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"We buy our wiskey by the fifth" 😂 Merica!🦅

@mikefoor5162

3 жыл бұрын

What's wrong with that? I like mine in any size I can get. It's like the difference between Fords and Chevy it mostly just gives people a reason to argue which is best!

@sog4646

2 жыл бұрын

And sometimes it comes in a quart jar. Merica.

@SuperP37

2 жыл бұрын

F the metric system. It’s for people who voluntarily wore masks. Besides why would we want the commies to be able to use our stuff. I love that the world says we have to do the metric system and we pretty much only adopted it for bullets.

@Last_Chance.

2 жыл бұрын

Half a gallon

@derekgargan5080

Жыл бұрын

By the bottle, it's easier.

Over 24 years in the US Army Infantry and no one has ever explained this better. Well done!

Joe, you have a knack for putting the hay down where the horses can eat it. Excellent, as always. Thanks for being here.

This is a topic that confuses even experienced shooters. Good explanation Joe. Quirky fact of the UK. We went metric in 1971, our speed limits are still in mph.

@CyclopsJoeVideos

3 жыл бұрын

Lol, I didn’t know that

@markkulyas2418

2 жыл бұрын

And your still driving your cars on the wrong side of the road.

@chris_ackroyd

2 жыл бұрын

@@markkulyas2418 ...and our beer is in pints (but 20 fl.oz ones btw) 😳

@bbutc

2 жыл бұрын

We now buy our fuel in liters, but if you want to know how efficiently your car is burning that fuel it will be in MPG [ miles per gallon ] ... it's a crazy world.

@petemelanyevans9162

2 жыл бұрын

@@bbutc Its a sneaky way to sell it . Makes it look cheaper .

I’m a new shooter in general and this video was really helpful. A lot of the other channels out there are breaking out the complicated mathematical equations that frankly is overwhelming for a beginner. This was straight to the point and fun.

@CyclopsJoeVideos

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for that

Valuable information and easy to understand. New and seasoned shooters can easily use it as a refresher class. Thank you.

I watched your old video on this. But this new one is much more informative. You actually answered a couple questions in this video that I could not figure out. Which was very frustrating. So thank you so very much for the updated version.

THANK YOU! This is the video I needed. Found my ideal scope but it's in MIL so needed to learn fast!

I gotta tell you man - I have the utmost respect for people who have a physical impediment (like missing an eye) and bring levity into it by joking about it. Good on you man. That’s what drew me in. The information you provide is great as well. You’ve got another sub.

I'm taking precision machining right now and the math involved in it has helped me understand this video immensely.

You the man buddy. Another video that is sure to help a lot of people. Have a good one! Stoti

Just stumbled across your channel, thanks for making this so less complicated for us noobs, I’m enrolled in a basic level-1 distance course coming up and this was extremely helpful!!

Your video gets right to the important information. All signal, no noise. I learned more in a few minutes of watching your video than another long one. Thank you for your clear explanations! I'm too dang old to waste my time watching without learning anything.

Thank you for the video man. I'm a UK guy living in Canada just getting into target shooting. I'm much more comfortable with metric, but most videos I've seen explaining MIL still talk about it converted to inches. Hearing you talk about it in metric terms really sold me that i should get a MIL scope. 10cm at 100m is so easy to remember for me. Safe shooting man.

@caerleon87

8 ай бұрын

MRAD makes things very easy. I naturally think in imperial, but MRADS make it so easy. Say you rifle is zeroed at 100 metres.. So you want to hit your target eh? First thing, how far is it?? Say it is a rabbit and it stands 6" high. That is 150mm How many mildots does it cover in your scope?? Say 1. Well, 150 metres/1 mildot = 150. The rabbit is 150 metres away... Now, say for the sake of argument, that you know that at 150 metres your bullet drops 1 1/2" MORE than it does at your zeroed range of 100 metres. Well, that is more or less 40mm. So 40mm/150 metres = 0.277 MRAD, that is your hold over..

Hey so a few things to point out that are often missed in explaining the difference in MOA vs MIL. As you correctly stated, both are angular based measurements. MOA being defined as 1/60th of a degree. MILs are defined as an arc length 1/1000th the radius. This is an important definition because it is directly proportional to target size (arc length) and distance (radius) making it a more useful definition than MOA. Additionally MILs are not a metric unit, they just correlate to metric well because of the base 10 nature. With MILs, one MIL is 1m at 1000m, 1y at 1000y, 1in at 1000in, the unit doesn’t matter. The very definition of MILs is based on target size to distance proportion as opposed to being defined by an angle in MOA making MILs a more useful definition. Also for those who make the case for MOA due to familiarity with inches, 1/10th MIL, a typical click value is also essentially equivalent to 1/3 MOA making it just as easy to use when thinking in inches, 3 clicks per inch at 100y.

