Loyalists Tell Turkish Journalist Why They Voted For Brexit!
A Turkish journalist visited Belfast to get a better understanding of the divisions there, but in a Loyalist pub he asked two patrons why the voted for Brexit...
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Loyalists - that uncle that you try to not invite to family events because they are an embarrassing pain in the ass.
@joeavreg2254
10 ай бұрын
You have an uncle that kills people because of their last name while the cops help them cover it up and they are fed information on civil rights leaders by the state?
@faithlesshound5621
10 ай бұрын
They were a useful extra 20 or so votes for the Tories to keep in a back pocket, until their shenanigans during the Leave negotiations taught Theresa May and Boris Johnson that Ulster Unionists were nothing but a liability.
@occamraiser
10 ай бұрын
The clue is in the name. Presumably you simply aren't in favour of what they profess to.
@John_Lyle
10 ай бұрын
So what is it that loyalists are loyal to? They certainly don't respect the laws and ordinances of the British crown and government, as shown by their refusal to engage in the Stormont Parliament under a democratically elected leadership.
@Anri6547
10 ай бұрын
Are loyalists not these lunatics who burn every year a big wood pile with Irish flags and they sing and dance with it?!? 🫣
Sangita Myska nailed it with: "Not everyone that voted for brexit was a racist, but every racist voted for brexit"
@Rich.H68
10 ай бұрын
Was that Sangita I thought it was Obrien anyway it's a true comment.
@MrJudge51
10 ай бұрын
Spot on.
@thomaswigfield7623
10 ай бұрын
Stewart Lee also had a great comment, “it wasn’t only racists that voted for Brexit, c#nts did too. Racists and f*ck£ing c/nts voted for Brexit!”
@patrickdoyle9304
10 ай бұрын
Is everyone who questionedEU free movement of people racist?
@dscanlan81
10 ай бұрын
@@patrickdoyle9304 that would be the "not everyone that voted for brexit was a racist" part.
The irony is that these Loyalists who adorn their houses and streets in Union flags, determined to be more British than the British, fail to realise that the majority of the mainland British either despise them, or don't give a s*t about them. Most would be glad to see the back of NI and all its sorry politics.
@Harry_84
9 ай бұрын
“Most would be glad to see the back of NI and all it’s sorry politics”. According to Yougov: 32% would be upset if NI left the UK 15% would be happy 43% wouldn’t be bothered either way 9% don’t know. So you’re wrong.
@chrisplummer336
Ай бұрын
58% don't care or glad to see the back of NI. Thats a majority.
The loyalists are not exactly known for their intelligence 😂
Interviewing a couple of Loyalists in a pub after a few drinks, what could go wrong?
@gerardfinnigan1539
10 ай бұрын
fair and balanced comment fom two inteligent gentlemen with agrown up dress sense
@olearyma57
10 ай бұрын
Absolutely nothing. The most honest and authentic media interview you will ever get !.
@martientegelaers6522
10 ай бұрын
brexit
@Mr-Foad
10 ай бұрын
Im surprised they never started signing their "songs" and the english national anthem....
@georgerobert4709
10 ай бұрын
It wouldn't matter if you interviewed them in a desert , drink or no drink this is how these people think. I know I encountered them on a daily basis once upon a time. If they had another braincell it would be lonely ! Bitter and twisted eejits !
This is what we're up against. You can't debate irrational prejudice
@daveoshaughnessy
10 ай бұрын
More like you can’t debate pig-ignorance and proud stupidity!
@lucas4019
10 ай бұрын
And people say that Eastern Europeans are racist XDDD look at these chaws
@darthlazurus4382
10 ай бұрын
I call it willful ignorance myself. They only believe what they choose tae, and aggressively ignore anything that proves it wrong.
@davepangolin4996
10 ай бұрын
that's no way to talk about Uncle Mo
@tomricketts7821
10 ай бұрын
Seperate development originated in Northern Ireland the two groups hardly interact seperate church’s seperate schools seperate neighbourhoods seperate sports etc etc and have done for generations
Loyalists hoped Brexit would restore a hard border with the Republic and sabotage the GFA.
@spankeyfish
10 ай бұрын
What amuses me is that English Nationalists (the mainland version of these two who also happen to say all the same stuff but in a different accent) literally don't give a shit if NI leaves the union.
@paulohagan3309
10 ай бұрын
And it has blown up in their face ....
@harrywaters7718
10 ай бұрын
You’re wrong. They didn’t think that or want that. Sure they’ve tried everything to ensure there was no hard border, but the EU and the Republic of Ireland deliberately made it difficult and Leo Varadkar threatened that the IRA would come back.
The irony of it. NI is the largest sponger on the UK Exchequer.
I feel like I have to apologize to the journalist.
@sirderik
10 ай бұрын
Don't they are TRT, this is the type of stuff they wanted to see and why they asked to interview them in a pub after drinks
@octavianpopescu4776
10 ай бұрын
I liked his face when he heard Muslims want to conquer the world. 🤣 That was funny.
@martientegelaers6522
10 ай бұрын
he knew when he started it
@Arltratlo
10 ай бұрын
no need, he knows he is talking to the avg Brits!
@har3036
10 ай бұрын
@@octavianpopescu4776He's probably a Muslim, and now they've giving him ideas. But honestly, did he tell them his country of origin and his religion??
These two are the DUP's equivalent to Trump's MAGA.
@Oluinneachain
10 ай бұрын
Kindred spirits. Literally. Backwoods men and Hlllbillies.
@OscarOSullivan
10 ай бұрын
Hill billy actually comes from settlers to America from this section of Irish society.
@OscarOSullivan
10 ай бұрын
@@Buckets1000Good question what do we do with them.
@asiabrew81
10 ай бұрын
@@OscarOSullivan Have more of their kids and grandkids attend integrated schools?
@staffy4389
10 ай бұрын
Let's do what longshanks said in BRAVEHEART , we'll breed them out,,, go nationalism.. go S.F.
These two fine inaudible toothless gentlemen are a shining representation of Unionism.
@harrywaters7718
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, that’s what Max wants it portrayed as…. They don’t represent the average population
This is the kind of people the republic have had to deal with for 100+ years
They obviously Don’t understand the guy in front of them is a Muslim! 😂
@gerardflynn7382
10 ай бұрын
He could actually be Hindu.
