Stock clutch on stage 2, stock struts on springs for 40k miles, survived crashes, you must have gotten the “terminator package”

Great video! Personally- anything you do to cars whether it be lowering springs or a turbo I'd bite the bullet and splurge for the supporting mods. Subscribed! Keep up the good videos on your channel!

People honestly need to do more than just springs. It's well documented that your chances of issues are MUCH greater with springs only. Specially if it's a daily, you drive spiritedly, weekend track warrior, or your area has shitty roads. If you really do love and care for your car, you should save the extra bit of money and just get a cup kit or coil over kit. Sure, you might get lucky like you have. But you're in the minority regarding not having issues. I wanted to do springs only for my MKV once upon a time. But my group whom a majority drive tuned GTIs and Rs both on and off the track talked me into saving the extra 600 for an H&R Sport Cup kit. It added maybe a month of waiting for the new addition to the car. Which was the best thing I could have done. I've put over 120k on this cup kit and it's like new. Doubt many with stock shocks and struts with a semi aggressive to aggressive spring only drop can drive that long on those factory shocks and struts without them going out. I mean, I'm sure there are people out there. But that's still a minority to the people who broke their shit. You don't have to get the absolute top of the line system. I wouldn't recommend bottom of the barrel shit either like Raceland or anything. But there are options for many in the middle. If a cup kit does not exist, you can piece together your own for the same cost give or take. You don't have to go out and drop 2-3k or more just to not have springs only. In the end. It's your car and choice. Do what you want and believe what you feel is best. I'm not gonna call people who do springs only on a tuned car stupid for their decision. I'm not them, so who am I to say? I'm just urging people to go out and comb the forums and local groups to see if springs only is the right choice for you. If you're fine with the added chance of issues. Power to ya. Building and tuning cars is pay to play though. Never skimp out.

Best solution is as you wear out the stock shocks, save for Bilstein B8 which work well with lowered springs and should last a long while being monotube dampers

@ValFinale

2 жыл бұрын

exactly. stock struts would go bad eventually anyway, just replace them when they feel like a bouncy pos

Awesome man I watched your other eibach spring video, I bought them and had them installed and just picked up my car today, also went with the euro tuning flush kit, the whole set up looks great and rides really well, i have a 2018 MK 7.5 GTI.

@MrDcohen81

4 жыл бұрын

Hows this setup working for you? i have a 2019 mk7.5 and want to do the same.

I drove a MK5 for 10 years with Eibach Sports and had 0 issues with stock struts.

Is the Tein S Tech lowering springs any good with stock struts?

The eibach springs and the vwr springs both have the same drop of 25/20mm but the vwr springs are more pricey. I also hear that eibach was manufacturing lowering springs for vwr, so would be interested to see the difference between both of the 2 lowering springs and see what the differences are in terms of how harsh or soft they feel on the road

Truhart lowering springs or D2 lowering springs? Please suggest I have a 8th gen Civic

glad you put this up man, I have a '15 GTI 2 dr with around 36k and I'm thinking about doing springs for the price. I was worried about all the stuff online but this is reassuring.

@Russellscottx

5 жыл бұрын

Happy to help man!

Dope video Russ👍🏿

What Tire size are you running and how low did you drop the car?

I have a toyota camry 2018 i want to go on lower springs but im worried that i will come up with issues or damage something and it will cost more any sugestions

I was running 034 springs with stock struts/ shocks. Changed to RacingLine struts/shocks with H&R springs, rides so much better.

@RickyJnum1FAN

3 жыл бұрын

Im planning on getting H&R OE Springs on my 7.5 GTI w DCC, I have Neuspeed sport springs and its just too stiff

@brianjburrows8967

3 жыл бұрын

@@RickyJnum1FAN are you running stock struts/shocks?

@RickyJnum1FAN

3 жыл бұрын

@@brianjburrows8967 yeah

@brianjburrows8967

3 жыл бұрын

@@RickyJnum1FAN that may be why you have a stiff ride. The stock struts are not designed for the lowering springs. I noticed a big change in ride quality when I used struts/shocks engineering for lowering springs.

@RickyJnum1FAN

3 жыл бұрын

@@brianjburrows8967 That's why I want to get the H&R OE springs, I feel those would work best with the factory dampers. I also have DCC so isn't it a waster to get rid of those shocks for static ones?

Thanks for the video! I have a ‘18 GTI with the Eibach Pro Kit springs on stock struts. Had them installed less than a month after buying the car in August of this year. I figured that I’d get at least 75k miles before the ride quality goes, but it’s tough to know since it degrades so gradually.

@Russellscottx

5 жыл бұрын

I'd be happy with 75K! Thanks for watching!

