Most don't want to spend 10k or better for college just to find themselves working for $15 an hour after college 😅

@r5t6y7u8

16 күн бұрын

Try $100K+. Fontbonne's tuition is/was $28,976, not counting fees and housing.

@cpreality672

16 күн бұрын

I never went to college and make 70k

@mora103

16 күн бұрын

@@r5t6y7u8 maybe so but its not on average, or another words "common"

@mora103

16 күн бұрын

@@r5t6y7u8 that's crazy 🫣

@mora103

16 күн бұрын

@@cpreality672 I climb trees for a living and make about the same, give or take a little depending on my motivation 😅

Things are way more expensive that they should be. Too much greed in the system.

@Novastar.SaberCombat

15 күн бұрын

Yup. Rich gotta rich. Poor gotta serve, suffer, and submit. 💪😎✌️ That's the thousand-year system, baby.

@miscellaneous714

15 күн бұрын

Don’t blame corporates. Always blame government for overspending and making inflation worse

@patrickm6012

9 күн бұрын

@@miscellaneous714always blame corporate for their greed.

@miscellaneous714

8 күн бұрын

@@patrickm6012 Everyone is greedy! It is just human nature

@-ReHaven

8 күн бұрын

⁠@@miscellaneous714that doesn’t mean it’s good, we humans have enough conscience to change what we consider bad behavior even if it’s “human nature”

They said "don't go to college if you can't afford it." People listened...

@latrinemarine826

10 күн бұрын

That’s not the whole story. People are having less kids. You need to actually have breathing human beings in class in order to keep a college open.

@scooterankle6709

10 күн бұрын

@@latrinemarine826this is a terrible point considering the general rise in population and also large rise in college attendees

@latrinemarine826

8 күн бұрын

@@scooterankle6709 Real head scratcher of a comment you have there. The birth rate is declining world wide and that means less children, less immigrants over time, and less people to fill colleges in general. Go do some actual research please.

@scooterankle6709

7 күн бұрын

@@latrinemarine826 just because the birthrate is declining in some countries does not mean the population is not increasing overall. Since college attendance in the United States has grown astronomically it’s completely ridiculous to blame the birth rate instead of maybe the fact that it’s not economical or logical to attend small colleges

@ervamoten5830

7 күн бұрын

​@@latrinemarine826Specifically, in the global northern 1st world countries. Usually global southern countries like Subsaharan Africa, middle east, the khorasan region, and maritime southeast asia has higher birth rates

Convert the closed universities into affordable housing, rather than to tear the buildings down!!!

@weirdo1060

16 күн бұрын

Not that simple. Campus would need to be rezoned as residential. It would also be costly to convert academic classroom or offices into living spaces.

@40dollhairs

14 күн бұрын

@@weirdo1060 Bureaucracy eliminates immediate practical solutions and innovation.

@phunkymonkiee

12 күн бұрын

Aren't most of these small colleges located in towns and suburban areas away from major, expensive cities? I doubt that doing this would do much for making housing more affordable, especially in the areas where it is really unaffordable.

@Dflowen

12 күн бұрын

@@weirdo1060 womp womp - the rules supersede the necessity and gate keep these potential housing ideas. sucks.

@andergarcia4953

10 күн бұрын

Zoning laws don't allow that

I think there are too many colleges. And yes, many of these institutions are not honest about their financial stability.

@weirdo1060

16 күн бұрын

Especially for-profit colleges...

Corporate greed is destroying us.

@itsme-ih2cx

16 күн бұрын

Imagine when AI accelerates we will really see the effects of the population collpasing. Have u ever seen bicentennial man, it will be kind of like this

@MrKevinwg

16 күн бұрын

By corporate greed, do you mean greedy colleges?

@RoyceMusic333

15 күн бұрын

You mean the GL.

@miscellaneous714

15 күн бұрын

You obviously have no idea how economy works

@arunbenny808

15 күн бұрын

@@miscellaneous714 yah me, Bernie Sanders and 60% of working class Americans living paycheck to paycheck have no idea that an economy that mostly only works for the 1% isn’t sustainable.

Study in a community college.

@neanam

15 күн бұрын

Seeking some knowledge southwest community college.

@eyeseer1

13 күн бұрын

Trade Schools are also ideal.

