The most shocking part is that 2015 is nearly a decade ago. He dropped that fact like it was nothing.😂

@tomlxyz

Жыл бұрын

For me 2015 does feel like that long ago

@mikicerise6250

Жыл бұрын

You're old, xander. Old.

@hefywefy5331

Жыл бұрын

In the world of Politics and economy that's not a long time

@geofflepper3207

Жыл бұрын

It's only recently that I heard that some teenagers today mock people born before the year 2000 (especially those old enough to remember the time before 2000) by calling them 1900s people. Don't know how common that is. Hopefully not that much.

@mikicerise6250

Жыл бұрын

@@geofflepper3207 We are 1900s people. 🤣

I wish they would just make public transport more affordable in more places. People wouldn't need all these cars if there were affordable alternatives.

@AAAJZA

Жыл бұрын

this is why america is so ineffective to travel across too, if they had a few high speed rail lines then they've solved the problem, created jobs, and reduced carbon emmisions

@zjeee

Жыл бұрын

Public transport is usually heavily subsidized with the government. Remember that when you use public transportation, most of the cost the taxpayers have already covered.

@Emperor-Inker

Жыл бұрын

They can do both, people should have the liberty to travel the way they desire whether it's by public transport, car (I'm implying eco friendly powered cars), bike or walk. I'm someone who catches public transport for the majority of my journeys via buses & trains but this is unfair & wrong. It's placing restrictions on people's lives & I suspect that it's to track/ monitor where the public travels even more (in short they don't trust us or they're just being overly nosey which isn't needed). Also let's be honest this wouldn't be applied to the elites (rich / celebrities / governments) they would be able to travel via their own private vehicles; this is very similar with climate protests where some of the elites will talk about being more eco friendly & then they'll jump on their private jet back to the USA.

@BogFiets

Жыл бұрын

​@@zjeee Cars are also heavily subsidised.

@KrzysztofBob

Жыл бұрын

@@zjeee and who pays for the roads, infrastructure and the maintenance. Not to mention 30 billion euro per year in subsidies for the auto industry in the EU alone

As a Bulgarian I understand those changes and I am all for them, but here most people drive 20+ years old cars because they can't afford newer ones

@buddy1155

Жыл бұрын

it only applies on new cars.

@yarpen26

Жыл бұрын

I'm within the top 20% best paid employees in Poland with a mortgage on a 50-meter new apartment as well as an additional big debt I owe to a friend and which I probably won't cease paying for another two years. Under absolutely no circumstances could I afford a car, no matter how old, the costs of maintenance alone would kill my monthly budget. Maybe in a couple of years.

@vladimirvasek7712

Жыл бұрын

@@buddy1155 it will influence the cost of used cars nevertheless...

@floppa9415

Жыл бұрын

100% agree. I think either (almost) everyone should be able to afford cars or nobody should. Going back to where to the x % are able to while the peasents are stuck with public transport would be terrible.

@kreb7

Жыл бұрын

Is for new cars only

It still blows my mind that a 3 ton electric SUV is subsidized but a 200kg ICE motorbike is taxed to hell. The motorcycle needs to ride about 1 million kilometers to even emit what it takes to build the needlessly big SUV.

@RuneDrageon

Жыл бұрын

That's the car lobby for ya. As a German I have to apologize, cause thats on our dependence.

@SirBalageG

Жыл бұрын

how dare you, think about the emissions corrected with weight, the motorcycle is melting the ice caps! :D joke aside, it's a fucking joke that the EU regulations take the weight of the vehicle into the equation, that's why we can't have affordable stuff

@gregorymalchuk272

Жыл бұрын

@@RuneDrageon You should be glad that your car industry is lobbying against choking off most of the primary energy inputs to the human economy.

@vasiliyt8600

Жыл бұрын

If more people would use (besides public transportation of course) more motorbikes and scooters instead of cars for commuting (to work etc.), there would be never traffic congestion. The average car on the road has just 1.2 people on board.

@InTimeTraveller

Жыл бұрын

SUVs are a figurative cancer on the cities due to their enormous size. ICEs are going to give you literal cancer though along with asthma and chronic cardiopulmonary diseases.

You can have my car when you peel my cold dead fingers from the steering wheel

I can talk about Portugal a little bit. There's no reliable public transportation anywhere except between big cities and in big cities, you see cars that are 20 years old or even more, because new cars are not affordable and sometimes twice as expensive as our neighbours from Spain, because government is illegally taxing cars twice (IVA/VAT and ISV which is tax on vehicles) so cars can go from being affordable to not affordable easlily, while salaries are really low, that a car is seen as a costly necessity over unemployment. Yearly tax of new cars is extremely expensive. A friend of mine bought 2/3 years ago a Dacia Sandero for 14k euros new and he pays annually around 500€ of tax and another 300€ or more of insurance. While I have a 25 years old diesel car that pays 40€ of tax and I can have an insurance of around 100€. Guess what a minimum wage worker (760€ monthly) chooses? Guess what percentage of the population in borderline poverty (if they didn't get subsidies from the State): 40%! Investment in public infrastructure stagnated because of the high debt and years of austerity (that are still ongoing), while corruption in government and public facilities is still rampant and mismanagement of the country too. Brain drain is a contributing factor for this and caused by this. So yeah, Portugal will never abandon fuel cars unless there's public infrastructure and a reliable one. Portugal will never be like Norway that have 90% of electric cars unless they are significantly cheaper to the alternatives. I also see a trend of people buying old cars and restoring them because they have more parts available, are cheaper to maintain, have less tech and don't have anti-pollution measures because they often fail.

