andrew_alxf21 Жыл бұрын

    He said this several times, but still acted like a vassal 😂

  • @jeffreyyellow706
    @jeffreyyellow706 Жыл бұрын

    Solute to macron

  • @eriktopolsky8531
    @eriktopolsky8531 Жыл бұрын

    and Macros is right this time

  • @jamessailor4869
    @jamessailor4869 Жыл бұрын

    If United States had that attitude during World War II, where France be right now?🤔

  • @user-mz8ge7dx4o
    @user-mz8ge7dx4o Жыл бұрын

    So either way, choosing America or China is fatal like we have watched Ukraine and that is totally scary thing for the most so like even isolated, it would be so important and our PM is not doing that because not so independent

  • @albback8176

    @albback8176

    Жыл бұрын

    France can work with both. Why be forced to choose only one?

  • @HTeo-og1lg

    @HTeo-og1lg

    Жыл бұрын

    You've made a false dichotomy of choice! Every truly sovereign nation, ought to be able not to have to choose one or the other, but take the MERIT of each of her foreign policy through the lens of her own citizens' interests. Only semi-autonomous like states, eg. Japan, Germany, and a few others, have to abide by the interests of the US (or any country) who have military forces occupying their countries, either willingly or otherwise.

  • @QualeQualeson
    @QualeQualeson Жыл бұрын

    I don't know which American bruised his ego lately, nor would I say there's anything fundamentally wrong about not wanting to be a vassal state, something Ukraine has a lot more to say about than France at the moment to be sure. But the man simply exhibits zero understanding of timing and courtesy, and that's the best case scenario. France is a founding member of NATO and has been dealing with bumptious Americans for over 70 years. It's bizarre, incoherent and unbecoming.

  • @oldskoolrools1353

    @oldskoolrools1353

    Жыл бұрын

    it's sad that he feels the need to insult the the US, the country that has provided security for Europe since WW2.

  • @robertbraden4454

    @robertbraden4454

    Жыл бұрын

    You miss the point of why the US is angry. US does not ask France to be a vassal. Macron effectively said " US security concerns are not French security concerns." That is fine for France, but why should the US adopt European security concerns (Ukraine) if Europe does not reciprocate? What is in it for the US?

  • @malaysiaterdedah3934

    @malaysiaterdedah3934

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertbraden4454 the US is not there for "European security concerns". Wake up. The US is the one starting all these wars to profit and mantain global dominance. The world has had enough. It's time for new powers. China is a good counterbalance.

  • @QualeQualeson

    @QualeQualeson

    Жыл бұрын

    @@oldskoolrools1353 This isn't so much about insulting the US as it is about showing some consideration for the plight of Ukraine, western unity and finally; not running errands for the likes of Putin and Xi. The French-US relation has always strained somewhat under the fact that both nation states have in common that they are culturally insular and arrogant, but they've made it work regardless. To bring this up now is just incredibly poor judgement. The Americans and the French could bitch at each other behind closed doors until their blue in the face for all I care, but under the present circumstances, they must maintain alliance coherency.

  • @oldskoolrools1353

    @oldskoolrools1353

    Жыл бұрын

    @@QualeQualeson I agree with 99% of what you say, but I believe Macron is playing a game with his domestic audience (as he has big problems at home) by attempting to portray US support for Europe and other democratic nations as US attempting to exercise unnecessary influence where they are not needed or wanted. That stokes anti-US sentiment, which is a dangerous thing. It’s the same tactic used by authoritarian regimes, just less obvious, where they create an enemy so that their people direct their anger towards the enemy and not their inept government at home. It's very simple. If Macron believes Europe doesn’t need the US, then let Europe step up and pay for their own defence, starting with proper support for Ukraine. Look at the shameful pittance that France has contributed compared to the US. The truth is that France are quite happy to step back knowing that the US will shoulder the burden, because it’s the right thing to do. I fear for the day that the US has had enough, and says to Europe, OK, get on with it….

  • @soundscare
    @soundscare Жыл бұрын

    Leave NATO.

  • @atatsmail260
    @atatsmail260 Жыл бұрын

    Vassal is simply put , he meant "Scapegoat'in which US doesn't expect any less Of Nato allies. Or any ally

  • @JenHope883

    @JenHope883

    Жыл бұрын

    Vassals are use like vessels to enrich the Super Mafia.

  • @vasukinagabhushan
    @vasukinagabhushan Жыл бұрын

    International relations are governed by self interests, not values.

  • @jiaxinchen6467

    @jiaxinchen6467

    Жыл бұрын

    And value has become an empty word with apparent double standard, if look back the past many decades.