@gwenmloveskpopcecmore

11 күн бұрын

Yeah they are 2 year

@patrickm6012

9 күн бұрын

Why? They generally are not the best.

@naptime0143

8 күн бұрын

​@@eyeseer1but you still live paycheck tho

Sad but necessary. The next generation is much smaller. They can’t keep these open.

@FINSuojeluskunta

16 күн бұрын

This is really why, it's a demographics issue

@WELVAS.

15 күн бұрын

Less people graduating high school was noted

@TheFort87

13 күн бұрын

More like students see no value in tiny private schools with absolutely no prestige and are going to CC, state schools, or more notable private ones.

dont commit to these super small no-name schools, there are equivalent state or well-known colleges with >70-80% acceptance rate to apply to and choose

@andrewd.conard5088

16 күн бұрын

A lot of these are religious institutions. The costs are just outrageous.

@somewhereinspace2166

15 күн бұрын

@@andrewd.conard5088 I've never understood why some people shell out $100K just to go to a religious school. What, it has a church on campus? You can go to church down the street for free. Some people just don't make good choices.

@ninjagirl226

13 күн бұрын

But on the list of things to look for I live near a major college and went to grad school at an even bigger school in the big 12. Both checked every red flag. Ironically my no name undergrad doesn’t have all the red flags. So we’ll-known might not be the answer especially with a lot of the power grabs and safety issues I’ve been hearing out of a lot of these big schools. Like my friend literally failed a class last semester because of his major as a great example of a power move.

@user-rf1nn8sg3f

8 күн бұрын

If your parents are rich it doesn't matter or if you know rich parents (and are friends). If the school has rich alumni that hires recent graduates - it also doesn't matter.

Many colleges and universities have priced themselves out of existence. The cost of college has risen at TWICE the rate of inflation for years. This, plus a smaller student population overall will make many smaller schools unable to compete, and obsolete.Especially private ones. Look for more schools to close their doors in the future. I predicted this over a decade ago.

@paloma598

14 күн бұрын

when I was in college, i had to pay for the new student services building that was bulit way before I enrolled, student health insurance that was $400-$500, "free tickets" for on campus sporting events. It doesn't help that they force you to live on campus for the first two yrs either.

“Students are not astute consumers of a institutions finances” - No truer words have been spoken, colleges have been exploiting this for far too long. Students are consumers, and for far too long we have not been getting our moneys worth.

My son went to study in Seville - Spain, the costs are much lower and the quality is equal to or better than any ivy league university in America, plus, learning spanish and living for several years in EUROPE.

@latrinemarine826

10 күн бұрын

Do you get to learn woke ideology in Spanish? Bueno!

@tadzio7326

10 күн бұрын

@@latrinemarine826 no.

@AB-ou8ve

9 күн бұрын

@@latrinemarine826 As opposed to whatever conservative crap lies in your thick skull?

@allgoodnamestaken6002

7 күн бұрын

​@@latrinemarine826What?

Too expensive.

Employers are using college degrees as a means of filtering applicants, nothing more. I never graduated from college, and I still had an amazing career regardless.

@andrewd.conard5088

16 күн бұрын

Very true. What do you do for a career?

@rescuegirl

15 күн бұрын

@@andrewd.conard5088 Firefighter Paramedic Lieutenant Specialist. (You have to do something. lol.)

@ProSePlaintiff

12 күн бұрын

​@@rescuegirlFirefighters are overpaid because of the union mafia

A lot of public universities offer more for less for in state students. It's already expensive as is

the perfect storm: prices kept rising AND the population of college-aged kids cratered.

If you're not pursuing a STEM/Economics/Finance degree and putting in the work to get a high GPA then you're just throwing money down the drain going to college. You're better off learning a trade...

@HenriettaHudson-we4wv

16 күн бұрын

IKR???

@randomcandy8209

16 күн бұрын

It’s concerning that no one here is mentioning education as a important degree… if you can’t make it through college you shouldn’t be teaching

@gomes2151

15 күн бұрын

Ok, mr. Plumber. Of course you can't explain that this situation is not caused by ''fine arts'' students or Phd's in Gender Studies without bonding it to economics/financial misuse of budgets and taxes caused by ''dextrous'' admistration staffs.