@CyclopsJoeVideos

3 жыл бұрын

Great Post . Man thanks for the added info

@charlesludwig9173

2 жыл бұрын

MOA is defined by the USAMU as a unit of measurement which describes the distance in inches a sight adjustment will make at target distance. The concept is so simple to apply yet Soldiers and even trainers are prone to not understand and thus basic marksmanship instruction is conducted using the NSN 6920-01-395-1949 target which uses a printed grid to indicate sight adjustment need without need for MOA formula. Interestingly enough Soldiers seem to easily grasp MOA wind constant formula and apply it for excellent results from irons or ACOG.

@brucelowell7506

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone has an opinion

@sethrich5998

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlesludwig9173 “MOA” is literally a mathematical proof. It literally means 1/60th of a degree…. Minute (1/60th) of Angle (degree). What you stated is how the Army tries to explain that concept to people who don’t understand math.

@charlesludwig9173

2 жыл бұрын

@@sethrich5998 yeah, I am a Military Rifle Instructor assisting the USAMU deliver SDM, TTT, and SAFS. The training guides and visual aids for these programs are proven to teach an understanding of MOA, as well as apply the knowledge to sight adjustment. In other words the instruction gets Soldiers an understanding of equations needed to properly adjust sight, hold or favor at target distance/conditions.BTW the instruction emphasizes mils in context to ranging and MOA in context to sight movement, holds, and favors, since the instruction is all about Marksmanship using an as issued M16-A4, or M4.

THANK YOU !! This is another WELL DELIVERED MESSAGE. Like all your videos, your message is - to the point without being boring. Keep Up The Great Job That You Are Doing For The Benefit Of All Shooters. Once Again - Thank You.

I am from UK and I was brought up with feet and inches and still use it as my preferred measurement.

I am new to scopes, and struggled to convert my 100yd per click to my 25 and 50 meter airgun range. This helped a lot. Thanks

Fantastic. Any videos on scopes, ranging, mils etc I truly appreciate. Anything on ballistic coefficient with some tips would be awesome too! Thanks Joe

5 minutes of knowledge dropped on us! Love it!!!

Thanks for the clear concise explanations, Joe.

Thanks Joe that did help alot!! Been shooting a long time and never really understood ,but that cleared that up nicely !! Thank you!!!!

I was raised shooting the MOA system and then the US Army taught me MILS. Once you learn the simple mathematical formula it’s a snap. I now just use the PA caliber specific scopes and man it’s a breeze. No more math, etc, just range hold squeeze. Perfect for a feeble minded old fart like me.

@charlesludwig9173

2 жыл бұрын

What was the context of training to understand mils?

@Deathbomb9

2 жыл бұрын

My learning of mils was more navigational and targeting from vehicles during overwatch. MOA was still the standard teaching with small arms because it's a smaller adjustment. Mils was something I had a chart for haha. One of those little spinners cheat charts even. I was taught eyeball ranging and powered mag ranging with MOA. Being on the Abrams, our GAS ranging gauge was set up to range a Soviet tank quickly. You could apply it to anything if you knew a standard height of said object or a part of that object. I've messed with mils post military service, but I personally find MOA easier to be able to apply it to different platforms and calibers.

@Deathbomb9

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlesludwig9173 generally the same sort you would go through for MOA if you had zero training and understanding prior. It's a little friendlier if you know metric measurements of objects, but you can still apply it to the inch standard if you know the conversations and how to add that into the equation.

Learn from the best, this man knows his stuff

I haven’t see liqueur sold in 1/5 of a gallon in years. They sell it in 750ml bottles (slightly smaller) and , most dropped the alcohol content from 86 proof to 80.6 proof. Each hoping the buyer wouldn’t notice the changes. With that came price increases as wall. Good info on scope confusion as well.

Mans just explained 3 different ways of shooting in 6 minutes that a lot of other guys take a full half hour to get through. Props to pops 👑

@CyclopsJoeVideos

2 жыл бұрын

Thank You

This is very relevant to me. I'm moving from NJ to PA and I'm excited to get my first gun but there's a lot I don't know yet, including how scopes work. Thank you for the good information, I'll be looking through the rest of your videos and learning as much as I can.

