Low Profile Graphics Cards comparison for Windows XP Retro Gaming on Small Form Factor Pre Built PCs

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  • @Synthematix
    @Synthematix3 жыл бұрын

    Phil your videos are the BEST on youtube, all realist benchmarks with meaningful content instead of £2000 cpus and £800 motherboards. this is for people here on planet earth that actually use such realistic priced machines daily.

  • @richardbryan5022
    @richardbryan50226 жыл бұрын

    Glad I found you bud. I,m in the middle of just building the same rig running XP. Graphics card is next, so this vid has been a great help. Love how clear and in-depth your vids are. thank you.

  • @hate_mate7054
    @hate_mate70546 жыл бұрын

    I really respect the effort you put in your videos. I wish i could send you some stuff to test. But Germany to Australia is hell in terms of packaging.

  • @MrJohnLongbow

    @MrJohnLongbow

    4 жыл бұрын

    Considering his accent I assume he is in Germany then? 😜

  • @natejennings5884

    @natejennings5884

    3 жыл бұрын

    I keep an old GT 730 2GB (Zotac fanless) around as a backup card. Because it's low profile and has only a 23W power draw I call it "ol' reliable". I use a GT 1030 2GB (30W) in my sff "Linux box", and a GTX 1050 Ti 4GB full sized (75W) in my Windows 10 tower. The late nights with my GT 730 playing L4D2 and CS Source, oh the memories...

  • @hyperxtamim9070

    @hyperxtamim9070

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrJohnLongbow phils lives in Australia

  • @retro_gamer_uk

    @retro_gamer_uk

    2 жыл бұрын

    I read that as Germany to Austria 😂.

  • @theshadowman1398
    @theshadowman13984 жыл бұрын

    Very much appreciate this video, I was on the hunt for the right low profile card for my dedicated windows XP rig. Thanks.

  • @kicsibee
    @kicsibee5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video helped me a lot to decide what card to buy.

  • @FranThirdStrike
    @FranThirdStrike6 жыл бұрын

    nice vid . you deserve more subs and views for sure

  • @kevinramos9587
    @kevinramos95875 жыл бұрын

    Dude this video explained exactly what I wanted to know! I took notes! Thanks a ton!

  • @HeyImGaminOverHere
    @HeyImGaminOverHere6 жыл бұрын

    I love Radeon cards and I had the same findings where most are all around the same performance. Wonderfully put together round up Phil! 🙂

  • @carrocesta
    @carrocesta4 жыл бұрын

    thanks a lot for this video, I really love your channel!!!

  • @wganz
    @wganz3 жыл бұрын

    do appreciate the work you put into this. it helped me immensely

  • @letsnerdout9178
    @letsnerdout91786 жыл бұрын

    I was looking for a video like this for months. With a PC like this

  • @stevepeck6658
    @stevepeck66585 жыл бұрын

    Hello from the U.S.! This is EXACTLY the info I have been looking for! Super well done! Thank you sir!

  • @konstantine_c
    @konstantine_c2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video! Very detailed and informative. Using a Radeon HD 7470 in my retro-gaming station Small Form Factor Dell 9010. Pretty happy with it. Definitely worth the $5 I paid at a local electronics recycling outlet. For the most part it has pretty good compatibility with older games, on Windows 7.

  • @S2kDude36
    @S2kDude363 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, thanks for posting!

  • @AungusMacgyver
    @AungusMacgyver4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great guide! It's still helpful in 2020.

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad it helped!

  • @soumyajitdeb3943
    @soumyajitdeb39436 жыл бұрын

    Lovely video. I didn't know I had one of the better cards out there! I use an i3 2100, a mini itx asus h77 board and a GT 730 in my winxp retro. Works beautifully!

  • @malikdvp1
    @malikdvp14 жыл бұрын

    I was looking for good VGA options for my PC, and stumbled upon this video and guess what, instant sub 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 Great thorough work.

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    Welcome aboard!

  • @CharcharoExplorer
    @CharcharoExplorer6 жыл бұрын

    Great video!