@mememaster9703

10 күн бұрын

ugh ... business major moment

@stonerwitch4629

7 күн бұрын

stem, economics and finance. ok so no social workers, teachers, librarians, journalists, archivists/curators, linguists, therapists, lawyers, counselors, diplomacy, translators, i mean the list goes on. part of what makes 1st world countries comfortable is the fact that there are so many jobs holding one company or establishment up. the doctor would be nothing without the nurse, cna and social worker. our pieces of physical history and museums would be nothing without the archivist, historian and curator.

Half of college graduates work in jobs that don't require a degree. Also businesses are opening up many jobs to nondegree holding applicants that they required degrees for in the past. When the degree holders need to be bailed out from their student debt the degree has failed to do the job it was intended to do.

@justinderrick8785

13 күн бұрын

the whole point of college was to scam 18 year olds into 4 years of debt with a useless piece of paper that can get you $15/hr job at best or unemployment at worst. forget morals!!!!

@patrickm6012

9 күн бұрын

Of course they are, so they can pay people less.

@justinderrick8785

8 күн бұрын

it's like buying an apartment building for $100 million yet no one can afford rent. owner's gunna go belly up :P

Fontbonne College is extremely expensive (30k for yearly base tuition + 9-12k for dorm housing) for what it is. I’m not shocked enrollment is down.

Why would you pay for something that isn’t going to support you these days???

@Novastar.SaberCombat

15 күн бұрын

Exactly. Besides, if you ain't rich, then you ain't sheet. What people need to do is simply be rich. If they can't do that, then they should become wealthy. Wealth is health; might is right. Money solves anyone's problems and always leads to popularity and success. Just look at Chump! Now THAT is the poster boy for Godhood, immortality, and worldwide success. He can't be touched, and it's because of one thing and one alone: *COIN*. 💵🇱🇷💵🇱🇷💵🇱🇷 #GodBlessChumpmerica

Yes….tuitions are insane. And if you aren’t a “name brand” school people don’t want to pay anymore

Not worth going to college anymore. Going to college for me was a big mistake of my life.

@costidisa

16 күн бұрын

It was good for me and for many other people. Maybe you didn't go to a good one, or perhaps you made poor decisions, or just had bad luck. Ninetheless, had you paid more attention in college, you might have learned to avoid making blanket assertions like the one you made.

@benu_bird

16 күн бұрын

Not worth studying engineering, medicine, finance, accounting, or even studying liberals arts to become a teacher? Yes, it is still worth going to college. The issue is the cost for most schools isn't in line with the ROI. Europe and Asia will crush the US if it doesn't get it's higher education problem solved.

@andreward8268

16 күн бұрын

​​@@costidisa

@costidisa

16 күн бұрын

@@andreward8268 lol. Howz that? I described MY experience and said it was positive, so college is not worthless for everyone. You try again bud.

@andreward8268

16 күн бұрын

@@costidisa ummm... saying perhaps people are making poor decisions coming out of college. X, your failing with your degree in hand. Colleges failed students on what the real world is like. Not every job/occupation requires a degree. Is there a degree for Customer Services Rep?? Nope - isn't that a great entry level job that many of us have? Tiny percentage of colleges offer degrees in Medical Billing / Coding How about Business Analyst? How about Agile? Sooooo many great jobs out here that pays six figures and there are NO Degrees (or a tiny percentage)

If the school is in a small town, the town also suffers as colleges bring in money for businesses

This is sad😢

Madame, students are astute enough to understand "We are not confident that we can afford to keep our doors open for the next four years." That's the least that college leaders owe the students who are touring and considering colleges as high school seniors.

My son applied for an in-state school. Tuition--$51k/yr IN STATE and it's not even an Ivy institution! Ridiculous! He opted for community college and now has a job that does tuition reimbursement (completion scholarship). They will cover 2 classes per semester up to $5k annual max. He will be utilizing that benefit and will be attending a cheaper school for his last 2 years.

@JasonJoe-rl3co

16 күн бұрын

Not possible. No state school has a tuition that high for in state stufents. Maybe cost of attendance, but impossible. I’m not sure where you get your facts from

@MissCandy350

16 күн бұрын

@@JasonJoe-rl3co I said "in-state," not "state." Meaning, he would not go OUT OF STATE for school. And the ANNUAL tuition TOTALED $51k LIKE I SAID. You have no idea what school I'm referring to, nor the state.

