People get screwed up over HP It’s a mathematical equation based on torque production Big blocks rule

@manoftruth6618

5 ай бұрын

Yep. A mild 454 (500 hp) will launch a 3500lb vehicle like a rocket. It’s such a rush to have so much torque right off idle.

@ngauruhoezodiac3143

4 ай бұрын

When it comes to performance the power to weight ratio rules. A big block weighs 50% more than a small block.

@antilaw9911

Ай бұрын

​@@ngauruhoezodiac3143wrong. Not 50%

@thereluctantgearhead4544

29 күн бұрын

​@@ngauruhoezodiac3143aluminium head bigblock don't weigh much more than a SBC. And the power they make more than pulls the weight. Bigblocks have always been king shit on the street since they were invented. They originally were designed to take no prisoners in NASCAR racing. So they were a racing engine first, pass car engine later. Then big trucks got them. Notice they didn't put LS engines in 18,000lb RVs, but they did get bigblocks. Ain't no comparison to those who think logical.

@ngauruhoezodiac3143

29 күн бұрын

@@thereluctantgearhead4544 And how much do the aluminium heads cost? They might weigh 30lb less but if you are not racing is it worth it?

I’m 60 years old and I have 5 big blocks and one LS. I agree with this video. My 84 model is very reliable. Sounds great too. Just something about that rumble.

like he said , pop the hood , a 454 , " a big chunck of american iron '' ... that is selling

Great video! I’m excited to see the two trucks head to head😎

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

You and me both! Thanks for watching!

Great video Pete. Lookin forward to the showdown.

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

You and me both! Thanks for watching!

Awesome can’t wait to see the race

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

You and me both! Thanks for watching!

Old school hell yea just got done putting a big block in a s10 a lot of work but it’s cool I think great video

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

Ol Skool baby! Thanks for watching!

Very informative. Great video!

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!

I just bought a 79 Square Body project truck. It's pretty complete body wise, but in the engine bay sits a 454 in front of a TH400 and that's it. It didn't come with a single drive bracket. The truck came with a 350 and had AC and PS. If I track down all the small block brackets, do they fit, or should I be looking for BB brackets that weren't designed for this truck? Thanks for a great video.

VERY COOL APPROACH!!!! Old school bbc lover too but question the Ls swap. Nicely done!

LS4 super duty 455 awesome horsepower and insane tour I just imagine if you went twin turbo on either motor💪

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

That would be cool! Thanks for watching!

I'm just a home wrencher, I have a 350, 454 and 494 in my toy shed. I pay zero to professionals. I like it because I can do everything myself and make silly power

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

I love both camps. Each have their place. Thanks for watching!

Great info!

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!

i looked for the comparison video and didn't find it. did i miss it, or did you not make it

The LS only shines in stock form with a single turbo, making 600hp up to maybe 1000hp on a stock engine, once you have to modify the engine to handle more power the LS no longer has any advantage, the truth is that any high hp engine now days is aftermarket block and heads, with all aftermarket internal parts, so at what point does the stock or lightly modified engine hold up to, but once fully modified it comes down to personally what you like, not what makes more power

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

I agree but once it is all aftermarket is it a Chevy. Ford or Chrysler??? The basic design is there but nothing is from the factory. Thanks for watching!

@christophermix6845

Жыл бұрын

Yep, basically if you have a big block build it or if you have a LS build it. But hard to beat a LS when it comes to size they fit in everything haha. And hard to beat LS efi, from what I've heard EFI systems for old school motors takes a lot of work to make run right. Have 2 friends that tried it but ended just throwing a carb back on.

@prophetleejames

Жыл бұрын

Preach

@henrywal

11 ай бұрын

I'm glad 550 hp is my goal

@cargotoolshop5319

11 ай бұрын

@@henrywal an 5.3L with opened up ring gap, open the second ring more than the first, maybe as much as double, I heard a guy say he does.125 and sees no ill effect, he said you will notice when you get peak power it doesn't fall off as if when you have extra gap on the second, otherwise good head gaskets and maybe a camshaft and valve spring for more RPM, and let it rip, bone stockish with a GT45 TURBO from ebay, enjoy

Went looking for the follow up and could not find it. I assume the truck that was having all the problems es one of the trucks you were r referring to here.

