Luggage theft at Sea-Tac Airport reaches all-time high, investigation finds

Records show that cases of baggage theft have increased over the years at Sea-Tac, especially after the post-pandemic crush of passengers.

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  • @shari9721
    @shari97216 ай бұрын

    There is no reason why anyone should be able to walk in off the street and have access to the baggage return .

  • @weareorigin
    @weareorigin7 ай бұрын

    Why are the guilty ones protected with their faces blurred?

  • @Piano_Castle

    @Piano_Castle

    7 ай бұрын

    Liberal policy. That's why criminals' faces are blurred.

  • @jamesinhamptonroads

    @jamesinhamptonroads

    6 ай бұрын

    Seattle

  • @onion_____

    @onion_____

    6 ай бұрын

    Just in case they're not guilty and the news company doesn't want to get sued

  • @edmontoncouple1562

    @edmontoncouple1562

    10 күн бұрын

    proves how rotten the system is, protect the criminals not victims is their motto.

  • @watsonspuzzle
    @watsonspuzzle7 ай бұрын

    Just fence the area off and set up a machine that scans the baggage claim ticket. If your ticket is valid, you can go in.

  • @chancepaladin

    @chancepaladin

    7 ай бұрын

    you'll still be wrestling your bag away from people claiming its theirs. happened to me multiple times. people go in with a shitty bag and walk out with someone else's daily.

  • @MrArod356

    @MrArod356

    2 ай бұрын

    There used to be baggage checkers back in the day but airlines stopped in cost-cutting moves

  • @Golfnut_2099

    @Golfnut_2099

    22 күн бұрын

    That is how it used to be when I was younger. You had to show a ticket to enter baggage claim and then show your ticket on the way out.

  • @bpo4736

    @bpo4736

    11 күн бұрын

    @@MrArod356 they have decided it’s a “you problem” 🥲

  • @angryranger4552
    @angryranger45527 ай бұрын

    A crime is a crime, no matter if you are homeless or insane!

  • @deroux
    @deroux7 ай бұрын

    Why isn't baggage claim behind tsa security?

  • @liligman

    @liligman

    6 ай бұрын

    Not only would there be nowhere to fit it, it would be logistically impossibl without shutting down the airport and redesigning the entire secured side. Not only that, if you kept the current build of the airport, every car coming to the arrivals would have to be screened. It’s logistically not feasible

  • @Lelffy
    @Lelffy7 ай бұрын

    Back in the day you had to show someone your baggage ticket and they made sure it matched your bag and then you could exit the baggage area.

  • @blakkmor5947

    @blakkmor5947

    7 ай бұрын

    You are ABSOLUTELY correct!! The authorities there have gotten so lackadaisical it's sad.

  • @bubbalo3388

    @bubbalo3388

    6 ай бұрын

    Yep. Probably because airports are too cheap to pay someone to do that job.

  • @trueessence4317

    @trueessence4317

    6 ай бұрын

    Too risky for a legitimate U.S. citizen to do. Unless they are armed, that ticket checker is fair game to take by illegals too

  • @bubbalo3388

    @bubbalo3388

    6 ай бұрын

    @@trueessence4317 in other words, another job an American won't do?

  • @keophong9598
    @keophong95987 ай бұрын

    “Mentally ill” ??? They knew what they were doing

  • @kingbladerZed
    @kingbladerZed7 ай бұрын

    How low will thieves go. The checked luggage need to be at a more secure place for proper pickup.

  • @beniamintrif358
    @beniamintrif3587 ай бұрын

    Seattle airport is a joke no one should be in baggage claim unless they have some sort of ticket or proof showing that they have authorization to be there.

  • @user-zp7jp1vk2i

    @user-zp7jp1vk2i

    7 ай бұрын

    YVR your tag is checked against your ticket when you p/u your bag. I don't see a single security or airport person anywhere NEAR these bags. Ten steps later and the guy is out the door with YOUR stuff. HUH??

  • @bubbalo3388

    @bubbalo3388

    6 ай бұрын

    It's not just Seattle that doesn't secure luggage at baggage claim where anyone can come and go.

  • @user-zp7jp1vk2i

    @user-zp7jp1vk2i

    6 ай бұрын

    @@bubbalo3388 not asking, but I can't think of an airport where you can just waltz out with no oversight with someone else's baggage.....from Kalispell to Kelowna.