@MrGmartin18

16 күн бұрын

What state do you live in to charge that high of a price?

@user-go9rd1io7b

13 күн бұрын

@@MissCandy350You should have clarified that it was a private school. Your comment does not make sense; why say "in-state" school if its a private school? It's not like the tuition is cheaper if you're in-state for private schools (maybe aside from a select few out of the thousands).

@andergarcia4953

10 күн бұрын

If the average university is pricing out average citizens they deserved to be shutdown. The school prob is experience shortage in enrollment so as to compensate they raise the tuition .

Two colleges/universities in the Philadelphia area just closed. I thought it was odd and didn't know it was part of a trend. One of the schools, Cabrini, gave about a year's notice. The other one, University of the Arts, gave very short notice, possibly even less than a week.

Maybe Republicans should look into low or free tuition, unless they are banking on low-paying employees for their corporate MAGA members.

Education is so STEM focused these days. There is so much more to learn than that in the world. Guess it doesn't matter if we're all being replaced by robots.

When we went on a college search for my two older kids we asked about enrollment numbers. Of the seven schools we visited, six had record high enrollment for 5+ years in a row. The last one had declining enrollment. We crossed off the one with declining enrollment. My two kids are at the same private university and are loving it. They both got scholarships, so it’s not that expensive for our family. The point is, ask questions about enrollment numbers and the size of their endowment. If they don’t answer honestly or completely, just keep walking.

As someone who has finally transfered this year I am very relieved that my college was on that list of financially stressed colleges. It took my a while to finally transfer to a college that actually fit me. Look if I could go back and talk to myself from high school, I would probably tell myself to do better research in finding a college that actually meets my financial and academic needs. To be fair, alot of these schools also has the problem of where they are since most people are also worried mostly on paying for school and lastly where the college is located if and when there are things to do. A lot of factors play into if a college can survive. All I know is please keep in mind where you go and understand your worth. College isn't for everyone and that this is your sign to leave, do it.

@ProSePlaintiff

12 күн бұрын

First world privileges wall of text?😂

There are small colleges that on the verge of closing soon or a few years later that participate in affirmative action just to get more students. It doesn’t work a lot. A college got more international students from Asia due to it as they gave them free acceptance letters.

I went to a university that was smaller than my highschool. It was a wonderful experience

That's because of high tuition resulting from federal student loans that are too easy to take out.

Is this partially what happened to Upsala College, East Orange N.J when it closed in 1995 after being open more than 100 years, since 1893?

The sad part is that some of the schools closing are the only ones that went of their way to serve students who couldn’t afford more expensive schools or had needs other schools couldn’t meet. The same rich universities that keep raising the price of attendance are only going to get more competitive and will be able to justify raising tuition further.

I remembered an ITT tech commercial playing during an episode of Jerry springer. That’s all I want to say…

A community college that I attended ended up merging with the local university by moving to one of the university's buildings. It is also without bus service to get to the location which caused enrollment to dwindle drastically, because the cost of owning a car is equal to a house payment per month in this particular area that I am referencing.

@jacqueslee2592

16 күн бұрын

Really? Which area, town or city in the US? What is a house payment? That seems to much for cost of owning a car unless if own a luxury vehicle like Mercedes Benz, BMW.

@aidenalamo6262

16 күн бұрын

@@jacqueslee2592 The expenses of owning a car while a student is astronomical in Iowa City and surrounding cities. By the time you take into consideration the car payment, car insurance, fuel, body work and maintenance, outrageous parking fees and other expenses, it is equal to a house payment or $900 or more (depending on where you live in Iowa City or surrounding communities).

@jacqueslee2592

12 күн бұрын

@@aidenalamo6262 Really. Wow. Thank you for sharing. Here in California rent is $2000. I rather pay for a house than rent. Iowa city seems cool.

Hmmm I wonderrr whyyyy???

Universities in other western countries…do not have nearly as high the price tag as our US universities, even community college is ridiculous now…so expensive.

Sooo, they are upset that no one can afford to go to college. Who decided to hike prices?? Not the people wo wanted to go to college but couldn't afford it, that's for sure...

Not sure if colleges are really closing, or if it's just the low-tier no-name colleges that barely make it out of the "diploma mill" threshold.