  • @georgemaragos2378
    @georgemaragos23786 жыл бұрын

    Hi All, dam i missed this video release last night and just flicking through it while having a coffee at work. Nice work on the variety of cards. I have read all the comments to now, and i just need to add that the HP8200 and I5-2400 is a bit modern for a retro computer, but the beauty of these machines is that they are plentiful and cheap, also they wont really have the capacitor plague problem. I purchased one of these machines after watching Phils video almost 12 months ago, it was originally set up with fresh windows 10 and i used dos box for the older games. Since then i have reformatted the hard drive , installed Dos 6.22 on the first partition, Win XP on the second and Win 10 on the third. Obviously old dos games will run but the speed sensitive will not even doom 1 and 2 crashes as the clock speed is to fast but that is what Zdaemon is for as well as the fan made recompiled windows versions of Duke Nukem and Command and Conquer engines. Back to the point, having a modern machine that can play the older win95-XP games is a excellent proposition, my machine has the GT1030 SFF card, but for XP i just use the standard VGA drivers it is a bit of a compromise as i might as well be using the onboard video chip, but the GT1030 is great for when using Win10 When i get home i will watch it all and also listen to it. Regards George

  • @TAnimations
    @TAnimations5 жыл бұрын

    I have the And Radeon Hd 8570 with this same exact PC. I love my build and I am planning on buying more games in the future. I love your Hp Elite 8200 videos. They are super high quality and amazing!

  • @bigfellaism
    @bigfellaism3 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy my amd 7570 GDDR5! I found it for only $20 CAD and it's great for older games using windows 7 as well. My Steam and GOG games run really well. The Ghostbusters game from 2009 runs so smoothly. On emulators, it's really fast with my i5 2400. Windows XP was an excellent OS as well. I ran it on an older laptop for 4-5 years that came with Vista. XP was made for older games.

  • @luluzeus

    @luluzeus

    2 жыл бұрын

    hi ,run sfv with this card video hd 7570 bro?

  • @Koldatt

    @Koldatt

    2 жыл бұрын

    HD 7570 1gb gddr5 - i5 2400 - 8gb ram Same setup as yours, i can BARELY run apex legends but almost all of my other games like arma 3 space engine and civ6 run just fine

  • @GadgetUK164
    @GadgetUK1646 жыл бұрын

    Love the vids - keep them coming =D

  • @memphisweyant5201
    @memphisweyant52014 жыл бұрын

    This is a great video, I wanted some more information on a low profile GPU for my HP t610 plus. Planning to use it for older games.

  • @KARAOTI23
    @KARAOTI236 жыл бұрын

    You have practically convinced me to keep my GTX750 2gb for ever!

  • @jani11

    @jani11

    3 жыл бұрын

    absolutely not. sell it to me :)

  • @nekaroamemiya

    @nekaroamemiya

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lucky bastard

  • @KARAOTI23

    @KARAOTI23

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nekaroamemiya lol I've exchanged it a couple months back with an HD3870X2 and a GTX550Ti. I figured it wasn't a real 750 (performed like one though) but a 650Ti with a 750 bios; brand was Afox (beware).

  • @nekaroamemiya

    @nekaroamemiya

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KARAOTI23 hmm I've seen that one before. Yea I've heard of last gen-Ti flash to next gen regular versions before. Same thing with Radeon Rx cards. Now in my main rig is ryzen 7-3700X 32GB ram with rtx2060. Best deal I ever had. Traded a 1050ti for a 2060 before this whole price increase. People called me an idiot fit buying rtx2000 series when rtx3000 series was gonna launch.

  • @nekaroamemiya

    @nekaroamemiya

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KARAOTI23 onda,hunanzhi avox yellow Nvidia, kiv gotta watch out

  • @kekistanifreedomfighter4197
    @kekistanifreedomfighter41974 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate the effort you put into these videos. The optiplex I have with an i7 3770 & Radeon 7470 gets GPU bound in most 3D games & emulators. Great for media playback though!

  • @nicholledcaasi6715

    @nicholledcaasi6715

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wtf same PC I'm watching this because I'm looking for good low profile GPU so it can fit in my PC

  • @virtualtools_3021

    @virtualtools_3021

    4 жыл бұрын

    7570 can be had for less than 15 bucks on ebay, at least last time i checked. I use it to play War Thunder and get 75-85 fps even at 1080p! (with minimum settings, however it still looks decent)

  • @DennisRamberg
    @DennisRamberg6 жыл бұрын

    Hi Phil, great video like always! I really enjoy the thorough analysis you do in these kinds of tests. One thing I would like to point out, which can perhaps be a topic worth exploring in the future, is that Nvidia cards usually have far less cpu utilization over OpenGL and DirectX8-11 than AMD. Although I really like AMD, their architecture definitely shines the best with newer APIs like Vulkan or DX12. But building retro gaming PCs however, Nvidia has always had the edge when it comes to removing CPU and memory bandwidth bottle-necking, since their DirectX and OpenGL implementation has always been far more efficient on software side of things. The reason for this is basically that GPU instructions are constantly checked with the CPU main thread on these older APIs. (OpenGL being even worse than DX11) This wasn't really a problem with high clocked single- or dual-core CPUs when most people were running 480p-768p, but as graphics hardware grew stronger, our screen resolutions larger, the main thread got much easier filled up with GPU-instruction checks. Especially since these low profile systems tend to have lower clocked CPUs. Because of this nvidia is usually a safer bet when creating retro systems if you want to get the most out of your CPU. Unfortunately I have no experience in this matter when it comes to Windows XP. But perhaps it's worth checking out.