@Oluinneachain
10 ай бұрын
@@gerardflynn7382or Jewish
@octavianpopescu4776
10 ай бұрын
I loved the look on his face when they said that. I would have followed up with: "Do you think I want to conquer the world?"
@anitagorse9204
10 ай бұрын
Or don't care. British exceptionalism.
@notorio526
10 ай бұрын
@@gerardflynn7382Turkey is less than 1% Hindu
Loyalists only see their own prejudiced sectarian beliefs and hate everyone else who is not one of them!
@kevinwillis6707
10 ай бұрын
exactly.
The irony, they are afraid of immigrants coming to a country and influencing the language, religion, and culture through peaceful social integration, but didn't mind their immigrant ancestors doing it through force, famine, segregation, and bloodshed.
@aengusryan5948
10 ай бұрын
That's different, the Muslims are trying to take over the world, don't forget that bit of reasoning.
@cooldaddy2877
10 ай бұрын
Excellent point!
@kingquinn3897
10 ай бұрын
'Peaceful' social 'integration'? My ancestors weren't immigrants arriving on a rubber dinghy or huddled pitifully in the back of a lorry with their arms outstretched begging for help. They were conquering armies who arrived in sophisticated vessels. Massive massive difference.
@cooldaddy2877
10 ай бұрын
@@kingquinn3897 Conquering armies? Kinda says it all. Truth is Protestants were worse, far worse, than modern migrants as Protestants were killers, rapists, land stealers etc. Finally, with a name like Quinn.....you are Irish!!!!
@steveharris1974
10 ай бұрын
@@kingquinn3897 You do realise that is exactly the point I made? I see immigrants everyday, not that many, working, their children going to school and playing football with my son, helping with my wifes shopping trolly when it was too heavy for her to wheel. They didn't plant a load of Scottish here who stole the land, changed the language and religion by force, wrecked the infastructure and then treated the native people like something that came off the bottom of their shoe and still want to now, you are the problem immigrant, I don't see any of these people refusing to form government because native people want to use their native language in their own country. If you don't like immigrants, don't be a hypocrite, get out of my country and take your hatred for it's culture and people with you. Anglo/American exceptionalism at it's finest, you think a person needing help from a war torn country is less tolerable than a theif with a gun in his hand because they are a foreigner, everyone gets what's they deserve eventually, and Brexit will sort that shit out.
This is what the native Irish have to put up with every day. I'm English as well.
I don't understand these people. There are those who believed the lies and voted for Brexit and now regret it. But we also have people like this who have so much hatred for those who are not like them that no argument, no evidence will persuade them otherwise. Luckily we have young people growing up who can see the logic and understand and might create a better future.
@lizroberts1569
10 ай бұрын
Their young people are tainted with their sickening views. I’ve seen the Orange men March and it’s deeply unpleasant
@MrFuckwit999
10 ай бұрын
For them everything is seen through the prism of loyalism. They don't really care about the economy, NHS, jobs etc (that's why the DUP are popular) so if brexit would bring them closer to GB and away from Eire, then they'll vote for it.
@cgmat7804
10 ай бұрын
@@MrFuckwit999 they don't care about the economy as many of them are "spongers" the very thing the guy said he worries about
@uqs57bju
10 ай бұрын
They are honestly very easy to understand. They are hooligans. Some of the most extreme nationalists in every country. The hard thing to understand is how people got to this point. If I'm going to be honest. There probably is a good reason why they don't believe evidence. They either did very poorly in school or they only have the absolute basic necessity. They don't have a job that uses any of it, so they might honestly not know how evidence works and it might even look like a foreign language.
@susanpalmer4705
10 ай бұрын
I hope your right to trust in a less bigoted future. 🤞Noone can fix these broken dolls. I wonder if they know how very stupid they sound. It has always suprised me that they pretend to believe in a faith.
If these people want to live in Britain, why don’t they move there?
@tamhunter5025
10 ай бұрын
They believe they all ready do,what do you think britain is
@thesaintirl
10 ай бұрын
@@tamhunter5025while I disagree with the statement, British people have a right to live anywhere the same as everyone. The island of Britain is Britain, it is quite clear on the UK passport that citizens of the United Kingdom are British but do not have to live in Britain.
@gobnait7855
10 ай бұрын
@@tamhunter5025 (Great) Britain is the island composed of Wales, Scotland and England. The UK is GB plus Northern Ireland. As these peoples' ancestors were brought to colonize Ireland over 300 years ago, where could they go? They are now part of the population of the island of Ireland. Much as they claim to be British and reject the adjective ''Irish'', the words ''Irish Whiskey'' are on their delicious drink. 🥃
@tamhunter5025
10 ай бұрын
@gobnait7855 I am scottish not british
@gobnait7855
10 ай бұрын
@@tamhunter5025 While ''Great Britain'' is a political term dating from the 1707 Act of Union, ''Britain'' has been the name of the island since the time of the ancient Greeks. Scots are rightly refusing English domination and want to finish with ''Great Britain'' but it's not necessary to ditch a neutral geographical term, ''Britain''. I realize that it has been damaged by England's persuading the rest of the world that English = British. Make that change, do that EVERYONE, EVERYWHERE will know that British are not necessarily English but Scottish and Welsh too. 🏴🏴🇪🇺
Most people in Northern Ireland voted against Brexit.
This is what we nationalists in the North have to put up
@Hiberno_sperg
Ай бұрын
I find them almost impossible to communicate with.
NI's finest pub philosophers. Sadly a few still left in Scotland like em.
@fredbuchan7461
10 ай бұрын
More than a few sadly!
@OscarOSullivan
10 ай бұрын
Tennant’s lager Orangeman’s piss
It's ironic that after Brexit non-EU migration to the UK has massively gone up. I'm sure those two in the video will be overjoyed about that.
@Arltratlo
10 ай бұрын
....and will say, its all the EUs fault
@davebento1548
10 ай бұрын
Those two in the video are too stupid to understand that.
@paulohagan3309
10 ай бұрын
They wouldn't have a clue. Narrow mindedness is the main pastime in that God-forsaken province.
@BingoFrogstrangler
10 ай бұрын
@@Arltratlowho fault is it then.
