Mate the devs whole concept and design of lucius is a joke. He doesn't dispel the buff from the Valderon boss. Also, the idea that the boss has 3 stacks, you dispell, and 10 seconds later the boss has 4 stacks is ridiculous. A debuffer in every game ever existed would get rid of the 3 stacks, and the boss would start building stacks from 1.

@Naxis0368

9 күн бұрын

That was the main problem at first, but the developers just change lucius kit, and not semrahs bug!!!!!

@michaelkoch1110

9 күн бұрын

​@Naxis0368 yeah but the change was useless

@Naxis0368

9 күн бұрын

@@michaelkoch1110 that's what i said!!!!, it might be easier to just make it that the buff on the boss resets back to 1 after it was dispelled by lucius!!!!

@michaelkoch1110

9 күн бұрын

@@Naxis0368 thats what it should do lol.... literally what every debuffer has ever done

@Naxis0368

9 күн бұрын

@@michaelkoch1110 but the gb 2 semrah should reset back to 0, but it replenishes back to 1 and ads another one making it two buffs instead of only 1 buff. Ex.1 Semrah- 1 buff Lucius- dispels the buff Semrah- applies the buff back and adds another one. Ex. 2 Semrah- 2 buffs Lucius- dispels the two buffs Semrah- replenishes the 2 buffs and add another buff. Lucius should dispel all the buffs, but semrah replenishes all the buffs that lucius despelled and adding another one. Problem- Lucius can't keep up dispelling all the buffs, as semrahs aegis skill activates in close intervals. And with the rework of lucius kit, it's even harder to keep up dispelling semrahs buffs. The new kit dispells five buffs in the next attack, but his ult is 20 seconds long, and even longer to regenerate the ultimate, making it that lucius can't dispell semrahs buff in time.!!!

after fidling around with gb2, due to how stacks comes back you want to timing lucius with your other heroes ults, but the fact that demonic embrace is so shitty and unreliably going off is just stupid. a few times i had lucius go into demonic embrace BEFORE reaching full rage, its all fine for dmg but when you actually need him for what his real purpose of dispelling that is horrible hero design

@genpotrait2274

8 күн бұрын

His first design already perfect, *if semrah doesnt get back buff that have been dispel and just get 1 stack buff each time* Because he doesnt need to dispel thay many if he keep dispeling isnt? Rather they ignore this and makes his kit shitty rn. Gis demonic form rng really will fck we up most of the time

so its half cooked lucius after his fix and gb2 needs fixing now haha. anyway still a nice vid.

The game is not ready for lucius , how do you discrimate between a buff that can be dispelled and what that can not ? so far I was only able to ever dispel Semrah hardening stacks , any other attempt never worked. Has anyone seen a dispellable buff somewhere ?

This was my first question when I learned about the fact that his damage escalation was still broken. If nothing else, this gives us huge insight into the programming aspect of the game. There are 2 ways this could have been programmed. In the first, both aspects are linked together via the 'hardening stack icon', so when one is affected, the other is automatically affected as well. This is the easier of the two methods to fix, as you only have to alter one set of variables. In the second, both are independent of one another, meaning you have to change each separately. This gives you more flexibility overall, but also means you need to look at and change two sets of variables if both need to be adjusted. Personally, I wouldn't necessarily say one way is better than the other from a programming standpoint, but it does give us an indication of how and why it might not be as easy or quick to fix or adjust certain aspects of the game.

This was an amazing anniversary, but the Devs really dropped the ball with Lucius x Semrah. They should've at least made it that each hit Lucius does in his ult has a (relatively high) chance of removing 3 stacks. This 5 stack single removal thing is garbage for Semrah given he Aegis' twice per shield rotation. Lucius helped me get my numbers up ngl, but not as impressively as I was hoping.

Exactly, that's what I've been doing as well with Lucius and he really doesn't disappoint

Fastidious did a huge disservice here. He has no understanding of game mechanics himself so he gave out all kinds of inaccurate and distorted info. A huge chunk of the community has no idea what's happening now and people are demanding all kinds of fixes for things that aren't even broken. Glad someone is more level headed.

