I was a designated marksman in the 4th RCT in the late 1950s, armed with this Garand. An oddly designed rifle unit that never was a weapon of high value. Company armorer reminded me many times to never fire blanks in this weapon - the barrel was a close tolerance barrel and blanks raised hell with the rifling. Never had a flash hider. The MI was a fantastic rifle way out to 500+ yards - just forget the scope and lace-on cheekpiece.

I like your long videos with lots of history commentary the best.

@larrymcjones

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely the best. I enjoy the history just as much as looking at the inner mechanics

@TactWendigo

2 жыл бұрын

Same. I prefer the history side unless the guns function is really bizarre. Once you've messed with a few different firearms mechanics, you've messed with most of them.

This is in the game Insurgency: Sandstorm now. Really cool to see the flash hider design is also realistic. Just like the one in this video.

@GHOST01LE

Жыл бұрын

Huh I know I'm a year late but I never actually thought you would watch one of his videos

@dr3144

Жыл бұрын

@@GHOST01LE i’m 2 years late and share the same sentiment

@calebmcallister4289

5 ай бұрын

​​@@dr3144im 3 years late i agree

The 3 people that disliked were springfield armoury engineers.

@dscrappygolani7981

4 жыл бұрын

Guess Springfield has been recruiting new people to dislike this rifle. Up to 38 now.

@adrianp7475

3 жыл бұрын

@@dscrappygolani7981 47

Always love to learn more about the M1 and its variants! Thanks for the video.

Once again, Ian, thank you! You never cease to amaze me with how many videos you create, covering all of these fascinating new weapons I'm discovering. I really love your passion. Thanks for everything!

I'm lovin' this run of sniper rifle reviews-very interesting. I also thought the 37 mm pom pom had to be a description mistake-what a beast. Looking forward to M 1d and a M 14 sniper one day if you haven't already( read a article that they would put IR filters on search lights in Vietnam and use M 14 sniper)

Nice that it had a cheek pad

After many years wonder I found that the M-1 was given to me during my service in 1972 was M1C. The side holes for screw were closed surprisingly the accuracy was very high with peep sight only.

The Alaskan Lyman scopes also made it onto a batch of Canadian made Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 T rifles after periodically running short on No32 scopes. If I'm not mistaken, that vertical post (at least on some of the Canadian ones) was a type of sewing needle.

"you need to clean your table man" is what went through my head before I wiped the ash from my screen. Interesting to see such a process in different regions.. Would be interesting to know if the manufacturer skipped some of the steps to meet deadlines..

When sportsmen first started buying Garands, G&H reintroduced a version of their M1 side mount. It required drilling & tapping as did the M1C mount, placed the optic more centrally, and had a longitudinal hinge that allowed the whole optic to be tilted to the left to clear the way of inserting a fresh clip. There was a detent or lock to retain it in the firing position. IIRC, the bottom edge was milled with an angle that facilitated ejection. I remember seeing their ads in the Rifleman.

These seem sort of like a precursor to the concept picking a rifle as a companion piece for dedicated sniper rifles, in a way. As you mentioned, it could serve as a regular combat tool if necessary, and that that factor was important to the selection committee. I had heard about the M1cs and Ds, but more about the D-model, so filling in some gaps in my knowledge - thank you! :)

"Have to have a really accurate gun to have an effective sniper rifle" Simo Hayha: Hold my goblet of Russian tears...

@alexdemoya2119

4 жыл бұрын

Simo had a Finnish mosin-nagant, not a russian made one. Massively superior build quality.

@hunter5502000

4 жыл бұрын

Finnish mosins had improved triggers, shimmed actions, floated barrels, etc. They were supposed to shoot 1.3 moa or better from the factory.

@Rutherford_Inchworm_III

4 жыл бұрын

@@_Jebb_ Hayha was as much a scout/commando type as he was a sniper; his rifle was iron-sighted, his average kill distance was just 100-150m and he killed as many with his Suomi 9mm SMG as he did with the Mosin. Swishing around on skis in the dark, stealth and speed were his greatest skills. He could create panic in the Russians by hitting them in just the right place at just the right time. A very different role for a sniper than what many imagine.

