You've become such an authority in my brain that it makes me wonder if I'd been saying "fitment" incorrectly my whole life

@mdkrush

3 жыл бұрын

You say it right. He says it wrong. lol

That really makes the 3 look outstanding. It looked good to begin with, but now it's in another league .

The 3 looks really good. The ride hight is perfect. Nice job man. 5 commercials in less than 10 minutes is too much. KZread needs to knock off their shit!

@THExKINGxKINGx

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not KZread. It’s the content creators that determine how much ads they want on their videos…

That's really nice i like the simply clean setup you have with your 3

Dragtimes Great Video I'm glad your Tesla Model 3 Performance is handling way better after you got some Lowering Springs and Sway Bars and It looks Awesome

eibach stance is my favorite for lowering springs on the Model 3. Good choice.

Hello Brooks, new subscriber here. Looks like you’re in South Florida... I’m local as well in Ft. Lauderdale! Love your content man, great attention to detail, amazing choice of cars, and a true class act.

The wheels and lowering make it look fantastic!

@mocheen4837

3 жыл бұрын

I have the same wheels and am looking to lower my car now.

@APRNVJ

2 жыл бұрын

What wheels are that?

@THExKINGxKINGx

2 жыл бұрын

@@APRNVJ T sportline

Having done competitive autocross for years, every weekend, never once have I seen a car get quicker from progressive lowering springs. I've seen hundreds of people say it feels better, but never seen it the cars actually go quicker. Usually it is worse as the suspension just can't work great when it is lower and not also a lot stiffer. On the other hand when people get linear rate racing coilovers, often massive improvements result. But it is bumpy! In this case, The DragTimes guy made 4 changes at once (wheels, tires, swaybars, and springs). Sway bars make *profound* changes in how a car feels, and sometimes in how quick it is too, sometimes not. Almost always feels more fun though. Tires are always the #1 thing for autocross lap times, aggressive alignment (max out negative camber) usually #2 thing. The 2g cornering improvement here is exactly what one would expect from the tire change made alone. Corollas will pull about 1.4gs with those tires. But lap times are about more than steady state cornering Gs!

I also had the full Eibach Pro-Plus kit on my 2018 Model 3 LR RWD which included the springs and sway bar set. IMO the car absolutely handled better and looked better with the Eibach setup, but here's why the user experience will vary, the key here is your base model car.... The full Performance Model 3 comes from the factory with a lower suspension (-1") and different tuned dampers for that drop than a RWD or standard Dual Motor car and because of this IMO the rebound effect is different depending on the vehicle type. I found that the Eibach setup in my 2018 LR RWD ride quality was about OEM with big road bumps, actually feeling less harsh than stock, but the rebound effect or hop got a bit old after a while. Also note that Eibach more recently modified the design of their rear sway bars to include lateral locks or stops so that the bar cannot slide within the bushings. I had my original bar replaced at no cost after contacting Eibach and them informing me of the V2 bar. Anyways, my setting for the LR RWD was middle hole on the front bar and outside (softer) hole on the rear bar. Tried the inside tighter hole in the rear for a bit ( yeah that's what he said haha) but found it added a bit too much road noise and rigidity so I reverted. Also good to know is that with this mild 1" drop you're alignment can be adjusted within factory specs or at least very close to not need any additional hardware such as camber arms, but you'll definitely want an alignment done after a few hundred miles AFTER install as the springs absolutely do settle over a few weeks. I took fender to ground measurements to prove it day of install and about 500mi later. Long story short (or maybe not so short), after selling the 2018 (with the Eibach suspension installed) and upgrading to the 2019 DM Stealth Performance would I go the Eibach route again? I would say I will PASS :( I'm just enjoying the OEM ride comfort more than the improved handling and cosmetic appeal. But as mentioned, if your base vehicle is the full Performance or P3D+ the Eibach setup will likely work out better for you with little to no ill effects. Hope this real world experience might be helpful to others on their aftermarket Tesla adventure or on the fence between lowering on springs alone or not. The proper alternative for all other models would be coilovers (UP/MPP/KW) which include tuned or adjustable dampers and matched springs to combat the negatives described above, but it'll come at a cost of about 4-5X that of springs alone.

Hey Brooks. I went the “lowering spring” route with the Unplugged springs, but I’ve gotta day, they beat up your stock suspension. My rear shock eventually failed. Also, ride was quite rough. I swapped out the suspension with MPP Coil Over setup. Not cheap... but Amazing! I made a video about it. I’ll post below.

@jimwheeler6094

4 жыл бұрын

Should that say MPP instead of MMP?

@sooocheesy

4 жыл бұрын

The Model 3 stock suspension is a bit bumpy, but I've always wondered which coil overs were the better option - MPP vs UP. There's fanboys either way when you read the forums, mostly because everyone who buys something always thinks they made a good choice (presuming they don't totally suck)

@shootmedia2155

4 жыл бұрын

Jim Wheeler Thx Jim! Yes indeed. Just made the tweak.

