Luka’s old school strategy that’s driving teams mad

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Luka Doncic has added a new layer to his game this season by using the post up, and the Mavs have found creative ways to blend his post up and pinch post game into their offense. This detailed film breakdown & scouting report analyzes the Dallas Mavericks superstar while incorporating analytics & stats -- including a recent game against Portland with analysis by our film coordinator, Mike De La Rosa.
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  • @peterlopinto
    @peterlopinto Жыл бұрын

    That's wild that Luka is leading the league in post-up points. Really interesting to see old-school tactics with new school twists

  • @Jonteponte71

    @Jonteponte71

    Жыл бұрын

    I haven't checked, but I think Marcus Smart is pretty high up on that list as well. At least for being a guard...

  • @ballsballsballs3617

    @ballsballsballs3617

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Jonteponte71 luka not even really a guard tho, people consider him a pg cuz he runs the offense but luka just kinda like lebron where they don’t necessarily have a position they r just do good them being on the court is a game plan in its self

  • @Dengen111

    @Dengen111

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ballsballsballs3617 nah, he's 100% a guard. They run a 2 guard 2 wing and 1 center/big lineup. You could call him a shooting guard if you wanted but it's mostly about who is on the floor than what he's doing.

  • @myzticalz3289

    @myzticalz3289

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ballsballsballs3617 no, he is defo a guard.

  • @c_rock3512

    @c_rock3512

    Жыл бұрын

    @@myzticalz3289 he’s a guard but he has forward size

  • @MDLR
    @MDLR Жыл бұрын

    Thanks to Ben for letting me be involved in this! Excited to hear what everyone thinks. I love how old-school tactics can be remixed for the modern game

  • @MDLR

    @MDLR

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes absolutely! I’ve been really into this season so you’ll see work in some capacity on Thinking Basketball or my own channel

  • @yackum_3331

    @yackum_3331

    Жыл бұрын

    So being in the video didn't do enough for you huh? Just had to come in the comments and be all corny like you're accepting some award to get more attention. I know I'm in the minority, but I could give a shit who was involved in this video. Just put the content out. You aren't accepting the Arthur ashe award lol

  • @ZEA88-22

    @ZEA88-22

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MDLR what’s your channel?

  • @oraborna

    @oraborna

    Жыл бұрын

    #realslavs

  • @crunch9362

    @crunch9362

    Жыл бұрын

    Old school tactics are a thing of beauty in basketball. Luka's game is the best to watch in the league. I get so tired of these talking heads saying his game is basically James Harden's game. They're idiots. That would be a good video debunking Luka is just another Harden.

  • @fateriddle14
    @fateriddle14 Жыл бұрын

    I love how this video is about Luka's playmaking dismentles his opponents, yet every teammate he passes to bricks the shot.

  • @CreedBratt0n

    @CreedBratt0n

    Жыл бұрын

    Luka would have 15 apg if teammates hit even an average amount of shots

  • @Avian07

    @Avian07

    Жыл бұрын

    Well you can't expect much from a mostly defensive minded lineup. It's Luka who runs the offense and the rest plays clean up on defense.

  • @lando9670

    @lando9670

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Avian07 Dorian didn’t shoot this bad last year, this something recent

  • @Avian07

    @Avian07

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lando9670 Last season, Dorian only got into his shooting touch after the all-star break, so did Bullock. If the same pattern occurs again this season and Dinwiddie & Wood continues to improve. I don't think we have to worry about the rest of the year.

  • @willliam1420

    @willliam1420

    Жыл бұрын

    Not every player is a microwave catch and shoot. Most guys need to touch the ball to get a feel and rhythm for shooting

  • @davidmitnick868
    @davidmitnick868 Жыл бұрын

    Luka is the most impressive player I’ve seen live on court. It’s hard to convey unless you see it in person. The physicality, ballhandling, crazy shot making, breathtaking passes, control of tempo, ability to read defenses, it’s all incredible. It feels like he’s beating your team by himself. Real superhero stuff.

  • @smey02

    @smey02

    Жыл бұрын

    if he had dont know, kevin duratn for example in his team, he would get 15 aissists consistenly

  • @lastnamefirstname1491

    @lastnamefirstname1491

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s crazy to look back at ppl questioning if he would thrive in the n a

  • @6r3ys0n

    @6r3ys0n

    Жыл бұрын

    @@smey02 Bad example. Kevin Durant is an iso heavy player and carries the ball up court much of the time. Somebody like Giannis for example, or say Evan Mobley a year or two from now. That would be something. Or an off ball two guard like Klay Thompson.

  • @smey02

    @smey02

    Жыл бұрын

    @@6r3ys0n yeah whatever...you get what I want to say. Im just saiyng that he is an incredible passer, if not the best in the league. Doing the craziest passes, and very rarely they dont find the player

  • @natashakuzmanoska9656

    @natashakuzmanoska9656

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ihaveadream3321 but in Europe this is not a problem, and you see only 1 player. So it is just natural talent that was born in Europe. Jokic developed in NBA - so the age is not a problem.

  • @LukaDaGoat77
    @LukaDaGoat77 Жыл бұрын

    Although he's only 23, he's already on pace to be one of the most incredible offensive juggernauts the league has ever seen and an all-time NBA legend.

  • @dusk6159

    @dusk6159

    Жыл бұрын

    With this ulterior level, the guy has become a perennial MVP. Another year of excellence, and Bird-Lebron style of madness on the court.

  • @ssrr9000

    @ssrr9000

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@dusk6159 I didn't get to watch young LeBron. Did he exhibit this much ability in controlling the game back then?

  • @johnwild8217

    @johnwild8217

    Жыл бұрын

    + He won all main titles/championships in Europe by the age of 18. And he was leading those teams. It can take decades if ever for another European player to achieve what Luka did by the age of 18. US sometimes has a hard time grasping the impossible goal Luka has set in Europe back then

  • @raviatm

    @raviatm

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ssrr9000 no

  • @MrSlashblade

    @MrSlashblade

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ssrr9000 yes, all those greats like bird magic and Bron have that level of control.