  • @acidbot666
    @acidbot666 Жыл бұрын

    "Is the French president isolated?" Likely the only adult in town!

  • @BulanuRoz
    @BulanuRoz Жыл бұрын

    Hey let's not become US vassals. Also macron: Let's become Chinese vassals.

  • @africanherbsman9488
    @africanherbsman9488 Жыл бұрын

    France's future is in Africa. They want Chinese help in Africa.

  • @yiannakosautomotivekeys2380
    @yiannakosautomotivekeys2380 Жыл бұрын

    *This is laughable. On one hand they say that they agree to the one China policy. On the other hand they agree that Taiwan is NOT an independent country/island or whatever you may call it. So, my question is, if Taiwan is not independent, then who does it belong to? Nobody? If thats the case, then anybody can declare it as theirs and the nearest power I believe should have the first choice!!!*

  • @jmxu4734

    @jmxu4734

    Жыл бұрын

    one china policy is :the only china is people's Republic of China, Republic of China is a iligel one(the name of current taiwan government),and taiwan is a part of china

  • @jiaxinchen6467

    @jiaxinchen6467

    Жыл бұрын

    Your comments reflect you're lacking of the knowledge on this issues. What does one China policy mean? For many decades after the civil war, both the Republic of China (i.e., the government at Taiwan) and the People's Republic of China (mainland China) declare they are the only legal government of China, with the territory covers the mainland and Taiwan. So when your country establishing diplomatic relation with PRC, your government stated that they recognize PRC as the sole legal government of China. At the same time, your government withdrew its official relationship with ROC.

  • @jiaxinchen6467

    @jiaxinchen6467

    Жыл бұрын

    According to the constitutions of ROC or PRC, Taiwan is a province of China. ROC has a provincial government of Taiwan, though it stopped from functioning without any budget after 2000 when the current ruling DPP won the election for the first time. The DPP hates ROC since it basically says China. So they have been using Taiwan instead of ROC to brainwash people in Taiwan and confuse others around the world.

  • @gigler1990
    @gigler1990 Жыл бұрын

    I’m glad he’s not my president.

  • @michaeljohn669
    @michaeljohn669 Жыл бұрын

    Bring these two guys to Washington we need them this was a great segment on foreign policy.

  • @sed9406
    @sed9406 Жыл бұрын

    the Chinese ambassseder didnt question the sorventy of soviet states. He questioned the international law bases of each others claim. which is ture

  • @SeeLasSee
    @SeeLasSee Жыл бұрын

    EU is not a vassal. But I’d you cannot do your own security and depend on others, that has consequences. Pay up, rebuild your individual militaries in an interoperable manner and the ground will shift.

  • @MH-pz8wf
    @MH-pz8wf Жыл бұрын

    Bye bye Felicia oh, oops, Macron

  • @user-mz8ge7dx4o
    @user-mz8ge7dx4o Жыл бұрын

    He said not America nor China

  • @hhKJgf1M8a0rzt8hP
    @hhKJgf1M8a0rzt8hP Жыл бұрын

    Politicians shouldn't be so short-sighted - if we allow one democratic state to fall to the aggressor, others will follow. Within a decade or two we will not have any left. And along with them freedom and peace will go too. Do we wish that kind of world for ourselves and our children, where one is put into jail for saying wrong things and where one has no chances of success if he doesn't belong to the political party in power?

  • @alanssshh

    @alanssshh

    Жыл бұрын

    what freedom? freedom to kill millions in Iraq Afhanstan Syria and Vietnam?

  • @benoitbvg2888
    @benoitbvg2888 Жыл бұрын

    I mean, technically Macron's not wrong. But it's extremely bad timing to say this sort of thing right now...

  • @nohandler1493
    @nohandler1493 Жыл бұрын

    90 percent export goes through taiwan straits. I means who send those exports 😂😂😂

  • @user-mz8ge7dx4o
    @user-mz8ge7dx4o Жыл бұрын

    Having the different races does not mean they are not partners

  • @eveleung8855
    @eveleung8855 Жыл бұрын

    France is so isolated and sold 2100 Airbus planes to China 😂 Germany can hand Boeing some napkins 🎉

  • @ronaldphoong
    @ronaldphoong Жыл бұрын

    Macron is responsible for France, he speaks for France, not the EU or the US. Thus, if it is in the interest of France, he will speak for France. India stands out on this. Macron now understands that his actions must be for France, just as India for India.

  • @michaelpelzek8882

    @michaelpelzek8882

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah he's been on a roll when it comes to looking out for the French people...