@shootmedia2155

4 жыл бұрын

Brian Good question. I haven’t experienced the coil over system from Unplugged, but can definitively state that the MPP setup gets The Model 3 closer to Euro spec handling (M3/C63AMG) levels. The biggest difference are the dampening and rebound. Night and day.

@BLACK05GO1

4 жыл бұрын

I don't own a Telsa, but I also went the "lower springs" route (even a small drop) on my Camaro SS (which A LOT of teens and younger drivers seem to think is "good" or "rides great" ride quality on the street (same exact drop springs), but for me (not a kids anymore) the ride was way too rough. I also went with fully adjustable (24 settings) coil overs, and they were substantially better. But I eventually ( set my car up for drag racing -my real hobby) took the coil overs out, and I couldn't believe how smooth my car rode (stock suspension). So the average person needs to think very hard before putting lowering springs or even coil overs on their "family car." Again, if it's a track car (you're serious about real track racing) then do whatever works best for your track setup.

If you take off the inner liner and use something like dynamat (you don't even need to do the entire thing, just roughly 25% of the area), you will be using constraned-layer damping to prevent it from rattling due to the added mass.

Yay it's here!

the car looks awesome can't wait for your next post on the strip

Nice review - just seeing the lowering that has been done to my car and comparing

I did T Sportline springs. Really want those sway bars next

Those wheels look so much better and it's sitting better lower too. How's ground clearance? Hitting/scraping on anything you weren't before?

Love the wing!

Looks great !

looks really good!👌🏼

Great video! How’s the ride after the springs? I’m thinking about doing the same setup, but worried that the ride will become more bouncy

Love this car. You can’t go wrong for the money and it’s super fast. Model 3 Performance the way to go. Can’t wait until this Model 3 ludicrous car to come out 2024 ⚡️⚡️⚡️😎

Looks great. Wondering why you went with the unplugged sway bars over the Eibach ones given the Eibach springs. Do you know of a difference between the two?

Looks great! I just sold the stock 20" and put on grey turbine 18" on my Model 3 Performance. Cheaper, more comfortable and a bit lighter than the stock 20". Sway bars and lowering would be neat, but I think seats with more side support would be an even greater upgrade.

@andydelvalle68

4 жыл бұрын

Are your 18” turbine wheels from Tesla?

@MrTaliz

4 жыл бұрын

Andydv68 no, from Khan.

@ao-up9mw

2 жыл бұрын

Seats w more support >>>>>

Thank God your wheel & Tire installer did such a great job on that balance 😊

Thanks for the in depth video. Are you still running this setup, with stock shocks? If so, how have you found the Eibach springs.

Awesome dude thanks, look forward to tryin these out. Links to springs? Link to Signature?

It looks good. I would add the carbon wing and the other carbon bits the guy showed you, that carbon glovebox was kind of sick.

that "fittiment" is on point

Nice setup! How do you think the springs are driving in somewhat bad road conditions... like around a major city? I’m trying to figure out if the springs will handle well with the stock shocks or would they bottom out on bad roads.

Looks gorgeous! What disk parameters do you have ?

Great..... unexpectedly good!

Please don’t install that huge wing on your clean Model 3.

Hi. How big is the gap on the front and rear AFTER the install? Great video btw!!

Model 3 looks good lowered, especially with that wheel combo. The RXT is looking sweet. Looking forward to the SeaDoo tests and drag race with the Yamaha!

Brooks, Tali sson said it correctly. I think you need better seats to hold you in place with the higher G forces. Probably similar to your 720 S. I like my seats mounted lower than stock to keep me where I do not struggle with the steering in very hard L/R corners. Great videos!

Hey when you guys do get to the Taycan vs S can you please do some 1/2 mile with full charge and some 1/4 at 50 percent really wanna see the performance differences? The S has a 17 percent more useable battery, a lot more power and lighter weight vs the Taycan with that second gear and would be really interesting how much performance drops between the two when they're not fully charged and prepped for sprints. Be safe..

Did you manage to get some timings after the modification with the springs and lighter battery plus rims? Compared to the stock timing?

Very nice fit-ta-mint!

Coilovers is the way to go. You get a very rough ride when you lower with just the springs.

Very Tastefully done looks good

Didn't it already have sway bars stock? If yes, do you know the difference (more than " They are stiffer" ? Thanks, (Awesome video BTW)

Man that blue is gorgeous! What color is that blue wrap?

I never thought of seeing Brooks modifying his car

Can you list your tires, size, cost and spring costs? Nice setup too. That shop looks expensive but top notch.