@graduke1
10 ай бұрын
IS there any evidence that that has anything to do with brexit???I suspect an increase in non EU immigration would happen anyway. The developing countries in west and south Asia and subsaharan Africa have burgeoning populations and not enough jobs. And...there are plenty of uk businesses and landlords benefitting from cheap labour. Why stop the gravy train???the working classes in the uk don't want any more mass immigration, but they are getting ignored. That isn't he fault of the voters but the politicians who are ignoring the wishes of the electorate, or are just plain incompetent....or a mixture of both!
The Brexit referendum was an IQ test of the British population, and they failed by more than 50 %. 🙃🙃
@andrewbarton8525
10 ай бұрын
It was a test that left the tories and Labour to be fair with carte blanch ( excuse the pun) to know they could control the maliable enough to do what they like from now on. Sad state of affairs.
@therealjetlag
10 ай бұрын
They failed by 37%, which is the percentage of the actual population who voted to leave.
@NeilCWCampbell
10 ай бұрын
Actually they failed by 28% but I take the point happily (52% of vote, 37% of quorum and 28% of population)
@NeilCWCampbell
10 ай бұрын
@@andrewbarton8525 I think you will find this a conservative mess, 80 seat majority was actually the best thing that ever happened to labour and remainers
@hansolehansen7166
10 ай бұрын
@@therealjetlag So there was about 26% who didn't vote. Why didn´t they vote in such a importen issue? Because of low IQ.? 🙄🙄
Spongers was a term used against nationalists in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s. There were plenty of nationalists on benefits then, but only because of widespread discrimination. All changed now with the advent of the Fair Employment Legislation. This was legislation that was fought against at every step of the way by the DUP.
Look at the face of that Turkish journalist. You couldn't make it up!
@faithlesshound5621
10 ай бұрын
If he has spent time in Cyprus, he will recognise a hopeless situation when he sees one.
@thegolem797
10 ай бұрын
Ah, but is he Catholic Muslim or a Protestant Muslim?
@geraldwagner8739
10 ай бұрын
@@faithlesshound5621 I think you can compare the situation in Cyprus with Ireland very well.
@sirderik
10 ай бұрын
Yes he knows he will get great views and that his CEOs will love the subject matter.
@octavianpopescu4776
10 ай бұрын
@@thegolem797 As an Eastern Orthodox myself, I call them Cathies and Proties. I'm an Ortho.
In relation to 'spongers' it would be interesting to know their opinion of the elected DUP representatives.
@Mr-Foad
10 ай бұрын
The real spongers are the royals and uk gov but the loyalists still worship them....
I'm yet to see someone who voted Brexit who didn't believe into the lies.
@dulls8475
10 ай бұрын
Well get out more then. Or are you under the tyranny of ulez now and loving it?
@joshuaprice1577
10 ай бұрын
Oh the lies the liesss. Any movement spearheaded by politicians consists of lies. I didn't believe a thing they promised my vote was made entirely for myself.
The fact that N Ireland voted remain indicates that not all 'loyalists' shared their blinkered view's
@kevinwillis6707
10 ай бұрын
thats because theres a difference between moderate unionists and these loyalists, who are basically working class racists, if it was the mainland they would vote for the british national party.
@ThW5
10 ай бұрын
Or it may mean that the Republicans and floaters together outnumber the Loyalists already...☘
@therealjetlag
10 ай бұрын
Nobody said they did.
not everyone that voted for Brexit was a racist, but all racists voted for Brexit
@davepangolin4996
10 ай бұрын
Yawn
@danielcrafter9349
10 ай бұрын
@@davepangolin4996- but true
@davepangolin4996
10 ай бұрын
@@danielcrafter9349 no it isn't. The vast majority of Pakistani heritage Muslims voted remain. If we assume that there are the same percentage of racist Pakistani Muslims as any other identity group then your argument fails by simple maths.
@Alltime2050
10 ай бұрын
@@davepangolin4996 You're comment is a terrific example of conservative projection mixed with their amazing ability to make assumptions and then assume those assumptions are true enough to act on.
@davepangolin4996
10 ай бұрын
@@Alltime2050 "make assumptions and then assume those assumptions are true enough to act on." 🤣🤣🤣🤣
None so blind as those that refuse to see!
When I moved to the UK 15 years ago, me and the other international students at the University, we all had this image of the UK and British people as all being very well educated. We were so far from the truth.
@francocanuck
6 ай бұрын
HEY OUI
This is seriously scary! Their lack of self awareness is telling!
@markgallagher5908
10 ай бұрын
The motto for loyalism is, ignorant and proud of it.
@andyforr1
29 күн бұрын
It’s called thick
I despair, I really do, Max. As long as there is ignorance like this, there is no hope. I cannot understand these loyalists who do not support their own country.
10 ай бұрын
They're like the US evangelicals/pentecostals/westboro baptists. The Catholic church is the beast the Pope is the Antichrist. Just like the crackers praying to Messiah Trump.
@imastaycool
10 ай бұрын
"Northern Ireland" is NOT classed as a country. It's a PART of a province in Ireland of which SIX counties are occupied. It's a manufactured failed statelet. It only exists through invasion, colonisation and partitioning of Ireland. It wasn't designed to last forever. Unionism is over.
@abbofun9022
10 ай бұрын
Afraid this generation needs to die out first before there’s even a start of a peaceful resolution.
@aleph8888
10 ай бұрын
The Republic of Ireland reversed two referendums on EU Treaties because they “voted the wrong way”.
10 ай бұрын
@@aleph8888 Not what happened but then again you get all your information from the Sun.
It is refreshing to see some honesty instead of the usual hypocrisy around the "EU laws are harmful to us" talking point. On the other hand, it will be too difficult to make these people reconsider any iota of their bigoted views.
After the 'take over the world' comment the journalist's facial expression is priceless.
The sheer irony of the descendants of colonial settlers not wanting immigrants in the country they settled is clearly lost on these two.
“The best argument against Democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.” as Winston Churchill probably never said.
@51gan788
10 ай бұрын
I hate that quote. Because it assumes that the average voter is automatically uneducated and misinformed. I think currently that is the state of things, but it doesn't have to be
@bernardmaasdijk734
10 ай бұрын
Isn't Churchill also supposed to have said that democracy is the worst system of government, except for all the other systems?