  • @calmfy1406
    @calmfy1406 Жыл бұрын

    Let remind yall that Luka is still 23 years old 😭😭😭 this dude has literally no ceiling and could potentially be one of the greatest of literally all time. As he could seamlessly fit into any era with his blend of old school and new school plays and skills. Thats why they call him Luka magic 🔥🔥🔥

  • @January_Cold

    @January_Cold

    Жыл бұрын

    One size fits all generational player.

  • @javigar133

    @javigar133

    Жыл бұрын

    He could take the hand check era with his Size and IQ, he wont back down

  • @dusk6159

    @dusk6159

    Жыл бұрын

    We're lucky to witness his play. Great stuff for the Mavs.

  • @MarioDiciple
    @MarioDiciple Жыл бұрын

    What gets me about Lukas post ups on mismatches is how fast he gets to work. Someone like James Harden would size up the defender and lull him to sleep and go to work. Luka just puts them in the pain train immediately. The defense doesnt have time to decide whos going to double him because luka has already backed them down and scored. Heres to hoping he stays healthy because this is mvp stuff.

  • @Zayk74u

    @Zayk74u

    Жыл бұрын

    Harden never used the post. Thats what separates the two and it's a Big separation

  • @kaizerchief17

    @kaizerchief17

    Жыл бұрын

    Looking at old footage, MJ was the same way in the post. Always efficient with his movement, moving or shooting once he leveraged position. He'd kick it out when he didn't, then reposition or cut to the basket.

  • @blackjacktrial

    @blackjacktrial

    Жыл бұрын

    This set of plays is about using pace and space strategies to allow isolation. It's actually very similar off ball to what the Ws do for Curry, it's what's happening on ball which is different - instead of Green looking for an open man, it's Luka in the post looking for the soft spot in the defence (and the primary attack being Luka instead of offball). Similar principles with wildly different looking execution.

  • @MrREAPERsz

    @MrREAPERsz

    Жыл бұрын

    Harden wasn't a post player. He stayed around the perimeter until he got a screen, then he drove to the paint. Harden never used his size to dominate. Just used his athleticism, ball skills and foul cheese.

  • @javigar133

    @javigar133

    Жыл бұрын

    So many comparison with Harden, I get why but there many differences between them. Harden does all the work on the perimeter, then either finds the killing pass, step backs shoots or trick the defender into a faul. Luka does all that but also uses the flow of the Game by getting on the post, where he can get better passes and easy reach to the basket with his Size. In 2 years he would be able to get the others better involved in the flow, in 5 his shooting should improve

  • @simonl6005
    @simonl6005 Жыл бұрын

    It's painful to watch how many wide-open 3s created by Luka being bricked.

  • @dusk6159

    @dusk6159

    Жыл бұрын

    6:38 hurt me bad. What an assist move.

  • @m3gusta17

    @m3gusta17

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dusk6159 to be fair, if you've watched the Mavs this season, Wood has been one of our better shooters. It's the Bullock and THJ bricks that are truly painful to behold.

  • @dusk6159

    @dusk6159

    Жыл бұрын

    @@m3gusta17 Indeed, and in fact I wanted to add how that shooter still deserves some slack, because it's Wood, a big man. Shame though because his movement on the catch was nice to see as well.

  • @leonardohernandez7191
    @leonardohernandez7191 Жыл бұрын

    Man I wish ben had the staff to make more videos. I could watch breakdowns like this all day

  • @chrisgotnext

    @chrisgotnext

    Жыл бұрын

    Let me fill your void for content in between then 🤝🏼

  • @michaeljansz4346

    @michaeljansz4346

    Жыл бұрын

    agree

  • @chipjnba403

    @chipjnba403

    Жыл бұрын

    We’re working on it!

  • @huntercityhunter

    @huntercityhunter

    Жыл бұрын

    @Knot Gulty this is why i'm considering subbing to the patreon

  • @Homer-OJ-Simpson

    @Homer-OJ-Simpson

    Жыл бұрын

    @Knot Gulty I’d rather 90% of the quality but weekly videos than 100% of the quality but 1/3 the videos.

  • @diegomata3624
    @diegomata3624 Жыл бұрын

    Watching some of these clips just make it clear how genius Luka is and how badly he needs better teammates.

  • @user-px9nd2uo3l

    @user-px9nd2uo3l

    Жыл бұрын

    Mavs reached WCF with only role players. Imagine Luka would get as much of what Trae Young is getting every year. Hawks get what they want, this year a superb Murray, top ten picks every season and so on. If Luka would get players like Trae is, mavs would already won a title.

  • @dusk6159

    @dusk6159

    Жыл бұрын

    Luka working with a Capela and a great defending guard would be scary.

  • @ryogouw1185

    @ryogouw1185

    Жыл бұрын

    @@user-px9nd2uo3l fvcking true. All those trae teammates were top prospects (hunter, collins, reddish*) and solid role with good reputation (capela, bogdan, gallinari*), and now they have allstar guard dejounte. While Luka big help were only wood and dinwiddie 🤣🤣

  • @wallieshere

    @wallieshere

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah he needs lebron

  • @armin38822
    @armin38822 Жыл бұрын

    He is so damn talented. I honestly feel like if his only job was to be catch and shoot player he would somehow turn into a sniper. He can shoot off the drible,he can post up,he can play the pick and roll,he can pass from every angle,he has great ball handling,he can get creative and save the posession when he gets stuck,he can make those '' luka magic '' shots...I could go on and on. There is literarly nothing on the offense end he's not good at. Is simply not asked off him to be a catch and shoot player but if that was the mission I'm sure he would do it. He's just one off the best/most talented players that ever played basketball and I'm just happy I get to see it happen in real time.