You gotta test your model 3 against the track pack for a proper comparison

Were you able to have the alignment corrected and in spec after lowering without having to purchase aftermarket adjustable camber/toe links?

Hi Brooks, I really like your wheels. Also, you should get that rear wing, I heard it adds 45 bhp...butt-dyno horsepower.

UPP sways, any reason over Eibach? Deal, sponsor, choice? UPP also has super low springs put removes from menu when perf model picked.

Hey Brooks, great video again, Just a question, do you thing the angle of the drive shaft matters for the performance, hence lowering the height will change the angle to the wheel (may be positively) ?

@Mouwcat

2 жыл бұрын

Driveshaft?

Can't wait to see the jet skis blast to 60 mph, go safely!

Track time maybe? I think a second a lap minimum is expected in med to long track.

Eibach, nice choice , for me best 👍.

Might want to do MPP big brakes to drop weight in the axels a bit more.

Any differences in alignment after bolting it all on? More camber?

Love the colour of Jason's Model S performance. Is that a custom paint job? Which colour is it? Also does he have a channel/Instagram where I can see it a bit better?

Can you add link to the wheels that are on the car? I like them a lot

@dragtimes why didn't you go with the sway bars from Eibach?

Nice. My brother did some mods on his rxp 300hp

Any specific reason for the Eibach springs? I was thinking about ordering the unplugged performance moderate springs for my performance model 3.

What are the chances the lowering springs screws with your warranty?

Hi there I am from Recife in Brazil South America, love your channel, don’t you have to get bilstein b8s installed?

Thx for the video ( got me dizzy 🥴) lol Are you running a staggered fitment? I like that exact height for front and rear 👍😎

@DragTimes

4 жыл бұрын

no, 20x8.5 and 245/35/20 all around...

@gust9464

4 жыл бұрын

DragTimes looks good. Stay safe

I’m getting a really bad “clunk” noise on hard braking in my m3p. Ever get that before?

How is the ride after the replacement springs?

I was hoping you would do a Model s Raven be Taycan drag race as you are a trusted source I haven’t seen anyone legitimately race the two yet wondering when someone will post something

Nice! The overall stance of the car looks perfect. Any issues going over speed bumps?

@DragTimes

4 жыл бұрын

clears speed bumps easily...

It’s Pat!!!

How much camber shows up after the drop and correcting the alignment?

Hi Brooks, aside from the tires, do you think the lowering springs played a big part in making the car feel more planted around the corner or is it mainly the sway bars?

@rjatesblogs6855

2 жыл бұрын

both sway and springs you'll feel a huge difference while driving. only down fall is you'll feel more of the road

Nice

What size tires and wheels you have on now?

It's all good then!

Definitely the carbon wing!!!

Just got a 2020 model 3 does lowering the car void the warranty?

Do you know if they trimmed the bump stops?

Nice. Would be interesting to see that wing and front bumper kit installed. It’s the one thing that puts me off Tesla is they look so dated (I know the speed and tech makes up but hey I like my car to look good too 😆)

Why didn’t you go Eibach sways as well?

Hey Brooks I just want to suggest another type of content Can you do some Dragy and Vbox runs from your cars on street? especially the trio of Huracan, 720S and GT MKII

You should check out DAErik Model 3 ran a faster time in Japan then a McLaren F1 on an F1 track. I don't know if you seen that video.

Hi, could you share your wheel sizing and Offset please?

Are the eibachs significantly lighter than oem springs?

How do you find the ride compared to stock please fella?

I wanted to know how much would it cost to wrap a Tesla Model Y?

Any camber issues lowering these cars?

Any issues with the springs now?

@vicious9250

2 жыл бұрын

yo its my gfuel guy

Which rims ? Are those the Tesla track rims?

Too bad you did not run the test without the sway bars... btw what’s the weight of sway bars?

Man... you're tempting me to go buy a T.Y. !!!!

is there a brand and colour code for that blue wrap?

Now Brooks. What can you do to the Plaid to break into the 8 second quarter mile.....Seems to be a race on between the twin turbo C8 Corvettes (9.01 best so far and the Plaid which runs a best of 9.14 not gutted and a 9.08 gutted) If anyone can find the answer it should be YOU!

Does this effect range?

I can't find these wheels on the tsportline website

great vid, but for the love of god, please do some clockwise circles. my OCD was in full spaz mode!!!! lol

Soon as I saw this title, I was interested. The scary thing is, with the battery sitting at the bottom, dropped Teslas always grab my attention.

Get the wing!! It would make it look better

Get that awesome rear wing.

I'd be curious if you're buying a Taycan Turbo S or a Performance S in the future?

@Liberty_Prime199

4 жыл бұрын

Brooks will never get the Taycan, he's practically a Tesla salesman at this point xD

Sawgrass Mills?

Hi, what size rims do you have?