  • @bubbalo3388

    @bubbalo3388

    6 ай бұрын

    @@user-zp7jp1vk2i well I'm telling you. What airports do you go to? I can name some for you. SAN Diego, San Francisco, Orlando, Los Angeles, Oahu, Maui, Seattle.

  • @grantfulwiler1025
    @grantfulwiler10257 ай бұрын

    Someone stole my dog once and tried to sell him on craigslist. Got my dog back and police weren't involved. Sometimes you have to handle stuff the old fashioned way.

  • @MrBobochow
    @MrBobochow6 ай бұрын

    Make the baggage claim part of secure area.

  • @user-ol1wl4cv6f
    @user-ol1wl4cv6f6 ай бұрын

    Make baggage claim a secured area only accessible to valid ticket holders.

  • @containedhurricane
    @containedhurricane7 ай бұрын

    Morality is at an all-time low in the country

  • @victor256in

    @victor256in

    Ай бұрын

    morality was always low. it was heavy consequences that stopped crime.

  • @hmm5131
    @hmm51317 ай бұрын

    Police doing nothing even when they could easily pursue the criminal selling his stuff online? I am shocked. Shocked I say! /s

  • @AmalgamationofMan

    @AmalgamationofMan

    7 ай бұрын

    Cops are on average a waste of tax dollars

  • @visby2548

    @visby2548

    7 ай бұрын

    Police have little control over what they do -- it is the prosecutors and court system ultimately.

  • @metv2363

    @metv2363

    6 ай бұрын

    I thought this trite and stupid expression was actually "I am shocked, I tell you, shocked!"

  • @bubbalo3388

    @bubbalo3388

    6 ай бұрын

    Probably because they know they'll be back on the street within 24 hours. I know a cop that told me there are a lot of people they don't bother arresting because they knew they would just be released because there was this one judge that pretty much tossed charges because he felt it wasn't worth his time. One guy was arrested because he discharged his weapon in public and the judge tossed it out.

  • @nicc8230

    @nicc8230

    4 күн бұрын

    ​@@bubbalo3388still this is a poor excuse for cops not doing their job just because they believe someone else won't do their jobs (judges/prosecutor). 2 wrongs don't make a right.

  • @onebraincellleft2563
    @onebraincellleft25637 ай бұрын

    Poor Daniel - he is out so much money and yet the police won't arrest the thieves.

  • @jeffgrace7266
    @jeffgrace72667 ай бұрын

    Seattle voted this type of leadership into office.. GJ Seattle..

  • @TheShadowKarl

    @TheShadowKarl

    7 ай бұрын

    Rich owners preselected the people everyone got to vote on. Great job ultra wealthy folks that want all the benefits of our government to go to them and not us. There, I fixed your statement.

  • @eulinpetit-woodyear6816
    @eulinpetit-woodyear68166 ай бұрын

    How is the non travelling public have access to these carosels?

  • @WarHawk-
    @WarHawk-7 ай бұрын

    Gee, let's 'Trespass' this person 5 or 10 times before we finally decide to arrest him, says the PD.

  • @JJGreive
    @JJGreive4 ай бұрын

    The surge in airport luggage theft is inexcusable, and it's a direct result of the airlines neglecting basic security measures. We demand a reinstatement of stringent baggage claim procedures-no claim ticket, no bags. Passenger luggage security should never be compromised for profit.

  • @laskey2175
    @laskey21756 ай бұрын

    You should need to show a ticket to get to baggage claim.

  • @lynnciagabalenciaga9281
    @lynnciagabalenciaga92817 ай бұрын

    It’s the fact that the news channel just told that man’s business. His equipment is stored in kitsap county in his garage? Like cmon maaaaan. 😩🙄

  • @friedrichhoffmann4248
    @friedrichhoffmann42487 ай бұрын

    Don’t allow anyone in without plane ticket

  • @liligman

    @liligman

    6 ай бұрын

    How are you going to make a public part of the airport now secured, it’s not feasible. The drives would have to become part of that new security perimeter and every car and person entering it would have to go through screening, it’s not feasible

  • @charlesgreen2647
    @charlesgreen26477 ай бұрын

    Washington State - we keep electing losers and are surprised by the results.