  • @kevinhowe3280
    @kevinhowe3280 Жыл бұрын

    I'm a former d1 college player. I wasnt really good in college but i was dominant in high school and I'm still pretty damn good compared to average players. The moves luka does takes so much strength. I practice all his post moves still to this day. Luka actually sparked a new interest in basketball for me. Hes doing things that I literally have never seen b4 and I never thought I'd say that again. Th balance it takes and the savvy to pull off these post moves. Hes th best player in th world

  • @javigar133

    @javigar133

    Жыл бұрын

    Good point, in terms of tecnich I would agree he is the best right now, even ahead of Jokic, then in skills is up.there. with the best. He should improve efficiency and that would be unfair. In general, not just 3s

  • @denosi

    @denosi

    Жыл бұрын

    Same here, I'm seeing the exact same thing with complete admiration and astonishment for the guy. The only difference is I was shite in high school and college. Did pick up the ball again tho for the exact same reason hehe

  • @chavoreia

    @chavoreia

    Жыл бұрын

    I was mid in Highschool but I find the same thing for me, I feel his game could be used for almost anyone, other than bigs

  • @kevinhowe3280

    @kevinhowe3280

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chavoreia just as an example of th kind of strength and savvy I'm talking about. Next time your playing against a really good defender, try the post fade over ur right shoulder. If yr right handed th defense will be literally right on your shooting hand. Getting really good defenders off balance to get that shot off constantly is th savviness I'm referring to and the strength to knock th defender off balance. These moves look easy but against really good comp they're not easy to pull off like he does. And hes only 23

  • @chavoreia

    @chavoreia

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kevinhowe3280 most definitely that’s why he’s the mvp, but I’m only 20 so I can get pretty good for every day people Ig

  • @TheTEN24
    @TheTEN24 Жыл бұрын

    I love the versatility in Lukas game and that he still uses the post game to his advantage. There is absolutely a place for it and it’s satisfying to watch the variety of moves to get a good look

  • @kimjosephbertumen1706

    @kimjosephbertumen1706

    Жыл бұрын

    he is like an unathletic lebron but a better shooter earlier in their respective careers.

  • @hittkid6312

    @hittkid6312

    Жыл бұрын

    Post-ups definitely have a lot of advantages as long as the team has someone that is big enough to get into position and also can pass. GSW uses post plays a lot they just don't have a post-threat so it's usually used to just pass the ball to either a cutter or a shooter

  • @dusk6159

    @dusk6159

    Жыл бұрын

    I love that McGee and Dinwiddie are his teammates. They're put to good use by someone great on the court like Luka.

  • @Kingkam_77

    @Kingkam_77

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kimjosephbertumen1706 he’s Larry bird with better handles

  • @t4d0W

    @t4d0W

    Жыл бұрын

    It is a natural progression if you look back at his tape from his rookie season to Year 5. He always had a tight handle in traffic even after a screen action where he's jailing a defender behind him while he attacks a big protecting the basket. In recent years he did a lot more match up hunting in the playoffs to get easy baskets having smaller guards on him. So it is a matter of blending those 2 actions but still keeping his teammates cutting and moving around so Doncic will find them when defenses bite.

  • @johanndiaz8387
    @johanndiaz8387 Жыл бұрын

    Luka is one of the basketball players of all time. The accolades will catch up but the eye test has been there from day one

  • @Homer-OJ-Simpson

    @Homer-OJ-Simpson

    Жыл бұрын

    He’s got a chance of top 10 all time given his age which means he can still improve. Giannis is already at his peak - so can Luka top Giannis? I already see Giannis as potential for top 8-12 all time if he can win 2 more titles.

  • @MerkhVision

    @MerkhVision

    Жыл бұрын

    He sure is one of the players lmao

  • @BoosterGoldEarth6

    @BoosterGoldEarth6

    Жыл бұрын

    Knockit off

  • @Willy72070
    @Willy72070 Жыл бұрын

    The mavs problem is that Luka is TOO good. With most young stars, the team has a few years to drafts high picks in hopes of a second star that can mature around them (Tatum and Brown). But with Luka, the team was in immediately good after he got drafted, so they never got a chance at drafting a second star. Hopefully they can get someone in free agency, but otherwise Idk how they expect to win a championship

  • @kakerandelin

    @kakerandelin

    Жыл бұрын

    Playing their 2nd best player more than 25min per game would be a good start

  • @mrbucky226

    @mrbucky226

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kakerandelin Christian wood?

  • @geordiejones5618

    @geordiejones5618

    Жыл бұрын

    Same thing happened to Lebron. Couldnt get enough draft/trade capital before he exploded into an all star/all NBA talent and they were stuck asking him to do too much at too young of an age. Kobe had Shaq and Jordan at least had a much more competent front office and coaching staff that knew how to maximize his talent. Haven't seen that for Luka yet. It happened to Wilt and almost happened to Kareem too. Its a tricky balance, you just cannot compete AND develop at the highest levels at the same time. Russell, Magic and Bird are probably the only examples of guys who immediately made a playoff ready team into contenders but they also had great teammates too.

  • @Willy72070

    @Willy72070

    Жыл бұрын

    @@geordiejones5618 Exactly. And it isn’t as much that their front office isn’t competent, it’s just that they have to create big trades while giving up NOTHING. They have no leeway or assets and can only pray that a superstar free agent will want to come

  • @ireplytostupidpeople4750

    @ireplytostupidpeople4750

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Willy72070 I like the team they have now. Dinwiddie been solid. Not so sure about Wood yet tho

  • @EmanCollins
    @EmanCollins Жыл бұрын

    So many of Luka's moves/decisions are absolutely breathtaking. A basketball genius!

  • @MasterResolve
    @MasterResolve Жыл бұрын

    Lbj didn't start doing this until late in his career. This dude is so advanced everywhere on offense.

  • @theSUBVERSIVE

    @theSUBVERSIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    and even in his 2nd year with the heat, when he finally started using the post, or even now, LBJ doesn't have anywhere near the same bag of moves and footwork as Luka. LBJ's bread and butter was very basic and he would stick to that. And it's not like Luka didn't have a post-game before, he was already using it in previous years, Carlisle didn't like it much but Kidd was already letting him cook in the posts last season, it's just that now Kidd adjusted what the other players should do to help Luka become even more lethal.