@Morningstar_Actual

4 жыл бұрын

Finnish mosins are much more accurate but you also need to realize that back then, the bores were fresh, now ~80 (on the young end) they’re all shot to shit. But even now if you get your hands on a nice clean mosin with a lightly used barrel, you’ll see they’re great rifles, just remember as well, the mosin came factory zeroed WITH the bayonet

@sergeireischel1610

4 жыл бұрын

This Simo guy performance is in a fact way too exaggerated

Love that post scope, my first good deer rifle had a Buris (or was it Bushnell, I forget, getting old now ) with popup post, I simply could not miss a deer or antelope with that 25-06 Churchill Manlicher stock spoon bolt, cheap ass steel in the bolt that wore out long before I wanted to give her up for a Remington in the same caliber (for some reason I fell in love with the 25-06 for an open plains deer rifle!)

@merlemorrison482

7 жыл бұрын

Bushnell had a pop-up - it was called the "command post"

really nice condition , so glad you have not run out of interesting guns. good videos as always

@Face2theScr33n

4 жыл бұрын

No such thing as "running out of interesting guns". Long live The Forgotten!

Once again, thanks Ian, A solid history lesson has begun. I just have to say that I spent 27yrs in the US Navy, and I respect the USMC for everything that they were worth. And they are worth everything. Because life is short. And they are bullet sponges. I liked my life, with 3 meals a day, nice quarters, and no one shooting at my Ass.

@dalesubic345

7 жыл бұрын

Life is what it is.

@gravelydon7072

7 жыл бұрын

Not all in the Navy were that lucky. Even in peace time there have been many a Navy guy killed by hostile fire. Ask the guys of the Liberty, Pueblo, or EC-121 flights. And during WW II the Navy lost a lot of guys on ships. Not in numbers like the Marines but ships are targets too.

An excellent in depth review. Thanks

Excellent and informative. Thank you.

The flash hider locks up like the grenade launcher we use to make back here. Fayscott Landers in Dexter Maine made many of the launchers, I was curious if the hider said where it was made.

The ease and compactness of that mount makes me wish they would have made that factory stock with the m1 garand. You could just grab the little scope out of your pocket and slide it right on that mount with little loss to zero and easily take out farther targets

I really like this sniper rifle series. Very interesting to get to know scope (attachment) technology. Is there a good starting point (text book, novel, documentation - doesn't have to be profound, but can be) on how WWII sniping worked? I am especially interested in the European theater.

I want one of these SO badly!

Ian it's been a while from when i was reading the the Garand Collectors Association stuff... but I think the SA-52 stamping on the receiver was what they did to the new old stock receivers when they updated the manufacturing drawings. They went back and re-certified all the old stock and marked them with the year of the update to show they passed re-inspection.

@gravelydon7072

7 жыл бұрын

The SA-52 is the rebuild marks of SA. There were any number of reasons they could have been sent back including things like a cracked stock. Not all SA-52 marked receivers were on M1Cs. The SA-52 does not mean it was a USMC rebuild. Those would have an O-6X marking on the heel.

I have seen Training Films from the early Bundeswehr showing what i think is an m1c being fired next to g1 (fal) and what they then still called mg42. The film was from 1957 or 1958 i believe.

One error, the SA52 marking is a rebuild stamp where existing M1C receivers were plugged and turned into normal service M1's. Some were bare receivers and some were de-sniper'd M1C's. This rifle is a restoration and did not leave military service as a Sniper.

@danielbeck9191

Жыл бұрын

Interesting!

well done ! Thank you

and if you make a vídeo " forgotten calibers " ?

@counterstrifekid

7 жыл бұрын

more like a video series

@brunoferreiro4162

7 жыл бұрын

For sure

@Vnix

4 жыл бұрын

this is a good idea.

@Redmenace96

3 жыл бұрын

Just watched a YT 50 min video on ammunition development. I really wish FW would do more on calibers, loads, and development of manufacturing. It seems just as important as the weapons which fire them.

I know a lot of hand loading went on in Vietnam but I have never heard of that in WWI WWII or Korea. With a bolt action rifle you can go to a much slower burning powder and heavy for caliber bullet and its very different animal from 30-06 loaded for U.S. gas guns which for all intents and purposes is ballistically equal to 7.62 NATO (subsonic well short of 1000yds). Which is why they used Winchester Model 70 and Remington 700s in Nam.

@edbecka233

10 ай бұрын

The Garand has a narrow range of powders that work in its "preferred" pressure curve. If you go much slower than 4895 or 4064 or Varget, there's a risk of bending the op rod.