  • @bubbalo3388

    @bubbalo3388

    6 ай бұрын

    You must not travel. Washington isn't the the only state where baggage claim is open to anyone off of the street.

  • @charlesgreen2647

    @charlesgreen2647

    6 ай бұрын

    I've been to 49 States and over 30 countries, but I didn't help build those airports with my tax dollars. Law enforcement and personal integrity has gone down the toilet in Washington State.

  • @Anetnetlovesnoopy
    @Anetnetlovesnoopy4 ай бұрын

    SeaTac needs to bring back checking tickets and bag tags.

  • @ThePecunious
    @ThePecunious7 ай бұрын

    Ridiculous! What a shame!

  • @schemp001
    @schemp0017 ай бұрын

    typical Blaming the victims for checking the bag

  • @jimmyneutron6127
    @jimmyneutron61276 ай бұрын

    If you can't get into the terminal without proper tsa. Limit who can go into the baggage area!!!! It isn't hard to eliminate it in one swoop..

  • @Here4theComments9
    @Here4theComments914 күн бұрын

    People who refuse to press charges are pathetic. It emboldens criminals to think they can get away with it because they aren’t held accountable. I choke on your “compassion”.

  • @peterdoubleyouz
    @peterdoubleyouz7 ай бұрын

    America is pretty much the only country on the planet where baggage claim is accessible to anyone off the street. Why?

  • @barkeyes8592
    @barkeyes85927 ай бұрын

    When checking in your luggage the airport should be able to attach an apple tag of sorts that can only be retrieved out of the claim area by the claimant with the same signal and number. As a thief leaves the area a siren will go off bringing an airline security attendant to address the situation and take the bag from the thief.

  • @TC-cd5sm

    @TC-cd5sm

    7 ай бұрын

    They can easily implement this. They just don't want to because it will cost the airlines more money for security. LaGuardia is one of the few airports in the US that will not let you leave the baggage claim area with your bag unless the bag tag matches your claim check. No claim check, the bag will not leave baggage claim.

  • @TheShadowKarl
    @TheShadowKarl7 ай бұрын

    It would be easy to stop this by ONLY allowing ticketed passengers and airline baggage handlers in this area of the airport. They already have large portions of the airport blocked off from non-ticketed passengers, it would not be hard to add this section to the areas blocked to the public.

  • @bubbalo3388

    @bubbalo3388

    6 ай бұрын

    It used to be this way a long time ago.

  • @R.O.O.T.
    @R.O.O.T.6 ай бұрын

    The best defense is avoid fly to this airport. Excuse after excuse. SEATAC can close off the baggage area and only allow landed passengers to be there.

  • @susanf9056
    @susanf905614 күн бұрын

    Telling passengers the best thing to do is not check your bag at all is absolutely ridiculous. Or logical system can be implemented to stop theft in the first place. Problem solved. Treat the cause not the symptoms.

  • @wc4658
    @wc46583 ай бұрын

    How about only allowing people who flew into seatac into luggage area.

  • @SandraHof
    @SandraHof18 күн бұрын

    How about going back to what used to be done; have an airport employee at the exit from baggage who checks that you have the correct bag?

  • @y_i_fly6256
    @y_i_fly625619 күн бұрын

    What’s really pathetic is the DA’s inability to prosecute the perpetrators. Criminals victimize, they’re not the victims.

  • @alanlangley7246
    @alanlangley72467 ай бұрын

    that what happens when you legalize any kind of DRUGS use in the state

  • @bubbalo3388

    @bubbalo3388

    6 ай бұрын

    Not all criminals use drugs.

  • @fremontpathfinder8463
    @fremontpathfinder84637 ай бұрын

    The only place I trust to check in baggage is in the YVR airport (Vancouver) - fewer people, more control. On my way back to LA, I never check my bag.

  • @CharleyTank
    @CharleyTank10 күн бұрын

    Crazy how security captured them opening bags but did nothing about it.

  • @ElissaMariesa-ro7bp
    @ElissaMariesa-ro7bp7 ай бұрын

    yet another reason it’s annoying/frustrating when you’re forced to check your carry on at the gate

  • @user-zp7jp1vk2i
    @user-zp7jp1vk2i7 ай бұрын

    In Vancouver YVR Canada security/tag check is right where you see NO PERSONNEL by the exit near the baggage carousels. What is going on in Sea-TAC?? The next step and you're out on the sidewalk and into your car with someone else bags. WTF?