@tobiascornille

Жыл бұрын

What percentage of people in Portugal actually lives outside of the big cities? Coming from an urban sprawl country (Belgium), Portugal seems well positioned to just upgrade its public transport a bit and promote biking

@DragonBlueSpirit

Жыл бұрын

​​​​@@tobiascornille More than half of Portugals population actually lives outside their two major cities (Porto and Lisbon) and it's only in these cities where public transport is prominent. The very mountainous landscape isn't really ideal for biking either. Portuguese people really depend on their cars to be able to go do their groceries and espacially work. I knew somebody that lived close to Braga and wasn't able to find a job because he didn't have a car so employers wouldn't even consider him

@tobiascornille

Жыл бұрын

@@DragonBlueSpirit ah interesting. I always thought the countryside of Portugal was largely empty. Yeah for those communities, cars will still be necessary i guess. Although biking/walking can already work for groceries etc in smaller towns (not between towns indeed)

@DragonBlueSpirit

Жыл бұрын

@@tobiascornille I would definitely agree with you on that if the cities had a flatter topography. I don't know if you're even been to Porto (if not, you definitely should plan a weekend trip some day) but it is almost impossible to ride a bike there unless you have legs made of steel. I do agree that the public transportation system needs to be improved all over Europe, but being such an old continent with very old and tight roads, I don't think it is always possible. What I don't understand is how "new" countries like the USA that have excellent roads, do not have any major public transportation system (except places like New York of course). Europe is what it is.. some countries are over 400 years old and were not planned for our modern society. It's impressive to see that we managed to adapt our cities that well but you can not change the entire infrastructure without rebuilding an entire country/continent from the ground up

@thebloody0076

Жыл бұрын

It is like going back 100 years in time ! We have to revolt against those globalist scumbugs in Brussels !!

EU needs a new multinational public transport network that’s planned for the far future.

@well-blazeredman6187

Жыл бұрын

Are you not able to travel around at the moment?

@stekra3159

Жыл бұрын

Its called Ten T

@user-nl9xh8iw4v

Жыл бұрын

spot on

@hedydd2

Жыл бұрын

It works in towns but not in the countryside or small villages, or from town to or from these. That will never change as the cost of that regular public transport will never be viable. Also it’s not only people that need transporting but all kinds of goods and services, all over the UK, daily over large areas of the UK. If you do travel much out of larger cities, you would know that personal and commercial transport is essential and just how big the UK is overall.

@rizkyadiyanto7922

Жыл бұрын

@Risto Kempas planes.

I just will keep servicing and mantaining my old petrol E46 330Ci, it's way cheaper than buying a new car and I really like it

@steppenwolf1872

3 ай бұрын

Superbe inline 6 engine.

20th century : "a country will be considered fully developped when everybody has access to a car." 21st century: "a country will be considered fully developped when nobody needs a car anymore."

@thebloody0076

Жыл бұрын

It is like going back 100 years in time ! We have to revolt against those globalist scumbugs in Brussels !!

@CombuskenKid

Жыл бұрын

The actual quote is: “A developed country is not a place where the poor have cars. It’s where the rich use public transport” - paraphrased from Enrique Penalosa, former Mayor of Bogotá, Colombia

@caseypittman9950

Жыл бұрын

The former was according to the car lobby

@MrHws5mp

Жыл бұрын

20th century : "a country will be considered fully developed when everybody has access to a car." 21st century theory: "a country will be considered fully developed when nobody needs a car anymore." 21st century practice: "a country will be considered fully developed when nobody can afford a car anymore."

@nolibtard6023

Жыл бұрын

Why isn’t this a dogma yet?

5:40 slight correction for germany here: ⅓ third of our coalition, the FDP, wanted to stop/renegotiate the Deal. The other 2 parties were not in favour of this. The Minister of mobility however is Part of the FDP party and therefore Held the power to force a re-negotation, in spite of our green Party environmental minister wanting to vote for the deal. This move was very last minute and lead to arguments within the coalition

@adrianthoroughgood1191

Жыл бұрын

I thought it was surprising that a government involving the green party would make this awful move. It seems they did not do a good job of coalition negotiations to make sure they got the key positions for climate action.

@christophhanke6627

Жыл бұрын

@@adrianthoroughgood1191 it is a three party coalition which makes it Harder to get key positions. They managed to get the ministries of environment, economy+climate change, culture, family, agriculture+food

@adrianthoroughgood1191

Жыл бұрын

@@christophhanke6627 getting environment and climate were clearly essential. I think transport was the next most important one to get. That requires ling term planning so things need to be done right now. A lot of good can be done to improve agriculture too, but IMHO that should have been a lower priority than transport.

@scifino1

Жыл бұрын

@@christophhanke6627 Don't forget the foreign ministry.

@NazriB

Жыл бұрын

Lies again? Captain Of Euro

Uh, Bulgaria has absolutely NO automotive manufacturing anymore. It all left years ago.

@todortodorov940

Жыл бұрын

Did it ever have anything? I don't think so.

@theK1ller5

Жыл бұрын

@@todortodorov940 It had an industry building Soviet cars and even until the 1990s it built British cars in Varna. Another industry lost after the changes...

@seneca983

Жыл бұрын

@Zaydan Alfariz According to Wiktionary it means something like "color" in Sanskrit. However, it seems to have other unrelated meanings in other languages so the name of the Bulgarian city likely doesn't come from Sanskrit.

@todortodorov940

Жыл бұрын

@@theK1ller5 My family (and I) left in 1990, and back then I can only remember building busses - no cars. But may be BG did assemble soviet cars, especially in the 90's. Regarding the British cars - it's perfectly understandable those assembly lines closed. British cars are so uncompetitive (i.e. crap) that with few exceptions, not even in Britain do they build British cars.

@Igor_054

Жыл бұрын

​@@theK1ller5 Soviet then British? Can an automobile industry ever be that unlucky?

Those laws are tyrannical. As a Portuguese, I think having a personal car is freedom. Freedom to live in the country side to have your farm, freedom to go anywhere any time. Freedom to have your own schedule. Take our cars, and you take our freedom. Besides, public transportation is only present in big cities. Not being able to travel cheaply means rural inhabitants will be poorer. Its not right.

@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic1139

2 ай бұрын

Welcome to EUSSR.

They should ban private jets as well if they use any type of fuel, you see how fast they'll drop the bill then!

@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic1139

2 ай бұрын

YES! But how will they arrive at the next climate meeting 🤔

@orionbetelgeuse1937

21 күн бұрын

they should also ban the deals especially the ambitious ones

As someone who absolutely loves ICE cars, I feel like we’re being pushed in a corner where people like me are not allowed to buy the one thing that puts a genuine smile on my face. This new set of laws is the worst thing to happen to people like me.

Interesting timestamps - guys I know you are trying to do more content and pushing it more and more especially in Nebula but recently there’s a lot of scrappy mistakes for your standards!

@AmbivalentMind

Жыл бұрын

The Nebula pushing is becoming a little too aggressive and annoying in my taste tbh. Puts me off.

@satyasyasatyasya5746

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, I think they're just getting carried away, grabbing what money they can and letting standards slip. I'm thinking of unsubbing tbh

@Andre-by4su

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree! I really hope you guys read this, please keep your quality up and don`t become a tabloid.