4:00 -- I think your assessment of how the politics of the time influenced the contract and its particulars is spot on. I could show you another way of illustrating it, as well. Springfield has a certain amount of industrial capacity which obviously could have done the work, but on paper the extra work seemed to demand that even more workers (thus, war production) be tasked to take up the slack, even though it was slowing down the overall process. To compare it to occupied Europe wouldn't be that difficult, since Germany was effectively the last "great power" to maintain domestic servants once the rest of the world converted to war industries and production levels. In order to maintain the precarious balance, Albert Speer spent a huge amount of his time figuring out where to use too few workers, and where to better use what few workers he did have. The classical term for this, at any rate, is pork-barrelling. It isn't often that the short-sightedness of such policies becomes quite this obvious, though.

I see a theme on this week's videos.... this one was particularly interesting

@sylokthedefiled3047

3 жыл бұрын

I see what you did there. Nice! Mmkay!

"Why are we restricting snipers with the old bolt actions" well bolt actions have been shown to be more accurate if I'm not mistaken

@austing5951

7 жыл бұрын

Really depends on locking mechanism, it is easier however to make an accurate bolt action, but it's not specific.

@blshouse

7 жыл бұрын

Making semi-automatics as accurate as precision bolt action rifles is a holy grail still being pursued to this day.

@cardboard_shaft

7 жыл бұрын

+UnknownBigF he's not. this rifle, being semi auto and also less accurate than most bolt guns, was accurate enough for it's intended and effective range. a quality bolt gun will always be slightly more accurate than a semi auto which is paramount at extreme distances. this garand is like an early MK11 MOD 0 made by KAC (Knights Armament Company) it's meant for exceptional accuracy at 700+ meters (which .308 starts to become ineffective anyway) and also much closer engagements. there's a reason why the rifle that hold the record for most accurate grouping at a ridiculous range is the Chey Tac rifle (bolt action sometimes called the intervention) Ian looked at a few videos ago. the slamming of the bolt on a semi auto does indeed have a microscopic effect on the barrel position that means accuracy loss at great distances.

@ForgottenWeapons

7 жыл бұрын

The desired accuracy was achievable with a semi auto as well as a bolt action. In addition to mechanical accuracy, they also considered factors like weight, durability, cost, and more.

@willybee3056

7 жыл бұрын

It is amazing how things like intended porpoise modify what a standard of accuracy is. I had BAR in 30-06, I got rid of it because it was not a 1 moa. My model 70 Win is. After I glass bedded it, and put on a canjar set trigger. Oh ,, also I worked up a custom reload for it.

I used this when I was in MSF back in the 70's against tank crews and metal gears

Please get in some range time with a sniper variant of an M1, you deserve it!

You just ruined that poor gun's zero, Ian!

Great video

This was interesting to me for I own a "fake" M-1c that I bought from a man many years ago - I always thought it was a fake but it was still kind of cool and it had many "NM" marked parts on it. It was nice to see the real deal M-1c. I have been told there are many fake M-1d models floating about and they are common.

@Forgotten Weapons Dear Ian, M1C were issued to the troops and saw combat in the second half of 1944 and later. For sure in France and in Italy, during fights in bocage some snipers already had M1C - fortunately for the because this terrain required less accuracy for long range and more firepower. Yes, most of the snipers still used Springfields, but it is definitely not the truth that M1C sam no action.

@Allies_USA

6 жыл бұрын

i was trying to say that dudebut i think Ian forgot that;; XD

"E8" seems to have been a lucky designation for the US Army in WW2.

@labla8940

3 жыл бұрын

I just posted recommending watching Ian and Nicholas Moran (Chieftain's hatch) I assume you know the tank man

Ive heard garand rifles like this were used in Vietnam and Korea with similar modifications.

Reminds me a good bit of when the new bolt sniper rifles was adopted in the 1980s here, the best maker Kongsberg Arsenal was not given the contract, Vapensmia were given it and the product left much to be desired , even with updates . Kongsberg would have a much better rifle, cheaper and betyer parts on it

@havareriksen1004

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, there were definitely some politics and inside dealings when Våpensmia was given the contract for the NM149 rifle. But it seems they hired unskilled labour to fill the order. Some were done right, and some wasn't. When we were deployed we were issued NM149s that worked well and shot well, but others didn't.

