LPVO OR RED DOT? WHICH IS BEST FOR YOU?

The humble red dot vs the lpvo. Some pros and cons of what might work best for you and what I like to work with. This might help you decide on your next optic if your feeling a little lost in the sea of accessories.

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  • @ajax1137
    @ajax11376 ай бұрын

    20 years in the military and I was never issued anything with optics. I'm coming at this with a newb's experience and perspective. I appreciate that this video is geared towards people with less experience. For the same reasons outlined in the video, I went with the LPVO. The costs are coming down and the quality is solid.

  • @ksburner01
    @ksburner01 Жыл бұрын

    I got the V2 1-4. Very nice scope. Keeps zero after over 200 rounds down range and deadly accurate, not to mention very cost effective. Nice job folks. I'll be putting your stuff on more of my rifles.

  • @acrprotect4476
    @acrprotect4476 Жыл бұрын

    Good evening! This was a great video, and an awesome breakdown between the systems! Thank you, and take care!!!

  • @TacticonArmament

    @TacticonArmament

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @billspringer3099
    @billspringer30992 жыл бұрын

    I wish you guys would design and make a dual purpose scope with a reflex mounted on the top giving us the best of both worlds. I have seen some advertised from other companies but I would rather continue with Tacticon all my products are great and I love supporting an American Vet owned company. Keep up the great work. stay safe.

  • @nelsonm5032
    @nelsonm5032 Жыл бұрын

    i'm in agreement. i'm currently looking into LPVO's to replace a couple red dots. great video, cheers

  • @TacticonArmament

    @TacticonArmament

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Nelson!

  • @ksa5128
    @ksa51282 жыл бұрын

    going to be using the v2 at a 2 gun event Sunday so we'll see how it goes

  • @ksa5128

    @ksa5128

    2 жыл бұрын

    *Update* V2 was dead on at 25yds right out of the box. Used a 16 inch Ar loaded with 55gr 5.56 ammo. Extremely pleased with this product. Rock on 🤘

  • @BudgetBully504

    @BudgetBully504

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@ksa5128outstanding! 👏🏽 👏🏽

  • @Jjsaba2008
    @Jjsaba2008 Жыл бұрын

    I know need a video is posted a while ago little late to the party here, but every video I watched on the red dots vs Lpvo nobody has picked what they liked except you, totally appreciate your opinion

  • @joelramsay5072
    @joelramsay5072 Жыл бұрын

    Very good video, thank you.

  • @KingSteven-
    @KingSteven-11 ай бұрын

    good video, and thanks Nolan, for talking in my left ear

  • @ElectricLarry__
    @ElectricLarry__2 ай бұрын

    Wow, nice opening music 👍

  • @Dave-ck8cf
    @Dave-ck8cf Жыл бұрын

    Thanks 🙏 for great 👍 video.

  • @swiggamortis5521
    @swiggamortis552111 ай бұрын

    Great vid, just subbed.

  • @winkydinkandyou
    @winkydinkandyou Жыл бұрын

    I took a chance on a firefield lpvo for 150 bucks. It's on my pcp rifle and I am surprised how much I like it. I'm going to but in on my ar15 to see how it is. I like it a lot

  • @patrickshaw5849
    @patrickshaw58492 жыл бұрын

    Good perspective. Red dot user for a while now. I tried the magnifier route and didn’t like it and my rifle felt so heavy

  • @ricardoguzman7593
    @ricardoguzman75936 ай бұрын

    Great video, very informative. I’m used to carrying a Colt M4 with and Aimpoint M68. That being said, what is your opinion on the use of a Red Dot in conjunction with having 20/20 vision? I had a bias towards LVPO’s just because they looked top heavy. Once again you’ve given me a lot to think about. Thank you!

  • @erichense9348
    @erichense93486 ай бұрын

    I have the Apex Falcon 1x6 LPVO and my Brother-in-law Bought the 1x4. We both put them on 450 Bushmaster AR builds and unfortunately could not get them to hold Zero. I switched mine to a TM22, so hopefully that works.

  • @VB6000.
    @VB6000.2 жыл бұрын

    LPVO with the right etched reticle is my preference. You lose the weight advantage with a magnifier.

  • @bluetick71
    @bluetick712 жыл бұрын

    depends on the job of the weapon, close up like home defense red dot longer ranges or hunting lpvo

  • @TacticonArmament

    @TacticonArmament

    2 жыл бұрын

    True. A LPVO could be a bit more limited in a CQB scenario, I personally haven't had an issue with closer cardboard engagement scenarios. That being said I haven't had alot of low light indoors work with either. Both have their pros and cons!

