These are also converted for wildfire fighting, notably in Europe, and for similar reasons. Wheeled truck are easily destroyed by fire M113 can drive through unharmed. The US gives them to qualified agencies and firefighters should IMO make more use of them.

@notoriouselwood9253

4 жыл бұрын

Ob Fuscated, I humbly invite you watch a civilian FMC220a working wildfires near the Canadian border in Northern Washington. KZread and search “MissJimi”

@vaclavjebavy5118

4 жыл бұрын

@@kaana8421 But then again range is universal with wheeled platforms, even the B1 Centauro MGS has a comparable range, max speed and mobility more or less. M113 can go on deserts too, can't it? And there are a lot of different types of rocks. I don't know.

@Kevin-fj5oe

4 жыл бұрын

@@kaana8421 everything can go over sand and rock, but tracked vehicle do it better than wheeled vehicle. The very reason why MBT use track not wheel

@bengarcia9612

4 жыл бұрын

In the western US we use a skeeter 6x6. It has the comfort and long range driving ability to get us to fires which sometimes require driving a few states away ~500-1000 miles. Once we get there its a great unit and takes us anywhere we need to go but bear in mind its used for small parts of fires which require water. The rest of the fire (thats REALLY offroad and off the map typically) is accessed by hiking in as a handcrew.

@jwenting

4 жыл бұрын

@Gerd Wiesler depends on the terrain

I swear this entire comment section is about people who built these or rode in them

@MexicanBeann

4 жыл бұрын

Chill Glib • 19 years ago fr dude wtf 😂

@ChazCharlie1

4 жыл бұрын

I was expecting loads of space marine rhino jokes.

@sayonara880

4 жыл бұрын

Yes we have been Jbaited

@chrismanning1171

4 жыл бұрын

Ah Yeah, I can disassemble this thing all the way down to the hull and rebuild it. I use to work on tracked vehicles in the Army.

@BeardedDragonMan1997

4 жыл бұрын

christopher Manning no one cares

I rode in one of those when the electrical failed and the whole thing caught fire. Good time, really safe.

@mwnciboo

4 жыл бұрын

You like that Meme Cartoon dog in the fire... "This is fine".

@extradarlas1941

4 жыл бұрын

The m113 platform is garbage they are always catching on fire or just broke

@Rocklobster6285

4 жыл бұрын

"You have become the thing you swore to destroy"

@jerrell1169

4 жыл бұрын

Extra Darlas They aren’t even very well armored, the NVA in Vietnam often shot through them with DShk’s and even Maxims.

@trey6398

4 жыл бұрын

@@jerrell1169 you do realize that a Dshk is a heavy Machine Gun? Like the 50 cal?

Short story time. Back in 06 we decided to use one of these on a raid. Good call, being quiet and nimble. Anywho, due to the area we were in, and all the shenanigans that was going on. The army decided to weld the secondary doors shut. Which left us with the drivers hatch, gunners hatch and main hydraulic door. Whole squad smushes into the back of one of these. We hall ass down the road to raid a "high value target" or so my co thought. We get to the location. Hydraulics have shit the bed. The main door wont open. Someone has to go out the gunners hatch. Which isnt big enough to get out with your weapon and or armor. So out I go. Residential neighborhood 3am, standing on a 12 foot tall winnebago no armor or weapon. When I hear from the darkness in an iraqi accent "hey yall need some help?" Yeah sure why not. This raids already gone sideways. Takes about 20 mins to dismount everyone. Guy asks "what are yall doing here?" Oh were checking out the neighborhood, have to talk to some people. "who" I gave him the guys name. "oh thats me, yall should come in for some tea" Turns out our HVT was a really nice local farmer who was up checking his livestock. Shout out to army intel and the mechanics for hooking us up that night.

@065Tim

4 жыл бұрын

Quiet en nimble? Compared to what? You should check your driver. He probably forgot to disengage the ramp lock. The hydraulics are so weak you can just push the ramp open without using the system. With two guys pushing you can snap the cable.