Ian, thanks for the video, but disagree that the M-1 Garand C/D were failed weapons. While we can probably agree that the Garand was not an ideal platform as a scoped semi-automatic precision rifle, thanks to its top-load and eject system, the left off-set mount scope proved to be a satisfactory weapon in the hands of Army and Marine marksmen in Korea, to name one example. U.S. Marine Sergeant John Boitnott scored nine confirmed kills of enemy soldiers with his M-1 C out to distances of 1250 yards - not bad at all for a rifle whose scope was a meagre 2.5x power. The 30-06 proved to be a potent performer at long range, as Boitnott's exploits showed. Parallax issues did arise due to the scope and bore not being in the same vertical plane, but the troops worked around it and got the job done anyway. As late as the early 1990s, M-1 C/D models were still seen in some naval and USMC armories, long after the weapon and cartridge were declared obsolete.

@therealnoodledog6660

2 жыл бұрын

I disagree with your disagreeing. Ian is right, these are failed rifles. Just because you can count one specific guy that scored 9 hits with one gun you think it's a good gun? No. That mean is a good guy. How come a rifle that's expansive to produce, slow and expensive to modify and inaccurate to fire actually be a success?

@GeorgiaBoy1961

2 жыл бұрын

@@therealnoodledog6660 - Garands inaccurate to fire?? Dude, what have you been drinking or smoking? I jest, but seriously, a well-set-up Garand can easily fire inside of an MOA in the field, and there are plenty of examples to support it. In fact, you don't even need an optic on one to score hits on a torso-sized steel target at 600 yards with boring regularity. Why? The OEM iron sights on those rifles are amongst the finest ever designed for a military rifle. Don't take my word for it: There's a cat out in California right here on YT who goes by the screen-name "Mag30th," who did a video maybe 6-7 years ago of him hitting a steel plate at 1,000 yards with an iron-sighted Garand. He used a spotting scope and camera to record the target, but that's still excellent accuracy for "just" iron sights. The Garand may not have been an ideal precision platform for snipers, but you're way off base if you think that it was anything less than one of the most-successful and important military service rifles of the 20th century. It won its spurs fair-and-square and there isn't a thing you can do to change that fact. And even as a sniper-precision platform, it did better than its detractors like to claim.

@therealnoodledog6660

2 жыл бұрын

@@GeorgiaBoy1961 hey, i didn't said the Garand wasn't successful, i said that the specific Garand variant of the video WAS NOT a good sniper rifle. Please read correctly before writing a whole text wall, brother.

@GeorgiaBoy1961

2 жыл бұрын

@@therealnoodledog6660 - Oh, and learn some elementary grammar before presuming to lecture me on anything. You clear, sport?

Wow that is a cool rifle! Did the auction run into someone's American Sniper collection or something? You have made 3 videos on them :D

Would like to see some of your bloopers.

@Jabberwockybird

4 жыл бұрын

He has no bloopers. He who knew no bloopers died for our bloopers.

Excellent

I seen a few of these M1C at gun shows. They ask a lot for them. Who knows if there fake's or not. Good video.

The elevation and windage changes is an easier way to change the settings than on the Modern ACOG scope of todays M16 rifles.

Very interesting.

I've had m1a's that would out shoot 90% of purpose built snipers in 7.62 nato bolt action or not ( the only advantage of the bolt is faster velocity to extend range)

From 11:05 to about 11:40, when your showing the markings on the rear of the receiver, it looks like it has some sort of grip tape or other textured material in the pistol grip area. Looks like its right in the spot where your thumb would go. Was this possibly a user upgrade?

@danielbeck9191

Жыл бұрын

It looks to me like adhesive from tape which has been removed. A previous owner probably put tape there to assist right-hand grip for shooting. Good eyes!

9:40 and as you can see this rifle was once owned by MR.T

@greasyt9400

5 жыл бұрын

Sentinel Returns first name: Mr middle name: that period Last name T

Really good design, just a terrible series of unlucky issues cropping up. I would imagine most people loving this version once they get their hands on it.

@blshouse

7 жыл бұрын

Those "unlucky issues" are the result of bad design. It seems to be a good idea that was implemented through a terrible series of poor engineering decisions.