  • @lewishanson7847
    @lewishanson78477 ай бұрын

    Just seen this video I really enjoyed it I have red dots because the other scopes are out my price range and I have a stigmatism and I’m still trying to figure out what will really be good for me that is in my price range

  • @ope.-817

    @ope.-817

    7 ай бұрын

    Holographics are better for people with astigmatism, and so are prism optics from what I have learned so far.

  • @JaffoStudios
    @JaffoStudios6 ай бұрын

    Would be cool to add a note about prism and micro prism scopes. Etched glass and all. Have a PA micro prism on my 10.3 inch build with a 3x magnifier behind it. For a full 16in though - LPVO because linger range options.

  • @RJ-TRB19
    @RJ-TRB192 жыл бұрын

    I'm hoping for a 1 - 8 or 1 - 10 FFP night vision compatible that can compete with Primary Arms.

  • @CBDsutty
    @CBDsutty6 ай бұрын

    Woooow. Less larping, cursing, and trolling back then! Show this to the Fuds! Lol good shot man. I go red dot but I secretly want a LPvO!😢

  • @alpha-omegaJesus
    @alpha-omegaJesus2 жыл бұрын

    What is the eye relief on the lpvo

  • @seanbates7683
    @seanbates7683 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Good topic

  • @charlesludwig9173
    @charlesludwig9173 Жыл бұрын

    What’s best is a reticle that first supports the shooter’s understanding for where the barrel is pointed, some shooting needs that understanding to come quickly. At this point in time the concept that best serves that function at any distance and size target is the TA-31F ACOG and it also serves a ranging and bullet drop compensation function. If cost is a factor just get a 4 power Leupold with firedot reticle. Creds: Military Rifle Instructor assisting the USAMU deliver SDM, TTT, and SAFS Training. Now, specifically the so called LPVOs have one infuriating problem. They are marketed to novice shooters and thus have reticle designs which the novice shooter believes to be important, like tic marks for wind holds, bullet drop compensation, and ranging, usually in mil scale. This clutter distracts and in ffp design scope is only useful at high magnification where the shooter will be fighting wobble and mirage. Thing is the novice shooter does not understand how truly bad some of these reticle designs are at preventing the desired results, which can be easily achieved from a simple MOA scaled reticle.

  • @redharlaw2782
    @redharlaw27822 жыл бұрын

    Aaand I’m going with the red dot.

  • @TacticonArmament

    @TacticonArmament

    2 жыл бұрын

    Rock on brother!

  • @HenryStory-jc7or
    @HenryStory-jc7or3 ай бұрын

    ARKEN 1-8x28 FFP LPVO 34MM TUBE WITH THE KLBOX RETICLE it's a really good scope for the money that's what I use on my AR-15 it's core tac 3

  • @ridnthawave708
    @ridnthawave7082 жыл бұрын

    Good info! Nice and short and to the point. I am making the switch over from a red dot, to a LPVO. Question for you. When zeroing the LPVO, I am a little confused. I will be getting a second focal plane. Do you zero on the highest magnification or at the lowest? I have heard that you set it to the higher magnification but, is that for if you use your BDC? If you're not using a BDC, and simply just using your crosshairs, would zeroing at the lowest mag (1x) be good throughout the mag range? Thanks.

  • @TacticonArmament

    @TacticonArmament

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man! So I have always heard and practiced myself zeroing on a SFP optic at max magnification, due to the fact the reticle stays the same, to have the proper hold overs at distance you need to zero at the max setting. That is at least what i have practiced and heard. Hope that helps!

  • @manuelcabeza6922

    @manuelcabeza6922

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hello Guys !!! I just got the Vortex strike eagle 1-8 SFP ... Zero @ Max Magnification ... I did zero at 50 yards, it has the the tightest group spread to to about 275 Yards opposed to a 36yard Zero ... which I've ran before .. also when you are at whatever magnification with the LPVO ... The Red Dot on the LPVO Should be True to Point of Aim To Point Of Impact for the most part out to those distances to 275 and then use your BDC and play around with it

  • @ridnthawave708

    @ridnthawave708

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@manuelcabeza6922 Hey! Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the information. Yeah, all I hear is to set your lpvo to higher mag when zeroing, but, I thought that was only for when you're using the Subtensions .On a 1-4, shooting 556 or.223, keeping under 200 yards or so, there's not much hold over.

  • @michaelgunter8193
    @michaelgunter81932 жыл бұрын

    What kind of rail is that on ur ak?

  • @Mattfooey
    @Mattfooey9 ай бұрын

    Is that a Ca legal muzzle device on the AR?