@thePronto
10 ай бұрын
@bernardmaasdijk734 I came to make that comment. Democracy is messy. However, venal politicians can make it much worse. The politics of division (vs unity) is such a lazy, dishonest way to get elected that there should be laws against it. Selling crack cocaine is illegal because it enriches the seller and harms the buyer: so why allow people like BoJo to prosper at the expense of everyone?
@Shadowman4710
10 ай бұрын
@@51gan788 I assume you've never been to the US then because, well...ummm...
@51gan788
10 ай бұрын
@@Shadowman4710 read my comment again. I'm not saying that people AREN'T misinformed. I'm just saying it doesn't have to be that way. Its possible to have an education, electoral and media system that isn't totally broken and predisposed to disinformation
They just stated why the vast majority in Britain who voted for Brexit did so. It’s a pity that most cannot be as honest. Instead we have the baloney about EU laws and sovereignty.
@pastyman001
10 ай бұрын
The vast majority did NOT vote for brexit. 1.89% either way was the majority, only achieved for a pack of lies by the Leave campaign. It would go the other way bigger now and democracy is continuous. We want back in the EU now
@NeilCWCampbell
10 ай бұрын
Incorrect 28% of population advised brexit
@davidmurrell5143
10 ай бұрын
@@NeilCWCampbell I think they mean why the vast majority who voted for Brexit, this is the real reason they voted for it. Living in an area which voted for Brexit it is really the reason most of them voted for it. They don't like foreigners in their town. In a way I can even understand it, despite being a white Brit, I was the darkest skinned child in my school (and got a surprising amount of racism, most the P word and told to go home), now the area is far more multicultural. These old farts look around the town and don't recognise it, and their fear turns to anger and bigotry. They might not say it is because of the foreigners when they are asked why they voted for Brexit by a journalist, but in the pubs they're more honest and yes it is because they don't want foreigners in their town. Especially those foreigners who don't look like them, despite most of the people who they really don't like not coming from the EU. I mean it's why Rishi is and Braverman are waving the 'small boats' flag so hard.....I wonder if those 2 realise that most of the people they are pandering to would be more than happy to stick them on a plane to Rwanda as well?
@NeilCWCampbell
10 ай бұрын
@@davidmurrell5143 how you know what they thinking 🤔. Do you not get enough attention during school holidays 😂 We need to ensure brexit voters are bearing the burden alone
@Leberteich
10 ай бұрын
UK has just accepted CE standards indefinitely, and signed up to CPTPP rules and jurisdiction. So in case there was any doubt, Brexit arguments against EU laws and for sovereignty indeed were baloney.
I'm Irish and European and proud of it there is no room for racism in any part of this world
@keldsleepnot7961
10 ай бұрын
Yup!
@GnosticAtheist
10 ай бұрын
That is incorrect. The number of active racists are static due to the type of person who will turn to easy answers also being a static %. Thus, there will always be room for racism in society, unless you are advocating genetic modification or selection during birth. However we do not have that technology yet. We will likely get at least one more Hitler atoryline before we reach that level.
@mohm7047
10 ай бұрын
As a British I have every respect for the Irish and European.
@McConnachy
10 ай бұрын
@@systemaiwish it was that simple. Putin / Hitler etc? They force people to take sides
@philipoakfield673
10 ай бұрын
Oh pipe down ya virtue signalling twit.
All I can think of is Harry Enfield' 'William Ulsterman' character.
😆 They are a dying breed, thankfully.
It's comical listening to someone with an Irish accent expressing their hatred for the Irish.
@Oluinneachain
10 ай бұрын
Not really. Just sad.
@TheBigMidweek1889
10 ай бұрын
@@Oluinneachain True!
@OscarOSullivan
10 ай бұрын
Likely east Belfast but remember Ann Symth wanted funding for historical research on Irish speaking soldiers from East Belfast ended
@harrywaters7718
10 ай бұрын
It’s also comical listening to people in Dublin with Man Utd jerseys on, watching Eastenders and speaking English who hate the English!
@harrywaters7718
10 ай бұрын
@@OscarOSullivanyeah, the First World War….when there was 160,000 Irish fighting for Britain in 1916 when only 1,600 joined the Easter rising!
Tommy and his mate will not be convinced by any argument, research, statistic or politician that doesn't repeat exactly what they are sure they already know.
There is a United New Ireland on the horizon Dee and Tommy, time to accept that the Unionist vote is not the majority anymore, start the negotiations now lads
@paulohagan3309
10 ай бұрын
I said that to a Unionist MP in around 1990. Thrown out of court. And he seemed to be one of the more reasonable ones.
To me as an outsider, and in my opinion, to the Loyalists Ireland is just like Ukraine is to the Russians: They want the land, and the ressources, but they despise the people living there for not wanting to be just like them. (Please keep in mind that this is only my personal opinion based on the impression I get from interviews and news)
@TheCloudhopper
10 ай бұрын
Frome someone who is living on this green island of ours: You got a pretty spot on. The English government wants control of the land. They couldn't care less for the people in NI, incl. the Loyalists. And the loyalists are desperate and tragic figures in this, as they really desperately want to belong to a country who doesn't want or respect them.
@RazorMouth
10 ай бұрын
It's similar alright and the history is just as brutal. Both had avoidable famines which killed and displaced millions. But at least Ukraine still has their language, we were made criminals for speaking Irish.
@SirAntoniousBlock
10 ай бұрын
Well the parallel is Ukraine is Ireland Russia Britain and northern Ireland is the Crimea Donbas and Luhansk and loyalists are the Russian settlers who live there.
@lindenbutters9396
10 ай бұрын
I wonder what these drunks bring to their country. Perhaps beery breath, boozers belly and a lack of education are their gift to society.
@RazorMouth
10 ай бұрын
@@majdavojnikovic insightful comment.
The funny thing is they were born on the island of Ireland, yet call themselves British. If they travelled to England they would be called Irish. Edit: Their place of birth is on their passport.
@octavianpopescu4776
10 ай бұрын
This is something I've always wondered. Part of me admires these people, I respect loyalty, but on the other hand when was the last time Westminster showed them loyalty? I mean, it seems less like a healthy 2-way street loyalty and more like... Stockholm syndrome. Do they ever realize that Westminster English politicians feel 0 attachment to them and might not even know/care to know basic things about Northern Ireland. Loyalty is wonderful, but pick the object of your devotion with care. Make sure they're worth it.