  • @philscomputerlab
    @philscomputerlab6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all the great feedback and tips. It made me write a dedicate page on our website for this project. It will allow me to add more cards in the future :D Here is the link: www.philscomputerlab.com/low-profile-video-cards-xp.html

  • @mattpierce5009
    @mattpierce50096 жыл бұрын

    I love the 7570 for budget huilds, it's usually about half the price of a GT 730 (in the US anyhow) and they overclock fairly well. Nice roundup Phil.

  • @retromaniac4563

    @retromaniac4563

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Dell OEM HD7570 1GB ddr5 shows only 800Mhz for the memory clock. It should be 1000MHz per AMD specs. Did Dell underclock their cards and should they be safe to overclock atleast to 1000Mhz? I have one in a Dell Optiplex 360 at the moment.

  • @virtualtools_3021

    @virtualtools_3021

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@retromaniac4563 Mine overclocks to 930 at any temps and 1040 (won't let me set it higher) in a cold environment (5C ambient with ridiculously high airflow) core wont go above 725 without artifacting

  • @nfarhaan
    @nfarhaan4 жыл бұрын

    Very detailed video. 👍

  • @yoshi314
    @yoshi3146 жыл бұрын

    i got a low profile 750ti last year. the card still holds up very well - even with recent games (although nothing high-end). quite possibly best purchase for its price.

  • @amalsankar8522

    @amalsankar8522

    5 жыл бұрын

    Could u send me the link for it in Ali express

  • @virtualtools_3021

    @virtualtools_3021

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@amalsankar8522 could u use search for it in the google

  • @amalsankar8522

    @amalsankar8522

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@virtualtools_3021 dude the comment itself is 1 year old and I've already bought a gt1030 and it does the work on 768p 🤷

  • @lukassbeataddicts

    @lukassbeataddicts

    4 жыл бұрын

    Impossible to find in low profile this days.

  • @virtualtools_3021

    @virtualtools_3021

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@lukassbeataddicts 7570 is one of the cheapest and easiest to find low profile cards. i know its not as good as a 750 ti but for retro games it does very well.

  • @SinCityAMG
    @SinCityAMG4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for making this video. Just bought another Dell Optiplex 980 and this one is specifically for XP gaming. Just got tired of trying to make old XP games work on Win 10.

  • @reyxin_gajetmy
    @reyxin_gajetmy3 жыл бұрын

    Nice video bro. Iloveit

  • @CarlosSMOfficial
    @CarlosSMOfficial6 жыл бұрын

    I do recall there are more low profile cards, for example there are some R7 250s in that form, also HD 7750 low profile as well

  • @jonchapman6821

    @jonchapman6821

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have a low profile, GTS450 still going strong in an old 775 system, it’s significantly better than many of the cards in this video.

  • @blunderingfool
    @blunderingfool4 жыл бұрын

    Oh! I have one of those Single Slot Low Profile HD7750s. Proper little trooper it was, sits on my shelf now.

  • @giserson2
    @giserson24 жыл бұрын

    Another gpu worth considering is the firepro v3800, it's basically a hd 5570 and can be had for super cheap on ebay, it should perform somewhere around or better than the quadro 600 and other GF108 gpus and absolutely blows any Caicos (hd 64xx/74xx/84xx) gpu out of the water. It's a good choice for those with motherboards that run pcie x8 cards at x1 speed, like a dell optiplex 360.

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the tip, I'll keep an eye out for one!

  • @baswalpot
    @baswalpot5 жыл бұрын

    Hey Phil. Love your videos man. Your efforts and enthousiasm really shine through. Will you be testing any of the new gen. 1650 lp cards? Perhaps a 1650 oc lp or even better as soon as available a 1650 ti lp. Grtz.

  • @kaczan3
    @kaczan34 жыл бұрын

    If these cards want to keep a low prifle, why do they have such flashy colors? :3

  • @SUCRA

    @SUCRA

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol!