@TheSpartanPaul

4 жыл бұрын

@@065Tim It is what it is. The driver was originally from an armored unit. He had been in a while. Safe to assume he knew what he was doing. As for the rest of us. No. We are infantry. That was my first time dealing with anything armor related. When raiding the harbinger of death. Brushing up on the mechanical system of the truck wasnt priority. It was wake up, we have a raid, get in truck, go. You are suppose to giggle over the hilarity of combat. But seriously thinking about it. Im glad the dude turned out to be nice. The whole ordeal was such a gigantic shit show. Had he actually been the harbinger of death, and or had an rpg or efp set up. We would have been splattered all over the front yard, or mushed in the tank.

@raytham

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheSpartanPaul Glad you all got out safe. That's the most important outcome. Yes with the M113, you need to revv up the engine to get the ramp cable taut, and then release the catch. Rehearsals are a must for Armored Infantry. I am surprised you were allowed as infantry to mount up and conduct an Armored-assisted ops without rehearsal. The combined mistakes could have been fatal.

@TheSpartanPaul

4 жыл бұрын

@@raytham That was my only experience with it. And it went so sideways we never did it again. The logic from command was that we were being watched by the locals in our ao. If they saw a plt sized convoy leave at 3 am, expect a raid. Why they picked the worlds loudest armored Winnebago, is beyond me.

@crazystuffproduction

4 жыл бұрын

that...wow...

Let's be real. NASA has these in case we need to fight space aliens.

@Kelekky

4 жыл бұрын

engineeringsquirrel yea the super laser really wont help with the Verno ground forces, since it was only made for the Ships

@alexandreberthiaume9794

4 жыл бұрын

without guns of any kind?

@Kelekky

4 жыл бұрын

Alexandre Berthiaume you forgot something called a rocket, its an expensive bullet

@alexandreberthiaume9794

4 жыл бұрын

@@Kelekky Are you talking about the big one? that goes in space , because that tank is non-weaponised

@Kelekky

4 жыл бұрын

Alexandre Berthiaume but the tip top (the faring) is if you want to place a bunch of nukes in there or bombs

So basically... fire chief just wanted a tank😂

@jamesburleson1916

4 жыл бұрын

Search "Delta 2 rocket explosion" and click on the first result. If the solid rocket motors on the Space Shuttle ever went like the boosters on that Delta 2, anyone not in a tank would most likely be cooked alive at the distances those fire fighters were.

@itzfrken

4 жыл бұрын

Well uh

@Magnus_Kieler

4 жыл бұрын

James Burleson Wouldn’t you still get cooked get inside those vehicles? Sure you wouldn’t feel the heat immediately, but it would get in there wouldn’t it?

@Magnus_Kieler

4 жыл бұрын

The First Plane Well i would just think you’d feel the heat at some point, as seen what the explosion did to the workers cars, the APC would be fried too and then heat would make it’s way trough the walls of the APC? But then again the more i think about it, i understand

@13thSystem

4 жыл бұрын

​@@Magnus_Kieler Thick dense materials takes long to change temperature, if they needed, they could probably also apply a layer of insulator material to make it more heat resistant but armor that thick, they probably don't need to

I was a scout with the mechanized infantry. I was the driver. Then became the T.C . That was all through the 80s. I miss it along with my .50 cal

@kosmxrankin1526

4 жыл бұрын

"All though the 80s" we still use them lol. Except mainly as support vehicles. Such as the Mortars use them and the Medics. As well as first Sgt has one. Our main vehicle is the Bradley those things suck ass. I like 113s more.

@tommyblackwell3760

4 жыл бұрын

@@kosmxrankin1526 Amen, brother! I started in 113s and went through the transition to M3 Brads....hate those things!

@kosmxrankin1526

4 жыл бұрын

@@tommyblackwell3760 Oh really! Was it true they tired to make them float that's always an urban legend. Also you ever get to shoot the port guns?

@tommyblackwell3760

4 жыл бұрын

@@kosmxrankin1526 By the time we got them the Army had figured out that swimming wasn't going to work, thank God I wasn't one of the guinea pigs for that one! I never saw a port weapon, those were on the earliest M2s (infantry version), our M3s (Cavalry version) had the ports welded over and stowage for more ammo and missiles inside.

@bazookaman1944

4 жыл бұрын

Kosmx Rankin we shot our Bradley port guns last week. They’re awesome

i always think of the Rhinos in 40K when i see em, hopefully when spaceforce gets space marines this can be a thing

@thedude4795

4 жыл бұрын

it must 20 years since i painted Warhammer, and you took me straight back to my buddys marine blue rhino. fuck.