@liamm.1431
10 ай бұрын
@octavianpopescu4776 they are loyal, like fleas are loyal to dogs. These are the equivalent of white Rhodesians. The jigs up, but still, they cling on.
@martientegelaers6522
10 ай бұрын
the call that football hullies.... even the age
@paureh9573
10 ай бұрын
@@johngodley256 The Irish Government and the Irish people don't recognise the term "British Isles" So It doesn't exist. It smacks of ownership.
@yellowgreen5229
10 ай бұрын
It's time for Britain to end freedom of movement for NI!
I knew people like this from my time in the RAF. Those from the north were just narrow minded bigots but the ones I met from Southern Ireland in the RAF and later when I worked in London were altogether much more broadminded.
the irony of a brit living in a part of the island of ireland occupied by britain banging on about foreign people “wanting to take over the world” 🤣🤣
Sometimes I think that we should impose an "intelligence test" on people before granting them the right to vote ...
@johnhendriks4085
10 ай бұрын
I like that idea too. A referendum is a stupid way to rule a country. Most people have no idea what they are voting for
@DennisFutball2396
10 ай бұрын
I’ve been saying this about the U.S. since I was 16. Four year degree or min IQ to vote would solve all problems
@DennisFutball2396
10 ай бұрын
Precisely. Parents don’t give their young children a vote if the parents are considering a move or career change. Why should the stupid have a vote?
@Jim1255783
10 ай бұрын
Honestly, just a basic Multiple Choice questionnaire would weed out so much uninformed ignorance
@the81kid
10 ай бұрын
You'd have about zero voters then. And then a dictatorship.
Them loyalists definitely are a bit what's the word ohh yea thick
The beer glasses say it all.
There’s something seriously wrong with these unionists do they not realise that when Ireland reunifies it’ll be the British gov who ratifies it. Will they be fighting the British to stay British? My biggest fear is that they decide to move to Scotland.
@markgallagher5908
10 ай бұрын
Rockall island would be the perfect place for them. I wouldn't blame the Scottish for not wanting them back, they pollute the human genepool.
@paulohagan3309
10 ай бұрын
Oh they'll fight anybody. Heck, they're still fighting the wars of the 16th Century. Fun story: During the troubles the Labour government sent in the British Army who in fairness tried several times to protect the Catholic not-too-small a minority [and I'm speaking as a Republican minded person]. On one occasion [at least one] there was an English regiment protecting the Catholics. There were barricades thrown up and the Loyalists managed to steal the regimental banner. And by God they weren't coy about their contempt; 'Go home you English b>>>>>ds' was heard during the melee. This about the people who send them substantial subventions every year to ensure they are not a complete third-world krapphole.
Good morning Max and all here. So sad to watch it. "They come here to sponge us?,"😔😔😔 . Yes what disturbed me was the hate they showed 😭
@wernervanpeppen4873
10 ай бұрын
I've been in the UK for 27 years. I've paid probably 3 times the amount of tax already he ever has paid in his life, never claimed any government money. I seriously think the UK education system could do with improvement if it produces idiots like this
@candidaprout560
10 ай бұрын
@@wernervanpeppen4873and I agree 💯%with you. I wish you a very nice day and be well and safe
imagine living that long and the only thing u know is hate still.
Ireland will be united....it's just a matter of time despite what tweedledum and tweedledee here in the interview say.
This is the ignorance inherent in loyalist ideology. These two men are a symptom of allowing the opinion of the dregs of society to have a material impact on people who deserve better.
I actually live amongst these idiots and it’s been a long time coming the rest of the world now see what we’ve had to deal with
@liamm.1431
10 ай бұрын
🎯🎯
@anitagorse9204
10 ай бұрын
My condolences. How any person keeps his/her sanity around them is beyong me.
@patcoburn1960
10 ай бұрын
@@liamm.1431 🤣
@therealjetlag
10 ай бұрын
You’re not alone. It’s exactly the same in rural Wiltshire.
@philipoakfield673
10 ай бұрын
Every country has it's slightly dim. Their heart is in the right place
It's funny, we Irish rarely spare a thought for the north. It's like we're gazing upon the rest of the world, and these bigots are angrily looking at our backs.
@smorris12
10 ай бұрын
Over on GB we don't think about them either. They're about on a par with the Falklands or Pitcairn in our consciousness.
@michael37377
10 ай бұрын
Southern apathy for the North is in itself quite an embarrassment for the island to be fair.
@TheCloudhopper
10 ай бұрын
@@michael37377 True, if we want a united Ireland, we should care more for NI. But I think most Irish in the Republic don't want reunification. Too expensive, too much hassle, let the Brits deal with it. And I disagree, but I think I'm in the minority.
@3storiesUp
10 ай бұрын
@@TheCloudhopper Absolutely agree .. The last thing I'd want is reunification.
@stephenconway2468
10 ай бұрын
@@TheCloudhopper My friends in Ireland say to me that they like the concept of a United Ireland but that there are no pushing for it. It will happen some day and that will be fine by them.
As an American (who was consumed by Trump issues at the time) I got the feeling that a big part of Brexit was keeping "those people" out of Britain. Brexiteers never seemed to consider that, to many Europeans, Brits are "those people".
@miakeogh6844
10 ай бұрын
Bobvail so so true
@alfnoakes392
10 ай бұрын
I am an expat Brit in New Zealand, and an American expat colleague and I would jokingly taunt each other "Brexit" and "Trump" over the idiocy in the countries we had left behind.
@michaelcaffery5038
10 ай бұрын
It absolutely was the main reason although few would admit it. I think if the last tranche of baltic countries joining the E.U hadn't happened the vote would have gone the other way because that really pushed up the levels of xenophobia.
@aengusryan5948
10 ай бұрын
The guy in this video that doesn't want foreigners coming over here......is the descendant of foreigners that came to Ireland. I'm not sure these lads (or the groups they mingle with) are the brightest.
@jackkruese4258
10 ай бұрын
To many people Brits are “those people” where did you get that idea from ? And BTW I am Remainer.
Makes me weep when I hear the ignorance of these people. I'm surprised they can walk and talk at the same time
@martint2925
10 ай бұрын
Only on the twelve
@harrywaters7718
10 ай бұрын
And listening to the bigotry in people like you is why Unionists will never allow themselves to be a 15% minority in a United Ireland.