  • @leolifestyle6470

    @leolifestyle6470

    4 жыл бұрын

    They are meant for smaller cases

  • @johnphillips4783

    @johnphillips4783

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@leolifestyle6470 you missed the joke dude.

  • @user-uq3um5nq7d

    @user-uq3um5nq7d

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@leolifestyle6470 Low profile as in unnoticeable

  • @johncollins5552
    @johncollins55524 жыл бұрын

    You videos are the most informative, my idea of retro means agp cards not PCI/E 😀

  • @peterharband326
    @peterharband3265 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Dr Phil.

  • @lukassbeataddicts
    @lukassbeataddicts4 жыл бұрын

    Great video, I need low profile so definitely gonna give GT 730 another look. Great score in Far Cry.

  • @EscapeVelo
    @EscapeVelo6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Phil! This is awesome! What is of particular interest to me is the comparison of the Radeon HD 7750 and the HD 7570 (both with 1GB of GDDR5). This is a very close direct comparison of the AMD Graphics Core Next architecture vs AMD Terrascale architecture. I also just picked up two matching EVGA 8800 GT Superclocked 512MB single slot cards to run in SLI. Which is era appropriate and will perform about like the 60 FPS group, maybe a little better. I use the 750 Ti 2GB for modern gaming. It's still relevant for modern gaming.

  • @rd946

    @rd946

    6 жыл бұрын

    They may perform worse... 2x the cards doesn't mean 2x the frame rates. It's not always about throughput, it's the increasingly powerful GPU's of the newer generations.

  • @ARANBANJO75
    @ARANBANJO75 Жыл бұрын

    all i need is in this video thanks a lot

  • @larissatuttokompletti9120
    @larissatuttokompletti91205 жыл бұрын

    Hi Phil, I love your really informative, premium-presented content very much & you've helped me out in several cases to choice parts for my Retro-System-building. I'm hoping now, that I can give you an advice for the GTX 750 in low profile format for the HP SFF and it's weak PSU from my own experience: Don't search for it, because it's not only rare, the available models mainly doesn't fit the HP-specific power-support of the PCI express-slot (only 35W in opposite to the mainly specified 65W). My own, with high expectations bought KFA2 GTX 750 TI OC in low profile format (but 2,5 slots widht, no extra power-cable needed) ran like a racehorse, but in the first benchmarking it frozes my whole PC after only 1,5 minutes or so. No BSOD or error-message, just frozen - only to "shutdown" via unplug the power cable in "the hard way"was possible. I did a little bit investigation and I found out, the "spikes" in power-consumption are too high for the HP-PSU (you know, we have to live with this in such SFF-builds), so that I've to bought another card. Luckily I found a pretty good alternative, the GTX 745 from an OEM-build (in germany called Medion), which will do the job in very good manner. A little bit lower performance, but no freezes of the system and only 1 Slot width. It's offering DVI-I and HDMI only, but who cares about VGA? The best wishes from Germany to the wonderful Australia - keep up the great work, Phil!

  • @SHs-ke4po
    @SHs-ke4po5 жыл бұрын

    Awesome job! Its very helpful and incredible job. Can I use all of the cards in my dell optiplex 3010?

  • @Wushu-viking
    @Wushu-viking6 жыл бұрын

    You do such a good job on your comparison videos Phil. I would like to add... Best and most allround compatible for a SFF PC, I think is the GT 730. Make a note that Some of these older HP's LGA775 SFF boards, dosn't have 75W available on the PCI'E slot. So we want something that only draws about 30W. The GT 730 GDDR5. But if you are sure that the board can deliver 75W, a GTX 750(ti) LP is really good. Say welcome to a Crysis 60pfs PC !

  • @johnspangle6619

    @johnspangle6619

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have a few HP Compaq Elite 6300 SFF machines that only have 25W available to the PCIe x16 slot. It's a shame, because they are quite nice little machines. The best card that I could find for it is the AMD Radeon HD 7450.

  • @andresbravo2003
    @andresbravo20033 ай бұрын

    Probably should be needed for my PC.

  • @templariosgamerYT
    @templariosgamerYT6 жыл бұрын

    Cool video

  • @SUCRA
    @SUCRA4 жыл бұрын

    Great video, still trying to figure out what to get. Anyone can think of something better, but cheaper, than the 8500 GT being low profile?

  • @georgez8859
    @georgez88596 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for all the info Phil, Those Radeon HD7570 are a good buy here in the U.S.

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nice! Yea I can see that, there is a massive market for used workstation parts. For LOLs you can also get CrossFire going, but it was only really good for 3DMark. Games were all over the place.