@KoishiVibin

4 жыл бұрын

Problem is that these would get busted by any modern ammo. It's just better to run something like the Stryker or the M2 Bradley.

@mwnciboo

4 жыл бұрын

OOFFFFFF...That pre-launch hunter killer missile strike on your rhino by your opponent that always gets a 6 on the Dmg table. *Boom*

@problemistatist

4 жыл бұрын

*laughs in heresy*

@mahogany7712

4 жыл бұрын

Is this why the M113 is so widely used in 40k universe cuz of NASA using them

I’m actually a 91h (a 113 mechanic) in the army so I’m curious as if NASA hires 113 mechanics

@nyph933

4 жыл бұрын

www.nasa.gov/careers/search-and-apply

@Callsign_Prophet

4 жыл бұрын

We still use them? I'm calvary and have never seen one in my life. Edit: I stand corrected one almost ran me over at JOTC I'm just fcking dumb apparently

@brandnskenandore7

4 жыл бұрын

Same dude. Granted it sucks but at least NASA might pay good lol

@Welkon1

4 жыл бұрын

@Azriel You guys got some nice hats

@brandnskenandore7

4 жыл бұрын

@@Callsign_Prophet depends on which division you're in. 1CD uses the hell out of then

Who else got recommended this in 2020?

Onto a burning launchpad or surrounding wetlands? As a former M113 operator and platoon commander, I have fond memories, even done some drives through bushfires. But for rocket fuel rescue purposes, these aluminum hulls might get very hot quickly unless clad. The air intake is also not modified should it enter a low oxygen high temperature zone. There is no central CO2 fire extinguishing system visible, which are standard on most export M113, and the external activation box on the driver's side is empty (no trigger visible). There are no periscopes for the crew at the rear, something also standard in a lot of M113s. This can be dangerous should the crew need to decide to open the rear door or main hatch in an emergency but the commander is down. Hinges not modified for high temperature expansion, and no mallet or sledgehammer for emergency opening assist. No newer swim skirts installed, no trim vane. No tow cable, which is inexplicable. I hope they have done some field testing in the prescribed conditions?

@EvMstein

4 жыл бұрын

Really interesting.

@nopenopeson1097

4 жыл бұрын

Well. I'm no expert, but I would much rather drive one of these down to the fuel fire, than some open top Jeep.

@jb76489

4 жыл бұрын

Raymond Tham man, it must be hard being smarter than all of NASA

@raytham

4 жыл бұрын

@@jb76489 not smarter, just qualified and experienced with the M113

@jb76489

4 жыл бұрын

@@raytham very cool, thanks for sharing

Imagine Starting your day in a rocket, that explodes and you fine your self drive though a field of wreckage in a armored personnel carrier.

@jonathanerickson1543

4 жыл бұрын

I’m trying to figure out how the crew even gets down there.

@jonathanerickson1543

4 жыл бұрын

@rustybuttpate ^ correct. I like to think optimistically and think that if this whole system were put into place and only saved 1 soul, it would be worth the financial loss.

@AKAtheA

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanerickson1543 in case of the Shuttle, you basically prey/hope that it can get high enough to do first the separation (from the boosters and external tank), then evacuation procedure. A traditional oldschool human-rated rocket has something called an escape tower on top of the crew module/cabin. This little unappealing rocket-on-a-stick (with a capsule underneath) makes a dogfight in modern jet fighter look like a funpark ride the whole family can enjoy, as it has to be able to outrun the main rocket at any time during launch, so acceleration upwards of 10G is expected. Soyuz had several instances where this system worked perfectly. Modern traditional-style rockets with crew have this rocket integrated with the capsule and it's just as brutal on the acceleration.

@jonathanerickson1543

4 жыл бұрын

AKAtheA yup, dragon is a good example of built in launch escape, early iterations of Soyuz has an ejection seat I believe.

@AKAtheA

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanerickson1543 nope, on a Soyuz, the whole capsule goes for a ride. The Voschod had an ejection seat (the vertical landing speed was a bit too...fast...so the kosmonaut would eject and land separately) and it had this rather unwanted quirk where if you didn't assume the correct position...it would tear your head off. The Shuttle had ejection seats, but only for the commander and pilot. Those were later removed. If it was out of courtesy for the 5 other crew that didn't have them or to just save weight is anybody's guess.