@CyclopsJoeVideos

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dan

@dmo848

2 жыл бұрын

Screw Jersey. U can't do anything without the cops being called on you. So much better once I left. I'm in Florida and I now can open my back door and sit on the deck n shoot. No one cares cause they do it also. Same with riding ATVs around. What's the issue. I jus don't get people at times. I'm sure u get what I'm saying

The best explanation I have ever sene through the internet. Especially to understand the earth is bigger that the USA and explaining in mils also Perfect. 👍🏻✌️

The greatest and easiest breakdown of MOA vs. MIL ever 🙌🏽

@CyclopsJoeVideos

Ай бұрын

Thank you

Fantastic as always!!! You really know how to make points, that it takes others to do in an hour video, lol!!! Thank you again for another great video!!!

@CyclopsJoeVideos

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ken

Great vid, always a great knowledge boost! Thanks so much.

@CyclopsJoeVideos

2 жыл бұрын

You are more than welcome

Thanks, Joe! Love your videos!!

Thank you for the information! I appreciate it!

Thanks for an easy to understand presentation... and always with a bit of humor.

Great video, thank you for the explanation and the great graphics. Keep up the great training videos.

@CyclopsJoeVideos

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Great information thanks Joe your the best my friend

My first scope I bought for myself was Mill rad because you're already making me do math to shoot something I'm not doing math twice.

Solid info Mr.Joe, Thank you sir.

After watching this 2 times and playing with a mrad scope I think I got it. After research of the R.A.W. PCPs I ordered a RAW HM 1000x chassis in .22 cal this morning about 3am. I'll be kicking some ass with that bad rascle when it hopefully gets delivered by the end of the month. Thanks again Joe, your the best.

@CyclopsJoeVideos

3 жыл бұрын

You rock Buddy

I have a leupold mark 4 mildot scope with moa turrets. I knew going into it that I'd have to deal with the conversion. I seen it at a local gun shop and used that as a bargaining strategy, I walked out with that scope for $750. I was more concerned about having good glass, I am good with the math so the challenge is actually ok.

You have som OF THE BEST video's on KZread.!! KEEP EM COMING PLEASE.

@CyclopsJoeVideos

3 жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks for that !

In Australia we use both MOA and MRAD. It usually comes down to the individuals preference.

I use moa b/c one click on the turret moves the reticle less distance It' s finer adjustment.

Getting ready to purchase a scope and with your explanation, I do have a better understanding to what I want.. And yes inches ,feet, yards, gallon etc for me also LOL Great job brother...

The funny part is that under the wood, inch and co now it's based on metrics system (not a joke >> Standards for the exact length of an inch have varied in the past, but since the adoption of the international yard during the 1950s and 1960s it has been based on the metric system and defined as exactly 25.4 mm.). Good video as usual ;)

New to long range shooting.., stumbled across your channel trying to educate myself on MOA. You just gained a subscriber!

@CyclopsJoeVideos

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Great explanation. Good work !!

This is a true, easy video.... great explaining how each works. This is where math can make your shooting easier and better. I know imperial measurements are the norm here but metric is sure easier to figure out! Thanks for posting this video and explaining each!

That was a succinct and easy to understand explanation. Thank you for this and thank you for not taking half an hour to explain it.

@CyclopsJoeVideos

14 күн бұрын

You're very welcome!

Absolutely loved you're video on the GPO scope !😎👍🇺🇸

@CyclopsJoeVideos

2 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

Thank you for taking the time to educate me and thousands of others. Great video. Milradian is what I buy my scopes in.

@CyclopsJoeVideos

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Dude your videos are awesome I just wanted to say thanks cause of you I've made the purchase for my rifles even my air rifles just wanted to say thanks from one of your biggest fans

@CyclopsJoeVideos

2 жыл бұрын

Wow , thanks for that

LOL!!!! I enjoyed this video... good points (and great way of making them) and straight to the point. I'm using this to help tutor my daughter as I'm NOT the best teacher in the world (read: zero patience). Thanks a bunch.

Always good to refresh the brain and watch the video a few times and comments help.

Thanks for sharing this video! Very informative and interesting!

@CyclopsJoeVideos

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Man

Thanks for this video.🎉👍

Nice Video! Thx for your work, i like it 👍 Best greetings from Germany

Your video is a lot better for me to understand!

This video was exactly what I needed for explanation how my new lpvo reticle works! Vortex Does a poor job on their manual, but you did A+

I love it Yards, Feet, & inches. 30 yrs retired & I'm not going to change now. & enjoyey your videos. Cheers Tippo.UK.GB.

A guy recently tried to convince me that i would miss my target/critter by 27" at 768 yards because i use MOA and dont factor the 0.047". That was a fun discussion. MOA is pretty damn easy being its 1inch(1.047) per 100 yards. Miss low by 4 inches at 400 yards? Dial up 1 moa. In mils, thats like .2 and 5/8 of a half liter or something. Ridiculous. Great video!