@genpotrait2274

8 күн бұрын

But this thing is broken

@pink_jezus

8 күн бұрын

Man's just on an anti-fasti warpath lol. Took me two days to get him to admit semrah bug was the devs fault 😂

@BattleChi777

8 күн бұрын

@@genpotrait2274 Semrah is broken, not lucius

@BattleChi777

8 күн бұрын

@@pink_jezus I don't think i ever denied Semrah was broken and needed fixed. I said there was never a problem with Lucius, the overhype was on ccs, we got exactly what we were promised with Lucious, and it was a problem to rush to making videos attributing bugs to Lucius when they should be attributed to Semrah. It's not my fault Fasti makes tons of wild claims that aren't based in reality.

@genpotrait2274

8 күн бұрын

@@BattleChi777 "this thing" i refer indeed is semrah. But again, because its all in the background we doesnt know exactly who is totally broken. It could be the interaction meaning sometimes you can fix one of the other to fix all the problem sometimes you need both to be fixed. Dev changing just lucius is definetely not a good assement from their part

Lucius also doesn’t work at the Valderon boss. He cannot dispel his buffs! So Lucius ist still not working as he should do, according to his kit description. Or did I understand something wrong in his kit?

@Binzob

8 күн бұрын

Almost like the Valderon boss says the buffs are permanent

@1923825

8 күн бұрын

@@Binzob Does it say permanent or undispelable? These two are different.

@Binzob

8 күн бұрын

@@1923825 in other games maybe, wor has never had a buff dispel so there has been no need to distinguish. It definitely doesnt come across as a mechanic that should be cancelled by one hero anyways

@1923825

7 күн бұрын

@@Binzob I agree that when there was no dispel function, there is no need to distinguish, but once the dispel mechanism is introduced, they must refine buff descriptions.

What about not controlling when to use his ult? I thought I was stupid for not being able to use the ult, because it always uses up rage before I can manually activate it. this Lucius mechanic needs adjustments.

What we seen is that when removing his sheilds. We were still getting hit hard as if his sheilds were at 5 or 6 stacks even though lucious took away 5. Don't think that's how it should work

@WorGuides

9 күн бұрын

Yep they gotta fix it

@SoldierBoy13

9 күн бұрын

He removes hardening. When the boss gains hardening it triggers the atk increase. That part cannot be removed its not a buff.

I summoned him till A3 and now im a bit sad its not working 100%..

I didn't think either that it would be needed to make this. Finally someone that shows that the game provides numbers and doesn't go full exaggerated lies clown mode. Still, there are bugs with the dispel and your numbers show it clearly. Assuming 7209 "base" damage 0 shields 7029 1 shields 7029 - no reduction ?! 2 shields 6323 - 1x 10% (7029 *0.9 ~= 6323) 3 shields 5693 - 2x 10% (7029 *0.9 * 0.9 ~= 5693) 4 shields 5125 - 3x 10% (7029 *0.9 * 0.9 * 0.9 ~= 5125) 5 shields 4613 - 4x 10% (7029 *0.9 * 0.9 *0.9 * 0.9 ~= 4613) 6 shields 4420 - ?!? should have been ~ 4152 but it isn't dispel 5 buffs @ 6, leaving him with 1: 1 shields 6323 - 1x 10% (7029 *0.9 ~= 6323) Bugs: - Removing hardness stacks should reduce the damage of the earth shatter as well - Boss shouldn't "remember" how many hardness stacks there were before the dispel so that he reapplies them along the new stack. - The first 2-5 shields damage results should be observed at 1-4 shields instead. The damage with the 6th shield is not consistent to the geometric progression. - The final dispel results in 1 shield with 10% reduction, which should be the behavior in the first place but the fact that it is different than the number with 1 shields at the start, is a bug itself. My presumption is that Lucius is dispelling 5 buff but not the 5 buffs we expect. Everything effect that happens in this game is internally a buff and Lucius just dispels let's say the last 5 applied, which happen to be the damage reduction. The original hidden hardness counter buff that increments every aegis is not dispelled and based on it it applies the shield icons. Or something like that. Also: boss is not broken. The new offensive dispel hero mechanic is. Unfortunately this is much harder to "fix" and judging how Moonton rushed to change Lucius spell instead of investigating the root cause, reminds me of the inadequate handling of the Wicked Vengeance problem. And how they "fixed" the non-existing Magda "bug". Rushed hotfixes to soothe angry pitchfork crowd.