I hope more colleges close. If you can't attract customers, then you gotta close. In the end, they're a business.

Should be posted in "Good News" sections surely. The expansion of the college system has gone much too far, making degrees worth less and less.

Can’t you just get a liberal arts education online?

@guybeauregard

2 сағат бұрын

Gather, read, listen, talk, learn. Education at that level is not the same as watching youtube videos (as much as I like the latter!). Cheers, Guy

The cost of living now is going to accelerate a lot of problems later down the road people ultimately decide to have fewer kids right now 20 years time those choices will come to roost

Looks like military recruiters are gonna hit their quotas a lot quicker

Smaller colleges change up the course offerings eg trades , tech and medical fields , get a high employment rate post graduation w all the stats , and you will have people lining up to enroll !

That’s what ya get for overcharging for degrees, offering useless degrees and lying through your teeth to teenagers.

Schools should close if enrollment drops.

safer at home. less driving better for the ozone too.

@user-ti4iw2en1h

16 күн бұрын

?

@RoyceMusic333

15 күн бұрын

Ysbt?

You can make more money with an associate degree than a bachelor degree anyway. Forbes published the highest paying jobs that require an associate degree every year.

Most jobs these days could care less about your diploma. They don't even check. It's all about what you know and what you can do, and the internet is your best teacher. Go to college if you want to develop socially or if you're going into medical or law. Everyone else shouldn't waste their time and money, especially those going into tech or the arts.

Good. College sucks unless you’re studying for a STEM, medical, or business related career path

@enhancedutility266

17 күн бұрын

I've heard that comment for years The problem with that statement is that the average American doesn't have the aptitude to learn hard sciences and mathematics

@bebdaumon3948

17 күн бұрын

I got a degree in accounting and finance and the jobs out there require 5 years of work experience for entry positions. The internships are very competitive and there's many like me running around taking labor jobs.

@anuragchakraborty8766

16 күн бұрын

@@bebdaumon3948 labor jobs such as?

@benu_bird

16 күн бұрын

@@bebdaumon3948 Saying an entry level position requires 5 years of experience is a way of say "we want experienced people, but we only want to pay them entry level wages." And in a bad economy, it works as people will take what they can get.

@Chad_Max

16 күн бұрын

@@bebdaumon3948 What was your GPA? You can't just have a degree, you need to demonstrate aptitude through a crushing GPA. I think accounting is a pointless degree but a finance degree with a high GPA can get you into the investment banking path...

people cant afford college in general and people need to work while attending school to pay bills

Cant you file for debt forgiveness if your school closes?

It’s demographics. And schools have not learned to leverage giant on line courses nor tailoring their offerings towards employment. By the way, when you take out the MDs and JDs and MBAs out of the college graduate salary equation undergraduate degrees don’t make anymore than high school grads. And you’re going to pay

Omg Khalia Booker ❤ i see you girl ❤

Inevitable. Since birthrates will not increase in the foreseeable future, the answer is increasing the number of people allowed to legally emigrate to the United States. They bring their kids with them, they will create new markets, enlarge the student pool, and bring more workers to support our eldrly who depend on Social Security and Medicare.

@Aeom_333

9 күн бұрын

You incels all talk the same

A lot of these schools that are closing are literally taking anyone with a pulse, passing them and not teaching them anything

Turn them.into trade schools

@patrickm6012

9 күн бұрын

We don’t need any more schools.

Make everything a trade .and I mean everything . Colleges is to expensive and it not guaranteed a check . These kids need trade to build off of. they will do a trade tr

I wonder why

@RM-xr8lq

3 күн бұрын

well as any of the occidental wage slaves will tell you, they do not consider education of value anymore. it is just a job requirement to them in their culture they decide their lives entirely based on personal wealth hoarding, and most secular academic topics in science do not generate capital. luckily other parts of the world are taking the reins in human innovation and knowledge, as these countries begin to fracture and die off

Nobody wants to enroll into a debt. That’s why they have no enrollment and that’s why they’re closing down. If you gonna say the news say the whole story

We need to close about a third of the colleges. Way too many.

I take classes online on udemy for much cheaper dollars.

This will continue as the birth rate continues to decline. You need to actually have students in class in order to operate a college.