  • @kennethawesome
    @kennethawesome7 ай бұрын

    I avoid check-in my luggages as much as possible.

  • @SpotTheBorgCat

    @SpotTheBorgCat

    7 ай бұрын

    My sister and her husband went to Europe last summer and ONLY packed two carry - ons! They were gone for 34 days!! Wow!

  • @user-ub8uc8gq7r

    @user-ub8uc8gq7r

    5 ай бұрын

    This is why I always travel light. Take my backpack and 1 small duffel bag carry on. That’s all I need. Nothing gets checked in.

  • @RollGlide
    @RollGlideАй бұрын

    It's simple: Poor airport flow design. You can't keep luggage claim open to the street access... It's outrageous to hear “Don't check in bags” or “Don't put expensive items in your checked bags.” Airport, do your job!

  • @TC-cd5sm
    @TC-cd5sm7 ай бұрын

    The best thing to do to keep your stuff safe? Don't fly into SeaTac period. As for the reporter recommending AirTags, just because you can locate your bag, does not mean police can recover it for you. You can track your items to their house and police will not have enough to go in without a search warrant signed by a judge.

  • @kloeffler
    @kloeffler4 күн бұрын

    why is baggage claim in the general public area?? They say don't leave your luggage alone around strangers but they do it for you...

  • @bobbriggs9748
    @bobbriggs97487 ай бұрын

    Is there not one bit of moral fibre in america? To the world it looks like a toilet bowl, we want to flush it.

  • @kai-jm7bb
    @kai-jm7bb7 ай бұрын

    As travelers are robbed the elected officials at the Port of Seattle are focused on stocking men's restrooms with tampons...wish I was kidding.

  • @beniamintrif358

    @beniamintrif358

    7 ай бұрын

    WTF ?

  • @lisalee3067

    @lisalee3067

    7 ай бұрын

    😅😅😅

  • @BonnieBlair-zm4uu

    @BonnieBlair-zm4uu

    7 ай бұрын

    😂 where 🤯 are they putting them? Wait 😔 I don't want to know 😂.

  • @ducksamok1716
    @ducksamok171610 күн бұрын

    Baggage claim should be in a secure area and not where anyone from outside can just walk into the airport. Also, put an AirTag in your luggage.

  • @WalkawayRene12
    @WalkawayRene127 ай бұрын

    I haven’t checked a bag in 20 years. No thanks.

  • @dmpi483
    @dmpi4837 ай бұрын

    That explain why I see the homeless dragging their luggage next to their shopping cart.

  • @proudasiangirl576
    @proudasiangirl5769 күн бұрын

    Airports need to protect passengers with their own belongings. They need cordon off the baggage area and ONLY allowed to enter from the arrival flights area and should ONLY be allowed to exit Baggage Claim once they've matched the claim ticket(s) with the baggage. This would ONLY make too much sense. This SHOULD BE the standard at all airports. Why is this not?!

  • @tjbishop8823
    @tjbishop88237 ай бұрын

    Undercover police officers should be watching

  • @thereats3778

    @thereats3778

    7 ай бұрын

    You want police to watch people get luggage? That is dumb. You think they will just use their gut instinct to figure out if that person is a thief or passenger?

  • @JThom-yh3ef
    @JThom-yh3ef3 күн бұрын

    Now that I learned all that, I will definitely arrive at the baggage claim as quickly as possible before these crooks arrive.

  • @peggylee2471
    @peggylee24712 күн бұрын

    Most international airports have baggage claim in a secured area where only arrival passengers can access. I was shocked to find you can walk into baggage claim from the street at airports in the US when i visited there.

  • @ddlang2514
    @ddlang251416 күн бұрын

    AirTag is your solution?! Okay, let’s say you track the bag. Now how you gonna get it out of the thieves house before he unloads all your stuff? And without him/her threatening you? The first guy found his stuff being sold online and the police said they couldn’t do anything about it. Oh, I see… the solution they offer is, don’t check a bag.

  • @cloverconnections
    @cloverconnections7 ай бұрын

    This isn't rocket science we have to go through security to get into the main part why can't we secure this? We pay enough money to fly come on do better SeaTsc!