  • @usmarine4636
    @usmarine4636 Жыл бұрын

    If it wasn't for the US Frances will be speaking German or Russian

  • @lifeinme3472
    @lifeinme3472 Жыл бұрын

    Americans - if you are not with us then you are against us. That primitive and uncivilised characters should be liberated by Chinese more sophisticated win-win strategy

  • @seanpatrick1243

    @seanpatrick1243

    Жыл бұрын

    Not too obvious of a Chinese propaganda account created, and I'm not making this up, just 6 months ago.

  • @MichaelLi-ms1on
    @MichaelLi-ms1on Жыл бұрын

    If you say Taiwan question is an international issue when it is certainly not. Why can't someone say that there wasn't treaty to confirm the borders and status of the ex-Soviet nations? Why didn't Poland say anything? The west Ukraine is just too tasty, isn't it?

  • @a9udn9u-vanced
    @a9udn9u-vanced Жыл бұрын

    Why is this even controversial in France? Are there many Frenchs who want to be a US vessel?

  • @ericz9259
    @ericz9259 Жыл бұрын

    Macron is right in this issue.

  • @user-mz8ge7dx4o
    @user-mz8ge7dx4o Жыл бұрын

    today having many technologies, such as space shuttles too, maybe one way ticket to Mars. Anyways, we all kind of feeling same thing where choosing not America nor China and would be better in that way so

  • @chriswaters3442

    @chriswaters3442

    Жыл бұрын

    Defend yourself!

  • @CS-nn8zu
    @CS-nn8zu Жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad Lu Shaye left Canada. He was despised by all. My sympathies to the French.

  • @user-mz8ge7dx4o
    @user-mz8ge7dx4o Жыл бұрын

    so they could do anything but eating forbidden apple. It is so sad and upset creating the nuke crisis and maybe today the environmental issues would be considered too. If in anyways doing such a thing, we dont know what they have as the result for doing those things so ruining our planet

  • @user-mz8ge7dx4o
    @user-mz8ge7dx4o Жыл бұрын

    Japan having the ideal of the Article 9th and I think it is so colonization if done anything with it. America and China

  • @user-tm2pc5bz1k
    @user-tm2pc5bz1k Жыл бұрын

    No, he is not isolated. Just today a pole member of government complained half europe wants to improve relations with russia.

  • @patnafs
    @patnafs Жыл бұрын

    NO

  • @haskalah
    @haskalah Жыл бұрын

    So if demanding not to be a vassal means "isolated" does that mean the rest of the EU want to be vassals??? He didn't demand to be an opponent but only to keep sovereignty

  • @MetaView7

    @MetaView7

    Жыл бұрын

    Germany is a defeated country still under the occupation of the American military.

  • @MetaView7
    @MetaView7 Жыл бұрын

    6:20 Love his rabbit ears. They are very fitting.

  • @anuragsinha2013
    @anuragsinha20133 ай бұрын

    The Vassal state comment seems to really bother France, Germany and UK. May be because it's True. To be an enemy of US is dangerous but to be a friend is absolutely fatal, Germany learned it first hand.

  • @anasttau9908
    @anasttau9908 Жыл бұрын

    No, he is not isolated, he has millions and millions of europeans thinking the same.

  • @typicalKAMBlover21
    @typicalKAMBlover21 Жыл бұрын

    Last time I heard value based foreign policy was during the culture revolution of the Mao’s era. Pretty sad that EU is now repeating the same strategy to its own people nowadays.

  • @kingofdevils

    @kingofdevils

    Жыл бұрын

    Well the sad thing is communists having culture revolution in stead of nationalists. And most of the democratic world actually have started going nationalist route so it's the other way around

  • @lifeinme3472

    @lifeinme3472

    Жыл бұрын

    It is nothing to do with communism but human society evolution

  • @seanpatrick1243

    @seanpatrick1243

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lifeinme3472 You mean devolution.

  • @jasonmamedov6769
    @jasonmamedov6769 Жыл бұрын

    It’s too late for that

  • @Bb-ul7xh
    @Bb-ul7xh Жыл бұрын

    Finding his backbone

  • @sukryronde460
    @sukryronde460 Жыл бұрын

    French use to be not vessel but rescue vessel of US during WW2, if France did not become vessel of US the history would be different today

  • @Namuchat
    @Namuchat Жыл бұрын

    So if the Chinese are happy with what Macron said, he did nothing wrong. - Diplomacy is the art of saying what the other side wants to hear! - I'm sure Macron Xi said that Europe would suffer badly from a US-China war over Taiwan; I don't think he betrayed European interests.

  • @wallacekatini3424
    @wallacekatini3424 Жыл бұрын

    But Macron is saying the TRUTH!