@Jay-Niner
9 ай бұрын
Luckily these two chaps were sitting down
@martint2925
9 ай бұрын
@@Jay-Niner definitely on every benefit going
Its a fact the whole brexit saga was based on racism but no politicians anywhere will say it or admit it
@Taladar2003
10 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say the whole Brexit saga. There were also a lot of British exceptionalism and pining for the days of the Empire involved.
@aphextwin5712
10 ай бұрын
@@Taladar2003But then British exceptionalism implies superiority of the British people. Yes, it also implies superiority of British culture, institutions and so on. But like racism it says, we are better than the others, we are destined to be rule makers rather than rule takers.
@Arltratlo
10 ай бұрын
not all Brexshiteers are racists, but al racists voted for Brexshit!
@naeemchudry5505
10 ай бұрын
I'd say a combination of of racists and the right wing 'sovereign individual' believers (you know - Singapore on Thames etc...) weaponising their useful idiots with racism.... Remember Penny Mordaunt and the whole 'Turkey is joining the EU "bullshit?
@davepangolin4996
10 ай бұрын
@@Taladar2003 🤣
It's sad and ironic that the guy would prepared to fight for a nation that were there a referendum in GB along the lines of 'Should NI remain part of the UK? or Should NI be part of the ROI?' I feel sure that there would be an overwhelming majority who'd vote for the latter.....far more than 52%! If that referendum were to be restricted to GB Brexit voters only, it'd be near 100%, because many blame NI for their beloved Brexit not working!
@RazorMouth
10 ай бұрын
They're loyalists, they're loyal to the monarchy not the British government or the people of Britain. Purely loyal to the King. Crazy isn't it, in 2023 people like this exist. Unionists are different and usually more moderate and more intelligent from my experience.
@gerardflynn7382
10 ай бұрын
@@RazorMouthActually the Loyalists are loyal to a King that died 4 centuries ago. King William the 3rd of the Netherlands (Protestant) ,because he beat the king of England and Ireland James the first (Catholic) .
@imastaycool
10 ай бұрын
Do Brits think we fought British rule for centuries for the laugh of it or something? When people fight, they fight for a good reason and when a nation fights it's because something was taken away from them! After the Norman/Anglo Invasion of Ireland in the 1100s, we then had Planters arrive as per The Plantations in 16th- and 17th-century which involved the confiscation of Irish-owned land by the English Crown and the colonisation of land with settlers from Britain. We fought back: 1. The two Desmond Rebellions took place in 1569-1573 and 1579-1583 to *fight against the threat of the extension of the English government* over the province. 2. The successful Battle of Clontibret was *fought against the British* in County Monaghan in 1595. 3. The successful Battle of the Yellow Ford was *fought against the British* in County Armagh in 1598. 4. The Nine Years' War, sometimes called Tyrone's Rebellion took place in Ireland from 1593 to 1603. It was fought between an Irish alliance to *fight against English rule in Ireland.* 5. The Rebellion of 1641 took place when Irish Catholics were being threatened by expansion of the anti-Catholic English Parliament and Scottish Planters and they *rebelled against English and Protestant domination.* 6. The Irish Rebellion of 1798 was a major uprising *against British rule in Ireland.* (The Society of United Irishmen was led primarily by liberal Protestants). The Irish wanted an end to anti-Catholic discrimination, greater Irish self-governance, and to roll back the Plantations of Ireland. 7. The Irish rebellion of 1803 was launched by Irish republicans *against British rule in Ireland* 8. The Young Irelander Rebellion was an Irish nationalist uprising led by the Young Ireland movement, part of the wider Revolutions of 1848. 9. The Fenian Rising of 1867 was a rebellion *against British rule in Ireland*, organised by the Irish Republican Brotherhood. 10. The Easter Rising of 1916 was piloted by Irish republicans *against British rule in Ireland* with the aim of establishing an independent Irish Republic. 11. The civil rights movement in the early 1960s challenged the inequality and discrimination against ethnic Irish Catholics that was perpetrated by the Ulster Protestant community. 12. Derry activists' marched on the 5 October 1968 in Derry, but were attacked by the RUC and loyalists. THAT IS A SNAPSHOT OF HOW WE HAVE FOUGHT AND RESISTED BOTH BRITISH RULE AND DISCRIMINATION BY THE UNIONIST COMMUNITY!
@johnkilcullen1051
10 ай бұрын
@@imastaycoolthanks for the repeated history lessons. You might consider this thought - the 1916 Rising made partition inevitable. One other question- who were the gallant allies in Europe referred to in the Proclamation of Independence? The German Empire, the Austro-Hungarian Empire?
@imastaycool
10 ай бұрын
@@johnkilcullen1051 people like you need a good history lesson... people like you would do and say anything that puts the blame on the Irish people. Had there been no invasion nor colonisation of Ireland then there would have been no partition and no IRA. The blame lies with the Brits and no one else, you charlatan.
Voting for brexit was like voting for self destruction and yet they did it. Fascinating stuff.
@michaelhunter9791
10 ай бұрын
An insight into stupidity
@paulohagan3309
10 ай бұрын
And everyone thinks it's only the Japanese who are into the kamakazi spirit.😃
2:24 🤣🤣😂 that was my exact reaction, I am gobsmacked, speechless, bewildered , astounded by their responses..........or should that be their ignorance
They should try coming over to the Republic for a drink. I think they'll be surprised at just how welcoming and friendly the Irish are. Might help to change their minds, if they can open their minds to that possibility
@ciaranbrk
10 ай бұрын
Too far gone besides they are sixty odd and look in poor health they will be dead in five years.
@NeilCWCampbell
10 ай бұрын
Goldfinger disagree..
@David-wp2iw
10 ай бұрын
They don't go any further than closest job centre and local pub. They must be dislike neighbouring cities by saying "we are better than those from different post code".
@NeilCWCampbell
10 ай бұрын
@@David-wp2iw awww salty divisive tears You probably a brexit voter right 👍
@liamm.1431
10 ай бұрын
@@ciaranbrk🤞
So if the people vote for a ' United Ireland ' , this man would rather sideline democracy, and fight a civil war ? Against Ireland, the British Government ( that instigated a United Ireland referendum) ? Clearly this civil war might need some work as to who to fight and to what ends ?