@genpotrait2274

8 күн бұрын

Yeah indeed this is might be actual big problem and need big overhaul in the code itself thats why its really annoying that dev did not really look about this issue seriously. The instant change of lucius kit is prime example, because we know that not the main problem. There is deeper root problem with his whole interaction with semrah.

So that means that Semrah is crazy bugged. You can remove its DMG reduction but not DMG buff and still he is getting all his previously removed buffs at once...

@WorGuides

9 күн бұрын

the previous buffs should be intentional though it seems

@WorGuides

9 күн бұрын

so yeah the 1 stack 2,3,4,5,6 stack mech should be intentional

@genpotrait2274

8 күн бұрын

​@@WorGuideswhich it shouldnot. Imagine if this behaviour also apply to poison stack that we remove. We remove 7, next time it apply 14, we remove 14 next time 21, and goes on. If they want boss to get buff progressively, then it should apply regardless if the bufc has been removed or not. So yeah this boss phase 2 will be hard and he will get 6 stack just with 3 times buffing for example if you dont dispel it

Lets be honest, its not easy to go each 2 hardening mode with how lucius rng works. Many testimony already said that he will just go to demon form. It is really unlike how we can timed perfectly elowyn ult because of rng mechanism If you click those buffs, it states clearly it also increase the dmg of shattering so lucius dispeling it indeed should lower back the dmg which he is not. Atm, only the dmg reduction get removed so yeah

Thanks for heads up

I actually need the survivability he should provide on that mode of the boss because this is where i die because my account is lacking legendary healers. I wouldn't say my account is bad or weak but I'm stuck at 20-25k on first difficulty and 8-9k on the second difficulty. The boss is unreasonably hard unless you have a fully endgame account.

Its still bugged though isnt it

@WorGuides

9 күн бұрын

@@chrisheemi2400 dmg part yes the dmg reduction part no

For me, the progressive buff of Semrah doesn't make sense and its only being more disadvantageous for player using Lucius. what do I mean by that? If I bring a team without Lucius against the Aegis mode, the buff start from 1 shield to 6 shield stacks progressively, When no shield buff is being removed, the buff sequence is always +1 for each time it activates NOW, if I bring Lucius to the team and uses the debuff ult it always adds back the other debuff that was previously removed. So instead of +1 progressively, it will become +2 the 2nd turn, +3 the 3rd and +4 the 4th even if i manage to remove consistently every turn. This is just blardy stupid and make Lucius sort of obsolete because I might as well use a better DPS like Silas to avoid the penalty of re-adding the progressive debuffs. In short. The buff for Semrah when not using Lucius is +1 consistently, but when using Lucius is +1(1st turn), +2(2nd Turn) +3(3rd turn).... until +6. Moontoon, if you're seeing this. If you really intended to make it a Geometric progression buff, then apply it to non-Lucius team as well, make it +10 stacks to be fair. Some Moontoon WhiteKnight might argues that the recent Lucious buff have made it alot viable and I should probably not complain. If a debuff is removed, THEN ITS REMOVED FOR GOOD.