@iiVzBuRa

5 жыл бұрын

@@Russellscottx just hit 77k on my 2015 mk7 and suspension/steering is still great with stock suspension so expect them to last wayyy longer

@airuzair2424

2 жыл бұрын

@@iiVzBuRa how is it now

Using Lowering Springs with Stock Ride height struts/shocks only ADDs lowering of the vehicle's center of gravity. The part that is detracted are the further travel down of the struts/springs by that (on avg 1"). Advantages: Accelerating & Braking / Disadvantages: decreased cornering and ride quality.

“Hardly ever get on my car that much” 😂😂😂😂😂 *Shows video of giving a Stang the beans 😂😂😂

My car has 178,000 km (110,000 miles).. is it worth just doing the eibach pro kit springs alone? Or would you recommend new shocks/struts or coilovers? Thanks!

@stevenbenitez1851

3 жыл бұрын

Get a whole new system in, your suspension has been through 110k miles of beatings, putting any sort of stress on old suspension is risky

please dont put lowering springs on stock struts on a car with 100k beacuse the struts will be blown

@trevorbuckley4574

3 жыл бұрын

Sound like you have experience lmao

Let’s go Mountaineers!!!

What tires are you running?

Lowering springs on stock strut/shocks will essentially shorten their lifespan or outright kill them. A mild drop might not do much damage immediately if at all, but the lower those drop heights are the faster that ticking time-bomb ticks. . . People act like they can't save a buck, spending it now, or later still equates to spending, the difference is doing it right once so you can tinker with other stuff, like painting your calipers red for that extra 10HP, lmao..

Lol so I’m watching the video and then realize your driving downtown grove city 😆

What about the creaks or squeeks? Have you encountered any in the winter or rainy days?

@Russellscottx

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe a little here and there nothing too bad though!

@robmilligan1851

4 жыл бұрын

been running my Eibach Sports on Audi A4 for about 15k miles, no issues whatsoever!

Hey man. What's the wheel set up besides the springs?

@Russellscottx

5 жыл бұрын

18x8 +32 235/40/18

@euph31

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man. Love how it looks. I'm debating between 19s or 18s with a drop.

I have the Eibach pro-kit on a 2016 Sportwagen, and after 5k km, I agree with you that the ride quality is really decent. Little squeeks here and there at low speed, especially with cold weather, but nothing that sounds annoying to me.

@Russellscottx

5 жыл бұрын

Cool cool my man! Thanks for watching!

@ericwatler23

Жыл бұрын

I have the eibach spring with the struts on my car. It drives really bad over bumps and bumpy roads what kind of struts are you using . At 57 years old I like hot ride but I do not want a bumpy harsh ride. What struts do you use . when you lower your car is there’s nothing you can do to get a stock ride when lowered

i have a 2006 Acura TSX on stock suspension. I want to get TruHart lowering springs because i only want the car lowered 1-2 inches and am not slamming it or getting camber. Any feedback or suggestions?

@Russellscottx

3 жыл бұрын

1-2 inches is a good height, gets rid of the stock 4x4 look, if they have good reviews I’d say go for it!

I'm doing this today on a Honda fit. Hopefully I made the rite decision. It's only a 1.5 inch drop on d2 racing springs.. edit, my fit only has 11k miles on it... I think I'll be just fine.

@abhinavviswanadh5591

2 жыл бұрын

Any updates? How is it going ?

@Osten714

2 жыл бұрын

Do me a favor and blow that car up

This guy waffles like hell!

@Russellscottx

3 жыл бұрын

Is that good or bad 😂😂

@joetherookie3180

3 жыл бұрын

@@Russellscottx lol... Naah don't mind long vids you were just all over the place. But ja its unfair to judge an old vid. Stay safe.👍

You're saying stock struts, does your car have DCC? Thinking about changing my '16 GTI PP which has 20k on the clock to Eibach Sportline...

@Russellscottx

5 жыл бұрын

My car does not have the dcc! Drop her down it’s overdue

@germancarcollector

5 жыл бұрын

@@Russellscottx I'm very half half. I've had the car for 1 year and put 250miles on it. Using it a lot more now and love it, it's a good daily from my E93 M3 DCT LCI. However, I may change the GTI for a RS5 or should I just have fun and drop it, clubsport kit and remap and catless exhaust.... hmmm. Anyways good video and a good insight to what I will be doing potentially...

Glad to hear an update because i was curious about this. I called a place to ask what they would charge to install lowering springs, he said you dont want to do that, youll be replacing control arms and all this other shit and then quoted me 7 or 800 to do it. Glad to hear thats bullshit.

