We have to come to the unity of Latin, Malamkara and East Syrian in India, if possible by 2033.

How can we expect primary secular written documentation during the first century. It was mainly because the early years were years of persecution. But if we accept the Liturgy as a source, as the primary source there is clear evidence. I think Mar Thoma Saliva itself is proof. But since there is a trend of considering everything of East is heretic, Mar Thoma Sliva is also presented as manichayan cross. But I think it is wrong because there is no manichayan element in the Mar Thoma Nazranies Liturgy.

Achen, there are no evidences for either St. Thomas's visit to Kerala or the migration of West Asian christians under Knai Thoma to Kerala. The earliest major migration of christian community to Kerala is that of the 9th century West Asian Nazrani migration to Kollam ( 823 AD) under the leadership of Marwan Sapir Iso. This can be inferred from the Tharissappally chepped given by the Venad ruler Ayyian Adikal Thiruvadikal in 849 AD to these migrants. This community who came under the Jacobite bishops Mor Sabore and Mor Aphroth who started the Kollavarsham or the Nazrani Era on 17th Aug. 824 AD in commemoration of the consecration of the Tharissappally Syrian orthodox Jacobite church of Antioch at Thevally in Kollam, the first church ever built in Kerala region and recorded in history. This church is no more in existence and it is the duty of every Syrian christian of Kerala to rebuild it in Thevally where it originally stood. These wo bishops went from Kollam to Kunnamkulam and built most of the churches of the syriac tradition in the Travancore region. They brought with them the so called Persian cross which is wrongly attributed to St. Thomas. It should be rightly called as Nineveh cross as Nineveh is mentioned in those crosses in Pahlavi language and these christians came from Edessa and Nineveh (or Mosul ) region of present day Iraq. Knai Thomman migration is the same as the 9th century migration as per the latest research ! St. Thomas may have come to the North western part of the then undivided India or the present day Pakistan region. Hence St. Thomas can be rightly called as the Apostle of India ! There is no mention anywhere in any of the early century records of the visit of St. Thomas to the region which we now call as "Kerala" ! It is just a cooked up story by the vested interest historian in the later period ! What is mentioned in Acts of Thomas is the visit of St. Thomas to the kingdom of Gondophorus in the Norhwest region of the then undivided India. Church historians have been taking us all for a ride by making use of this and claiming that St. Thomas came to Kerala ! The earliest christians of Kerala were the descendants of the spice traders who married local women during their long stay in Kerala coast waiting for the favourable return monsoon or the Hippalo winds. These christians are called as mappillas ( pillas or chiildren of their ma or mothers (!) just like the nairs born out of sambantham with several Namuthiri men). Whoever claims that their ancestors were converted by St. Thomas in the first century AD from the Nambuthiri caste are actually belonging to this Mappilla community only. Similarly we have Jootha mappillas and Jonaka ( or muslim ) mappllias in Kerala born out of similar situations with the respective spice traders. Are our skin colours any different ? Then we have christians who were converted by the missionaries - both Eastern church and in the later period the Western church type. They can be called as Marthoma christians for want of a better word. So Kerala christians can be classifed into 3 types - 1. The Mappilla Christians ( the earliest ones), 2. The Nazrani Christians - the West Asian migrant people and 3. the Marthoma Christians. Since people from these 3 communities intermarry each other, we cannot clearly distinguish them from each other so easily, yet there is a subtle difference. Also people keep changing their church denomination ,eg from Orthodoxy to Pentecostalism to Catholicism etc . From Syriac churches to non-syriac churches and the list of possibility is large !

There are art ,architectral, literature evidence of Knai Thomma in Kerala History.

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Can you give references here of all the so called evidences ? Let the people read them if it is of literary in nature and evaluate other evidences and see if thy are really saying anything about the migration under Knai Thomaa or they are just grandma stories which started getting promoted after the arrival of the Portugese catholics !

അച്ചോ അങ്ങനെ ഒരു രേഖ ഉണ്ടെങ്കിൽ അത് നശിപ്പിച്ചത് ആരാണ് എന്ന് അച്ചനു അത് വ്യക്തമായി അറിയാം. അച്ചൻ വെറുതെ ഇവിടെ കിടന്നു ഉരുണ്ടു കളിക്കരുത്

Very good presentation by Moolayil Achan. Noticed two sarcastic comments. I think, they did not listen to the whole presentation. Few years ago I listened to a presentation by a Jewish person (Abraham Benser, I think) referring to a book written by him about the Jewish settlement and trade relations between Kerala and Middle East even at the time of King Solomon. In the presentation, Achan referred to circumstantial evidence, tradition and writings of early church fathers. I think, Achan missed one point. There is historical evidence about the Syrian migration of AD 345. At that time, there were Christians in Malabar. They brought the Syrian tradition, worship and liturgy and it helped the native Christians. It has also been documented about ‘taking the physical remains’ to Edessa. There is no other claim, history or circumstantial evidence regarding any other person who preached Gospel in Kerala. It is also a fact that there is no priestly succession from St. Thomas in India or anywhere else in the world. Today there are many so called ‘Scholars’ who are experts in making history. The IOC scholars are also trying to reinvent history.

സത്യം എന്താണ് ബൈബിൾ പാരമ്പര്യമാണോതാങ്കൾ ബൈബിൾ ano😂പാരമ്പര്യം ആണോ പിന്തുടരുന്നത്?,, ബൈബിൾ പഠിച്ചാൽ തോമസ്സ്‌ളീഹ ഇന്ത്യയിൽ വരാൻ സാധ്യത ഇല്ല അഥവാ vannlum🎉യഹൂധൻ അല്ലാത്തവരോടു സുവിശേഷം പറയുവാൻ ക്രിസ്തുപറഞ്ഞിട്ടില്ല ഉണ്ടോ????