@WorGuides

9 күн бұрын

the boss doesnt take an extra buff with or without lucius it goes 1->2->3->4->5->6

@WorGuides

9 күн бұрын

where would u even get that idea from that it goes 1 3 6? just curious

@Itamaru

9 күн бұрын

​@@WorGuides Mechanically it doesnt take extra buff, however the boss readded back the buffs that Lucius just removed seconds ago. So effectively it makes the buffs progressive when you use Lucius If I have to choose between 2 DPS, lets just say between Silas and Lucius, at the current state i would choose Silas in a heart beat because when I use Silas, i dont get the penalty of readded buffs. In other words, the readded buffs seems to be only a penalty specifically for character like Lucius which i find it ridiculous for people who pulled for him

@WorGuides

9 күн бұрын

@@Itamaru lucius still does good dps himself and the dmg windows he buys u if u cleanse when the boss applys the buffs till he applies them again is pretty huge especiall for 3 buffs +

@Itamaru

9 күн бұрын

​ @WorGuides that itself is also another issue, because you need to make sure it doesn't goes into demon mode when you want to sync with the team into full DPS mode + Inspiration. I have tried multiple times on this and find it impossible to sync the time window between cleanse + full team DPS mode(inspiration + other ults). As a result, i din't really get much improvement in my Semrah score compare to pre-Lucius buffs. Perhaps maybe you can show us how it can be done, I am always stuck at stage 3 Aegis because I cant successfully remove those debuffs in sync.

These dev don't even play their own game.

But then lucius is not the god mode player we all threw our wañlet at..

Someone is thinking, great! : )

The main purpose is removing buffs, that means the buffs for dmg reduction that are the same for increased dmg for the boss So no, it's just half working. Btw Lucius is not removing buffs on other bosses. Btw the problem on gb2 is the boss. Btw their fix and patch for Lucius made him remove buffs on his ultimate, but only in the first hit...makes no sense.

@WorGuides

9 күн бұрын

@@nunopereira526 XD

So is Lucius a one trick pony?

@aldrich_leon8547

9 күн бұрын

yup pretty much. i predicted that lucious would end up like falcia. strong in one content, mid on the rest

@Binzob

8 күн бұрын

He always was going to be

Solution is don't waste you're skill crystals or any resources on Lucius even though we already spent to get him. I think devs don't know how a DEBUFFER should work. It felt like I have been robbed.

@SoldierBoy13

8 күн бұрын

I think they're the only ones who know how ot should work seeing as they created it the way they wanted to. Not their fault you assumed it work another way. Not saying there aren't things to be fixed but it's not gonna make a big difference

@genpotrait2274

8 күн бұрын

​@@SoldierBoy13people are not dumb. And this gimmick is not new, people who play games knows about it and knows how it works in general. If they wanna introduce new way of how this mechanic works, they should explain it. Because as of right now all of it just isnt makes any sense

@SoldierBoy13

8 күн бұрын

@genpotrait2274 people are incredibly dumb and I agree you could easily assume it should work another way but at the same time it's kinda whatever they want. Sounds like they made some changes already though! Hopefully it's enough to make everyone happy.

Didnt Fastidious prove that the removal of the aegis buffs is just visual? Ie still bugged.

@WorGuides

9 күн бұрын

only for the earth shatter dmg not the increased dmg reduction

Breaking news: Cringetedious dropped by Moonton. Rumor has it his parents might be next.

Dude, thank you for making this video. You didn't have to make it, but you did it anyway. Fastidious' video was SUPER cringe, and his attitude lately (just complaining about every little thing) has made me genuinely consider unsubscribing from him. Thank you for doing what you do. You're the best, and I always look forward to your videos.

@Matthews_Dintwe

9 күн бұрын

Lol

@justinlovern1902

9 күн бұрын

I'm happy Fasti made a video complaining about it and documenting the issue. I blew all my summons to get Lucius for Semrah and, so far, he has not done what I expected.

@mist2136

9 күн бұрын

stupid take, being 'super cringe' or how any normal adult would word it 'animated and enthusiastic' is what's helping to push problems to the devs and getting people talking. A CC has a role to put forward the complaints of the players and fans to their dev contacts, thus if that's the way he's acting then it can be seen as the general rhetoric of the subscribers. guarantee nobody cares if you unsubscribe especially when you use language like 'super cringe' haha.

@1923825

9 күн бұрын

At least gb2 is not little thing

@user-cu7bk4gf4o

9 күн бұрын

Fastidious has always been like that in my opinion