Im with the other guys. lets see the gen 6 with factory fuel injection with cam upgrade. or lets see how far you can go NA with the factory GM EFI intake manifold. Thanks Richard for all the great content.

Really appreciating the big block content.

@shadowopsairman1583

3 жыл бұрын

Considering a Gen 6 BBChevy 454 (7.4L)/ 496 (8.1L) and LR4/LM7 accessories will work.

@OneCorvette

3 жыл бұрын

ShadowOps Airman1 has been an easy and awesome

Love to see more fuel injection mods for that Gen VI

Big blocks are awesome. Wish I realized that years ago. Excellent street motors with lots of torque. Don't take much to make them fun street engines. This is a fine example of that.

The one guy giving a thumbs down. Just quit watching Richard’s videos please.

@scoutdogfsr

3 жыл бұрын

Haters will hate

i'd like to see the power curve of that cam with the factory fuel injetion

@liljohnp132

3 жыл бұрын

I agree!

@rolandblaine4937

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing.

@GIGABACHI

3 жыл бұрын

I was gonna ask for the same. 🙂👍

@chasekuhlman9090

3 жыл бұрын

Me too!

@safetyfirstintexas

3 жыл бұрын

Would be good

Great timing. I just bought a 1972 C60 and want to put a modern drive train in it. Needless to say I've been binge watching your channel for days. Keep up the good work. 🍀

Love your love of the L29. How about paying all us truck guys back and do a build for what they were ment for HAULIN . Torque and economy. If you need a test subject I have 4 K2500 suburbans w/ gen VI BB

While we rest Richard acquires data

Do a cam swap with the factory intake! Most guys that already have this engine would like to know. Maybe even factory exhaust manifolds!

@LightningFast240

3 жыл бұрын

i will let you know, i am putting a mild cam in mine lol

@blakeseales6143

3 жыл бұрын

@@LightningFast240 how’s the cam treating you?

@LightningFast240

3 жыл бұрын

its on hold for the moment, wiring gremlins, need to 411 swap the truck. knocking out a gen v 416 for my camaro first then ill get back to it. i have the 284 grind cam for the truck tho.

Nice very nice... Man Richard makes the Hot rod life way easier and cheaper for us who care.. Great Info Richard💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

Hey Richard thanks for the upload. I'm building a GEN 6 and planning to run the factory EFI with a Holley system figure out the wiring to use the factory stuff. Injectors will get replaced as far as the block with 300 plus thousand miles. I be doing a lot of fundraising because it's for my sons dually & a stroker build is what he wants 496 bigger cam of course. He wants as much torque low speed N/A. He's already happy with the factory power as is but be nice to upgrade. Great time to go through mid-life I get to build something for my son. See You on the next Notification 👏👍😎✌

3👍's up Richard thanks again for taking us all along with you for the great show

@bigredracer7848

3 жыл бұрын

Since you don't get back to people on my LS 408 build for my suburban 2001 3/4 ton I'm going to order 50 lb injectors and the old ones that were in the lq4 6 l were 38 lb injectors I'm still using the same intake same exhaust system just upgrading to new sensors throughout the engine I think what you do is amazing but sometimes you make big mistakes but you did it on purpose I find that out after watching the whole video I just wish you would get back and answer people's questions when they ask them of you I know you're a busy guy and it's late at night and you're working and then you got a job during the day but still how hard would it be to answer a question

Yesss, I see those valve covers and I say yesss. I have no idea how it will work because I'm still waiting on it but I got a full kit from Lunati for my gen 6 454.

Keep up the good work Rich! Love this channel! 👍

I wish that I could find this kind of motors at the junkyard. Unfortunately, I live in Sweden, so not much luck. But I have to say; I've learned more the last couple of months from your videos about making a V8 sing than all my years reading magazines and articles for years! Greetings from Sweden.

@GIGABACHI

3 жыл бұрын

Start digging up those VOLVO inline 4 and 6 and BOOST Living Hell into them. Got Lemons ? Make delicious Lemonade ! 👌🙂👍

Thanks for the videos. I'm getting a gen 6 454 for my mud truck and all I'm doing for now is cam intake and distributor.