  • @robertoboypaos3918

    @robertoboypaos3918

    Жыл бұрын

    @@theSUBVERSIVE 👏

  • @MrREAPERsz

    @MrREAPERsz

    Жыл бұрын

    LeBron didn't need to do this. He was big and fast and that's how he won games. He's also a SF. Luka is a guard.

  • @January_Cold

    @January_Cold

    Жыл бұрын

    @@theSUBVERSIVE I'm so happy Carlisle is gone

  • @lourencoteles8414

    @lourencoteles8414

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MrREAPERsz This! Young Lebron was a freight train, he didn't need to "control" the opposing defense as much to be able to score/assist. He only slowed his game down in his second stint with the Cavs, because he understood that he would last longer (season and career) if he didn't bully ball his way to win games.

  • @MustardOverlord
    @MustardOverlord Жыл бұрын

    I think running this sort of offense makes a lot of sense for Luka. In the traditional high pick-and-roll version of these plays, Luka would call his own number by either driving all the way to the rim (which he can still do in a post-up because his footwork is so good, maybe even better because he can conserve a bit more energy and not telegraph his intentions as much) or take a step-back 3. He's shooting so well from 2 this season and mediocre enough from 3 that resorting to the step back less often is actually making him more efficient. Plus his free throw rate is ridiculous right now. Dallas found a way to emphasize Luka's scoring strengths (handle, rim touch and strength) while still giving him the traditional reads for passes in the PnR. Cool to see!

  • @t4d0W

    @t4d0W

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I think its an ideal way to give Luka different ways to 'get hot' throughout the game. Him playing with his dribble for step back 3s when things broke down wasn't for the best at times. But he'll always have that if he just needs to match up hunt a smaller defender and make the opposing bigs pick their poison. Overall in both screen and post up games, Doncic will actively draw another defender on his way to the rim which sets up a big time basket attempt or an even impressive no look assist.

  • @krisharkleroad8
    @krisharkleroad8 Жыл бұрын

    Great video analysis. Makes me appreciate Luka even more. He gets a ton of hockey assists. It's amazing how many open looks he gets for his teammates. MVP.

  • @KleinpeterHank
    @KleinpeterHank Жыл бұрын

    Lukas post scoring rarely gets talked about. Thank you Ben for shining on this old school mixed with new school style.

  • @dusk6159

    @dusk6159

    Жыл бұрын

    Ben's videos on Luka are a treat, to me right up with his ones covering Embiid and Lebron.

  • @chrissullivan6572
    @chrissullivan6572 Жыл бұрын

    Jason Kidd's growth as a coach has been nice. I like this offense a lot.

  • @dusk6159

    @dusk6159

    Жыл бұрын

    They're a perfect match too, JKidd and Luka are two genius basketball minds.

  • @chrissullivan6572

    @chrissullivan6572

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dusk6159 Kidd being a big PG with crazy vision, it makes sense he'd put Luka in similar positions he was successful in

  • @dusk6159

    @dusk6159

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chrissullivan6572 Big and all-around star PGs too

  • @BoosterGoldEarth6

    @BoosterGoldEarth6

    Жыл бұрын

    Luka is not a genius

  • @chrissullivan6572

    @chrissullivan6572

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BoosterGoldEarth6 I don't think anyone would agree with you. His game has flaws but how is he not a genius?

  • @JayZone23
    @JayZone23 Жыл бұрын

    Props to coach Kidd for implementing the post up offense back. This will for sure be more valuable in the playoffs. Some guys with physical advantage tends to settle for jumpshots so it is great that the Mavs are implementing old school style of basketball.

  • @Jabbersac
    @Jabbersac Жыл бұрын

    4:11 To be fair, while Bol Bol is about 7 inches taller than Luka he's also about 15 or 20 pounds lighter, with a higher center of gravity. With that in mind, it's not actually too surprising that Bol gets thrown around by Luka's shoving, and in fact it's pretty good that he still keeps his balance well enough to get a respectable contest in - only an elite scorer like Luka can feather in an arcing shot like that over Bol Bol's crazy long arms.

  • @jayem8981

    @jayem8981

    Жыл бұрын

    I think the more astounding thing though is that a PG who was giving up half a foot to a defender, decided to take him in the post. When was the last time you’ve seen a 6’7” guy post up a 7’2” guy, irrespective of weight? As you said, that speaks to Doncic’s skill that he was even able to get his shot off over Bol’s clearly superior reach, but that is generally not something someone so “out-heighted” would even attempt.

  • @viktorkopinc4055

    @viktorkopinc4055

    Жыл бұрын

    It's surprising Luka reads that right away and goes to work on him, might have felt that Bol Bol is easily moved in a instance under the basket before that play. Either way Luka plays off of knowledge and feeling so I can't tell if he already knew how he going to finish before he strted backing him down. Probably not much options left than a hakeem/dirk turn fadeaway.

  • @TheMarkoSeke

    @TheMarkoSeke

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jayem8981 it actually speaks to his thick booty

  • @dennisbautista6795

    @dennisbautista6795

    Жыл бұрын

    Great thing about Luka is he sees the weaknesses of whoever is guarding him and takes advantage of that

  • @bernardfinucane2061

    @bernardfinucane2061

    Жыл бұрын

    Luka plays basketball like he's playing handball, which is pretty rough and tumble.

  • @thefilipinoknight6617
    @thefilipinoknight6617 Жыл бұрын

    I love this breakdown, and love the evolution of Luka’s game. Every year they say he’s hit a ceiling because he’s not an explosive athlete, but he just blasts through those haters like they were Patrick Beverly.

  • @AleksandarGospic
    @AleksandarGospic Жыл бұрын

    Excellent analysis! Arsenal Luka has at his disposal is insane, I'd say he is the most complete player in the world. There are other great scorers out there but his vision of the game and assists are mind blowing, no one else has such package

  • @szethcaligo3735

    @szethcaligo3735

    Жыл бұрын

    Luka can make a case for being the most complete offensive player ever. If he was an all-star level player on defense he's the best player in the league, no discussion.