  • @liligman

    @liligman

    6 ай бұрын

    How do you secure the public part of the airport…how would people coming to pickup their family get in and help, without creating an extremely inconvenient vehicle and person checkpoint that completely secured both drives. It’s not feasible, and if they did it would probably require closing the airport for months to build a new security perimeter. But it’s not rocket science 🤷

  • @gerrylopez5743
    @gerrylopez57436 ай бұрын

    Where’s the crime? Baggage claim? Put airline employees there to verify claim tickets and a cop to keep the peace.

  • @skippes_view
    @skippes_view7 ай бұрын

    The reply that I got when a person was caught with my 18 ‘ enclosed trailer and one of my vehicles and lots of my belongings and my Wife’s truck was he couldn’t be charged because of the “ not my pants rule “ he claimed he payed $2,500 it all .. 😡🤬😡

  • @mybadoof4934
    @mybadoof49344 сағат бұрын

    I seriously never understood why domestic terminals in the US just have absolutely 0 security, any other country at the very least has some sort of wall or door to block access from the public that didn’t go through security smh

  • @trailerhaul8200
    @trailerhaul82007 ай бұрын

    Brazen. Right in a place that is considered top security in commercial environments

  • @mariosalceda37
    @mariosalceda376 ай бұрын

    law enforcer too slow to response, the airport authority should start checking claim tag at the airport door.

  • @da0afd79
    @da0afd7910 сағат бұрын

    The number increase when there’s an increase in traffic??? No, it’s when there’s no consequences for the crime there’s going to be more crime. Airlines even have the audacity to increase baggage fees. How stupid are these people.

  • @jooki3575
    @jooki357510 күн бұрын

    Maybe don't let outsiders come into the baggage claim area? 🙄

  • @Ppoorespect888
    @Ppoorespect8887 ай бұрын

    When exactly can we hold law enforcement accountable 😢

  • @A3Kr0n

    @A3Kr0n

    7 ай бұрын

    Never. Get used to it.

  • @danielpearson4972

    @danielpearson4972

    6 ай бұрын

    Especially in the Seattle area and anti-law corrupt judicial system and council members nothing will be done. I fly out of international to southeast Asia and alaska from central Washington and to international. When I returning I have just have carry-on. Relocated to Asia and this one reason.

  • @oldbatwit5102

    @oldbatwit5102

    6 ай бұрын

    People stealing luggage. KZread... 'Blame Law Enforcement.

  • @Ppoorespect888
    @Ppoorespect8887 ай бұрын

    Many airlines forced you to check in the luggage right before boarding because the luggage cabinet are full. When you trying to get off the plane after it’s been landed, it takes forever for you to get off to get to the luggage conveyor. Yes, Delta, I am talking about you 🫵

  • @christinenicolulis5192
    @christinenicolulis51927 сағат бұрын

    Luggage claim should’nt be accessible to the general public , it still should be behind security till customers claim their bags and leave the security area

  • @xsnjkwfeny-wr9qr
    @xsnjkwfeny-wr9qr6 ай бұрын

    Surprised to hear this now.. Seemed like a vulnerability for decades

  • @jenniferrader9395
    @jenniferrader9395Күн бұрын

    It’s actually cheaper to ship your extra items than check a bag

  • @brewnhell9938
    @brewnhell99386 ай бұрын

    Hey Washington vote better to make these thieves be held responsible. At this point the State is responsible for allowing a soft on crime and excessive homelessness.

  • @gailjames6489
    @gailjames64897 ай бұрын

    Zowie, this is getting ridiculous. 😢

  • @ddlang2514
    @ddlang251416 күн бұрын

    What do you expect from Seattle? Aren’t flyers given luggage claim checks for this reason? Where’s security?

  • @GeminieCricket
    @GeminieCricket6 ай бұрын

    thieves are everywhere

  • @853okgtanfirebird3
    @853okgtanfirebird37 ай бұрын

    Gee What happened to humans checking ticket on bag matched AIRLINE TICKET passenger was given or We need more LIBERALISM in our life's to degrade the system of Law @ Order?????????????????????????????????????????????

  • @EverythingHasAStory

    @EverythingHasAStory

    7 ай бұрын

    I'm using the Seatac airport every year for foreign trips. There's no checking once you pick up your bag from the claim area so any person can pick up your bag and just go away. Also, anybody coming from outside the airport building can freely enter the claim area and can pick up any bag. Also, most passengers from abroad are hold up for a long time in the immigration counters while their bags are already in the claim counter ready to be pick up by anybody. These are the cause of the problems.