This channel is AAAAAAaaaaawesomefully entertaining.

Great motor! Very informative, thanks. I think they work better with carbs, and then cam, nitrous, headers, etc... Big bang for buck 👍🏻

Please do an episode on the Dodge 5.2/5.9 Magnum. There are thousands of these in salvage yards installed in Rams, vans, Dakotas, etc

@matthewowen5478

3 жыл бұрын

They are tough and respond veeeeeery well to cam and heads.

You videos save and show us so so much without headache

Your tests help Soo much!

These dyno videos are the best!

Also, I have some info on improving the EFI system. I had this motor installed with the stock intake in my monte carlo (viewable on my channel) The factory common rail marine style fuel rail was a huge pain in the butt, and also, it is difficult to keep the rail lined up. I added 80 lb. Siemens injectors, and spent two and a half weeks balancing between having a vacuum leak and a fuel leak. I recently purchased Holley EFI intake 300-561 (Edelbrock makes a version of the victor jr that is comparable), and Edelbrock's 4150 Throttlebody (co-incidentally both the mounting flange pattern and the part number). The Factory L29 TPS, IAC, and MAP sensor plugs, plug directly into the Throttle body, allowing you use the Edelbrock on board MAP sensor. I will do a video for you EFI L29 guys showing you some options for fitment, and lets see if we can peer pressure Richard into Dynoing them.

@Jason_Keller_300

3 жыл бұрын

I'm interested I'm rebuilding my big block in my 2000 k3500 an need to keep it with the fuel injection because of emissions here in PA an wanna swap the cam too

@richardholdener1727

3 жыл бұрын

bigger injectors are an easy swap-if your motor needs the fuel flow

@mattbauckman9907

3 жыл бұрын

Ford 5.0 injectors are in upgrade from stock on the L 29. The stock ones are pretty much maxed out.

@LightningFast240

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattbauckman9907 you could still drive around with a cam on them normal till you get new ones correct?

Great gains, from a baby cam!

The best engine i ever had the pleasure of owning. Awesome!

@12yearssober

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. I have got hundreds of thousands of miles out of them. Routine maintenance is all they need.

I'd like to see the Holley 650 Carb vs Holley Sniper EFI. Any modern aftermarket EFI is going to be so much better than EFI even from 10 years ago. I imagine running the Holley Sniper or the FiTech EFI is going to perform better than the stock EFI.

646 ft lbs with the stock cam and a small shot, brutal. 👍🏻

Big Bang gen vi 454.....

Thanks Richard I love this video.

@richardholdener1727

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it!

Love this video, something I might consider doing to my 96 suburban

Always happy to see another Big Block Chevy video 😁👍🏼👍🏼! Looking forward to twin S475’s or 480’s. I actually ordered a used Car Craft (October 2014) last year to get an idea what it and you could do once I found internet references to the article, ‘Dyno Wrecker’....a.k.a. Big Bang BBC v 1.0. When are you going to try Big Bang BBC 2.0, Richard?! Thanks for another great video!

Cool test, thank you 👍

Another vote for giving the same treatment to the 454's often-disregarded big brother, the 8.1L (L18). While not exactly giveaways at the junkyard, on a dollar-per-displacement basis they are a decent.

@billkerksiek208

3 жыл бұрын

I think he mentioned before he was hoping to do one, but was having a hard time finding one. I'm also on board for an 8.1 video though. One will probably end up replacing the tired Gen IV 454 I've got in my truck right now.

Merry Christmas to you and your family have a great weekend.

Great video

Lunati has a cam, springs, rotator eliminators, etc for that motor, I just ordered one for my 502 short block with the L29 top end

@rooster68able

3 жыл бұрын

1 Reason is as you see everthing is sponsored by drum rollllll Comp Cams! That is why lunati or any others are not even looked at not a bad thing ,just is what it is...

This is awesome would love to hear this beast. Would like to see this but more torque than HP.

Great comparison video! (How about a manifold comparison of a stock 1970ish Q-Jet cast iron manifold, a1970ish LT1 manifold and today`s Edelbrock RPM Air-Gap manifold on a 1970 spec 350/350hp Corvette engine? And then try the manifolds with a 327/365 cam and one of today`s Comp cams Xtreme Energy cams to show the bigger manifolds potential.) I would love to see the results! Thanks for your hard work..