@vguyver2

7 жыл бұрын

Bryan Shouse Well it was engineered for a different function, it was naturally would have the problems, but those were resolved over time . Having the manufacturing split just made it worse for the sake of quality control. By the time they finally fixed everything, it was a pretty good sniper rifle and was indeed adopted and used for several years by the marines. Certainly not a great sniper rifle, but for a modified mid range rifle, it's pretty impressive in that sense.

My M1 Garand has the holes filled in on the side of the receiver. This has me thinking if mine was one that was rejected as a sniper rifle and reissued as a standard rifle. I just checked it. I was mistaken, my M1 does not have any holes drilled and filled in the receiver.

Wouldnt the iron sight adjustment nobs be in the way of the scope picture? or is it something that youd just get used to?

I just played "The World Of Guns" great game it's free on Steam and I just bought the M1 Garand and you can put a scope on it and I thought that was interesting.

I think Ian read one of the comments saying that he avoids using the word "sniper".

I watch these damn videos day after day and get pissed over all these guns I will NEVER own.

Ian, great video I enjoyed it. Why was a side mounted scope more useful and used as opposed to a scout style scope mount?

@Borderline5440

2 жыл бұрын

Probably didn't have long enough eye relief at the time.

Keep it up

Does your head ever hurt with all this gun knowledge in it. ;)

@baker90338

7 жыл бұрын

No...but the guy pointing a gun him will have his head hurt

@labla8940

3 жыл бұрын

I would imagine this is researched scripted and colberated I would be amazed if all his videos were off cuff. Canfields book has most of this. But he does do an amazing series don't get me wrong

Is that grip tape on the wrist of the stock?

I can see how the flash hider was ruining the gun's accuracy... It's blunderbuss shotgun shaped 😂😂

It's amazing that that's an only 2.5 power on a 30-06 sniper these days. People like me have a 4-24x scope on a .22. Given that .22 cost more than most peoples first car.

Norway allowed a few new rifles for hunting a couple of weeks ago, one of them is the M1 and all its variations of sniper mods also. Strangely the G 41 was allowed also, some were put on the sporting list , why the G and K 43 was put on sporting list i do not know . It would have better suited for hunting and driven hunts . Ag42 b and Svt 38 was set on the sporting list also.

@perfidiouspomegranate1599

7 жыл бұрын

Could you explain how that works to me? Does a certain list of guns get approved for a new season, or are those guns approved for ever now?

@MrPh30

7 жыл бұрын

In very short they have to approved and tested so they are not millitary patterns used today , or possible to rework into full auto as i remeber. I dont have a semi auto now, prefer bolts but i have used them a good bit earlier . Army and TA service for years . Anyway this is cut from Federal police list of approved sa rifles for hunting use. 5.Godkjente halvautomatiske rifler til jakt Følgende halvautomatiske rifler som oppfyller kravene til minimum totallengde og løpslengde etter våpenforskriften § 2 første ledd, er godkjent for erverv, eie og inneha til jakt, jf. våpenforskriften § 7 annet ledd, dersom skytevåpenet ved fabrikk er produsert til bare å kunne avfyre halvautomatisk ild: 1.Winchester M/100,2.Browning BAR (med unntak av Browning BAR M/1918),3.Remington Modell four,4.Remington modell 7400,5.Remington 742 Woodmaster,6.Ruger mini 14,7.Ruger mini 30,8.Heckler & Koch modell 2000,9.Marlin modell 45,10.Marlin modell 9 camp carabine,11.Valmet Petra,12.Valmet Hunter,13.Voere modell 2185,14.Vepr Super,15.Vepr Pioneer,16.Vepr Hunter,17.Benelli Argo,18.Sauer mod 303,19.Carl Gustav 2000 light/Carl Gustav 2000 Classic Vapen,20.Merkel SR 1,21.Remington 750, og22.Heckler & Koch modell 770.23.Garand mod M 1,24.Garand mod M 1 C,25.Garand mod M 1 D,26.Mauser mod G-41,27.Walther mod G-41.