  • @javigar133

    @javigar133

    Жыл бұрын

    If he could only get into that 50-40-90 efficiency level and improve his role on D, we Will hear comparison with Larry Legend

  • @bdictjames
    @bdictjames Жыл бұрын

    Glad to see Luka employ more of an all-around game.

  • @studentinfomovie
    @studentinfomovie Жыл бұрын

    This new DAL scheme reminds me a bit of what DEN/Jokic are playing. One things I noticed here is these were all "low injury risk" and quite "low energy demand" plays - for Luka and for his teammates. Strong fouls often deluded big-men's careers (ie DHoward), hard hits (ie DRose) or landing on defenders feet on contested jumpers (ie Kawhi/Zaza situation) are detremential for smaller guys. This is one thing I really like about Jokic - close to the ground, low falls, less fouls in traffic with guys running you down like NFL. So it makes even more sense - for DAL and for Luka/Jokic... You can see this being in LBJ's mind when adopting his game over the years.

  • @Ballhawk99
    @Ballhawk99 Жыл бұрын

    All you hear people saying is that the game is changing and shooting is superior, same w football in that passing it 50 times a game is best to score….weird thing is is that when it comes to playoff time for both sports, teams usually revert back to old school play style (post ups in basketball, and running the ball in football) wonder why these aren’t emphasized for both sports during the regular season

  • @ryanr20091

    @ryanr20091

    Жыл бұрын

    golden state didnt win the championships because they were great at post ups so this isn't some renaissance. even the way luka post up is more skillful so it gives the illusion that others can do what he does . his approach is different from the old school style because of his uniquie skillset and being a big guard thats like 6'7 230 240 hes a huge guard and exceptional passing hes not one dimensional from the post like alot old school players were . he can do alot more

  • @MerkhVision

    @MerkhVision

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s because when the season is on the line u want the odds in your favor, so you’re more likely to favor traditional safe tried and true methods rather than newer or riskier untested methods.

  • @Dekartz

    @Dekartz

    Жыл бұрын

    Wear and tear. In football especially thr ground attack is physically demanding so you're not gonna use it in thr regular season purely because you've gotta keep your guys healthy for the whole season. In the playoffs you have the whole off-season ahead for recovery.

  • @dudeabides69
    @dudeabides69 Жыл бұрын

    We were just talking about the post up at work. Great video. Luka and Joker are changing basketball the way Steph did 10 years ago

  • @deathsmage42
    @deathsmage42 Жыл бұрын

    This is one of my favorite videos just because I'm such a sucker for oldhead basketball. I love when you highlight post play and midrange games still being vital and important tactics in the Layup and 3 era.

  • @cd6xc
    @cd6xc Жыл бұрын

    He reminds me a lot of both LeBron when he finally got the post game AND of Mark Jackson just sitting his ass until a good pass came, but Jackson had those distinctive advantages of the illegal defence and the absence of the 6-second rule for a long part of his career, which is even more scary considering Luka has such pass creativity and a quick trigger doing so.

  • @alejandrosierra3743
    @alejandrosierra3743 Жыл бұрын

    It is scary how good this young kid already is. I don't know what is going to happen if he keeps imporving his game.

  • @BRAOSGEELR

    @BRAOSGEELR

    Жыл бұрын

    Best basketball player all time. Thats whats going to happen

  • @TheNamesDitto

    @TheNamesDitto

    Жыл бұрын

    There's a chance he might be the next GOAT. Not saying its final but he has the talent to be.

  • @Mzee1084

    @Mzee1084

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@TheNamesDitto Got a lot of work to do on his defense if he is to be a contender.

  • @BRAOSGEELR

    @BRAOSGEELR

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheNamesDitto i don't know man. He will not be consistent enough. His body will not last as long as Lebrons, and he will not win as many title as Jordan. This is subjectiv anyway. For me he is the GOAT already. Why? Because if somebody told me you will wake up tomorrow and you can chose to be any player from basketball history, you will play the game same way as he did... I would chose to be Doncic. Already, now. He doesn't have to do anything until the end of his basketball career Watching him is poetry in motion. And it is fun first of all, and he himself looks to have a lot of fun playing basketball and he is a killa at the same time. What more can a man ask for...

  • @Niccolo_Piccioli

    @Niccolo_Piccioli

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Mzee1084 He's inproving on defense also, he's second in steals per game this season

  • @Bulls1999
    @Bulls1999 Жыл бұрын

    The way Luka is playing; he doesn’t need another superstar, more effective 3 pt shooters and an active agile big that can guard multiple positions. Dallas needs to make the trade for Buddy Hield in miles Turner from the Pacers! And in that scenario, I can see the Mavs getting better and becoming more of a legitimate championship contender; these are prime Luka years that shouldn’t be squandered!

  • @Alex2099-
    @Alex2099- Жыл бұрын

    I realy love watching stuff like this, plays being broken down. Also surprised me that he is leading the league in post ups.

  • @MyOaAesis
    @MyOaAesis Жыл бұрын

    Best NBA content on this site.

  • @doktarr

    @doktarr

    Жыл бұрын

    true fact

  • @pizzafria52
    @pizzafria52 Жыл бұрын

    In his prime Kidd was the best PG playing post up game in the league

  • @vc5917

    @vc5917

    Жыл бұрын

    Hint hint

  • @robertoboypaos3918

    @robertoboypaos3918

    Жыл бұрын

    Post up game no, but the best rebounder at pg, yes

  • @pizzafria52

    @pizzafria52

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertoboypaos3918 he was the best PG in post up game, believe me in this, they didnt run that offense too much because Kidd used to be defended for the SG of the other team. But when they can run it was Easy points for His team

  • @hittkid6312

    @hittkid6312

    Жыл бұрын

    I forgot about that good catch. Luka holding up the tradition of big bodied point guards, Magic to Kidd now to Luka.