@ILUVBlogs1

Жыл бұрын

Glad people agree, spotted by another person in the comments section but the video description of the sources of this video is still on Ukraine…

@ILUVBlogs1

Жыл бұрын

@@AmbivalentMind agreed!

And all those aberrant regulations forget the size and weight of the car?! We are witnessing the plague of oversized, overwighted and un-aerodhinamic SUVs (often BEV and PHEV) that have a higher impact on the environment than a small ICE or Mild-hybrid car, all factors comprised.

@ZetaFuzzMachine

Жыл бұрын

They shut up about that mainly because they're the product of more regulations (regarding occupants and pedestrian safety). So, yeah, just as dumb as it sounds

@jonathanodude6660

Жыл бұрын

those are made because the regulations were written when aluminium was expensive and plastics were rare. cars weighed more, so if you can make a huge vehicle made of new age materials like aluminium alloys, cheap steel, plastics and carbon fibre, you can always get around regulations designed for heavy steel, titanium and iron.

@michdem100

Жыл бұрын

I mean, the regulations are aiming at pollutants emitted per distance driven, so it is a quite roundabout way of trying to make the cars smaller. Though I do have to say mandating size would work better

@Mpl3564

Жыл бұрын

@@ZetaFuzzMachine Considering the impact of gargantuan SUVs on pedestrian safety, I would say that all this is even dumber than it sounds.

@thebloody0076

Жыл бұрын

Look, it is none of the politicians' business what we drive, what we eat and what we wear. I hope you don't belong to this communist climate sect which wants to turn us 100 years back in time !!

You have to be so careful tightening these regulations. Many manufacturers used low pressure piston rings to improve fuel consumption. But many are beginning to burn oil after just a few years. Regulations going faster than technology.

They could make small cars with good fuel concumption and emissions but they make big ass 2-3 ton SUVs.

The timestamps are for another video on Ukraine. I've been seeing a lot of mistakes like this on your channel recently, I love the videos but you guys can do better than this!

@bababababababa6124

Жыл бұрын

Shouldn’t be surprised at TLDR mistakes lol

@bepobsk3680

Жыл бұрын

you mean the sources?

@eliasrutten3814

Жыл бұрын

@@bepobsk3680 They have removed the timestamps now, but yes also the sources in the video description

@rememberallende

Жыл бұрын

This is not surprising unfortunately, as they insist on running more and more channels (seven so far), rather than ensuring quality control. Which is a shame, as this tends to undermine their reputation needlessly.

@meneither3834

Жыл бұрын

Yeah they either need more people or to reduce the frequency of video.

I am an Estonian and an electrical engineering student graduating this year and one problem i can see arising from the car ban 2035 is that electric cars have gotten better but suffer from the same problem as all battery powered devices do in northern countries and that is that batteries hate cold depending on the quality an electric cars range can decrease by 25% during winter and the further north you go the bigger the drop. now i do not know the details if the ban if we are talking about also banning hybrids because if you are i can tell you this unless less battery technology evolves people in cold countries of the EU are gonna have to buy new cars more often then in warmer countries where battery life is longer

@dalstein3708

Жыл бұрын

The Norwegians do not seem to be bothered by this. A majority of new car sales in that country are EVs.

@krisdaschwab912

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry, with average temperatures on the rise, you won't have to worry about batteries freezing. :)

@goncalovazpinto6261

Жыл бұрын

Batteries hate cold, but people also hate cold. You have to keep your car and your phone inside the house where it's nice and comfy!

@kerstas10

Жыл бұрын

2035, specifically sais petrol and diesel. Nothing about internal combustion engine. You know ethanol exists

@dalstein3708

Жыл бұрын

@Zaydan Alfariz The issue wasn't the cost of EVs, but how well they work in cold weather.

I think the thing that hurts me the most is that 2015 was nearly a decade ago 💀

In Australia we have chronic infrastructure issues which could not support EV car ownership on a large scale or support the public majority in giving up cars as they are essential for transport. Public transport is poor and our spread of suburbs and towns relies on private transport. We are shutting down power stations with no viable replacement in order to satisfy unrealistic emission targets. Most people have no facility for charging EV's as there are few public chargers installed and a high percentage do not work. Most people rely on Public charge stations as the majority live in UNITS so cannot charge at home. With the increasing cost and unreliability of electricity the use of EV's is becoming increasingly problematic and EV's do not suit the requirements of most motorists here.

@McSlobo

Жыл бұрын

Build a couple of nuke plants. Will do miracles.

@Arclite02

Жыл бұрын

Canadian here, and literally everything you just said applies 100% here, as well. Huge nation, creaky infrastructure, garbage public transport, widespread population, obsession with impractical "green" power, barely any chargers, difficult home charging, power grid problems... All of it!

@ajstevens1652

Жыл бұрын

​@@McSlobo There's an idiotic anti-nuclear lobby that has held the country back for decades.

@MadnerKami

Жыл бұрын

Even Germany is lying to itself, when it thinks the problems you mentioned aren't applying to it. Public transportation, while being pretty good in the big cities here, is still a huge problem for the vast majority of people outside these cities. Charing for EVs outside of private homes is non-existant and will remain so for quite some time. And then there's the cost-factor of electric mobility, as it will still be quite a lot more expensive to get one such vehicle in the first place, so the mobility of a lot of low income people will suffer drastically. I for myself, am looking forward to scrapping my private mobility, as my job doesn't allow me a lot of planability with my freetime. I sometimes don't even know when my single day off work each week is, until the end of the week before. I entirely rely on my car to travel in my freetime, as public transportation without planability is prohibitively expensive.

I think this will backfire badly. EU is undermining their own golden mine. Most of EU countries are dependent on car manufacturing, either directly or non directly. If sales in cars drop, because people couldn't afford new cars, partially because of these standards, the economy will suffer a very serious punch.

Will 'only' add €100 to the cost of every car.... has anyone seen the cost of a new car these days? They're at least 150% of the prices before the pandemic.

@schnitzelsemmel

Жыл бұрын

is that the fault of the regulations?

@bzuidgeest

Жыл бұрын

Have you seen how much trash they put in those? Seat warmers, entertainment systems. You couldn't get a simple car if your life depended on it. Also a spike in price is not that strange in a market shift like this. New battery tech is coming out every day. And prices are dropping for batteries. Unfortunately it's china leading the way with energy density so, we likely are going to pay a lot of tax on that.