@CJ-ty8sv

2 жыл бұрын

off by 27" because of the .047" how the hell was he coming up with that quite specific number? I've been racking my brain for the several minutes now trying to figure out how he was arriving at that number. I mean, no matter how I try to incorrectly work the numbers, I cant come up with anything even close to the resulting 27" Also, if you know MOA, switching to MIL is actually pretty easy since 1MOA is basically 0.3MIL (well its really 0.29 but since MIL scopes are in 0.1MIL increments, its easy just to round up to .3 and the rounding error really doesn't become even remotely problematic until you are having to make 5+ MOA adjustments and even then, its not really much of an error). Basically, if you say know that you need to come up 2.5MOA, then just multiply that by 3 and move the decimal one place to the left and you have the MIL amount move (e.g., 2.5 * 3 = 7.5 so it would be 0.75 MIL but since you can only dial in 0.1 increments, you can go either 0.7 or 0.8 and be on pretty much spot on). As you can see, the error is small because if you use the more accurate 0.29 value, the result is 2.5 * 2.9 = 7.25 and them shift the decimal back one place and the value is 0.725MIL so. To give you another example, lets say that you need to come up 10" at 800yrs, you know that 1.25 MOA, so since its .3 to one, easy math is 1.25 * 3 = 3.75, shift the decimal back and you have 0.375 MIL so dial 0.4 and the difference is about 1.5" high error due do rounding and the fact that you can only dial in 0.1MIL increments. If you only dialed say 0.3 (i.e., round down), then you'll about 1.5" low. Which isn't really bad unless you are handloading and have developed a load that shoots with single digit ES's since a 10 FPS speed difference at 800yrds is easily worth 1.5" even with a relatively high B.C. projectile. What I always say though to anyone if they ask what kind of scope to get is get which ever you want but my advise is to get something that has a matching scaled reticle and preferably that is FFP... That way you don't have to worry about any of that because your reticle will tell you everything you need to know (assuming that you are not off outside of the FOV of your at the time.. In which case, if you are then you're SOL either way and you did something seriously wrong and possibly shouldn't be shooting a rifle anyways).

@charlesludwig9173

2 жыл бұрын

@@CJ-ty8sv That .047 is less than a half inch of bullet displacement at 1000 yards so let’s say the bullet strike is 40 inches off point of aim, then, .47 times 4 equals less than 2 inches of bullet displacement which might be worth backing off a quarter minute click but probably not since there’s no shooter on the planet that could hold a quarter minute at 1000 yards. At any rate, notions about what’s important to hitting targets at long range vary but I’ll put all my money on what the USAMU long range shooters have to say about it, not KZread gurus.

@CJ-ty8sv

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlesludwig9173 Not sure you what part of my comment you are replying to because nowhere did I say or imply that that .047 was really a big deal. Can you please point me (quote me) the portion where you got the impression that I was saying or implying that it was a big deal? as for no one on the planet hold a 1/4 minute, that depends on the definition of "holding 1/4 minute". There are probably many people that can "hold" 1/4 minute but no on who can accurately determine all the variables necessary to achieve groups of 1/4 MOA at that distance but they are getting close since the current world record 1k yard 10 shot group is at 2.6566" (or .253 MOA

@charlesludwig9173

2 жыл бұрын

@@CJ-ty8sv I am implying that your impression is also mine, .047 is as moot as it is meaningless in context to it being important to hitting where aimed at long-range. My example proves it for any who have a notion that the fraction has any meaning. Creds: CMP-USAMU cert. Military Rifle Instructor assisting USAMU deliver SDM, TTT, and SAFS training, US Distinguished Rifleman. and NRA High Master Long-Range Competitor. BTW I can hold under a half minute from irons at 100 yards but at 1000 yards from irons in prone sling supported position I can barely hold 2 MOA in prevailing wind shooting my match conditioned .223 AR in Service Rifle Dividion. Hold is the correct term since error is mostly about me not being able to see the target well enough to get an exactingly consistent sight picture from picture memory.

@CJ-ty8sv

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlesludwig9173 Ah ok gotcha. Sorry then for my misunderstanding of your comment. Yeah, that whole .047" error thing always boggles my why some people think that it's a big deal or a concern. Its almost like some have this notion of people shooting bughole groups at distance or are trying to shoot a dime (or any coin for that matter) at a thousand or something. I mean, yeah sure if we were shooting actual lasers where the only think of concern is refraction but yeah, that's not the case here.