  • @Spider-Nalgas
    @Spider-Nalgas Жыл бұрын

    Seeing Luka play the post as a big PG reminds me a lot like Magic Johnson

  • @armanifrazier6130
    @armanifrazier6130 Жыл бұрын

    Love this channel! Always detailed and well thought out.

  • @Aggie1295
    @Aggie1295 Жыл бұрын

    Great video and analysis. Probably one of the most detailed breakdowns of basketball I've seen in a long time. It is amazing watching Luka play, and what impresses me is that some of his most amazing and biggest plays are his assists. I remember last season watching the Mavs play the Nets I'm Brooklyn, and Luka made a pass to a teammate for a game winning three. He takes the winning shot a lot of times, but doesn't have to. What worries me about the Mavs this year is seeing them give up big leads like they did against the Suns or seeing them struggle and lose to definitely inferior teams. Not sure if it's just a defense issue or a problem when Luka isn't on the court or what. I think if the Mavs could make a trade to get another star or high end role player. The other funny thing that jumps out, is that Luka does so much that it's tough to realize that he's a point guard.

  • @pbplss2248
    @pbplss2248 Жыл бұрын

    This is HANDS DOWN the best KZread channel about breaking down plays AND bball in general. Outstanding work man, thanks and keep it up !

  • @JJames666male
    @JJames666male Жыл бұрын

    Post moves and footwork are the coolest thing in basketball imo.

  • @naushilmehta652
    @naushilmehta652 Жыл бұрын

    Another great video as usual Ben! I can’t find the link but I remember reading last year that an unnamed nba GM said SGA was pretty much ja morant without the elite supporting cast. Would love to see some sort of comparative video on those two from a metrics and play styles perspective. Thanks!

  • @americangraffiti3971
    @americangraffiti3971 Жыл бұрын

    Doncic is revoluting the league year by year. His stepbacks are mostly indefensibles, great foot work, great in pass, great in pick and roll situations, also post ups, isolated threes, changing speeding... is crazy.

  • @Homer-OJ-Simpson

    @Homer-OJ-Simpson

    Жыл бұрын

    This is how the nba changes over time. In large part it’s tule changes or how rules are enforced but players and coaches learn from before then make modifications which then become mainstream and then someone else will learn from that and make changes. Coaching and game play have certainly evolved the most and it started with the realization that the 3pt shot opens up the floor. Once that happened, the game changed and then we started seeing even more complex plays with lots more off ball movement than ever before.

  • @bitw434
    @bitw434 Жыл бұрын

    Posting luka against smaller guards on 2K is unstoppable

  • @AveChristusRex789
    @AveChristusRex789 Жыл бұрын

    A lot of people compare Luka to Harden but I think this is the major difference between the two (plus Luka’s tendency to use the PnR compared to the ISO) and that makes Luka a much more different player than what most people may think

  • @antonquirgst2812

    @antonquirgst2812

    Жыл бұрын

    I think they compare him less in terms of playstyle and more in terms of what their respective role is/was on their resepctive teams. LIn Houston Harden was the system- Harden was the offense and the same can be said about Luka and the Mavs - without him... the Mavs hardly make the playoffs- as seen in Houston where they lost!

  • @blicleak1101

    @blicleak1101

    Жыл бұрын

    Luka has a HUGE heart which is the main difference

  • @theSUBVERSIVE

    @theSUBVERSIVE

    Жыл бұрын

    @@blicleak1101 and he doesn't disappear in big moments, quite the opposite, plus Harden's play is far more limited than Luka's, not even close.

  • @dgerch

    @dgerch

    Жыл бұрын

    I think he's a cross between Bron and Harden. He has Bron's size, strength and passing and Harden's step back, under the basket running back moves to the rim.

  • @AveChristusRex789

    @AveChristusRex789

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dgerch I would also add in Bird even if some people think that’s an outdated comparison now. Just like Bird, Luka isn’t really conventionally athletic when it comes to vert and speed but they both know their angles and post up frequently. Luka a mix of Harden, Bird and Bron in my view for sure

  • @shenielgarcia
    @shenielgarcia Жыл бұрын

    I love you Ben!!! Best basketball content on KZread 🔥🔥. Legit makes my day better whenever you post. Shoutout to you bro, keep grinding 💪🏽💪🏽

  • @victorugri
    @victorugri Жыл бұрын

    That's an awesome analysis and very well explained! Thx for that level of content

  • @Only1Mal
    @Only1Mal Жыл бұрын

    I was just watching Lukas highlights from yesterday perfect timing on this upload

  • @doktarr

    @doktarr

    Жыл бұрын

    I felt bad for Bones when he got switched onto Luka. Luka looked like a dad backing down his kid in the driveway.

  • @Only1Mal

    @Only1Mal

    Жыл бұрын

    @@doktarr I swear to god i instantly started shaking my head😂😂😂

  • @cameronbolden5064
    @cameronbolden5064 Жыл бұрын

    This was one of my favorite parts of Kobe’s game

  • @richmahogany1710

    @richmahogany1710

    Жыл бұрын

    that hop step into the lane and quick floater

  • @sonpois
    @sonpois Жыл бұрын

    Love these slowmotion breakdowns. Subd

  • @colinsoder
    @colinsoder Жыл бұрын

    Just awesome video examples. Love it

  • @emmanuelc316
    @emmanuelc316 Жыл бұрын

    Could u do a vid on Shai he's killing it at the rim, has added a reliable mid range game and has improved he's defense tremendously! Would love a breakdown on him! Ur vids r always awesome

  • @23ofSeptember
    @23ofSeptember Жыл бұрын

    Luka has incredible basketball IQ, more than Lebron by far. Amazing to watch how he can figure out a way to score or make an incredible dish in almost any possession. The way he scored on Bol, just by recognizing how much space a Big was going to give him. Incredible.