@GerbenWulff

Жыл бұрын

@@schnitzelsemmel At least some of it is. The EU has also mandated the use of so called 'safety systems' which on top of making cars less safe makes them significantly more expensive.

@SirBalageG

Жыл бұрын

@@GerbenWulff reducing fatal accidents by less cars on the road as people can't buy a new vehicle with honest earnings.

@todortodorov940

Жыл бұрын

That's why €100 is negligible increase in percentage of the car price

I'd like to see how that 100 Euro figure was calculated. That seems almost comically low.

@aleks5405

Жыл бұрын

Bureaucrat's 100€ is 1 000€ when talking about added expenses for the citizen and 10€ when talking about savings or giving money to citizens.

@seneca983

Жыл бұрын

I suspect you can find a document describing the methodology if you search for it hard enough. However, I'm too lazy to try to find it.

@ac1455

Жыл бұрын

Maybe, but even if the savings are only half as much as proposed it still heavily outweighs the cons. From the video France has the 2nd highest amount of workers in the industry and if they’re for it, then the savings must be substantial. I don’t think they would accept such a bill and the political backlash it’d entail unless they thought the savings were good enough.

@Sam-ip6co

Жыл бұрын

Because the just pulled it out of their ass

In the Netherlands they're set on not selling diesel cars for 2025. The most diesel vehicles are work vans and there just isn't enough of a market let alone a second hand market for all those small companies with just one or two vans to go electric.

@dpt6849

Жыл бұрын

Jettenviezeflikkerziterachter

I love that the chapters of this video are the ones from the previous one LMAO.

@sarantis1995

Жыл бұрын

Maybe it's a KZread bug, cause I noticed the same thing on a "good times bad timea" video yesterday

TLDR, the EU doesn't use the NEDC anymore, it uses the more realistic WLTP. Pretty silly mistake to make. Also, Euro 6 has been updated many times, we are on 6d now.

@js986

Жыл бұрын

NEDC was discussed in the context of Euro 1 when it very much was the EU cycle of choice. WLTP is relatively new and didn't exist even when Euro 6 was introduced, don't think this is a mistake, perhaps an omission for clarity.

Germany a proponent of Green transition? Perhaps in their own, warped definition of "green" which means replacing nuclear energy with new coal mines.

@Eagle6Airsoft

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that was what happens when you respond to public out cry. Nuclear = bad. When in fact it’s one on the cleanest ways to produce energy.

@yarpen26

Жыл бұрын

The (West) German post-war pacifist movement was directly funded by the USSR and was tasked with ensurimg that US nukes not be stationed in Germany in order not to disturb a Soviet invasion of the West, and when that failed, they switched their attention to nuclear energy because a nuclear power grid in Germany means a not Russia-reliant Germany.

@marnig9185

Жыл бұрын

😂 0,7% of electrticity in germany is nuke made 60% is Wind and solar and 20% goes to France because of financel problems with there nuclear powerplans,please check ur numbers.

@Jompe69

Жыл бұрын

Germany is the most anti green countries in EU. They make lots of fossil fuel private cars and burn lots of coal. Nuclear plants shutting down, it's just another win for them. Not everybody in the EU wants to be 100% reliant on russian/OPEC on transportation and energy

@CakeAddict

Жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing when I heard that line.

I feel like this can only go through with promises to support the construction of public transportation

@stephenson19861

Жыл бұрын

The public transportation will never, ever, enable you to travel on your own terms.

I find it funny that the car on the thumbnail is the last remaining icon of American muscle (though I do know Mustangs of the S550 generation are decently popular in Europe) rather than a domestic European car.

@alexfraser2214

Жыл бұрын

I think the point is that they will be banned because they are dirty af

@mikestone6078

Жыл бұрын

I think the point was just clickbait. Like with the hilarious title of the video. A Civil War? Really? And nobody wants to ban cars in general. But that's apparently potato - potato, if you need a catchy title. I usually really like the reporting style, but I HATE this type of hyperbole. That's not what news should be like.

@nicklibby3784

Жыл бұрын

​@@mikestone6078​​ Nah, bro. No hyperbole, here. There is gon be a civil war in Europe. One side The Union(European Union) and one side The Confederacy (Confederation of Europe). The C.E. will fight for the right to use cars and also support pro child labor laws and also be anti-immigration unless it is useful for their economy and labor, the C.E. will also fight to support regulations and laws that will help support their agriculture economy to thrive and survive. Then the E.U. will fight against all of that. It is like American civil war, but European Union. Good luck. Can't believe the European Union is too dumb to figure out what was already figured out almost 200 years ago...... WOW, embarrassing! Unbelievable!

@st-ex8506

Жыл бұрын

@@mikestone6078 Fully support your point of view!

@unconventionalideas5683

Жыл бұрын

There are other forms, mainly the Camaro and the Challenger and the Charger, but the reality is that in the US, these cars are no longer selling.

When they stop flying in Private jets I will reduce how much I use my car.

8:32 requiring sacrifices, that is what the elites said before the French Revolution. Why need bread , you can have the lesser “cake” If everybody had bread that would ruin the food supply.

It's ok, but it's idiotic to put the burden of pollution only on the consumer. Major industries are to blame for most of the pollution.

@zjeee

Жыл бұрын

The politicians drafting suggestions like this fly private jets which is one of the dirtiest modes of transport on the planet when commercial flights and trains are available.

@purplehaze8557

Жыл бұрын

@@zjeee Exactly. That's why the EU created an exemption for private jets when it comes to fuel tax. Most cretins commenting here don't realize that.

My cynical take on this here in finland is that it will not be that much of an issue, because it feels like new cars are barely bought anyway, and used cars are rotated constantly.

@gargoyle7863

Жыл бұрын

I assume you have insane taxes on new cars?

@juliushakala5148

Жыл бұрын

​@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket You think every Finn can afford a brand new car😂?

So what about underdeveloped or developing nations? They will give zero Fs about green transition. We will sacrifice our economy to have no impact on emissions

@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic1139

2 ай бұрын

That's a small price to enslave the population and rule as god kings of EU

Tbh I am way more supportive of euro7 then of the total car ban. I especially like the breake pads limits, because they are the main source of certain particulates, especially in cities. In fact, I would hope to see those back ported to euro 6 in some way, perhaps as euro 6b and make that mandatory. I would also like to see more exemptions for busses and coaches, with emissions calculated per person perhaps

@obelic71

Жыл бұрын

They just have to go full hybrid and install a small ICE electric generator charging the small batterypack. That would reduce emissions in cities (100% electric drive) The weight disadvantage of full electric vehicels who have more wear and tear on road surfaces and tyres would also be reduced. A step further would even be to have a liqued oxygen tank to prevent Nox emissions of the ICE generator. A fine tuned ICE can run on the ideal rpm for max torq/fuel efficiency. Diesel-electric propulsion most used on locomotives and ocean going ships have proven that concept for a almost 100 years now. Its also possible to retrofit older cars.