That's why I'ma go 400sbc with 560hp💪🏾💪🏾

I'll leave the LS for the younger crowd and stick with my old Gen 4s. I run them in both my hotrods and my brothers 48 Chevy coupe. 😊

@TheOddRodGarage

11 ай бұрын

I'm old school! Thanks for watching!

Old school engine with efi technology is what I'm talking about 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾the ls is fine but them old engines will run nice with efi its basically the same set up I'm running holley sniper efi on my old school small block and the cold starts are no problem..

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Man I agree with you, I personally am a diehard big block guy, I love the LS too, but my #1 pick would be a big block built with some modern tech like EFI, electronic fuel pump, and especially for mopars a superior oil pump. But to get LS reliability out of a big block is not that hard and man are they fun to drive!

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

100% Thanks for watching!

@GunnarKennedy

11 ай бұрын

The 8100 vortec is pretty much exactly this. Y girdle and cathedral ports on a monster rat engine :)

Sbc 400 dynoed at 633 hp. All new parts and modern machineing. From carb to oil pan 12k... cant build LS for that price. Super fun and you cant get the deep healthy sound out of ls like a gen 1 motor

@TheOddRodGarage

11 ай бұрын

It depends on your application! Thanks for watching!

@ryangulley2051

9 ай бұрын

Can easily build a ls for way cheaper and smoke that 400 with ease

@shootermcgavin2819

4 ай бұрын

​@@ryangulley2051 wrong. same price. Wanna talk to professional drag racers, circle track racers etc about why they should switch to a shitty ls platform that blows heads and breaks valvetrain components and leaks everywhere.. go ahead

@jerryrice2752

Ай бұрын

@@shootermcgavin2819😂

@thereluctantgearhead4544

29 күн бұрын

​@@ryangulley2051LS sucks!!!!!! Fanboy....

I'm not sure why big block = 454. I'm running a 632 from Blueprint. You can certainly get the 815+ hp out of a suoercharged LS, but probably not on pump gas, and reliability will come into question. If you have to run methanol to turn up the boost, it really reaks havoc on all the parts. Sound was covered here, but the 632 is generally much deeper and more distinctive than an LS.

I’m in Minnesota and every shop that has a name for their self want 20k plus for a LS swap or won’t touch it at all

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

If you do it yourself you will save a ton. Thanks for watching!

@zr1888

11 ай бұрын

Not in Texas

@Bosscross03

3 ай бұрын

Sucks to live in Minnesota.

@thereluctantgearhead4544

29 күн бұрын

Being trendy ain't cheap....

Honestly it depends, if your towing ,drag racing and don't care about mileage ,big block... If it's your daily or summer vehicle and need to get good mileage, ls is more efficient

@TheOddRodGarage

11 ай бұрын

Agreed! Thanks for watching!

Gen 6 454 best of both worlds ls style gaskets 1 piece rear main sea lbetter cooling priority oiling roller cam 4 bolt main ,how you doin?

I think it depends on what you're trying to achieve with your build. If you're looking for day in day out low end power and high torque figures for use in a pickup truck application a big block will be better hands down. If you like the ability of tune on the fly, more drivability and value mpg to some extent (not that anyone really builds for that) LS I suspect will be a better route to go.

632 BBC is the new KING!

@TheOddRodGarage

10 ай бұрын

Sounds cheap too!

@stevenbean9706

2 ай бұрын

@@TheOddRodGaragedepends on the person building it and what tools are at your disposal.

@user-ou3yd5de7h

Ай бұрын

ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY!!

@AaronOwnby

23 күн бұрын

That’s a regular one tho gotta get a zz632

@77chevy4x4

7 күн бұрын

What’s cheap !?!? The money wasted on performance that never happens. Or a decent built 454 … And it drips oil . Big whoop 🙌🏼

There is no replacement for displacement! I have both. I have an ls3. Tuned and cammed up. I also have a zz502. The Ls3 doesn't have the torque of the zz502. On the street torque is KING!

@TheOddRodGarage

11 ай бұрын

I agree completely but.................. With the Big Block you can pass everything except a gas station! Thanks for watching!

@garyfleming4101

3 ай бұрын

Except your comparing a passenger car LS to a Crate GM performance motor. Very very apples to oranges. The 502 is purpose built, at least compare it to a LSX.