  • @rickcastaneda8789
    @rickcastaneda87893 ай бұрын

    This whole story is just a turn around to blame the victims for checking in their own luggage. No arrests, the airlines aren't taking any blames. Yaaaa, let's blame the victim. It's easier that way.

  • @uwone7778
    @uwone7778Ай бұрын

    You mean if there are no consequences criminals will keep doing criminal stuff? You don't say....

  • @sonnymarino7904
    @sonnymarino79047 ай бұрын

    OMG trespassing alerts, that’ll show them thiefs……..

  • @chromebomb
    @chromebomb7 ай бұрын

    THE AIRPORT IS DANGEROUS

  • @user-zp7jp1vk2i
    @user-zp7jp1vk2i7 ай бұрын

    I MAIL my summer clothes to LA: light weight, but I also have a house to send them to, so I travel with one carry on bag. But the diver guy and out of country delays at Port of Entry? Whole new set of problems. Heavy equipment, delayed by clearing immigration, long walks to the baggage area. Or ship your gear as freight, and insure it well.

  • @DLWELD
    @DLWELD6 күн бұрын

    Seems you should have to show a boarding pass prior to accessing a baggage carosel.

  • @cliffhammer7953
    @cliffhammer79536 ай бұрын

    Stay home. Stay safe.

  • @ValkyrieMagnus
    @ValkyrieMagnus7 ай бұрын

    They need better security and Identity Verification before going into baggage claim. Don’t put this on the passengers by saying don’t check in your baggage it should be on the Airport to provide security. It should be simple. No one goes to baggage claim without identification and flight boarding pass

  • @melanie7781
    @melanie77816 ай бұрын

    There has to be a better way to protect baggage. I don't generally pack things that are valuable, or that I would have a hard time replacing.

  • @victor256in
    @victor256inАй бұрын

    If it is legal for homeless and mentally ill people to commit crimes, why have a law at all?

  • @debbieannsmith8962
    @debbieannsmith89626 ай бұрын

    Crazy. Smh. 😮

  • @tl1533
    @tl15337 ай бұрын

    Why don't they have staff screened right before leaving the the baggage claim. The interviewee did not specify the solution for the problem.

  • @SLEEPY0088
    @SLEEPY0088Ай бұрын

    Thanks, that's lesson

  • @leoruiz3969
    @leoruiz3969Ай бұрын

    Worthless city workers not doing enough for travelers

  • @user-gu6xs9ho1g
    @user-gu6xs9ho1g6 ай бұрын

    Theft is at a all time high. What’s up?

  • @koreanmtnbiker2931
    @koreanmtnbiker29316 ай бұрын

    It is airports fault!!!! We people them through our tax and airplane ticket prices. The airport needs to do a lot, a lot more on security on the luggage area. They need to hire for people who can keep an eye on the arrived luggages and more police.

  • @pamallinder3287
    @pamallinder32873 ай бұрын

    this is crazy

  • @XXTHE12THMANXX
    @XXTHE12THMANXX7 ай бұрын

    This is what you get with progressive prosecutors/city leaders

  • @whistlingsage9817
    @whistlingsage98174 ай бұрын

    That was a long native ad for Apple Air Tags.

  • @CalebnCapri
    @CalebnCapri7 ай бұрын

    Greasy... I feel like running to your bag is necessary

  • @mattweh
    @mattweh8 күн бұрын

    Gotta hide AirTags or some other gps tracker in your luggage!

  • @samk6611
    @samk66118 күн бұрын

    Police stoped me to talk me about my trip when I found My bag was gone.

  • @igneousy
    @igneousy3 ай бұрын

    Why do you empower thieves by concealing their identity.

  • @lisalee3067
    @lisalee30677 ай бұрын

    It’s just a free for all total lawlessness.

  • @0-1-x
    @0-1-x7 ай бұрын

    To get luggages after flight has to be change.

  • @moij5962
    @moij59626 ай бұрын

    The door should be locked

  • @byb0n
    @byb0n7 ай бұрын

    Shame on thieves

  • @thereats3778

    @thereats3778

    7 ай бұрын

    😂 cute welcome from underneath your rock.