  • @highspeed9518
    @highspeed95183 ай бұрын

    More and more lvpo's are coming out with a red dot center reticle like the vortex razor jm, thats the best of both worlds, bushnell has their trophy lvpo that has a .5 moa dot, for under $300 its the most underrated scope out there

  • @GiacomoCalabrese
    @GiacomoCalabrese2 ай бұрын

    I use both. Instead of back up iron sights I use a predator V4 mounted near the muzzle on a 45 degree mount. The weight of a reflex today is practically nothing. The cost is about the same as good iron sights. After having my optic mount slip off during a meet I decided I needed a back up sight option. Why not both today is the question?

  • @Rags2richs77
    @Rags2richs772 жыл бұрын

    What model LPVO and red dot magnifier combo were you running on those rifles, and my second question is will a LPVO run well on a AR pistol with a 7.5 barrel.

  • @ksa5128

    @ksa5128

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sure it will. Its the v2 Lpvo and v3 redot

  • @TacticonArmament

    @TacticonArmament

    2 жыл бұрын

    KSA512 nailed it. It's the predator v3 red dot with our falcon v1 and the falcon v2 1x4 lpvo

  • @Hdic2018
    @Hdic201811 ай бұрын

    Great video. Can you use LPVO x1 with both eyes open like a red dot?

  • @TacticonArmament

    @TacticonArmament

    11 ай бұрын

    100%

  • @dilorenzopiero5162
    @dilorenzopiero5162 Жыл бұрын

    👍👍👍👍👍

  • @noelchang5476
    @noelchang54763 ай бұрын

    What lpvo was he running in the vid?

  • @TheAtarashiiKaze
    @TheAtarashiiKaze2 жыл бұрын

    I noticed the red dot (battery) is on the same rifle as your night vision illuminator(battery). Batteries == batteries or just how it happened to be setup during this filming?

  • @TacticonArmament

    @TacticonArmament

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry I don't understand the question.

  • @907schoolietech8
    @907schoolietech82 жыл бұрын

    Where can I get the sticker that was on the AK? I’m asking for a friend 😬

  • @TacticonArmament

    @TacticonArmament

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's a secret

  • @felts8031
    @felts80312 жыл бұрын

    How does that LPVO work on rifles with traditional front sight posts instead of the hide away ones? Does it have a riser to raise it up for mounting?

  • @TacticonArmament

    @TacticonArmament

    2 жыл бұрын

    So with a standard fixed front it will be a bit harder. you can get some risers to raise the height of the optic. Although I personally haven't worked a LPVO on a fixed front sight rifle, so I couldn't give you accurate data on how well it works or doesn't. If I can remember, I'll slap one on a upper with a fixed front sight and get back to this comment and let you know!

  • @felts8031

    @felts8031

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TacticonArmament much appreciated!

  • @therising1

    @therising1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TacticonArmament I'd like to know this as well. Considering something like a Delton Sport Mod 2 with the falcon V2.

  • @AJN1988
    @AJN19882 жыл бұрын

    😆 Anybody else catch the sticker on the stock of the first rifle?

  • @TacticonArmament

    @TacticonArmament

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have no idea what you're talking about ;)

  • @acdvr122

    @acdvr122

    2 жыл бұрын

    We just became best friends. I’m gunna buy the V2 just because of that sticker!😂

  • @texassportsman5880
    @texassportsman58802 жыл бұрын

    LPVO

  • @texican8441
    @texican84412 жыл бұрын

    First! LPVO for me. Yeah, keep Nolan around too.

  • @TacticonArmament

    @TacticonArmament

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks brother!

  • @user-hi6uh8sb3m
    @user-hi6uh8sb3m Жыл бұрын

    Is that LPVO the “falcon” or the “apex falcon”?

  • @TacticonArmament

    @TacticonArmament

    Жыл бұрын

    you're probably gandering at the Apex Falcon V2 1-4x24 SFP

  • @user-hi6uh8sb3m

    @user-hi6uh8sb3m

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TacticonArmament thank you sir I appreciate the reply!

  • @jammbbs1688
    @jammbbs1688 Жыл бұрын

    I want the 1-6 ffp so I can test it against my monstrum 1-6 ffp

  • @TacticonArmament

    @TacticonArmament

    Жыл бұрын

    Get one!

  • @jammbbs1688

    @jammbbs1688

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TacticonArmament currently fighting for disability for 3 years and I'm a single father of 2 little ones I ain't got no money lately

  • @Chris-im4rd
    @Chris-im4rd2 жыл бұрын

    Hey tacticon. Why do ya'll alter reviews on your website?

  • @alphaq6585

    @alphaq6585

    Жыл бұрын

    Care to explain?

  • @giffordsamuelson2163

    @giffordsamuelson2163

    11 ай бұрын

    Um, I give them great reviews. They’re not making them up

  • @rdavid3848
    @rdavid3848 Жыл бұрын

    Now. That being said. I digress. In fact you did not digress. Call me crazy. Ok. Crazy.