@MrPh30

7 жыл бұрын

The list is permanent, if it is there its legal. if not it is not possible to aquire one. This is sporting list 1.Colt AR-15 H-bar/Sporter produsert etter 1986,2.SIG SG 550 SP,3.Steyr AUG sivil modell,4.Valmet M76/78A2,5.Galil AR,6.HK-94,7.Bushmaster mod. XM15,8.Olympic Arms AR-15 H-bar,9.Heckler & Koch modell SL 8,10.DPMS Panther Bull 24/DPMS Panther Bull 24 Spesial (inkl. «Southpaw» mod),11.Oberland Arms (OA) 15,12.Izhmash Saiga sport 520,13.Izhmash Saiga sport 555,14.Tiger mod 03,15.DPMS Panther mod LR-308 (inkl «Southpaw» mod),16.Armalite AR 10,17.Armalite AR 10T,18.Arsenal SAR-M1,19.Heckler & Koch MR 223,20.Heckler & Koch MR 308,21.JP Enterprise CTR-02,22.Armalite M 15,23.STAG 15,24.Smith & Wesson M&P-15,25.Benelli MR 1,26.JP Enterprises LRP-07.27.Johnson mod 1941,28.Ljungman mod AG 42,29.Tokarev mod SVT 38,30.Gewehr G-43/K43.

I heard that 7000 or so was shipped in WW2... can't remember if that was the M1C or the M1D though. Did it really not see any use in WW2?

More suited as a designated marksman rifle rather than a true sniper. I actually made one myself. But mine is accurate because it was a complete rifle when I added the mount. Yes it's possible to drill the hardened receiver IF you know what you are doing.... Lol

i saw a couple M1 snipers at a gun show once, one with a flash hider and one with a muzzle brake, both look pretty ugly to me but still pretty cool even if they aren't real

So if less than half of the rifles produced as sniper rifles were accepted what did they do with the rejects? Pull the scope and flash hider and send it out as a standard M1?

You can send that to me. I will send you my FFL. I wish it was that easy. I had a some what nice copy of this rifle. I knew it wasn't original but it was fun to shoot back in the 80's. You know one of the fírearms you could kick yourself for getting rid of. I will by a remanufactured M1C again some day just not now. I'm restoring a 03A3 now. That's taking all my extra time. It's just going to be a nice shooter I just need to find a time correct scope or a good copy. I'm tired of really bad copy's. I bought one from the "don't laugh" back of a magazine and that thing looked cool but was blown and it was new. The redical was laying on the bottom of the scope and Popeye couldn't see out of it. It's good for looks just not looking through. I have to make followers for 2 Mauser 1910 pistols for a friend and rebarrel a M1 carbine for another friend. I never thought that becoming a certified gunsmith would bring 8n this much work. Everyone wants grandad's fírearms fixed or refreashed. I don't like to monkey with the finnish of a old fírearm unless it's asked for. I just need to get to a state that is more fun friendly. Hellinois isn't the place to be. I'm hoping that Tennessee and I will fit together we'll. I don't seeing the wife liking it too much.

Looks like one had best be right-handed with that scope, IAN...

I have an M1D, do that next 😃

@BurnTheNuance

7 жыл бұрын

Ssshhh, check the description and be quiet about it ;P...7th link under related.

Is the portrait on that poster supposed to be Annie Oakley?

This is sporting list 1.Colt AR-15 H-bar/Sporter produsert etter 1986,2.SIG SG 550 SP,3.Steyr AUG sivil modell,4.Valmet M76/78A2,5.Galil AR,6.HK-94,7.Bushmaster mod. XM15,8.Olympic Arms AR-15 H-bar,9.Heckler & Koch modell SL 8,10.DPMS Panther Bull 24/DPMS Panther Bull 24 Spesial (inkl. «Southpaw» mod),11.Oberland Arms (OA) 15,12.Izhmash Saiga sport 520,13.Izhmash Saiga sport 555,14.Tiger mod 03,15.DPMS Panther mod LR-308 (inkl «Southpaw» mod),16.Armalite AR 10,17.Armalite AR 10T,18.Arsenal SAR-M1,19.Heckler & Koch MR 223,20.Heckler & Koch MR 308,21.JP Enterprise CTR-02,22.Armalite M 15,23.STAG 15,24.Smith & Wesson M&P-15,25.Benelli MR 1,26.JP Enterprises LRP-07.27.Johnson mod 1941,28.Ljungman mod AG 42,29.Tokarev mod SVT 38,30.Gewehr G-43/K43.