@louis-philippearnhem6959
10 ай бұрын
It’s sad and frightening…
@windowman929
10 ай бұрын
Fight for the right to keep my blue passport 😮
@davidpowell6098
10 ай бұрын
These two would not understand joined up thinking.
@MrFuckwit999
10 ай бұрын
@@davidpowell6098 They probably struggle with joined-up writing.
10 ай бұрын
They live in a past where there was the UDR handing out free guns and ammo to unionists. The SAS were making bombs for the loyalists to use in Dublin to slaughter civilians with no warning. MI5 were providing them with intel on targets, and the RUC was entirely full of loyalist protestants.
The look on the journalists face! 🤣 he must be thinking "Who the Feck am i talking to!?" 🤡
They thought Britain was so important that the Eu would gladly stick a border on the island of Ireland. Instead they have a border between themselves and Britain. A united Ireland in all but name.
Uurgh! I used to work in the Benefits Department and the number of times I used to have to correct people I knew about people coming here to "sponge" off us, and the fact they (both EU & non EU) couldn't just get off the boat/train/plane and instanly start claiming was insane.
@benjaminford9932
10 ай бұрын
Been out of the civil service for over a decade but worked in benefit offices for 29 years and absolutely agree with you. General ignorance amongst public and vested interest amongst right wing press and politicians to ignore the very long term existence of the Habitual Residence Test.
@marcasoceallaigh5362
10 ай бұрын
It really doesn't matter how many times you explain the facts to people like this, they're so full of hatred towards anyone/anything outside their parochial bubble that they will either choose to ignore reality or just direct their hatred towards anyone/anything else, they've simply live a hate filled lifestyle and don't know how to live any other way.
@benjaminford9932
10 ай бұрын
@@Ultra250 I'm well aware of the issues thank you. The specific ignorance I was writing about is people's belief that anybody can come the UK and claim social security benefits. The habitual residence test, which has been in existence for decades, specifically prevents this. Lazy media or media with an agenda to encourage and maintain xenophobia always fail to present this fact.
@marcasoceallaigh5362
10 ай бұрын
@@Ultra250 first off, I never said that everyone who voted to leave the EU is that type of person, reread what I wrote in my comment, and secondly if you never voted then you don't get to voice an opinion on the subject, you didn't bother yourself to vote so stand aside and put up and shut up.
@benjaminford9932
10 ай бұрын
@@Ultra250 Government website: www.gov.uk/government/publications/public-funds/public-funds-accessible#public-funds-social-housing-homelessness-assistance-and-other-publicly-funded-support-and-assistance
Coming from people who wish to be part of a country that pillaged half the world and now refuse the responsibility. Uneducated and primitive. Brexit was a good thing - for the EU. My condolences to those who were dragged out kicking and screaming 😢
@catgladwell5684
10 ай бұрын
It is nice to see a bit of empathy for those of us who voted remain for a change, since most of these videos have a good riddance Brits vibe in their comments. The whole business is sickening.
@bavariancarenthusiast2722
10 ай бұрын
@@jim-es8qk When did that happen? Drafted in 1950 by the then newly formed Council of Europe,[1] the convention entered into force on 3 September 1953. All Council of Europe member states are party to the convention and new members are expected to ratify the convention at the earliest opportunity
@sockjuice8795
10 ай бұрын
@@jim-es8qkhuman rights? Ha! Ha! Don't make us laugh. In a Pigs eye you did. You surpressed so many nations and denied them the right to self determination. You left nothing but chaos in your wake. Do us a favour and shut it.😮
@W1nDs0R
10 ай бұрын
The UK has voted to leave the EU by 51.89% to 48.11%. Basically half the population were against it, and a lot of people who votes leave were fooled by politicians lies. What a tragic state of affairs.
@tarlochankaliroy1030
10 ай бұрын
@@jim-es8qk we apparently have forgotten the lesson we taught. 🤔
If only these people realised how little people on the British mainland give a toss about them! If there was a referendum on ceding NI to Ireland here they would be sorely disappointed in the result.
@paulohagan3309
10 ай бұрын
The people in Britain may not give a toss about them but they give quite a few tosses about the subventions [£12B at least last year I believe] the Brits send their way. And these days, the Brits get absolutely nothing for it. Talk about paying for the sins of your fathers ...😄😄
It is worth remembering that when the issue of potential damage to the union was raised, Nigel Lawson, the chairman of the Leave campaign, suggested that the obvious way for the issue of the Irish border to be resolved, was for Ireland to rejoin the UK and become a vassal of the crown again. "I would be very happy if the Republic of Ireland - I don't think it's going to happen - were to say 'we made a mistake in getting independence in 1922', and come back within the United Kingdom. That would be great." -Lord Nigel Lawson, Feb 2016. So that's the kind of brain-genius we're dealing with here.
The look on the journalists face (in the freeze frame) speaks volumes of how he feels about his interview partners.
The embodiment of the famous “Brexit geezers”, it seems like a caricature but they are very real.
Listening to someone from Northern Ireland call other people "spongers" has to be the height of irony.
*_The DUP never signed the Good Friday Agreement. They do not recognize it. They voted to leave the EU but not for the reasons they gave as the free movement of people has no impact on Northern Ireland. That cannot be an issue for them. Their DUP wanted a hard border between Northern Ireland and Ireland and they hoped Brexit would achieve this._*
Between the two of them they havent a scooby doo whats going on. They do realise brexit has done more for a united ireland than the ira or sinn fein ever did. Isnt it ironic the more they fight not to be irish the more irish they become.
@josephturner7569
10 ай бұрын
IQ smaller than their shoe size.
This is beyond shocking..
Brexit is essentially a demonstration of English nationalism. Scotland, NI, Gibraltar and Greater London all voted to remain in the EU but the situation was totally ignored by Brexiteers as the bulk of the Leave vote was from England As Max said, the Brexiteers have no regard for the potential effect on the Union and the political problems that it will cause the British government 1. Scottish independence 2. Irish unification 3. Geopolitical problems with Spain over Gibraltar With the UK inside the EU then these problems were smoothed over but outside of the EU they become headaches
Were do you begin Max they know nothing about anything and the sad part of it they will never learn anything
I dont know if it is “too stupid to understand” as much as living in a hatred bubble for so long it just becomes a reflex action without thinking things through.