  • @aarontrupiano9328
    @aarontrupiano9328 Жыл бұрын

    what about a gtx 745? i got one of them today and it seems to be a pretty solid performer. i'd be interested in seeing a review of it someday

  • @Edmundostudios
    @Edmundostudios6 жыл бұрын

    I have a sandy bridge i5 that I still use for gaming now on modern games with no issues.

  • @Shaner9er
    @Shaner9er Жыл бұрын

    hmm would have been neat to see the quadro k2200 on here but awesome video

  • @aarontrupiano9328
    @aarontrupiano9328 Жыл бұрын

    i tried the hd 7570 on my xp computer and i had to manually install the drivers through the device manager. it's really good when it works unfortunately the one i got may be near death because this particular card likes to crash to a solid blue or green screen with relative frequency.

  • @EweToobUsername
    @EweToobUsername2 жыл бұрын

    I wish you would have thrown the AMD Oland cards into this mix. The HD8570, R5 240 and R7 240 would have compared favorably with the GT630/710 and the R7 250 has similar performance to the 7750 but is pretty much guaranteed to be low-profile. I’ve also found the 250 super easy to overclock all the way, safely, with a dual-slot cooler (also easy to find on ebay).

  • @mesterak
    @mesterak Жыл бұрын

    You could add the HD 8570 and potentially some of the K series of Quadro cards…not 100% sure on XP driver availability for all of them but might be worth a look. 😊

  • @cybernet3000
    @cybernet30006 жыл бұрын

    Hey Phil, have you heard Valve is dropping support for Windows XP in Steam at the end of the year? I know a lot of people making Windows XP retro gaming machine have a lot of their old games purchased through Steam, now might need to find alternative sources for all those purchases.

  • @gaeljehnno
    @gaeljehnno2 ай бұрын

    There is also a unobtainium kfa 950 low profile(xp driver on the nvidia website)

  • @prozzac85
    @prozzac856 жыл бұрын

    Very good video! if you have to go low profile I bet this will help people alot :) But me personally I prefer to go with something from the XP time, like a X1800 or X1900 series card from ATI or a high end 7000 or even better a high end 8000 series card. It just makes me feel better when all the parts in the computer match timewise :)

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yea that was the plan. I like how you can't buy anything recent anymore that is XP compatible. Also the form factor and power limits the choices. So it's a nice little project with boundaries. But still lots of cards to explore that I don't have.

  • @rd946

    @rd946

    6 жыл бұрын

    But when you want killer frame rates for period correct games, nothing beats computer "future parts!" I used to be a "period correct" guy, but got tired of paying a premium for lesser hardware. :)

  • @imreqwizz
    @imreqwizz2 жыл бұрын

    How do you install the ones with the shorter thing on the far left pls i need help

  • @romevang
    @romevang3 жыл бұрын

    what's the name of the song you used for the end of the video? i like it, has a good beat to it.

  • @WaybackTECH
    @WaybackTECH6 жыл бұрын

    I have some of these cards, mostly the radeon's kicking around with stuck or missing fans. Interesting the timing since I was just looking at 710's - 750's. There sure are a lot of variants on newegg of the 710 & 730's. I can see why the 750 especially the ti version are still bidding for a pretty penny on ebay.

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Chinese are upgrading their internet cafe / gaming video cards, so there are now legit 750s and other cards making their way onto Chinese online platforms. Those two Gigabyte cards are from AliExpress, I am considering doing a video on this.

  • @timcollins9800
    @timcollins98002 жыл бұрын

    Good video as usual Phil.Are there any more low profile cards that still support XP?I understand 1030 doesn't,t. Does this one R5 340X or any other ones that do? Any under 70 pounds , Unfourynatly my SFF 3020 can only take thin ones because the slot is close to the power supply. Keep up the good work.

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just check AMD and Nvidia driver site to see if there are XP drivers!

  • @SwingLifeAway92
    @SwingLifeAway926 жыл бұрын

    Could you try something like this with amds old fx apus I know they weren't great but just curious.

  • @fcf8269
    @fcf8269Ай бұрын

    how do you put steam on a xp machine? Great roundup of cards. Are those cards full height or half height?

  • @B-A-L
    @B-A-L3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video. I have been looking for a cheap XP gaming pc and found a Dell Optiplex 780 SFF Core 2 quad Q6600 cpu with 4Gb ram, 1Tb hard drive and a 2Gb GT 710 video card for what looks like a reasonable price but keep putting off buying it because of doubts about the GT 710 not being any good for gaming, so I'm glad to see it in this video. Would I have any compatibility problems with earlier XP games though and would Win 95/98 games be out of the picture?