For your question on springs: I Recently put together a gen 6 with stock heads, used crane 99896 springs, Comp rotator eliminators, crane 99970 retainers, and some .050 taller locks. They are a dual spring so I did have to cut down the guides for seals, and to clear my cam’s lift of 598 on the exhaust. But each spring was installed at 1.900 or a few thousands shorter. No coil bind issues with those springs

@richardholdener1727

3 жыл бұрын

cutting guides would curve our problem too

Ever thought about doing a new gen 8.1l

@richardholdener1727

3 жыл бұрын

yes

Great series. When swapping a junkyard motor it would be great to know how the motor is selected in the yard and parts to replace for cheap insurance (eg, timing chain, oil pump, rings, etc.)

@albertgaspar627

3 жыл бұрын

Avoid vehicles hit hard enough in the ass the rear axle is moved forward. There's a chance the driveshaft has acted like a battering ram and pushed on the trans enough to move the crank a bit (that will require a minimum of main journal machining to repair, if it can be done). Check for signs of massive leaks--oil attracts dirt, gasoline cleans what it touches. Look in the radiator, a rainbow sheen suggests oil got into the water--either a crack or a bad head gasket. If it looks like French Vanilla ice cream, that could be just condensation. Pull the dipstick--if it looks like it was blowing oil, that could just be a bad PCV. If it has none of these sins, put a breaker bar on the crank snout and see if the engine spins. If its freed up, then pay about what you could get back selling the individual parts of the engine (in case closer inspection reveals a bad engine). Take home, do a compression test (unless you're good at doing it with a bicycle pump at the junkyard). If you're putting the engine into an actual vehicle instead of a dyno, there's a 50% chance your water pump is too short or too long for the radiator, so replace it and timing chain and you're probably doing a cam swap at this time (nastier the cam, the more you have to pull the heads to check with clay for valve clash. good idea to check valvetrain lash and make sure the rocker arms aren't shaving themselves into the oil). If you're replacing the piston rings, you're doing a rebuild, not a freshening up. But if you plan on boost, you want a big ring end gap so the rings don't butt together. Chances are a high mileage engine already has done it for you. If you swap to headers, soak the flange gaskets overnight in water, and install wet. They'll form to fit, and retighten after firing off and drying off. If this was some engine made before the 1980's chances are the oil is sludge. This is the ONLY time someone should clean with gasoline. Pour some of the leftover lawnmower gas in thru the intake (if you do it thru the valve covers, it can eat the rubber valve seals, but you're probably gonna replace them sooner rather than later anyway) and slosh the engine around on a stand or 'picker. It won't clean all the sludge, but after you run some modern oil (ie, detergent), you might be no worse off than any other used engine. Final issue with any engine swap is the radiator--its full of whatever rusty scale was in the old engine, do you want that in the "new" one? The cheap-o block clean is to run a cap of laundry detergent in the rad and get the engine up to operating temp--in other words, turn it into a washing machine. Then flush the block out totally, refill cooling, burp it totally of air (put front end of car up in air, drill tiny hole in thermostat, leave alone for all air to bubble into highest part of rad, then run with a funnel full of coolant until it stops blowing bubbles). and that's the shade tree mechanic way.

@docjnsn73a

3 жыл бұрын

@@albertgaspar627 thanks for taking the time to write this up. That's great advice

@albertgaspar627

3 жыл бұрын

@@docjnsn73a glad to help. i love these youtube videos, i had to buy car magazines to learn what i did, and even then sharing the advice meant one or two people at a cruise night willing to listen.

I'm working on a gen 6 right now. Upgrading most of the top end. New cam shaft, lifters, push rods, brodix heads, scorpion rocker arms, Holley sniper EFI, new short headers and a couple other parts. I'm not an expert, but hoping for the best.

Have a 2000 454 CK3500. Old body style. Got it new. 22k miles. Doug Thorley Tri-Y headers and build a new twin high flow cat system. Still has to pass smog.