@rudysmith1552

Жыл бұрын

Stunning Europes car Industry will lead to Europe losing the last major industry they dominate to China,Japan,and the Us. Most of Europe doesn’t have the good fundamentals of Japan in order to avert the aging crisis taking away the last industry Europe dominates is idiotic. BYD will be glad to fill the gap heavy regulation will put on the European car industry.

@rudysmith1552

Жыл бұрын

I live in Australia and I wouldn’t care about The Mercedes brand name if it means I get a better car from China

@thebloody0076

Жыл бұрын

Look, it is none of the politicians' business what we drive, what we eat and what we wear. I hope you don't belong to this communist climate sect which wants to turn us 100 years back in time !!

@McSlobo

Жыл бұрын

Tires produce a ton more particulates than anything else in cars. Also streets are turned into dust , esp. where winter is a thing.

“Sorry poor people. Just buy a €30,000 Tesla lol”

@purplehaze8557

Жыл бұрын

More like 60k...

@captainheat2314

9 ай бұрын

And 10K battery replacement every 5 to 10 years so between €80 to 160 a month and the €2/kWH we will be paying by 2030

@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic1139

2 ай бұрын

If you can't afford bread, eat cakes

Car ownership in Europe has become extremely costly in the past 20 years. And I don't believe for a minute that cars will cost only 100 euros more under these new EU specifications.

@antunnutna2376

Жыл бұрын

Yeah if you want a new car. Or you can be smart and get an old Toyota like I did and spend just 50 euros on yearly oil and filters LOL.

@mikethespike7579

Жыл бұрын

@@antunnutna2376 Toyota manufactures really good cars, they last a long time. You made a good choice.

@antunnutna2376

Жыл бұрын

@@mikethespike7579 true they make real workhorses.

Get ready to have no car and go for the bus, this is ridiculous

Problem is not only the prices, in Europe the prices of cars are quite expensive not only to buy them but also all the tax that comes above the car prices when buying one then you have road tax and the prices for fuel which is very expensive and then insurance. Most people I know buy older cars newer cars are often from company lease. That said the problem is also the power that is needed for all those electric cars most of the power network and the power stations cannot provide the power that is needed for a billion cars within the EU.

please make a follow up in the future!

im all for this, but changing things too fast has often failed in the past.

Also weird how they measure only car immediate pollution factors but not the pollution from “utilizing” batteries

Finally something the Czech Republic does right, thumbs up for Vondra 👍. This directive is not about protecting environment, but about destruction of personal transport, it is designed to increase inequality. Make the West richer and the East poorer. No wonder that biggest proponents are countries that don't produce cars like Belgium or Netherlands.

@orionbetelgeuse1937

21 күн бұрын

and how will be the west richer?

Love your content!

"Only add 100€ for the cost of every car" I want that in writing and any additional cost should be taken from the salaries of the decision makers, even post-retirement.

@Barwasser

Жыл бұрын

where can I sign your petition? Because that sounds like a bs statistic no matter how I look at it.

Im 100% sure that these car company’s could keep all those jobs but they had to actually change the way the work would have to be done and that’s to expansive for them so they just fire a load of ppl to save money.

@brawlgammer4424

Жыл бұрын

If they want to fire people, they will. We've seen this over and over.

I bet everything i got that the rich will still get to keep their sports cars and private jets, only us "peasants" will have to go get the bus.

@NiekNooijens

Жыл бұрын

Well I sold my car and went to Japan and the rail system is heaven here! Cheap, clean, convenient and quiet. I'd be an idiot if I'd use a car here!

@ismimiokumaktazamankaybetm5939

Жыл бұрын

@@NiekNooijens ok. Let us idiots be idiots and let us just get a bit of happiness from driving our cars every now and then.

The crazy thing is that cars (personal cars... for personal leisure) are only necessary as we built society solely around them... In a world where many can work remotely and where the majority of people live in densely urban places (cities that can be designed to have everything you need within walking/bicycle distance). Cars just end up being quite useless. I owned a car since it was expected of me in society as a milestone of "growing up". However, I quickly realized it just turned into a financial liability, especially when living in a bike friendly city, where I have everything I need close by... I wish more city dwellers would come to this conclusion as well, and countries start to design their cities around walkability instead of cars. Sure, car manufacturing has been key to offer jobs and financial profits, however, one thing we don't talk about is the complete societal cost of car ownersship... There was a EU study that deemed that for every EUR you spent on your car, society needed to pay 8.90EUR. This is a stark contrast from public transits 1.9EUR and bikes only costing 0.90EUR This insane financial burden put on society is hidden and massive for a tiny-, but ultimately inefficient luxury. Cars don't need to be banned. but we could ban them from city centres, or city cores. Focusing on making cities walkable with good transit and rental bike systems. Just imagining listening to birds chirping in the city instead of the constant loud white noise of these 2 ton killing machines.

@Pentium100MHz

Жыл бұрын

This was already done in the USSR - "walkable" cities, very few people had cars, OK public transport. As soon as the USSR collapsed and it was possible to buy a car for the average person, everyone bought cars.

@Menno_3

Жыл бұрын

Come to the Netherlands and enjoy your car-free (or less car dependent at least) life.

@Hardcore_Remixer

Жыл бұрын

Or at least make the public transport better and better as we start banning cars. Imagine having a bus in every city instead of 10 cars and a train instead of 30 cars. Here in Romania someone told me that people prefer to use their cars as umbrelas. Basically, cars have come to be a more comfortable way to travel and not necesarily a faster one (imagine being locked in traffic instead of taking the subway train).

@romanbukins6527

Жыл бұрын

Banning cars from cities is a horrible idea for those who work in a city but can't afford city rents.

@carl4243

Жыл бұрын

​@Menno_3 but when the Netherlands come to your country during vacations, expect a large number of cars coming out of that country.