  • @noelazpeitiagarrido6340
    @noelazpeitiagarrido6340 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video!!! will you do a top 10 best players of the 2022 season I love those videos!! Keep up the great work

  • @colemanbranum5593
    @colemanbranum5593 Жыл бұрын

    I watch Mavs basketball more often than not, see this stuff all the time, and there was still so much in this video I have never noticed watching live. Awesome breakdown. It’s crazy how much off ball movement there is on plays where Luka does all the dribbling, and even those that are pure iso with no pnr. I would love to see a counter to this video highlighting what defenses are doing to cause so many of the late game meltdown I’ve seen from Dallas. I feel like there is some combination of a big body on doncic and staying home to shooters that has really caused problems late in games, especially when Luka is already gassed.

  • @RICECAKE1
    @RICECAKE1 Жыл бұрын

    The post game I think will make a small comeback due to the success players like Luka and other guards have had with it and it’s just another option the defense has to worry about

  • @antonquirgst2812

    @antonquirgst2812

    Жыл бұрын

    I sor of agree- the way teams play is following trends and a lot has to do with the success golden State had in the past- which ofc had a lot to do with Currys ability to shoot the ball...

  • @NerdChannelBrasil

    @NerdChannelBrasil

    Жыл бұрын

    This only works because Luka is a really good post-up player, is big and has supreme footwork.

  • @t4d0W

    @t4d0W

    Жыл бұрын

    just becuase it works for one outlier athlete doesn't mean every other team with that talent can pull it off. Even some of the best big wing scorers aren't looking to match up hunt as much as Luka does. And rarely do they have the handles nor the passing vision to put defenders to sleep while he finds his open man. Zion could borrow from this but his game is also vastly different and he lacks the craft to make some of those passes.

  • @chriswillis7154
    @chriswillis7154 Жыл бұрын

    As a Raptor fan, Luka single handedly beat us. Kobe 80 pt level dismantling. It was incredible. I love how he doesn't oversell his no looks or feints.

  • @swigthealo
    @swigthealo Жыл бұрын

    J Kid bringing back the 90s post up plays with the modern playbook #genius

  • @makeormiss_
    @makeormiss_ Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Ben for such another amazing breakdown!!! You’re an inspiration

  • @yersin293
    @yersin293 Жыл бұрын

    Imagine Luka and Jokic in one team

  • @KreysHealth

    @KreysHealth

    Жыл бұрын

    Worse defensive rating in nba

  • @yersin293

    @yersin293

    Жыл бұрын

    @@KreysHealth not worse than your grammar

  • @nmzhoops
    @nmzhoops Жыл бұрын

    Luka makes it extremely difficult to keep small guards on the floor. The helio archetype w/ a post game is very tough to deal with. This video nails it but defenses are in a conundrum because most players who play with their back to the basket aren’t this gifted as passers with this much variation to how they can deliver a pass.

  • @alexandershabazzi8890
    @alexandershabazzi8890 Жыл бұрын

    A reminder that Basketball will always continue to evolve, no matter the era, the changes. The craft behind this sport is so special. Luka is truly gifted, but his IQ is unprecedented about the game itself. This channel continues to exemplify why Basketball is truly a one-of-a-kind craft. We are seeing the post move fundamentals come back and it’s beautiful, and what’s special.. mainly by guards and Wing players!

  • @JustGoodGames.
    @JustGoodGames. Жыл бұрын

    Good stuff as always. Would love to see something on the Cavs win-streak vs. losing streak. Bench has been down, losing Wade for a bit hurts, but someone asked me what I thought about them and I was kind of like... I have no clue!

  • @nanox4
    @nanox4 Жыл бұрын

    Imagine Luka next to great players

  • @randomperson2540
    @randomperson2540 Жыл бұрын

    Luka is great

  • @tom22333
    @tom22333 Жыл бұрын

    Omg how did I just find your channel. Amazing!!!!

  • @vinceeeeeeent
    @vinceeeeeeent Жыл бұрын

    Nice vid man. Sparked my interest in Luka. He’s must see now

  • @filipe10messiyou
    @filipe10messiyou Жыл бұрын

    The probability of a possession turning into points when Luka has the ball is the best you can get with any all time player, including MJ. His ability to manipulate defenses plus his shot creation makes him already, at 23 the best offensive player the league has ever seen.

  • @jvostudio
    @jvostudio Жыл бұрын

    Luka putting modern big man to shame

  • @mightymadman
    @mightymadman Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Loved it

  • @louismartineau1596
    @louismartineau1596 Жыл бұрын

    Incredible analysis, love it

  • @constablekennedy7705
    @constablekennedy7705 Жыл бұрын

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  • @gamemeister27
    @gamemeister27 Жыл бұрын

    I don't think it's just teams prioritizing other offense that has lead to the decline in post ups, but also players growing up without them as heavily emphasized. I've seen a lot of fan bases lament the inability of their guards to feed the post, further compounding the decline. When you're a big and you feel like getting good post position usually won't get rewarded anyways, you stop fighting for it as much too.

  • @gralenbrown660
    @gralenbrown660 Жыл бұрын

    Great Vid!!! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

  • @michaeldavidnvitales
    @michaeldavidnvitales Жыл бұрын

    Awesome analysis 👍🏻 subscribed ✅

  • @aniruddhiyer845
    @aniruddhiyer845 Жыл бұрын

    I believe Ben Simmons could do something similar too With this gifts he can't shot if he life depends on it But layup , passes , post moves and dunks are for his skill set

  • @metalsadman

    @metalsadman

    Жыл бұрын

    except he won't lol

  • @blicleak1101

    @blicleak1101

    Жыл бұрын

    Again it is not always about size and talent, Luka is different because of his heart and will. That’s something Ben will never have

  • @cnoteda1and0nly
    @cnoteda1and0nly Жыл бұрын

    Looks like he’s carrying the ball on a good amount of these post ups.

  • @CrustyRusty366

    @CrustyRusty366

    Жыл бұрын

    As long as the hand is above the ball, it's not a carry. Jordan did this a lot. Let the ball go higher in the air but keep the hand on top.

  • @cnoteda1and0nly

    @cnoteda1and0nly

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CrustyRusty366 He’s literally cupping the ball in some of these clips though.