Where can I find the best correct converstion info. For each Chevy Camaro, Nova, and Chevelle?

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

I'm not really sure. I just do my own thing! Thanks for watching!

I have an LS7 and it is dependable, torquey, and VERY easy to work on and its a BIG BLOCK. Reliability is the biggest factor. I also have an LS6 Z06 and welp-she needs special oil, zinc, etc lol

I’m saving my little money to get a big block chevy 454

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

Great engine. Thanks for watching!

@jerryrice2752

Ай бұрын

Won’t need to save for too long

You ignored the big blocks with fuel injection like the gen 6 vortec 454 .Is this because it’s not worth using (intact)?That is it must be converted to old school carb and after market intake manifold etc to get any performance out of it.Ei it’s not going to get any decent gas mileage no matter which route you take(unlike an LS with factory fi that gets great mpg).

Had my local shop install a new factory Chevy 454HO with Edelbrock Pro Flow 4 on a 1989 3/4 ton Suburban and I absolutely love it ! My rig has a TH400 , 4.56 gears and 37 inch tires, Posi 14 bolt rear end and Eaton electric locker on the front. Made the decision to pour the money into an old school rig as I will never spend 90k on a new truck. I also highly recommend cross over steering on the Square Body's.

What about Olds big block prices

He might be right about once the computer going out out , your doom on the side of the road . That is rarely tho ,. When do you see a corvette or and LS car on the side . Besides with a Flat tire. What I do see is when I go to hot rod car shows or meets... I might see a few on the side of the road with their big blocks . Either over heating in a summer day or they will always bring fiddling with the carb . . I like both . Big Block and LS. But I’m going to LS this time . Power , and reliability. Probably after 5-10 years I would want a BiG Block . lol 😂

LS is cheaper on gas. I have a 454 and an LS in 2 of my vehicles and the LS is definitely cheaper on gas, but I like the power of the 454 more.

@markcummings2093

Жыл бұрын

Love the content

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Thanks for watching!

@thereluctantgearhead4544

29 күн бұрын

So buy a Prius, I hear they are pretty good on gas, but not much else.

To each their own but I'd rather run a clapped-out 305sbc than lower myself to playing follow the loser and run a ls anything.. just my personal opinion and experience.

@TheOddRodGarage

5 ай бұрын

Follow the loser......... That's rough. I like both worlds. I don't think there is a "wrong camp". There are reasons for both.

@rogerlbl7316

5 ай бұрын

@@TheOddRodGarage I agree but I'm so sick and tired of hearing people say "LS Swap It" instead of rebuilding the current engine. I made that mistake in my 72 GMC Sierra, absolute nightmare and didn't run near as well as the original 350. It's not a plug and play swap like everyone thinks, not cheap either!

@shootermcgavin2819

4 ай бұрын

​​@@rogerlbl7316me too. couldn't agree more. LS is the biggest peice of shit platform ive ever seen. They break valvetrain components like crazy, leak everywhere and have less cylinder head clamping force. Im so sick of everyone doing monkey see monkey do going with an overrated engine platform. They all say LS have good gas mileage. pshh not really. Also with today's affordable aluminum cylinder heads, sbc can make an easy 500 hp

@thereluctantgearhead4544

29 күн бұрын

Follow the sheep more like it. But they read on the internet........

@thereluctantgearhead4544

29 күн бұрын

LS fanboys made me hate LS engines. Or maybe it's just LS fanboys I hate. LS is just another engine. Pretty disposable too, like everything else built in the past 20+yrs. They are the everybody gets a trophy engine for people that can't build engines. Just add eBay turbo and pull the pin on that fuckin grenade. Waste of time.

Lol the wife says in the 1850’s that was funny

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

What was funny?

"No replacement for displacement"

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

Power adders??? Thanks for watching!

@joe-hp4nk

Жыл бұрын

@@TheOddRodGarage I was referring to NA engines.

@E-Street

Жыл бұрын

@@TheOddRodGarage Put a power adder on a 454 and you will get more power than putting a power adder on a small block LS.

I guess Benjamin is gonna have to name his next dog LS. 😄

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

Yup. Thanks for watching!

One wire and that big block will run.

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

I agree! Thanks for watching!