Title is deceptive. The ban would be specific to combustion cars. The title implies that it would be a ban on all cars

Make electrical cars affordable for every day citizen and then we can talk about banning diesel/petrol cars.

@bloodforfeit4756

Жыл бұрын

Or better yet, viable public transportation so we won't need cars to begin with

@MadnerKami

Жыл бұрын

@@bloodforfeit4756 I prefer my individual mobility, thank you very much. I work in close contact with people all the time and I need my privacy during my off-time.

@acetylcoa6540

Жыл бұрын

@@bloodforfeit4756 I want my own automobile, thanks.

@Roel_Scoot

Жыл бұрын

Electrical cars can be much cheaper if you ditch the excessive luxury and performance.

@gargoyle7863

Жыл бұрын

Chinese manufactures are working in on it.

Well, if the public transport becomes really green and covers the whole totality of the urban centers and its wide enough to carry massive populations, some areas of cities can probably closed to cars. Some historical centers in Italy are already closed to traffic.

I just had my engine revised, it will run another 10 years. And it WILL run another 10 years. I am not buying a car with the current battery tech.

You'd think that the main car manufacturers would welcome any changes that mean that cars get out of date faster than naturally. Once euro 7 is implemented, city centers (and other emission control zones) can start banning any cars that have only euro 6 and below. That would lead to more people needing (or wanting) new cars earlier than if they just had to replace wear and tear. Also, with how China (as a country, not necessarily as a car manufacturer) is kind of known for the opposite of clean power production, you'd think that stricter emission standards in the EU would make it _harder_ for overseas car manufacturers to export to Europe. It's always easier to leave out a new particulate filter or other newly developed component from your export products than to retrofit it into them.

We’re not in Europe anymore, so why should new laws?

Forget about the car industry , doesn't anyone ever consider people who live in rural areas ?

@michah321

3 ай бұрын

They don't care. They just want us out of personal vehicles. Even better if everyone is forced to live in the city. They don't think people should be allowed to live in the country

@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic1139

2 ай бұрын

You mean the paesants? Screw them. Important thing is that rich people fly their private jets.

I would like to get rid of my car, but only if I can walk to the grocery store, there is a lot of public transportation, and delivery services. About this video a couple of things: a) If fossil fuel burning cars are banned then the remaining trucks, and busses don't have to meet such strict standards anymore. b) Some parts of the US have power grid issues in summer because of air conditioning. So then what happens when everyone starts charging their cars ? Doesn't that question apply to some parts of Europe too ?

@SirBalageG

Жыл бұрын

coming from the electrical engineer's aspect, EVs are the cancer of the power grid, as anybody can charge their toaster at any time, you can't schedule for that, either the system collapses due to too high or too low voltages, both are bad for the average Joe

@danz1182

Жыл бұрын

This is all predicated on a theory that necessity will drive invention. The fact we need more battery materials will drive the invention of new types of batteries using materials more efficiently or using different materials. The need for more electricity, even though it is at certain hours only, will drive increased grid capacity, etc. Right now we don't have ready access to enough lithium for this transition and it takes 15 years for a new lithium mine to start producing ore. Right now, the grid in the US cannot support everyone getting home from work and plugging in their car and there are no plans at present to add capacity to the US grid. The US is struggling to replace the coal-based generating capacity it has with renewables as it is. Most likely outcome here is this passes and then goes through a series of 3-5 year delays until the technology can match the dream or the machines used to make new cars start to wear out. Maybe the EU is in better shape on the grid, but the lack of battery materials is a problem that needs to be solved.

@CIS101

Жыл бұрын

@@danz1182 Thank you. I tend to agree, and I guess we really can't compare the US to Europe. Regarding new Lithium mines, why does it take 15 years for them to start producing ore ?

@InTimeTraveller

Жыл бұрын

@@SirBalageG from an electrical engineer's aspect this is bull. First of all you can schedule when EVs start charging and also with the advent of smart grids (which as an electrical engineer you must have heard of them), the EVs can even work as a distributed battery and in that way stabilising the grid and thus saving it. Second, production follow demand, so current production figures can not be used to gauge the max capacity of the network. What is needed though is an upgrade on the transmission lines so that more renewables can be added. Renewables are geographically dependent so sometimes they happen to be located far away from demand centers so more high capacity transmission networks are needed. And for sure improvements and investments are needed but nobody said these things aren't coming.

@SirBalageG

Жыл бұрын

​@@InTimeTraveller in reality, Europe is fixated on natural gas and oil, those infrastructures had been prioritized, the electrical grid can wait in the opinion of decision makers. Current distribution infra doesn't allow large scale EV charging, as let's say a car charges with 7kW at home, meanwhile an average 2 person household uses about 7 kWh a day, maybe more in the western countries, but let's say this is a correct number. Even a Dacia Spring, the most basic EV has a 28 kWh accumulator, it can be charged either every day or once a week. If you charge it on the weekend AND you stay at home because well, you don't have a car to use, and you charge the car for 4 hours with a 7 kW charger, you almost use as much electricity as you've used on the weekdays altogether. People won't charge cars during the day, because, people. So you either overplan the infrastructure for 20% peak time where people charge their cars, while in the other 80% of the time, you get overvoltage due to low usage OR you plan for the 80% downtime, like all suppliers, and experience low voltages during peak time, even shutting down whole neighborhoods. Smart grid is a nice concept, I'm writing my thesis in it, it's about both consumption and production scheduling, I found that Smart scheduling with current day technology is not possible, or if it is possible then it's expensive even for the top 1% of users. Hydrogen is the black horse, but I got my bets on it, despite all the bullshit people like to spread about it. It's available whenever you want and refueling doesn't shunt the whole neighborhood. It's all a matter of money, which people don't have in the current economic situation, and it won't really change in the next 4-5 years. Maybe, in the end of the decade we'll see some good, affordable accumulators for household usage, but until then, EVs are cancer for the electric grids, smart grid operations are unaffordable and EVs are overpriced

I foresee a massive market in older vehicles

This will be an interesting shift in automotives as this is on a continent scale. The possibility of this happening I think is stronger in some parts of Europe like Scandinavia and France and Spain only because those places to me seem more willing to embrace a ban on emission vehicles. I can see Europe eventually implementing a ban across the continent on account of the EU's efficient bureaucracy (least we North Americans have that idea) and of course good relations with China and other nations with large amounts of CREE's (Critical Rae Earth Elements). Here in North America we often only hear about the Californians implementing a ban on emission vehicles which many people see as a fairytale for the reasons along "It will be unaffordable for many people" and rightly so.