  • @PaulsComputerEmp

    @PaulsComputerEmp

    3 жыл бұрын

    Windows 98/95 on a dual core has problems you will only see 1 core and you will need a modded chipset driver and 512mb RAM only for install, also it only really supports AGP/PCI not PCI-E, you can get a universal VESA driver seach "VBEMP" not for gaming but works for full colour and res. Sound "DOS games" like Duke nukem you would need OPL3LPT or COVOX card via parallel port. Overall you would be better of with XP and DOS dual boot with a parallel sound !not currently a way to get Sound blaster for most S effects! . going back to XP if in the UK low profile GTX 745 or a K620 currently for around £35 the gtx 745 LP uk.webuy.com/ £33. Not sure on the k620 windows xp driver i think it is JUST ABOUT going to work drp.su/en/devices/video/nvidia/nvidia-quadro-k620?os=windows-xp-x86 and is near the GTX 1030 SPEC

  • @Infinitrium
    @Infinitrium6 жыл бұрын

    I picked up an OEM GT 640 with GDDR 5 a while ago from a Goodwill type of shop for 10 dollars. I've got it connected to a slim HP desktop (that i paid 30 dollars for) with one of those pci-e x1 to USB adapters. It plays older games surprisingly well but the C2D e6700 really chokes on newer games like GTA V for example

  • @whitebeartigtig
    @whitebeartigtig5 жыл бұрын

    I’ve still got my OEM HP Radeon HD 6570 and it’s a good overclocker and it ran in my dell optiplex 780 sff just fine and I did video editing with it and it was just fine

  • @sportanyl
    @sportanyl3 жыл бұрын

    help, i ordered a GTX gigabyte 750 ti and im scared it wont fit in my hp compaq elite 8100 sff (In 13:52) Do i need one of those pci-e extension thingys?

  • @Bonjour-World
    @Bonjour-World5 жыл бұрын

    What about a PNY NVIDIA Quadro P400 (30 watts)? I do not know how it is for gaming but for it has given me a 5:1 improvement in encoding MPG video files.

  • @mapax5
    @mapax57 ай бұрын

    I know this is an old video but I was curious... I have a ShuttlePC, and only allows me single-slot GPU's... I'm running a GT740sc which seems the fastest XP gpu I can find that's single slot... What's your take? What's faster, for XP, AND single slot?

  • @PCartCast
    @PCartCast Жыл бұрын

    Got a GT730 with a Q9650, can play Driver Parallel Lines at 1080p just great. Haven't really tried with demanding games.

  • @InternationalLiaison
    @InternationalLiaison2 жыл бұрын

    would you be able to do another bench marks using the gt1030, the GTX 1050ti and the gtx1650? Enjoyed the video.

  • @arjanmeijer8096
    @arjanmeijer80966 жыл бұрын

    Nice video, I had a few of these cards in my mediacenter :) It now has a Radeon Pro WX 4100 (basically an RX560), which to my knowledge is the fastest low profile, single slot graphics card. Would be nice to see a follow up with the highest end stuff like a 1050 ti's....

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    6 жыл бұрын

    None of those are Windows XP compatible, so that's why they aren't featured :D Yea the 1050 Ti is the strongest one for modern gaming.

  • @arjanmeijer8096

    @arjanmeijer8096

    6 жыл бұрын

    PhilsComputerLab true, maybe for a retro windows 7 build ;)

  • @Gonz209
    @Gonz2094 жыл бұрын

    hello i see this is a 2 year old video on these low profile graphics cards, what do you recommend at this point in 2020 in the same low profile form factor? thanks.

  • @DiGI83
    @DiGI836 жыл бұрын

    Hey Phil, great Video as usual! I'm interested for the HDD Drive Bay you use on this PC. Can you provide some Links where to buy it?

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    6 жыл бұрын

    No link sorry, but you can find it on eBay coming from China!

  • @gymy20

    @gymy20

    5 жыл бұрын

    rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.de%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F183174872441

  • @garchamp9844
    @garchamp98443 жыл бұрын

    I have been trying to get my Radeon HD 7570 running in my XP retro PC for weeks, but no matter what I do the Catalyst Control Center refuses to show up. The driver itself I installed through Snappy Drivers, and I got the CCC v.14.4 pack 2 software for XP from the AMD website. Have anyone here encountered this problem? And how did you solve it?

  • @MaksimSSM
    @MaksimSSM4 жыл бұрын

    Фил, I want to buy low profile card for use my old system with TV via hdmi. What about noise and video decoding?