I'm gonna settle the argument........the amount of head bolts between the two. BBC wins. Bottom end and weight, LS wins

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

What about a 572?

The power and torque curves aren't even close. It's more important for the newer engines to have a good set up, if the setup isn't right the newer engines are dogs. I've always said the best LS mods are gearing and converter.

Turbos work rreal good on bigblocks too....

@shootermcgavin2819

4 ай бұрын

Actually due to the design flaw of the LS engine where it has inadequate head bolt clamping force caused by inadequate deck thickness.... sbc and bbc hold better

@thereluctantgearhead4544

29 күн бұрын

​@@shootermcgavin2819yep, I'll take a bigblock over a LS everytime. I have some pretty stout NA SBCs tucked away too. I've built around 20 LS engines, I wasent impressed and the parts were expensive as hell. But wasent my shit, so I didn't have to pay for them. People like to be trendy. Fuckin sheep....

That Big Block going to set that ass on fire when getting busy with fast cars.

@TheOddRodGarage

11 ай бұрын

Big block, big power!

Im gonna throw a truck norris in my suburban and after 07 rods with a little port job. That's my 01 suburban. However my 84 k5 is getting it 400 i found from a friend at work. His brother stuck it in a vett a racing it on 8th mile for a while before letting depression win. Well it's just a block my angle plug cast heads got stolen and sold off years ago. My other 84 chevy sports a tall deck 427 and my sons 1984 GMC 4X4 has a solid cam 383. My sons truck left a V8 factory raptor by two truck lengths.

454 👍

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

Go big block. Thanks for watching!

Iam running a383 stroker Ina 82 monte 342 rear 400 turbo built fitech fuel injection its all torque bring on your store bought engine I making over 600rwh 575 torque

@TheOddRodGarage

2 ай бұрын

That's awesome that you forged your own pistons and cast your own block and heads. Wait....... did those come from a factory? Never mind. P.S. I love small block and big block Chevy engines..... but each have their advantages.

Gee, putting a big block in a compact truck...and there are fitment issues. NOT the fault of the headers or the big block. Put them both in a Suburban or Silverado....

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

We did put an LS into the Mazda but we also did an LS and a big block in two different 1965 C10's. That's a full size truck. I am just comparing those two builds. I know that when you put V8's into mini cars that it's always going tp be tight. We are going to put an LS into a 1959 Subaru 360 too. Thanks for watching!

@thereluctantgearhead4544

29 күн бұрын

I swapped a 454 into a 84 S-10 over 30yrs ago. They can fit if ya make em.

Step by step conversion info.!!!

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

I know "Dirty Dingo" sells mounts for both engine conversions. Look them up on the web. They are here in the Gilbert area. Thanks for watching!

Doing a turbo psi 8.8 liter which is based on the gen 7 8.1 in my suburban it better tow easier than my turbo 6.0 truck

Just to throw a screw ball will have to say at 50 years old now the bbf stroker 557 I have will kill any non power adder LS or non tall deck bbc. It dyno'd at 847 hp on e85 NA with dominator carb and is the factory block at 11.25:1 compression. Today the amount of cheap overseas parts for bbc has made it the best choice for king torque and hp compared to back in the day when aluminum heads were rare and thousands of dollars. If you comparison is just 454 vs 5.3LS then that is a no brainer. LS all have high flowing aluminum factory heads for cheap and GM only made aluminum winters bbc heads that were a fortune too but the "Rec" port bbc heads outflow any factory LS heads. I am a big block guy as can tell but my point is about how big can you stroke it? LS is severely limited and GM and Ford not so much. The other problem to me is if you upgrade your LS means back to the computer programming game and my engine runs strong on a carb I can change jets with a screwdriver and wrench for free. The old saying no replacement for displacement holds strong to this day.

The younger guys all about ls us older guys can't beat big block

I’m old school.

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

Me too! Thanks for watching!

I have a lt1 trans am I think I’m cool 😎

Gen IV’s are cheaper to build, No Computer Chips or Sensors, Can be built north of 500 HP with no boost or nitrous, sound BadAss, and look like an engine should! Less retrofitting, same engine mounts, I can keep going…

‘84 square body 1/2 ton 4x4 with a 454, 7 miles to the gallon!!!! Yikes!!! 😱 the most expensive $350.00 I’ve ever spent! It’s a late 70’s truck engine so it has no get up and go. It’s my wood/garbage truck and only sees 50 miles a month, but it’s an expensive 50 miles and I can watch the fuel gauge go down when I pass vehicles, But….. when the grid goes down or the Chinese bomb us with an EMP a points distributor and coil is all it takes to be back on the road!! 🤫 How did we get from hotrod motors to conspiracy theories? KZread Baby!! That’s how!