@w8stral

Жыл бұрын

Everyone has rare earth minerals. They are not rare. Come out of ground with other mining activity. In fact many of them are more common than nickel or copper. Due to regulations, only ~1 nation is refining them. USA used to refine them all until in 1980 classified them as essentially radioactive Uranium.... Get rid of that moronic law and refining will come back.

How often in history did "economist" warn that changes to the status quo will ruin everything? If we would believe them we would still have 80 hour weeks and child labour

@hedydd2

Жыл бұрын

Many still do work 80 hour weeks. Children do miss out on the work ethic these days and therefore assume that they get everything for little effort.

@David_Box

Жыл бұрын

​@@hedydd2 children yearn for the mines

@chaos_monster

Жыл бұрын

​@@hedydd2 I don't know were to start with this comment, but let's focus on your "argument" that because children are not forced to work, their ethics lack? This is so absurd I can't comprehend this other than assuming you're a troll

@DomR1997

Жыл бұрын

​@@hedydd2 this is the most ignorant thing I've read this year, and it really illustrates your lack of children. Then again, who would want to have children with someone who says such stupid shit in public?

@hedydd2

Жыл бұрын

@@chaos_monster Children should be allowed to work with their parents where such suitable work exists for them. Believe me, the work, as opposed to the games console lifestyle ethic makes a massive difference to a child’s prospects in later life and school.

The reason US regulations on car emissions are easier to implement/follow is because the US EPA only job is regulate pollutants. While at the same EPA and the State of California have strict and specific rules for car emissions. The main one is air quality has to come from real world driving emissions collected by car computers. But again having just the EPA and the State of California simplifies matters and makes regulating and reducing car emissions easier, plus the US doesn't really do diesel passenger cars like the EU.

I thought that demand drives up production and drives down prices? So is the issue that they wouldn’t be able to create new vehicles and keep staffing levels up, possibly even higher to keep up with new demand, or is the issue that their bottom line would suffer?

@noseboop4354

Жыл бұрын

Not everyone wants to buy an EV. EV is perfect if you are rich and own your home in the city. If you're poor and live in an apartment, you either struggle to find a good place to plug overnight or have to use fast charging stations which are very expensive, costs almost as much as gas. If you live in a rural area, you likely need to tow stuff around and EV is terrible at doing that, can barely last 1 hour towing some wood before needing a recharge, and recharge stations are sparse in rural areas. So these people are likely to repair their combustion cars/trucks as long as possible and not buy an EV for a long time.

@TheDestillers

Жыл бұрын

@@noseboop4354 Good thing this doesn't kick in for another 12 years then. Plenty of time for prices to go down and infrastructure to go up. And for car owners to use their current car and plan for their next

Perfectly fits in well with 15 minutes city prisions

It to late for Europe Ev is in Europe is green but will fall short......oil isnt going anywhere, gas isnt going anywhere in gact mire gas is being used......

Well... Couldn't they just implement 2 grades of euro 7? The planned version as 7+. As a best if you can reach it, and government around the world could say we want E7+ even if you sell E7.

@thebloody0076

Жыл бұрын

Look, it is none of the politicians' business what we drive, what we eat and what we wear. I hope you don't belong to this communist climate sect which wants to turn us 100 years back in time !!

I will probably not be able to afford buying an electric car in my lifetime… My cars are generally 20+ years old

Why are people trying to ban cars tho just create another mode of transport and let people who want to drive car own them

@ak5659

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Car owners leave their cars at home and take puplic transport when it's more practical.

I always bought about 10 year old cars and already these are getting less affordable because of a shortage of benzine cars. But if I go and buy an electric car from 10 years old: what will be left of the battery capacity? And what if that breaks down? I can't afford a new battery pack. And those battery packs? They bring heavy pollution: the source of the materials isn't exactly "clean" and the disposal is the same story.

Half of Europe drive 20+ year old car with that being said I can't wait to see how that plays out.😅😂😂😂

Don’t “check engine” lights come on whenever catalysts fail and cars begin emitting more? It sounds a bit like requiring lifetime emissions reporting may be putting a hat on a hat, though modifying the tests and having no set testing procedure could potentially accomplish the goal of eliminating cheating.

What about mechanical engineer do they loss there job as the go from ic engine to electrical car?

I just prefer travelling alone without being pushed into tiny uncomfortable and loud public transports with strangers. Also a car brings me everywhere without timetable a directly where else with public transports I have to change multiple times and I am stuck to a special route and time table. Still, not getting to the place I need to without finding solutions for the last mile. All, with whatever stuff I am carrying with me. Even in a traffic jam I do have my personal space and music. No need to engage with other people. - I don’t like the ideas of people who what to make a car only available to “the right” people but not to the rest.

@MadnerKami

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, same here. Public transport caters to planability and daily commute, but completely fucks with everything else. I work in a job where I am constantly surrounded by people, their needs and demands and low planability of free-time and I'd like to have my private space after work and in my free-time and the ability to go where I please whenever I can. Last thing I need is paying three times the price of a ticket someone else had the ability to buy two weeks ahead of time and then sitting in the cramped compartement (me being a 120kg 1.9m person) of a train or bus along with the sound and smell of other people.

As Bulgarian, I am severely disappointed in the position that the Republic is taking on this

I would love to not have to drive a car, but the public transport here are quite bad.

It is clear Euro 7 will come, most German manufacturers plan an end of combustion engine cars by 2030. the question of exemptions for e-fuels was brought up but it is unlikely they will play any significant role in the future. It is also not clear if exemptions will even be included in the regulation, at the moment it seems like it will not be the case after all.

Honestly, with so many members being against it, who agreed to it in the first place? Also, as an ecologist and climatologist by training - I am all for any green solution. But a complete ban like this? Surely that's gonna lead to more petrol and diesel cars staying in circulation much longer, making it so that more older cars roam the streets. Also, how would we power all the electric cars? The network is simply not built for that yet. And all the same rules for all vehicles? Like... Small and large cars will have the same limit on emissions? Wouldn't that mean that instead of sending one large lorry, the logistics company will just send two smaller ones since together they can produce twice as many emissions?

@zjeee

Жыл бұрын

It's already a given that it will not pass, it's not realistic. Probably the idea was set a very ambitious exgtreme goal so when it gets watered down as it inevitably will it will still be at a decent level.