  • @PorusGaming69
    @PorusGaming695 жыл бұрын

    I Have Dell Inspiron 3268 Small Desktop And I'm Finding A GPU For My New Pc Can You Please Help Me ?

  • @vernondekoker8797
    @vernondekoker87972 жыл бұрын

    I have a G1 SFF HP I5, can I fit a Gt1030 graphics card in it

  • @scvic2006
    @scvic2006 Жыл бұрын

    Is there a build video for the base system?

  • @goqwertygo
    @goqwertygo6 жыл бұрын

    i really want a drive bay like you have. I think you should include the original Bioshock for XP gaming. I played it a lot in my XP days.

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    6 жыл бұрын

    I don't think it's got a built-in benchmark, so that's usually what I look for when picking games!

  • @luiz7665
    @luiz76656 жыл бұрын

    i can fit full size gtx 1050 1fan on my lenovo m72e sff by binding bracket a abit

  • @sakkel.7357
    @sakkel.73574 жыл бұрын

    I bought yeston rx550 4gd5 lp 4gb gddr5 just for 4k60hz but it only gives 4k30hz. I have just also bought hdmi 2.0b cable and benq tk800m 4k-projector. Any advice?

  • @mattscomp
    @mattscomp3 жыл бұрын

    Are these cards too new for a P4? I have an old Dell here and the GPU has chucked it in. It was ony an X300.. (PCI-E) Not looking for performance just something compatible and will run those old games.

  • @SuperCookieGaming_
    @SuperCookieGaming_6 жыл бұрын

    I recommend the 750 ti. i used it along with a g3258 to play GTA V at 60fps

  • @virtualtools_3021

    @virtualtools_3021

    4 жыл бұрын

    i use 7570 to run gta V at 90 fps, i used low spec gamers guide XD

  • @noscope1244

    @noscope1244

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@virtualtools_3021 how many fps for my rig, i7 3700(not k) radeon 7500 4gb, 1gb integ

  • @hyperturbotechnomike
    @hyperturbotechnomike Жыл бұрын

    I use a OEM GT740 in my ThinkCentre M58p SFF with the Core2Duo E8400

  • @Null_Experis
    @Null_Experis Жыл бұрын

    Another option for a low profile XP video card is the Nvidia Quadro K1200. This card is basically a 5% faster GT750, and works fantastic in Windows XP.

  • @kuroikensai202

    @kuroikensai202

    8 ай бұрын

    And costs 4 times more than 7570

  • @trafficracer124
    @trafficracer1244 жыл бұрын

    will a gtx 1650 work in the 8200 sff?

  • @kotasdanroda5132
    @kotasdanroda51323 жыл бұрын

    I have that kind of PC rn and i ordered that gtx 750 ti. Im afraid of the gpu will not fit on the case. Any advice?😐

  • @TAnimations
    @TAnimations5 жыл бұрын

    But which one performed the best? When I upgrade my gpu I might get that one

  • @BoomBox02
    @BoomBox026 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for this great video. I was originally going to get the pcie extender cable and run a full height GTX 750ti in my HP SSF for windows XP gaming, but then i remembered i bought an AMD R7 240 from MSY when they were still available brand new and will be using this until i find one of them damn rare GTX750 low profile cards. Going by the benchmarks, the GTX 750 should be on par or better than the GTX 750ti for XP gaming if you overclock it. I really thought there would be more of a lead in the ti version.

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yea so did I to be honest. The 750 is an OC model from Gigabyte, I should have mentioned that, but totally forgot about it. The 750 Ti seems to be a regular model.

  • @BoomBox02

    @BoomBox02

    6 жыл бұрын

    Just got on ebay to look for a low profile card and some sellers are asking up to $339au for a GTX750ti low profile. Thats crazy. Even though the GTX750 you have is the overclocked model, you should still be able to overclock it further still. Every factory overclocked card i have owned was able to overclock up to or more than 100Mhz on the core and memory. I also had the same GTX610 but with 2GB of ram and that overclocked over 200Mhz on the core and memory. Anyway looks like trying to find a decent priced low profile GTX750ti is going to be a challenge for a while. UPDATE, i was looking at prices for the GTX1050ti. Stupid me should have been wearing my glasses. This is the only low profile GTX 750 i could find. www.ebay.com.au/itm/Gigabyte-GTX-750-Ti-Graphics-Video-Card-Low-Profile-OC-2GB-GDDR5/282996511355?hash=item41e3e8127b:g:Og8AAOSw92RbFush

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yea you could them brand new earlier this year, but that stock is all gone it seems. They are still too new to appear readily second hand, but that will change over time. At least full height 750 cards are now coming out of China from LAN cafes, so that will help lower prices.