  • @WalkOverHotCoal
    @WalkOverHotCoal Жыл бұрын

    "Unconditional love" can go both ways. It could reap rewards, and plenty of it, if and when the recipient of your "Unconditional love" reciprocate. On the other hand, it could potentially invite abuse of your loyalty and trust. Allow me to use a domestic situation to explain what I am talking about. In a relationship, it has the potential to evolve into an abusive one if one of the partners submits way too much to the counterpart. Sadly, in most of the cases, it is the females who ended up the victim because somehow females are more inclined to fall for this thing called "LOVE". In an abusive relationship, it started with one of them giving away her autonomy, and allows him to make decisions for her. As time progresses, it becomes a "given" that she would allow him to dictate how she live, how she behave, and who can she be friends with. In simple terms, she is now a "VASSAL" to him. Now try to superimpose what I elaborated with the relationship between the EU and America, and the many "like-minded" buddies of America and America. America hold onto the EU and like-minded buddies via defence. In Europe, it is the NATO. In the Asian region, there is the ANZUS (Australia-New_Zeaalnd_America) pact, and the newly formed ones such as AUKUS (Australia-US), and QUAD (India-Australia-Japan-US). The US promises comprehensive protection in exchange for those like-minded buddies to tag along and agree with US's foreign policies. What President Macron articulated was that while a close relationship between EU and US is valuable, but the EU, being an autonomous and independent bloc, should just become a Remora fish attached to the US. In case commentators have forgotten the initial vision/objective of the formation of the EU, was to be a credible bloc rivaling the US. It is meant to be a bloc which makes own foreign policies, economic decisions, and to decide who it can be friends with. It is rather interesting that the Greens Party being a supposedly "leftist" inclined, become a vassal to the US, a full-blown capitalistic country. Perhaps the Greens Party got hoodwinked by the "democracy and human rights" credential which America is never slow to bag about. If my memory serves me right, the US used WMD as a guise to invade Iraq, and supposed to deliver on democracy and human right to those savages.

  • @winstonmaraj8029
    @winstonmaraj8029 Жыл бұрын

    Poor France, getting even deeper into Stupidity Lake. Am never surprised at the French. Those lovely daes of summer 1940 and what happened has forever set the standard for what France is.

  • @AWSOM817
    @AWSOM817 Жыл бұрын

    As long as NATO exist, EU are just a imaginary thing…they play bad cop good cop in Ukraine conflict but when it ended i wonder which one will survive.

  • @thuydoan7496
    @thuydoan7496 Жыл бұрын

    I get the feeling Macron is going to be ousted from his government fairly shortly.

  • @thuydoan7496

    @thuydoan7496

    Жыл бұрын

    @Vintage Costume Gems Don't forget Xi Jin-Ping. Macron wants to be his biatch.

  • @user-mz8ge7dx4o
    @user-mz8ge7dx4o Жыл бұрын

    Dont we think America is way too much giving China credits today and why is that? Although, it is so dangerous today having the war creating the nuke crisis but if you are anyway thinking those countries are different thing maybe that is so a problem

  • @cocaineminor4420

    @cocaineminor4420

    Жыл бұрын

    Jealous huh Japanese are underrated in politics nowadays Japan economy is also going to get overtaken by India soon and Indonesia

  • @wlhjr77
    @wlhjr77 Жыл бұрын

    Other than ego, its hard to understand the point of macron's comments

  • @SuzanaMantovaniCerqueira
    @SuzanaMantovaniCerqueira Жыл бұрын

    He is just saying in “monarchic” words… 😅

  • @user-mz8ge7dx4o
    @user-mz8ge7dx4o Жыл бұрын

    If you cannot be responsible for this planet, maybe it is not your place anywhere. Like anywhere in this planet

  • @daddybaker1586
    @daddybaker1586 Жыл бұрын

    I wish Europe could defend itself too but dreaming won't help the situation or Eastern Europe

  • @theolich4384
    @theolich4384 Жыл бұрын

    When the EU formed its economy was larger than the US. Look at it now.

  • @Eevcee
    @Eevcee Жыл бұрын

    Why are they in NATO then? Wait, why did they leave NATO and then return? Wait, wait, why did the US have to bail France out during WW2? 😂

  • @karen64watson.
    @karen64watson. Жыл бұрын

    A French leader ? Does it exist ?

  • @capitaneaz
    @capitaneaz Жыл бұрын

    And this people are the smartest that EU can offers?

  • @NorCalMoDo
    @NorCalMoDo Жыл бұрын

    Interestingly, the German Green Party MEP speaks with American accented English.