@thebloody0076

Жыл бұрын

Why the hell do you want to cut emissions ?! It has nothing to do with weather/climate change. There is no correlation between emissions and the temperature ! The world emissions are rising anyways because large Asian (China and India) and African countries are emitting more and more. If your theory was true, there should be a drought and a heat wave. None of that is happening, it is actually really cold and wet in Europe right now (with world;s emissions rising). Note the fact that EU's share of emissions is only 5-6% globally which is tiny like a "drop in the ocean" and EU's share is constantly declining because (others are not cutting emissions) nobody else in the world believes in this neo-communist ideology. Either way EU's emissions are utterly insignificant. Go to Asia and Africa and tell them to cut emissions !!!!

Got to say you sound super pro Euro 7

@purplehaze8557

Жыл бұрын

This channel is a safe-space for the EU uber alles crowd.

The thing is, biggest problem about cars and climate is the fuel itself. Crude oil adds carbon into the atmosphere, while if we did use oils from renewable, biological sources, it would be not far from neutrality We could throw it all on stop - gap synthetic oil, and ban crude oil altogether by 2030 - 2035. CO2 emissions and trade deficits will already nosedive.

What do you mean "there hasn't been much on it in the English speaking press"? Ireland is in the EU and English speaking, and there has been quite a few stories on the subject.

Chapters seem to be off xD

about the germany thing. Nobody in germany wished the e-fuel thing except for the party of FDP and the car brand Porsche. Every other car company was against e-fuels. ( idk about the euro7 position of germany) and my thoughts about euro 7 is as long it does not benefit bigger cars like it is done in its efficiancy scale. where heavier cars are better scaled because of their motor and it transports the weight more effician than a smaller Skoda Fabia with a enginge perfect for the car and less fuel consumption overall but on the lower tip of the scala because it does not weight as much compared to others. ( idk if my english is good enought that you could understand it)

@thebloody0076

Жыл бұрын

Look, it is none of the politicians' business what we drive, what we eat and what we wear. I hope you don't belong to this communist climate sect which wants to turn us 100 years back in time !!

@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece

Жыл бұрын

That's redundant, the FDP is just Porsche.

@purplehaze8557

Жыл бұрын

This encourages carmakers to let go of the production of small cars (already a trend btw).

I think, a video about E-Fuels would be interesting...

Good idea. They should eliminate all pollution except mine.

Carbon neutral I already have a pretty hard time imagining it'll ever happen, but "Climate neutral" is just insane... xD

It bans selling NEW diesel and petrol cars by 2035. Hopefully by 2055 when I am over 60 I will be able to buy an EV? Edit: Maybe a tandem e-bike 😂

@G59METH

Жыл бұрын

I hope that by 2035 I'll be either living outside of European Union or dead

Hey @TLDR can you please dig deeper into what what the car manufacturers are afraid to loose. There will still be a need for cars, they will be different, but still.

It's so stupid, Germany should switch to e-mobility especially BECAUSE we have such a big car industry, none electric cars will be a novelty in the near future and no one will buy German cars anymore, I wonder how many jobs THAT will cost.

I'm absolutely for the change as long as the money saved goes to more efficient public transport and bike lanes🚴

@charlotteinnocent8752

Жыл бұрын

I agree, but the public transport need to come before the petrol car ban. Poorer people can't afford to buy electric, and if the buses aren't there YET... The public transportation needs to precede the new rules.

@rudysmith1552

Жыл бұрын

@@charlotteinnocent8752 Regulations Have consequences BYD and Cadillac can replace my Mercedes. And most lower end consumers Will gladly replace Volkswagen for Honda

@kingofohio5689

Жыл бұрын

You communist

@jakubzov

Жыл бұрын

​@Sparks doubt that. This will only hurt us from Easter n Europe

@charlotteinnocent8752

Жыл бұрын

@@rudysmith1552 Still not a plane

That would be catastrophic especially for countries like greece which 9/10 people have old second hand cars

Tldr needs to talk about Ecosia they are a search engine that plants trees

Time is running out, 2050 is too far away, more radical and swift changes are needed, from banning cars to making public transportation better so the car problem can be tackled in two fronts

@useodyseeorbitchute9450

Жыл бұрын

What you suggest may indeed lead to radical and shift changes. Though they would most likely involve throwing away all those champagne socialists and embracing something more patriotic.

I never had a car and if I buy one now I'll be hoocked too. I don't want that.

@ak5659

Жыл бұрын

Sweetie, most people puy oars becouse they need to, not want to.

Random fact about Germany in this topic. It's one (the smallest coalition partner) party of the government that pushes for this BS

@rainerzufall42

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm mad, that these small party extremists can hold the whole government, country, and even the EU hostage!

Ambitious? Net zero by 2050 is the absolute bare minimum.

As long as profit is the main driver of our economy and operations, the climate will continue to suffer. Infinite growth is what the current system demands but it's simply not possible on a finite planet.

Meanwhile BYD sold 10,000 of it's budget Seagull micro hatch in a day. Honestly if the EU doesn't get on with electrifying it's transport sector China will do it for them.

@paul1979uk2000

Жыл бұрын

This is it, the electric car industry is moving ahead, regardless of the old guard trying to hold things back. If these companies are not careful with dragging their feet, they could put themselves at a major disadvantaged compared to rivals that do push hard on electric cars. What the EU is doing is trying to light the fire under them so they move quickly to electric cars, otherwise, rivals from the US and China will eat up the market. My next car is going to be electric and because of that, the ones that don't push in that sector won't get a look in from consumers like me. In any case, if these companies and governments are worried about job losses now, imagine how bad it will be if most consumers end up only wanting to buy electric cars and these companies are not ready for it, most consumers could look at rivals from the US and China for their next car, I certainly would if these European car companies don't get their act together and this is going to be more the case as more consumers put more solar up, many will want to power their house and electric cars by that, if they produce enough energy. All that is going to make petrol and diesel cars very unappealing, especially on running cost. But seriously, how many of us are really going to want to buy a petrol or diesel car by 2035? By then, electric cars should be quite good and decent price.

Every politician should be required to read and write a book report on "Applied Economics: Thinking Beyond Stage One" by Thomas Sowell. It would solve most of the problems government creates.

@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece

Жыл бұрын

I have something better: They should have to wear the logos of their sponsors publicly like sports teams.

For those of us that use Noah Webster's dictionary a lorrie is a big rig.

More environmental and financial savings will occur if there are AFFORDABLE & EFFICIENT methods of public transport.