@Golflegend410

10 күн бұрын

The birth rate will continue to decline. Raising kids is too expensive

Cuz they only want big name brands

Forgive student debt so the next generation stands a chance !! We all know student debt is the culprit here all these graduates are poor and homeless !

I thought if a college shut down then all students automatically get their degree if they didn’t finish?

@Aeom_333

9 күн бұрын

No. They have to transfer somewhere else. Just happened to a bunch of students in Philadelphia at Uarts

Close all schools that have poor outcomes.

Career College is so much better.

Sky high tuition. That’s one reason. Declining religious belief is another reason.

Probably just gonna protest something happening thousands of miles away, wasting their parents tuition.

Demographics.

Oh no! Now who's gonna buy all those $500 loose leaf, photocopied textbooks?

Not one comment regarding America’s low birth rates? Isn’t it obvious colleges will continue close?

@Aeom_333

9 күн бұрын

That’s not enough for colleges to close

Wow so sad. The mockery of academia can't continue. The teachers of ancient Greece raise their hand at you America Education and what you call education are two very different things. Like American cheese and real cheese

Thank social media you can earn more creating content than a 4 year college degree and a 9-5

Get a job is what is next.

Fan Fan School, is not Fun Fun

I get the sense that those in their 40s and below are so disconnected that it's starting to cause a real problem I think we need to force these kids to step up because they're refusal to do so is starting to become a real problem!

@anuragchakraborty8766

17 күн бұрын

*their (learn some grammar please)

@benu_bird

16 күн бұрын

Ok, Boomer. Have you actually looked at what they are facing in the employment market? Entry level jobs that require 5 years experience (code for "we want experienced, mid-level people, but we are only willing to pay entry level wages"), ghost jobs (whose application take a couple of hours, only to get an automated AI rejection-and the job doesn't actually exist), and going through rounds of interviews just to get told you don't have the job. And they are refusing to work OT without compensation for companies that are making record profits (and C-suite managers making millions off them). Good for them! They are not the problem. Corporate greed is the problem.

@Chad_Max

16 күн бұрын

@@benu_bird For recent grads the best way to overcome these hurdles is with a STEAM/Economics/Finance degree + high GPA. What was your major and GPA? There's way too many graduates who feel entitled to a job just b/c they have any degree. Degree mills have been running for decades just churning out graduates so you really have to separate yourself from the pack. When you're entering the workforce this is with a strong degree (only the ones mentioned earlier) + high GPA if you don't have professional connections. If you're going out there with a marketing degree and a 3.0 GPA you're gonna be flipping burgers...

@dstarrII8442

16 күн бұрын

All these little angry comments just serve to prove me right I see a bunch of crybabies that just want to complain and have everything done for you none of you have what it takes to step up to the plate so disappointing!

@Novastar.SaberCombat

15 күн бұрын

The "dstarr182" (or whatever) guy is a confirmed troll or bot. 💪😎✌️ Don't feed the algorithmic jank, folks. 😂

Why do people go to no name private schools? It doesn’t make sense. You get minimal alumni connections and don’t have many resources. Even if it’s a full ride at a no name schools it’s not worth it

@jacqueslee2592

16 күн бұрын

Americans. A lot of these universities are associated with the evangelical cults, Scientology, and Mormonism. They recruit people from these cults.

Wait: Using endowments for operational costs isn't a good idea? Don't tell me they should be used for some unsustainable project which then gets scaled through the assumption of ever-increasing enrollment. OK, I know they're supposed to be 'invested,' but that's just as precarious...

So many rich influencers lol

Unless you are going to Harvard or MIT think twice about that piece of paper you are paying 50k for.

Good.

College is very expensive these days and mostly it's only girls that can afford it

It's okay Ukraine needs the money

A large majority of Gen Z’s are fearful they will go to colleges that would make eyebrows go crooked on a Resume and be rejected as a nobody. You could be the best of the best at some random college nobody knows and still the credibility on paper wouldn’t be enough for an employer paying high salary. You look around the world in places like Asia these days where education is highly competitive, people face societal pressures to get into the most prestigious and well known universities possible and land a job that pays great. Achievements and whats on paper is what is sought after.

College is a joke anyways.

@andreward8268

16 күн бұрын

We need more training schools

Boo Fn woo Yall are catholic and perfect. Your God has made a way.

A religious school? Good riddance.

religion 😂😂

Keep raising that tuition