As you commented before Max ,these are people who have never ventured out of their own communities. To add in my own previous comment (taken from loyalist friends of my mine) " these are the loyalists from council estates that even we avoid".
Looks like he ran into Uncle Andy and Pastor Begbie 😂
as they say, equality can seem like oppression to those that lived with privilege.
For an insight on how loyalists depended on help from British security forces for their campaign in the past, see declassified uk, Anne Cadwallader "King Charles: Patron of a Disgraced Regiment" 5 May 2023
The reaction from the journalist after he said "Muslims!" Is hilarious.
So glad I left that crazy place years ago. It's insane that folks there believe people would travel across a continent to draw the dole in Norn Iron. That's my worst nightmare, having to go back and ending up at the jobcentre in Coleraine. I think I would rather throw myself in front of a train.
@paulohagan3309
10 ай бұрын
Likewise. An absolute dump of a place. Especially Belfast.
How is it that.... THEIR VOTE IS WORTH THE SAME AS MINE?!?!? Can someone explain to me how that's fair or reasonable?
@martientegelaers6522
10 ай бұрын
50%
The shocking thing about this is that people like this are even allowed to vote to begin with
@sweetwilliam4199
10 ай бұрын
They walk among us and do so unsupervised.
@alextabet9247
10 ай бұрын
That is why when it comes to a referendum such as this, it is critical to ensure that all voters take a serious course on the pros and cons of remaining and leaving, and also dispel all the myths and lies. The course should be approved by both sides of the argument.
@colloquialsoliloquy6391
10 ай бұрын
Germany banned referendums,because they've seen how easy it is for fascists to come to power.
@j.davidmcardle7011
10 ай бұрын
Dead/alive...RIGHT
@liketheroman
10 ай бұрын
Democracy!
The occupied counties in Ireland CANNOT be independent for 3 reasons: 1. It would be partition all over again! 2. It is not enshrined in the GFA. 3. As it stands, 4 of the 6 occupied counties are predominantly catholic and/or nationalist.
The mentality is positively frightening!
Perhaps they had forgotten to switch their brains on ! Re-unification for Ireland is inevitable so why not accept it !
@liamm.1431
10 ай бұрын
🎯
They need to stop benefits, I’m sick of keeping these types in free houses
@joeavreg2254
10 ай бұрын
And what problem does that fix? Maybe insist on better education and access to books. A lack of benefits creates these freaks.
@octavianpopescu4776
10 ай бұрын
@@joeavreg2254 These people won't read. I myself, didn't read much for many years and the change to me reading... maybe 1 book/1-2 weeks came from myself. It wasn't some external factor. Or education is too late for them and access to books won't convince them.
@grtcara8386
10 ай бұрын
@@joeavreg2254 Octavian is correct, these people are so far gone, so lost, they are done, they will never change and frankly they don’t have the mental capacity to change so why should I work hard to pay massive taxes to give those types a free house, free money, free NHS. You take all that away from them and then you’ll see then change quick sharp
@joeavreg2254
10 ай бұрын
@@grtcara8386 And every other person on benefits? It's restricting access to these things that costs so much money. Means testing and shut like it expressly wastes billions to ensure a degraded state.
It's the hatred they have for people who are not Protestant, and that's that.
@MiloManning05
10 ай бұрын
*British
🤣🤣🤣that turkish journalist is easyer to understand .
Ok I get it but you really need to start accepting some of the incredible positives of Brexit such as: :(
@davidlally592
10 ай бұрын
( mega laughs )
There are people from Turkey who are not Muslim but the point still stands the journalist realised why people give these people a wide berth. My father and grandfather once met during a six nations championship Ireland vs England people from the unionist community from Northern Ireland wearing England rugby shirts says it all.
How did a British Protestant loyalist end up living in a part of Ireland, a country where the majority of the people there had a different religion, language, and culture to his... oh yes, through mass immigration (British policy of plantations) by immigrants who took over and forced their religion, language, and culture on the people who were already living there. But this man will fight for that, and also against that happening to him
@neil4817
6 ай бұрын
How are the Protestants alive today personally responsible for what their ancestors did?
@sb8163
6 ай бұрын
@@neil4817 Always the victim narrative of the poor innocent Protestants facing persecution by the vengeful paddies through no fault of their own, eh? They're not personally responsible. The people who attack Belfast GAA pitches, oppose Irish language preschools, and intimidate elected representatives such as Alliance Party candidates are responsible for passing on the old hatred of Catholics and "Rotten Prods" or Lundys to the younger generations
Oh dear... "spongers" living off the State is Northern Ireland personified. The rUK subsidises NI to the tune of around £10 billion per year _(more_ than the net amount to the EU) with 55% of the working population being government employees!
@freddieb3537
10 ай бұрын
The irony is completely lost on them 😂
@martinbyrne6643
10 ай бұрын
When a united ireland happens, we will have to pay for these pair of muffins to sit around all day in pubs talking rubbish.
@liamm.1431
10 ай бұрын
@@martinbyrne6643 OK number 1. We in the North East of Ireland, nationalists and unionists, have been picking up the health education and housing bills for people from the rest of Ireland for years. 2.large areas of newly built houses in West and North Belfast are allocated to "travellers" from the south, none whom have any trouble applying for and receiving benefits that are paid for by the workers who pay their rates and taxes 3.the nonsense of the we'll have to pay for the northerners upkeep has been exposed as utter nonsense by various non partisan reports and investigations, 4. Brexit has proven that an all island economy is far more efficient and profitable for the whole island population rather than the pre Brexit setup! 5.We nationalists in the North owe nothing to freestaters, and all the fear mongering fina geal/fianna Fail shills in the world(like their brexiteer counterparts) will be defeated, as they always are and always will be by the common sense of ALL the Irish nation.
@MICHAELCAMPBELL69
10 ай бұрын
Agreed! But many other parts are also subsidised ie NW England Wales and many other parts by the South East.
Its no suprise that the dumbest amongst us are also the most hateful.
@jimmyhay47
10 ай бұрын
The corrupt ,Elton and Winchester educated, Tolies are worse. They stoke the fires of this ignorance.
@jimmyhay47
10 ай бұрын
*Eton