*runs over a car full of an entire family* "WHERE IS THE LOCATION OF YOUR INJURY"

@dam11232

4 жыл бұрын

Awwww my nuuuuttzz. And the rest of my body

@DonVigaDeFierro

4 жыл бұрын

YOU'RE GETTING MEDICAL ATTENTION. PLEASE DO NOT RESIST.

We drivers called these 'Tracks'. They were magnificent machines that could go darn near anywhere. Thanks for the trip down Memory Lane Walter Holland A Company 4th Battalion 118 Infantry (Mechanized)

I rode in one of these while being medivaced with a busted hip through a desert, really smooth, didn't hurt at all....

In an aluminium vehicle ??? Stunning

@kolinmartz

4 жыл бұрын

What do you think is the metal used in those shiny proximity suits?

LOL *of course* every astronaut loved training to drive those. Who wouldn't ? 😅

Thanks for posting this. I never knew, but it makes sense now that I know.

Kiiiinnda seems like you just wanted some tanks

@borntoeatass2510

4 жыл бұрын

S117MasterMatt Not even a tank homie, it’s a miserable vehicle tk TC and you’re lucky if they drive for 60 miles even while maintained

@S117MasterMatt

4 жыл бұрын

ass yeah but that's just every tank, not just the tactical toaster. The leo is like that too

@Joesolo13

4 жыл бұрын

@@borntoeatass2510 he said maybe they *wanted* a tank A of people who want tanks settle for other armored vehicles

@Kelekky

4 жыл бұрын

Rocket: *explodes* Nasa: Call in the Abrams

@colbyuetake130

4 жыл бұрын

Can you blame them?

The good old M113 I hated it when it was time for a weekly treatment but loved riding in it.

NASA: we need tanks The US: why? NASA: yes

I love those 12 tons of rolling aluminum. I drove C22 in West Germany from ‘82-84 she never let me down! She was one of the fastest in the company. She would get up to 55 mph. I would love to drive it again.

@jontallman3878

4 жыл бұрын

I drove a M106 Mortar carrier For CSC 2/68 8th ID (mech) stationed at Baumholder West Germany about the same time. They were a blast to drive!!

@arthur1543

4 жыл бұрын

Jon Tallman I was with the C co 4/8th inf 8id We did many tours in baumholder

remember back in the late '80s. Growing up in a quiet village the army used to do some driver training with M113s on the road along the local canal (which for hours at a time would see no other traffic). Several times over a 2-3 year period one would go off the road and end up in the canal. Amphibious my ass, those things would sink like a rock, and require 2 armoured recovery vehicles to extract from the water (which luckily for them wasn't deep enough that the entire thing would be under water, the crew could get out through the top hatches and didn't drown every time). No, those things definitely didn't float, and also didn't drive submerged to any of the nearby boat ramps to extract themselves.

Awesome, love the old m113

I used one in the swiss army from 1994 - 2004. We had a 20mm machine gun on top and further steel plates on the side walls. Grear vehicle, miss it!

While in southern watch I ran a AF security Forces motor pool. We had 6 113s assigned, only 1 was operational, after 3 months of busting knuckles, horse trading, and sweat equity there were 4 operational when I left. Fun to drive, but very hot inside.

I was a 13F10 Fire Support Specialist in the Army and one of my duties was as a driver of the M981 FISTV, a variant of the 113. With the added targeting station and communications equipment, the vehicle rounded out to 14 tons.

Another reason they used them is because they are cheap as hell surplus lol. Good platform though, and I'd rather be in one of those in the event of an explosion than a standard truck.

M113 is old but gold.

The M113 is made out of Aluminium and as such it could combust very violently when hit. It happened before and I do not think it will not do that near a huge burning rocket

@phantom4E2

4 жыл бұрын

Facts

@onenerdarmy

4 жыл бұрын

A tin can beats walking still. Even a violently burning one, launchpads are huge yo.

@kolinmartz

4 жыл бұрын

What do you think the shiny metal parts of proximity suits are made out of?

@yuvalbeery2493

4 жыл бұрын

@@kolinmartz a proximity suit doesn't get shot by a shaped charges made out of molten copper

@H0kram

4 жыл бұрын

@@yuvalbeery2493 Neither does an M113 in Florida....