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

It's all connected. Thanks for watching!

What happened to the race?

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

Still brewing. Thanks for watching!

@infamousnova

Жыл бұрын

​@The Odd Rod Garage still waiting

Well if you are 400 pounds trying to fit a size 4 shoe on you are going to change that shoe. Why stuff a v8 in a lil car when you can twin turbo the 4cylinder and make 400+ hp

My 454 in a ‘72 C10 will not be outrun by an LS truck unless it is boosted! 600 lb ft

@ronnielewis1862

11 ай бұрын

Just think if you boost a big block, bye L's😅😅😅❤❤

@TheOddRodGarage

11 ай бұрын

Daily driver........ LS, Ultimate horsepower......... Big block! Thanks for watching!

Rat 454🔧💪

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

One of my favorites! Thanks for watching!

I have a 454 but changing to an LS. I want the MPG, dependability, no oil leaks and I’m tired of replacing starters.

@thereluctantgearhead4544

29 күн бұрын

Weak.....

@thereluctantgearhead4544

29 күн бұрын

Are you also transitioning? What are your pronouns? Haha!

@thereluctantgearhead4544

29 күн бұрын

I can't imagine cutting off my penis..... That must take alot of courage.

Sorry but the LS takes up as much room as a Big Block , LS headers don't fit worth a shit. I have a big inch aluminum big block twin turbo S10 it was easier to do then the 6.2 we are doing in son's 98 s10 . Sorry I will stay old school.

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

Love old skool. Thanks for watching!

Old people and broke people hate on LS engines

@TheOddRodGarage

Ай бұрын

Well I'm old and broke and I love them. I do more LS swaps than anything else. Thanks for watching!

@jerryrice2752

Ай бұрын

@@TheOddRodGarage you are special I guess

I don't even have to watch the video. LS is still a SMALL BLOCK. Less cubic inches. Big block = MORE POWER.

@TheOddRodGarage

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@Chevelle602

7 ай бұрын

Oh yeah? You think a 6.2L has less power than a 396 or 454 stock?

@Speakertweaker-tp4em

5 ай бұрын

@@Chevelle602 most definitely uncertain 454 and 396 years

@shootermcgavin2819

4 ай бұрын

​@@Chevelle602 stock form no. modified? Well you ask any professional drag racer..

@dylanfinch6186

4 ай бұрын

😂 If that were true, then everyone would be trying to find the 8.1L (496), instead of the 6L (364), but they are NOT. The big blocks have advantages, especially while towing, but for performance in a lighter vehicle, the 6L is a no Brainer. The LS small blocks Rev much higher.

No comparison big big Block will always make more power then an ls.

Big Block ... YES! LS .... YES!

LS vs Bigblock haha! Thats like saying Pee Wee Herman vs Mike Tyson......

Big block with 871 blower all day long. Pansies and cheap people like little LS engines with turdbos. You will never see a professional monster truck, top fuel, funny car will a LS engine. They all run big blocks for a reason.

@TheOddRodGarage

7 ай бұрын

It all depends on what your goal is. If you want a daily driven vehicle that has good power, decent fuel economy and Grandma can get in it and drive to the grocery store.... thats not a supercharged big block. Obviously cubic inch is king for horse power but not all of us can afford the fuel needed, the headaches associated with a blown vehicle or the sheer cost of a supercharged big block ride. I have a supercharged small block 55 chevy gasser wagon....... super fun...... super cool..... super inconvenient! Thanks for watching and commenting.

We took a perfect ls abd dragged it around with a. Chain because there ugly. .

Big blocks suck too much juice

I was on team bbc from 1993 to 2020. Sorry but LS Rules. 6.0 4l80e for the win

Every day driver l.s drag racing I'm a after market big block all day

@TheOddRodGarage

11 ай бұрын

Agreed! Thanks for watching!

Tuner for a 454....a nice $10 screwdriver 🪛