  • @BrwnShinobi
    @BrwnShinobi Жыл бұрын

    cool sticker... lol

  • @BasedAFPatriot
    @BasedAFPatriot10 ай бұрын

    Will you make a rainbow 🌈 dot for my AK? Asking for a "friend" 😂.

  • @PoliticallyInsensitive
    @PoliticallyInsensitive6 ай бұрын

    Fixed mag prism. FTW

  • @mr.blasso6506
    @mr.blasso65062 жыл бұрын

    spelled "efficient" wrong

  • @TacticonArmament

    @TacticonArmament

    2 жыл бұрын

    whoopsies

  • @TacticonArmament

    @TacticonArmament

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's because it's more time efishent to skip the spellcheck process

  • @demetregarderis3696

    @demetregarderis3696

    Жыл бұрын

    Nobody cares

  • @oaklavegas8779
    @oaklavegas87792 жыл бұрын

    Q: Which one do you get??? A: Bofe ‘em

  • @TacticonArmament

    @TacticonArmament

    2 жыл бұрын

    damn straight

  • @oaklavegas8779

    @oaklavegas8779

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TacticonArmament I’ve got 2x or your reflex, 1 Predator, and the LPVO! My question for you is.. When does this “APEX” come out!?

  • @texasviking1
    @texasviking1 Жыл бұрын

    I love red dots👍🏻

  • @TacticonArmament

    @TacticonArmament

    Жыл бұрын

    we do too brethren!

  • @gunsammodrones
    @gunsammodrones2 жыл бұрын

    Magnification not Magnifaction

  • @Innawoods7614
    @Innawoods7614 Жыл бұрын

    Why is Joel Osteen talking about guns now? I'm excited, but still. Lol

  • @gunsammodrones
    @gunsammodrones2 жыл бұрын

    Efficient not Efficiant

  • @grizstockman8002
    @grizstockman8002 Жыл бұрын

    ....do you really?

  • @EvikeMVo

    @EvikeMVo

    Жыл бұрын

    To make contract and verbal joinder to destroy, harvest, steal. The US Corporation ended its 3rd and ultimate, final 70th bankruptcy in 1999 and ceased to exist. They ran to the USSC, a foreign vessel in dry dock, fiction court with a fiction flag where no truth or law may be tried and very criminally and fraudulently went full rogue, they merely issue opinions and are not the vison of Justice John Marshal as should be due to the CRIMINALS that quietly have been running the show the whole time. The Crown Corps, the bondage debt slavery of the Central Banking mafia. There is an ENTIRELY different World of Law and activity hidden from our eyes that perfectly parallels the stories they tell us in the Marxist Mockingbird. Feudal overlords you do not even want to investigate about, much less think is real at all - actually do exist. The Committee of 300. All the Joe and Barry FBl and CIA who've flooded onto social medias, the military grade Al Psy Ops on us so the selfish greedy "sovereign" oligarchs, royals, Vatican, banksters can do whatever they want with all of the Systems; did the Elites who rule the World don't give the slightest rip about the well-being of the vast majority of the entire population of Society, "commoners', you are a cowardly bunch of fools and traitors who, like them, have inverted the highest of Law... Trust Law, and think very dishonorably and criminally that YOU are the beneficiary and WE are the Trustee... NOPE, it comes from the Bible, and it has been inverted. Hiding behind a fake badge, title, uniform, robe, piece of paper in a filing cabinet committing imprisonable and executable crimes, in a state of war against We The People around the world for that lot of Pedavoric, Infantcidal, Genocidal, Pernicious, Rapacious Foul Minded Sub-Species of Parasitical Worms in Mankinds Anus. Hiding behind fictional foreign immunities that are not one meaning per sentence, incorrectness. The US Corps lost authorization to perform as a corporation. You protect and serve these abominable animals who will turn on you with Al and robots in a heartbeat. Each of them a useful idiot in our turns.

  • @gunsammodrones
    @gunsammodrones2 жыл бұрын

    Thick not Thicc

  • @khann844
    @khann844 Жыл бұрын

    I'll guarantee you he doesn't run either of those optics.

  • @TacticonArmament

    @TacticonArmament

    Жыл бұрын

    After extreme testing and evaluation.... we have found your statement to be incorrect.

  • @xray5043
    @xray5043Ай бұрын

    Wtf is a meter 😞

  • @user-bs2fv4ne8v
    @user-bs2fv4ne8v4 ай бұрын

    This video is absolutely a disgrace because anybody who knows me knows I'm everybody's favorite little brother because one I am the youngest and two I am literally everybody's favorite