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, the use of these came out of the aftermath of Apollo 1. BTW , they are interesting to drive, I did so while in the USAF..

It takes a lot of work to make it “amphibious” lol

very good greetings from Minnesota

Wonder if they have a water buffalo and spray pump system? I want an M113..darn it..

youtube recommending again..

I need to drive one of this :-)

i know the gav is terrible as an ifv or apc, but i love the little box regardless

Those loom like the support vehicles that haul ammo for the 155 howitzers

Ok, now we need this on the moon.

NASA : I think those space aliens needs *Liberation*

i just dont think that the crew would have survived a real shuttle pad emergency situation like an explosion, but great stuff nonetheless

True story! As a private, i once crashed one of these through a telephone pole🤦🏽‍♂️

I drove one of these POS to deliver to a company that couldn't pull. I was TC of M48-A1 tank and how I was licensed to drive one was a simple matter of a manual typewriter and 4 carbon copies.

The space shuttles been retired for nearly a decade now....how old is this video?!

Fascinating - Thank you NASA!

The M113 is made of aluminum. Aluminum APCs really, really don't like being on fire. I've seen one literally melt down onto the tracks like a guttered candle. Admittedly that was an ammo propellant fire, but solid rocket boosters are made of essentially the same compound as tank shell propellant, anyway. An SRB explosion would send giant flaming chunks of highly nitrated solid fuel raining down as projectiles over a wide area. It's more likely the M113 was the fastest available vehicle in the 1960s that could carry all the astronauts at once and PROBABLY survive if it got far enough away from the stack before it blew. A bus would be no faster and would burn easier. Can't very well send 5 Jeeps. Guess we'll use 1960's technology APCs.

So, what is the exact scenario for these space fire fighters when big rocket goes boom ? I am just oblivious.

Really wanting to purchase one myself

I was a technician on one of those. One night, me and my mexican migrant worker partner got drunk and we took this tank for a ride, just to have some fun, we crashed a little bit into the rocket. Some days later, they lauched the rocket and exploded everything, including half of entire nasa staff that was close. Luckly, we were far away.... Its crazy how a random event can happen and kill you, stay safe people.

Y’all hiring? I work on those, have been for almost 10 years

@nyph933

4 жыл бұрын

www.nasa.gov/careers/search-and-apply

This is some Thunderbirds level shit right here

I hope they at least got an update by now. These M113 are here since the 60's no? Can we redo the video with more modern equipment? I'm curious.

My local township FD has trucks in the same color!

@clintcannon1902

4 жыл бұрын

Many fire departments do, I've driven a few. 😉 It's called American LaFrance yellow...obviously it's useful for the high visibility.

I was watching some war footage from the middle east one day. Seen one of these hit a IED and the entire thing flew about 20 or 30 feet into the air and landed upside down

Either my eyes are deceiving me, or does that M113 looked uncannily similar to the Rhino APC from warhammer 40,000?

@unknownunknown743

4 жыл бұрын

HG Koh OMG, GW needs to get on this shit and sue the us government or someone for copying their shit!!!??!!?!!

@k.h.g3695

4 жыл бұрын

@@unknownunknown743 LOL! It would've been really funny if there was an actual past event involving the Pentagon sueing games workshop for plagiarising their designs...but lost somehow to a tabletop game company of all people! Actually...this is not the first time a tabletop/video game company borrowed heavy inspiration from a real life vehicle. The rather infamous M35 Mako from the Mass Effect universe looks very similar to the 20th century Russian BTR-series of APCs, as well as the Swiss MOWAG Piranha. You could say that Bioware hybridised the two designs.

Just curious what about Free Fall for Hydro.Ramp?

Every other country in the world: What? USA: We need at least four firefighting tanks per mission.

GLORY FOR THE EMPIRE

*sees "M113" and assumes this is just Pixar's latest Easter egg*

You think this was just an Armored Rescuer, just wait until a rail gun appears on its back.

Do they still use these with the new rockets in use at the cape??

Proud to be a firefighter....

These are fun to drive.