I have one of these I think My garand has a mount on it for the garand scope

@Azrael_indrason

5 жыл бұрын

My sereal number on it is3,562,559

Always wondered, does having the scope offset like this have any disadvantage? Since it's common to put it on top i imagined it's because it's better

@danielbeck9191

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Like the wing-mounted guns on some fighter planes, you would have one distance where the optical sights were zeroed to the target. At other distances you would need to hold to one side or the other (Kentucky windage) unless you made windage adjustments with the scope. After some careful range work you could develop a sighting card with correct settings.

my grandfather has an m1d

What was the actual effect of the loose flash hider on the barrel, and you mentioned a tight flash hider enhanced accuracy?

@rahbaralhaq

7 жыл бұрын

The gas went out in a single direction when fitted right, hence better stability. When fitted loose, the gas went out in separate directions hence messing up the stability.

@blakeerickson514

7 жыл бұрын

To add to what Rik said, Ian mentioned barrel harmonics being a factor. That is, the rattling of the flash hider under recoil/gas pressure would essentially make the barrel vibrate enough to affect the trajectory of the bullet.

@webtoedman

7 жыл бұрын

To add to what Blake said, all barrels have an unique vibration pattern when fired. When you zero the complete rifle, you are in effect setting it to accommodate that vibration and shoot to point of aim. Fitting a loose weight that can move more or less at random is going to affect the movement of the barrel differently every time you shoot.

@mysss29

7 жыл бұрын

Ahh. And simply making the barrel heavier by adding a flash hider might lessen the vibration[?]. Oh, and this also explains why target barrels are heavier in profile? I guess I sort of understood that before...but not exactly. Cool!

@blakeerickson514

7 жыл бұрын

You're absolutely right about the heavy match grade barrels but I don't think the flash hider's weight would make much of a difference. My guess would be that rather than a boost to the mechanical accuracy of the gun, the flash hider reduced the recoil. Assuming two guns have the same mechanical accuracy, the lower-recoil gun is easier to shoot well because even trained marksmen sometimes flinch a little under recoil.

A gun store near me has one of these for sale and I'm very tempted to buy it. Any way I can know if it is original and not a copy?

@sylokthedefiled3047

3 жыл бұрын

The copy is probably more accurate ;D

Sounds like they had a very simple idea and it was a good idea, then they decided to smear shit all over it.

@arielsolomon5645

7 жыл бұрын

Ah Bureaucracy! It's a thing of horrors.

Can anyone recommend any books that list the sort of MOA standards for different combat rifles? I had no idea the standard-issue M1 Garand was only required to be accurate within 4 MOA, and now I'm curious how other rifles compared.

@andrew7949

5 жыл бұрын

M16s and M4s are required to be 7 MOA

@owenberg3366

4 ай бұрын

Everybody was about 4 MOA for their rifle. Kar98Ks, Mosins, enfields- all were around 4-5 MOA as minimum accepted accuracy for a rifle. Obviously some rifles may be better, and some may be worse, but in theory every rifle that exited the factory should have been able to achieve that at a minimum. I think kar98ks were 4 MOA, Mosins 5, and enfields 4? Someone more educated can remind me of the exact numbers, but realistically they’re all close enough to not matter on the battlefield.

I guess the military is still working on the M1B

a guy where I live auctioned off a dozen of m1c's and m1d's

Beauracracy at it's finest sounds like.

Nice! Now the M1D?

Something I've been wondering for a while: would a conical flash hider like that increase recoil at all, even a little?

@morreracingteam6004

4 жыл бұрын

No it doesnt, heavier barrel actually decreases it.

Ian could you as a lefty shoulder that rifle and get a good sight picture with the optic?

@ForgottenWeapons

7 жыл бұрын

No, it can only be used right-handed.

@LieutenantTbone

7 жыл бұрын

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@merlinmundy6739

7 жыл бұрын

Tristin

@commiecrusher

5 жыл бұрын

Ed

So many things get messed up by politics.

@gregfair1749

5 жыл бұрын

Amen to that!!!!!!!!!

@azza-in_this_day_and_age

5 жыл бұрын

im still looking for a situation which was improved by the addition of politically inspired regulation

@dylanhaugen3739

5 жыл бұрын

Azza does the safe food and drug act count? Before this companies were putting heroine in baby medicine and there wasn't any regulations that prevented butchers from mixing bits of dead rats into your ground beef. Prohibition didn't work it just created a black market which made things more dangerous, same with the drug war, there's no magic solution to every problem.