@Russellscottx

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s a bunch of bs...he probably just didn’t want to do the job then quoted you a high price so you wouldn’t do it...

What if I bought brand new OEM suspension and put lowering springs on them before I even put them on the car? Brand new never been on a car before vs putting lowering springs on shocks with like over 100k

@BloomfieldProductions

2 жыл бұрын

2003 Toyota Camry Le

We need a point of view drive In your gti man nice vid btw

@Russellscottx

5 жыл бұрын

The people have spoken! lol I'll make one soon maybe some other people wanna see one too.

@greyanderson1263

5 жыл бұрын

@@Russellscottx your gti videos are why i come back!

@Russellscottx

5 жыл бұрын

@@greyanderson1263 Appreciate it!

I liked the APR chart....

@Russellscottx

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you haha

MK8 Golf R!!!!!!!!! GID IT

What kind of wheels u got

hahahaha those comments on the APR pic

@Russellscottx

5 жыл бұрын

#where'sTeddy

Can you do an update on this?

Whta about the kw springs

Did you get a steel oil pan? Im about to install the sportlines and worried about cracking the plastic oil pan on a bump or road debris.

@We_laugh0420

3 жыл бұрын

I’m late on this comment. But I have my car in this same setup stock shocks with eibach sport springs and about 8 months ago I was going downtown (Toronto Canada) I hit a massive pothole and hit my plastic pan and left all my oil on the stormy snow ridden roads. Ended up putting in and got an aluminum oil pan. Mainly because no steels was available at the time. If you haven’t upgraded pans my whole point is upgrade lol.

With coilovers do they also damage struts n shocks in the long run? New to this whole car scene lmao still lots of learning to do

@red2g

4 жыл бұрын

A coilover typically comes in a package where the sleeve is sitting on top of the shock itself with a spring. A decent set of coilovers will run you about $1500. Now, they do sell coilover sleeves with a spring on their own. This way you can choose what shock you run, but if you use ground control sleeves on stock shocks the ride might be shitty. They GC's will also blow out the stock shocks. You need a shock that will be able to handle the springrate of those ground controls, like the Koni Yellow. Choosing a coilover sleeve/shock combo that's quality will perform way better than a coilover brand like ksport, or bc. It's usually more expensive though. If you're just doing spirited driving on the streets, a good shock and something like h&r springs is going to ride great and not be that expensive.

@jvee1

4 жыл бұрын

@@red2g forsure man thanks so much for breaking it down for me I appreciate it 💯

Wtf is the stock shocks good for lower springs??? Still waiting

will those spring you have fit a mk7 golf r?

@Russellscottx

5 жыл бұрын

I believe so but I would double check what eibach says!

@jorgeparamo13

5 жыл бұрын

@@Russellscottx appreciate it man

Aren’t you mad our GTIs don’t come in a 2dr option

@Russellscottx

5 жыл бұрын

Lol they're cool but i think I like my 4door more :X

thanks man, I've been looking into lowering springs, but my friends say it's a bad idea and save up for coilovers, but as a college student I won't be able to afford it. thanks for the help

@Russellscottx

5 жыл бұрын

My springs sit exactly where I would set the coilovers at! Unless you're racing I don't think they're a necessity! $250 vs $2k no brainer!

@coreyfreeman6226

5 жыл бұрын

you don't need 2k for a daily driver...there's ton of decent options under $1000,i have God speed mono max and they're better than most for $850 for a daily.i'll never do springs again only....waste of money.Do it right the first time.trust me.if you know proper handling,lowering springs on stock shocks is a no go.

@14kk53

3 жыл бұрын

LUKE FUK UR FRIEND DO WHAT YOU WANT MATE

Should I save up for coil overs or lowering springs?

@aquaticasmr184

5 жыл бұрын

Depends how much you want to spend. Is it a daily just get raceland coilovers If you want it lowered but not slammed then springs will probably work

GC, PA...Waaaaaaa

What's with the apr dyno in the background?

@Russellscottx

5 жыл бұрын

Did you watch the whole video????

@michaelblanco1549

5 жыл бұрын

@@Russellscottx nah I thought I had guess i made little over half

Dude your collar! It keeps falling down wtf

8 min. long opinion...

Flipping cameras is a waste of time you need to think bigger. Flipping houses would be the most obvious and potentially the most profitable

@Russellscottx

5 жыл бұрын

True but that takes a lot of up front capital...The $70 for less than an hour of work is more than I make at my job so not to much of a waste of time to me.

@tomdoe1234

5 жыл бұрын

MedicMagic okay money no investment???? Got it gigolo

you dont get my subscribe because all you do is talk no action