  • @ultimateultimate4115

    @ultimateultimate4115

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cnoteda1and0nly oh so he does something that literally everyone else in the league does.....ok nice try at hating though i guess

  • @cnoteda1and0nly

    @cnoteda1and0nly

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ultimateultimate4115 Who tf cares if everybody does it. Doesn’t make it right. It for sure helps him survey the court if he doesn’t have to honor the rules.

  • @ultimateultimate4115

    @ultimateultimate4115

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cnoteda1and0nly they barely ever call "carrying "for anybody..... it does matter, they also don't call 3 seconds in the lane hardly ever either....just because it's a "rule" doesn't mean shit today. Using your logic is Lebron not that good either because he got away with essentially traveling his whole career?

  • @itsexplicit3561
    @itsexplicit3561 Жыл бұрын

    Couldn’t wait for these videos ! Could you do SGA next?

  • @RwandaBob
    @RwandaBob Жыл бұрын

    when i watch luka i feel like i’m watching larry bird again great passing, great shooting, slow pace, classic moves. i love watching lukas game i think it’s extremely under appreciated.

  • @axlegallardo
    @axlegallardo Жыл бұрын

    He's better than Bird. Change my mind.

  • @jancon13xw3

    @jancon13xw3

    Жыл бұрын

    Easy

  • @Oppenheimer1967

    @Oppenheimer1967

    Жыл бұрын

    🌝Larry Bird stats from 1986-1989(5 seasons): 27.9 ppg, 9.7 rebounds, 6.8 assists, 1.8 steals , 0.9 blocks on 51.7% FG, 41.4% 3pt and 90.1% FT. People lie; numbers don’t lol

  • @axlegallardo

    @axlegallardo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Oppenheimer1967 Those numbers are insane! But skill wise, who you taking?

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    @wallacesouza2678 Жыл бұрын

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    @johannesziegler5590

    Жыл бұрын

    You are right, so many people don't know this

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    @villadschristensen1322

    Жыл бұрын

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    Жыл бұрын

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    @giadacolombo1249

    Жыл бұрын

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    @claudiamoro2728

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @happyhapley
    @happyhapley Жыл бұрын

    Excellent analysis. Luka is a joy to watch because he makes it look so easy and effortless to score and create shots for his teammates. That style of play seems durable.

  • @alansmith888
    @alansmith888 Жыл бұрын

    Doncic is a power forward playing as a PG.

  • @houssamk777
    @houssamk777 Жыл бұрын

    Great breakdown like always

  • @imdbtruth
    @imdbtruth Жыл бұрын

    Luka is the best player in the world, sorry Giannis.

  • @EnZo7992
    @EnZo7992 Жыл бұрын

    You know Luka just loves getting someone smaller switched onto him and then just bulling tf out of them to the rim. He truly is a force unmatched.

  • @kalsal89
    @kalsal89 Жыл бұрын

    Love this channel!!

  • @chrisobucks
    @chrisobucks Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video!

  • @jesseashton1269
    @jesseashton1269 Жыл бұрын

    This is kinda reminiscent of LeBron adding a post-game during his miami days to give him another way to attack defenses

  • @vc5917

    @vc5917

    Жыл бұрын

    Lebron was no where close to this

  • @SaladFingers_
    @SaladFingers_ Жыл бұрын

    It's not "old school", it's basketball. People in the NBA have forgotten how the damn game is played. That's why some European talents are making everyone a fool.

  • @dboii9741
    @dboii9741 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve been waiting for someone to drop a vid like this I’ve been saying this is crazy to see in 2022 especially from a guard/forward

  • @user-ko4ki8nn9n
    @user-ko4ki8nn9n Жыл бұрын

    Great Video!!!!

  • @FlyWithMe_666
    @FlyWithMe_666 Жыл бұрын

    Steph Curry’s dominant post game changed the NBA forever - long before Luka.

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    @edongmascada2022

    Жыл бұрын

    🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

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    @ericzamudio2905

    Жыл бұрын

    Hahahahahahha

  • @thankyouverymochi
    @thankyouverymochi Жыл бұрын

    damn, Luka was killing with his post moves. glad to see this analysis, and that call out on second presenter are also great to give a second opinion & insight. I recently played basketball again, being a post scorer, it's fun when you can spot teammate and score in the post, especially if you hit the Dirk's one legged fadeaway

  • @connorphillips8116
    @connorphillips8116 Жыл бұрын

    These post ups and the ability to finish and or create from down there I feel like mirror a lot of Miami's Lebron years. James I remember loved working down there to similar effect. Assessing the whole floor, using his passing as gravity but having the trade off of taking it to the rack himself. I think a huge part of this working is Mike's point of him being able to assess the whole Defense as he establishes position on the low block. Thats where the interesting stuff to me is, in Luka processing secondary actions, or how his choices can lead to others making easy decisions. Obviously he is a tremendous player, with basically every offensive tool in the bag but the isolation I find at times limiting. These clips though show amazing nuance in not only creating looks, finishing himself efficiently but also creating basic reads for players he passes too. Special stuff.

  • @willsheekey7747
    @willsheekey7747 Жыл бұрын

    absolutely excellent video. only thing to note is that the step through is really a travel @ 6:41 as Luka's steps back with his left and then his right, meaning he could have stepped through with his right. However, he steps through with his left instead.. close, but a travel nonetheless.

  • @Lalambz
    @Lalambz Жыл бұрын

    reminds me of hwo 2k23 runs triangle offense when u pass the ball to the post, with a great post up player. Luving the art is still alive!

  • @willhooke
    @willhooke Жыл бұрын

    This might be your best offensive video Ben The perfect compliment to the offball videos with Curry and the Warriors It's the whole enchilada

  • @danraul9759
    @danraul9759 Жыл бұрын

    Doncic is that unorthodox hybrid player like Magic Johnson was in his era. And now Doncic is playing great defense so early in the development of his career at the age of 23 being 1st in steals, 1st in overall PER, and 22nd in rebounds

  • @78tag
    @78tag Жыл бұрын

    Thank you, this was very entertaining - I have pretty much given up on jungle ball but, it would appear, players like this are bringing something back to the game .

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