I'm probably overlooking something but would these even, well, work? I feel like if there was a significant issue during the launch of the Shuttle, the crew are basically done for. There's no launch escape system, no quick abort system, the rocket is huge too which means they've still gotta go down hundreds of stairs / an elevator and to top it all off, the M113's are 0.9 miles away... If there was a fire, it's in one of two places: areas with fuel or areas with crew. Both are a devastating scenario. If the crew did somehow escape the fire (how? The Shuttle wasn't designed for that), they've still gotta get away from thousands of tons of extremely flammable chemicals whilst being hundreds of feet in the air. I suppose that an alternative emergency would be one of a health nature. Maybe one of the astronauts has fallen ill. The M113's could probably be justified here but I think it still seems a little silly. Using them in the first place implies you want to be protected from massive debris or a potentially huge explosion... neither of which the M113 will protect against. If the Shuttle exploded as or shortly after the APC's arrived, they'd be vaporised. Nothing would protect you there short of maybe a nuclear bunker. The only place the M113 might be perfect is in a small area that's close to the launch site but not too close. For example, if they're leaving the site after successfully evacuating the astronauts... but that seems like an absurdly unlikely scenario and one which already requires an almost impossible sequence of favourable events beforehand.

Had fun driving these back in the Army in the 1980s. I want one as a civilian now.

@randykroells8049

4 жыл бұрын

Ours had TOW missile launchers mounted on top in Germany with a screaming Detroit under the hood.

@reddevilparatrooper

4 жыл бұрын

@@randykroells8049 Yes the M901 ITV Improved TOW Vehicle. Every Echo company in a mechanized infantry battalion had one, HHC in Cav and Armor had a platoon of them. You must have been an 11 Hotel then.

Will it get me to work during rush hour or should I look for an M1

This video is awesome 🇺🇸👑💕💕

This video is amazing 🇺🇸👑💕💕

Was this firefighting unit retired since United Sates has no manned space flight capability anymore?

A firefighing car made out of aluminium?

That thumbnail remind me of Metal Slug

M113 looks like how would a modern Sherman hull looks like

That’s nice .

Just looks like a tank without the turret

The armor isn’t the issue for them. It’s the sealed environment. The vapor those rockets let off and their fuel is toxic as hell. It’s why they wear those suits too.

a update on these things would be cool, wondor where they ended up

@weebsdf1662

4 жыл бұрын

Not sure if this is relevant, but I went to NASA (Cape Canaveral) last year and I think they replaced them because I saw some armored truck/MRAP-like vehicles with similar markings parked in differents spots near the pad. I saw them when we took a bus tour around the facility.

@louiewatson9389

4 жыл бұрын

We still use them in the army

Fuckin love ripping around in those

at least it is a good surplus used...

That's a nice war thunder skin you have there.

Its good the those old guys can be given Another life in working for NASA.

The M113's are alright & fun to drive, but the M577's have much more room in the back...lol

Wtf kind of fires are these guys planning on fighting?

@user-lp7tx1fe6t

4 жыл бұрын

The kind of fires that would come from the explosions of thousands of tons of rocket fuel

How is an armored vehicle appropriate? With that much fire I’m pretty sure it would just become a kettle/oven. Now if it were shielded the same as the shuttle I could understand...

Hey! That's my old track!

METAL BOXES!

@jed-henrywitkowski6470

4 жыл бұрын

I like metal boxes!

@The_Lunch_Man

4 жыл бұрын

Hello lord Carron, nice to see you.

You mean big box full of people for a RPG to have some practice shots at?

And then the Army put 2 TOW missiles on top, called it the M901, and basically made Death Wall-E (Seriously this things badass)

it looks a lot like the Space marine Rhino tank

Great and interesting

simple mistake - it’s Built low as possible just like a fighting vehicle - - - for fire rescue in a friendly area ; it should be tall

M one one three. Not M one thirteen. Got a lot of miles in those...and the M577, which is the backwoods camper version.

errrmmm...from memory they are aluminium, and I seem to remember fire is the natural enemy of aluminium. This always worried me in the '70's when they would pack us grunts in the back and drive us around to practice disembarkation drills, during the bushfire season.

Equip it with water hose equipment and send it to australia, that'd be interesting.

Literally a space marine Rhino

The KIA OPTIMA of the military

So it's a Land Raider?

Kinda reminds me of Thunderbirds

I thought it was a Chicago city school bus

They should paint those blue...

“Tactical fire fighters”