@azza-in_this_day_and_age

5 жыл бұрын

@@dylanhaugen3739 i think i see what youre saying, but you know the safe food and drug act is as useful as the equality acts, they have approved additives that are illegal in other countries for known health risks, so its confusing why you would say one is doublethink while the other is actually true and useful. people would naturally stop buying the product that made their babies unhealthy, and theres more than just rats in the soup unless you hunted killed skinned and processed the animal yourself it could be anything even human tissue. which they have found. i stand on my original argument, there has been nothing i can think of which was made better by regulation based on political influence, but Ill add that which wouldnt have naturally bettered itself by forces and functions outside the regulations.

@dylanhaugen3739

5 жыл бұрын

Azza so you'd be fine with allowing companies to dump toxic chemicals in with no legal consequences? After all without regulations they have no legal obligation to not do that, and especially with large companies they'll do almost anything to save money, granted American laws and regulations are pretty shitty since citizens United allows large companies to basically bribe politicians so they're allowed to get away with a lot of crap. But compared to the stuff that goes on the developing world because their governments either don't care or are also bought by the corporations make America look good by comparison. There's also issues of quality control, worker safety, and the fact that people just don't care if they can get something cheaper. BPs profits increased after the oil spill in the gulf, mostly because Americans just don't give a damn so long as they can get stuff for cheap.

i built and own a fake M1C Griffin and Howe still make everything if you want to pay for it 400.00 i have a 3x9 red field on mine new match grade criterion barrel. shoots 2 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards. i love mine!!!

@chris_electrician

2 жыл бұрын

I have a Fulton armory m1c Garand that shoots 1-in groups at 500 yards cost $4,000 with Federal Gold match ammunition

Yah, Shifty used a standard M1 for his sniping.

WW II quick detach!

Hey uhhhh how do you spell that thingy on the scope at the end for your face

Old video, but does anyone know how a tightened flash hider could actually help accuracy? Just curious.

@danielbeck9191

Жыл бұрын

Improving barrel harmonics. Just like changing points of contact between a barrel and the channel in the stock. Many precision rifles are free-floated, but some rifles shoot better with a single point of contact between the rifle and the stock channel.

What did they do with the rifles that couldn't be reworked? Remove the mount and sell as regular rifle?

@monroetoolman

7 жыл бұрын

Mounts removed, holes filled in and issued as standard M1`s.

awsome

Is there any particular reason the military preferred the single post reticle over the crosshairs?

@gravelydon7072

7 жыл бұрын

Single post does not block out the target as much.

@mike03a3

6 жыл бұрын

Durability The crosshairs are more fragile, and an infantry rifle tends to get a lot of rough handling, even a sniper one.

Han Solo called, he wants his blaster rifle back.

Who are "Griffin & Howe inc. New York" ?

Ian love me like you love firearm encyclopedias

It looks so World at War

The M1 recently got aproved to use for hunting here in Norway. So I was wondering about solutions for scopes on these rifles. Can you get good scope rails like these on the aftermarket today? Are there any other solutions? And 4 and 3 MOA? is that really all I can expect from an M1? That is shit! Anything above 1,5 MOA is useless for hunting (In my oppinion)

@siestatime4638

7 жыл бұрын

Griffin & Howe still makes this style of mount, but they are fairly expensive and require some very careful modifications to your receiver. If the bore and chamber are in good condition, you can probably tune the rifle to shoot better than 3 MoA with a little patience. Personally, I would save my M1 as a range toy, and get a Springfield 1903 or a Mauser 98 for caribou.

@HaakonTheViking

7 жыл бұрын

I have a mauser, and soon a sporterized g33/40 in 6,5x55 too

@sandervanduren2779

7 жыл бұрын

It's a battle rifle, it's not meant to be a hunting rifle. They're designed to hit somewhere in the body of a man not the heart/lung area of a deer

@gravelydon7072

7 жыл бұрын

+Sander van Duren A lot of deer have been taken in the US with the M1 Rifle.

@Lightwolf_VR

7 жыл бұрын

HaakonTheViking Keep in mind the 3moa accuracy was a minimum standard for the rifle shooting fifties vintage 30-06 military ball. Your average M1 will shoot 1.5 with ammunition it likes. You can get far more accurate but it gets increasingly expensive and fiddly from that point forward. As for scope mounting options there are plenty of aftermarket mounts that do such things as replace the rear iron sight.