Cheers for the information, as a newbie i was looking for exactly that definition of terms. BTW, few people really hate the US, most of them would change their mind if they would visit you guys.

Explained perfectly, thanks

Great video. Thank you for sharing your video.

Damm good information and schooling very understanding Thanks JOE 🎯

This guy explained it better than my trigonometry teacher. Thanks for the video.

I love this channel. Good info and Joe always makes me laugh.

@CyclopsJoeVideos

3 ай бұрын

Thank you

Nice explanation... this is what I am looking for thanks

Thanks man!!!

Thank you! 🤗

Hi Joe. It is a great relief -for a European- to hear from an American that the imperial system sucks. We get mad from your inches, feet, yards, land miles and nautical miles. Thanks to Napoleon we have got the metric system and it is the best. I saw your channel for the first time and wil subscribe to you.

@CyclopsJoeVideos

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man , Americans are just hard headed is all lol

@MlTGLIED

3 жыл бұрын

But some tools, tv screen size, pipes, car rims size and so on are still in inches here in Germany.

@tikkafoxer

3 жыл бұрын

@@MlTGLIED Stimmt, dass sind noch Dingen wohmit ich Leben kann aber de rest :-(((

Thx.for the explanations .

Thanks for explaining about moa and mill dot Jo I'm seventy years old and I still shoot air rifles I'm still old school

Always great knowledge. Thank you

@CyclopsJoeVideos

9 ай бұрын

You bet!

Thank you for this clear definition. I shall point our Club Members towards your explanation. A small correction: we do not "Hate the U,S.A." Here in the U.K. we positively embrace you all. That's why forward thinking "Limeys" still use yards. Compliments of the Season to you'll.

Like always easy to understand! God bless you and God bless Texas!

@CyclopsJoeVideos

2 жыл бұрын

Thank You

I watch your videos like people watch there favorite show. SOME ONE GIVE THUS MAN HIS OWN SHOW

Goddam Joe 👍 , I didn’t realise I’m following a supreme mathematician 😃 . I’m stoked ! Seriously tho my great friend, you really do know your shit 💪. As for counting in ‘ old money ‘ I’m with you on that buddy . I’m a Welshman that was brought up on stuff that made sense , like , feet and inches. Keep the metric bollox to those that want it , simples ! Rant over Joe 😃 . Stay safe, be well buddy . Dave UK 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Very great explanation! Thanks

Awesome video. Thank you.

The information you provide is great. You’ve got another sub. respect for joking about Cyclops.

@CyclopsJoeVideos

Жыл бұрын

Thank You for that

Great explanation Joe 😊, I still use MOA at the moment but am thinking about switching to MRAD on my next optic 🤔

@CyclopsJoeVideos

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah , I honestly don't have a preference. The reticle makes more difference to me . I don't like the Super cluttered reticles like the Horus

Good refresher, well done.👍

@CyclopsJoeVideos

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 👍

Great video, thanks!

I do appreciate you video, it does explain it well. I spent a day or two in the military, as a Forward Overserved. We delt almost excusably with Mills, 6400 mills to a circle. But I am an American, NOT a Eruopean. We deal in Inches, Feet, Yards and Miles.

Thank you for the contents

That was well explained. Great video. 👍

@CyclopsJoeVideos

3 ай бұрын

Thanks! 👍

Great video and well explained.

clear as water :-) thanks, very good video, well explained, clear voice, straight to the point 👍

@CyclopsJoeVideos

Жыл бұрын

Thank You

As usual great video cyclops

@CyclopsJoeVideos

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@Dinos4X4

Жыл бұрын

@@CyclopsJoeVideos I was trying to deside between the delta javelin and the meopta optika6 5-30 56mm Pretty sure I'm going to get the delta after your review

Thank you thank you. Great video

@CyclopsJoeVideos

2 жыл бұрын

You’re more than welcome

Nice video. very informative. love from Canada. 🇨🇦

I'm Australian and learnt both so I'm good thanks. Still a bit dodgy with chains, phathoms and other less used measurement.Good vid thanks.

Very helpful. Thank you

Thank you!

I am one of those hard-headed individuals, and I have no problem with it. Very good video. Thank you.

@CyclopsJoeVideos

Ай бұрын

Excellent!

As a (proud) immigrant to the US this ... thing blows my mind.🤯 Not only do I have all the conversion problems but I also second guess myself if my new MIL Leupold matches a hypothetical MOA setting ...😅

UK shooter and I still use MOA in 1/8 th, I find it far easier than MIL, great video by the way, let the rest of the world have their metric measurements, I've never needed them. 👍

The metric system is easy, but I prefer to use imperial. I'm southern enough said.