  • @vincentlaurensius8714
    @vincentlaurensius87146 жыл бұрын

    I have that kind of HP Mini Form Factor. But with Core2Duo. Any recommendations?

  • @lunchie80
    @lunchie805 жыл бұрын

    Picked up 3 quadro 600s for $20. Overclocked to 825 core and 900 memory with msi afterburner. Just spent a few hours playing portal 2 no problem at 1080p on a sff elite 8300. Have a good ryzen 5 system too but this is oddly more satisfying...

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    5 жыл бұрын

    I know the feeling :D

  • @marcoescamilla8856
    @marcoescamilla88566 жыл бұрын

    Phil may i know where did you get the 5.25 drive bay adapter?

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    6 жыл бұрын

    Got it off eBay! There will be a "upgrade my SFF" type video, and if all goes well, featuring fan replacements as well from a reputable cooling company :D

  • @razbloodalpha4982
    @razbloodalpha49826 жыл бұрын

    Where did you find XP drivers for the 7570??? I ended up having to give up an xp install as I couldn't locate any compatible drivers. Even direct from AMD as the one offered on their site only provided the Catalyst manager without the Graphics driver. Also tried installing through device manager, but this didn't work either.

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    6 жыл бұрын

    I took notes on the drivers :D Catalyst 14.4 Pack 2 is the one that worked for me. But, like I mentioned in the video, I had to install the drivers through device manager, it wouldn't work through the installer. My card is DELL OEM, so it's a bit picky. If you're still having issues, check out this Snappy Driver Installer, it will at least install the drivers, but not the CCC.

  • @ariffss9390
    @ariffss9390 Жыл бұрын

    Hello will the hd 7570 be compatible with optiplex 7050 sff

  • @MrScottyTay
    @MrScottyTayАй бұрын

    what do you mean by "driver pack is 2 again?" when talking about the HD7570 drivers. Going to your list of drivers, it'd hard to determine which one you mean?

  • @philscomputerlab

    @philscomputerlab

    Ай бұрын

    The final XP driver comes in 3 different versions, labelled as packs.

  • @moustafaeldemary3252
    @moustafaeldemary32524 жыл бұрын

    from where i can buy this connecter from gpu to my motherboard

  • @koreannom
    @koreannom2 жыл бұрын

    Would a HD 7770 be comparable to the GTX 750/ti ? I recently picked one up for cheap and if it works properly, might make a windows XP retro gaming rig with it. Not sure if I should pair it with an i3 2100 or i5 3470S and how many cores/threads I should be enabling, does anyone know what I should be doing? lol

  • @yorgle11
    @yorgle116 жыл бұрын

    I use a GT430 in my low profile XP machine. It's faster than the GT610 but probably not as fast as the 630. It's amply fast for everything I need it to do. It's most demanding application is to serve as an extra machine for the kids to play multiplayer Minecraft. With the GT430 it runs that game basically just as smooth as my "heavy" gaming PC. It was a significant improvement from an HD4350 that I already had (and wasn't satisfied with). It also handles H.264 acceleration in the MPC-BE player. I found some old reviews which showed the GT430 used very little power at an idle desktop, and that was a key concern of mine. The whole point of my low profile XP PC is that I use it as an everyday low power system. If I'm going to play a demanding game, then I fire up the heavy tower XP machine. My "heavy" is a power hog, and it's S3 standby mode doesn't even work (it wakes up dead), so I prefer not to run that machine all day long, at least not in the summer months. The funny thing about GT430 cards is that the models that the review sites reviewed have faster memory than the cards that actually exist. So do research on the clock and RAM configuration of whatever specific card you look at buying. In my case I found that the fastest readily/cheaply available model was one from Asus. But open buying the Asus, the seller sent me a Zotac. I was irritated because I knew it had slower memory. However, it turned out to be a fantastic overclocker, reaching the Asus' speeds without any issue, so I kept it and have been happy with it. There is a major caveat with some nVidia cards when using multiple monitors. At least with the GT2xx and GT4xx cards that I've used, nVidia's drivers will lock the card into it's high power state when there are multiple monitors. There is 3rd party software called "nVidia Inspector" which can be used to override this behavior. You can then give it a list of executables that should trigger the high power state. The software can also switch power states based on the amount of GPU load that it detects, but I found that results in some irritating visual effects when it keeps switching too much, so I prefer to use the method of listing .EXE files. I don't think ATI has this problem.

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