Richard the beehive can handle three times the hertz and useing a coil bind clearance tightly when the valves surge the light bind will momentarily steady the valve this is a very new and I have experienced it in my work even the hick-up of floating only to clean up on the late shift

@richardholdener1727

2 жыл бұрын

WE NORMALLY RUN THEM CLOSE TO COIL BIND IN PERFORMANCE APPLICATIONS-THAT IS NOT NEW

Excellent video Richard. Next, late model fuelie 460. Not the dove heads or anything from "back in the day". North east rust belt there's lots of '90's 460's and while everyone say "get a set of blah, blah, blah heads, I want to know how well it works with the factory low compression, too big of quench area and poor factory ports. Run it efi, then dual plane and 650 ( or 750 vac sec) then put on headers, then a torque cam. (214/224@.050 and 512/536 lift for example). Loved the older 460 but up here in the east, if it's older than 20 years it's already rusted out and gone. But, lots of 88-95 f350's just waiting for a hot rodder in the junk yards. Thanks.

Thanks for the Gen IV 454 l29 performance tips. I’m currently running the l29 in a k2500 suburban with a snorkel fed, Custom box to a 102mm tb adapter plate to the Stock intake manifold with a lil bit of upper manifold port work. Basic Ignition upgrades, coil, wires, plugs; exiting out JBA 1 7/8” shorties to a dual cat, dual turndown post Magnaflow dual X muffler. Im researching now for a Fuel Injector, ECU flash Camshaft, Dual Roller, Spring upgrade, and I’m in the same boat with the spring and rotator shim selection. I’m also researching on how large of a injector will I need on the stock ecu with HP tuners or stock Injectors with FPR adjustment, but I’m definitely picking up the compXR cam for this build. Thanks for the expert advise, Keep them coming Richard.

@drs2000rr

3 жыл бұрын

VI gen . Lol

Wow -That NOS !

Very cool

Great content did you ever figure out a better spring that wouldn't bind. Im gonna do this combo and put it in my chevelle thanks!

Great stuff as always! Very much appreciated as I learn the mods. How do you tackle the basic thing like getting rid of those pesky oil cooler lines? Is it as simple as sticking some npt plugs into the 2 holes,in replace of those 2 lines. Thanks

@richardholdener1727

3 жыл бұрын

pipe plugs

@UcantBeSerious03

3 жыл бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 outstanding! thank you!

How about a video on engine management set ups??? I love the testing but craving the knowledge

I know it’s probably tedious but you should do an episode on how much power is lost by each accessory added.

I gotta stop watching this.... you're making me look at my 98 k2500 in a whole new dirty way 😂

Wonder what mods I’d have to do to a 5.3 to make similar tq #’s like my bbc 🤔 that way I could get wayy better fuel mileage and still have torque for towing 💪🏻 that’d be a fun adventure on the dyno 🤗 great video sir, keep’em coming!

@richardholdener1727

3 жыл бұрын

boost

@orangetruckman

3 жыл бұрын

Richard Holdener -I’m that would b the cure. My question would be: Boost from a turbo or roots style supercharger 🤔 it’s a 1978 Chevy, 6,000 pound empty 3/4 ton 4x4 truck. The bbc I currently have makes 450 ft-lbs @ 2,500rpm and 400 hp @ 5,000rpm. I’d like to get more grunt down low and know that modifying a 5.3l would be a must! But would it actually be able to compare to a 454 when giving it the beans 💁🏼‍♂️ I’m so done with 6-7 mpg, but I don’t want to lose that torque 🥺

Im currently building a vortec 6 i plan on running the factory efi and adding turbo please do a video on this set up with a comp cam

love my "j" code 454 in my 99 k2500 but lets see more tests on the 3800 buick

Can you do a video on how to run nitrous? Changes in plugs timing on pump gas.

Try doing a y block Ford. I just saw one complete in the wrecking yard. Had a Holley carb on it.

Bro we watch you doing all these common engines all the time but you seem to skip over an engine that has a massive production number and is completely beloved by it's owners.. the 4.0 jeep. We all know it doesn't make big numbers but it should still be considered for this KZread. Thanks 😁

Hey Richard. Did you ever figure out a different combination of springs with the XR276? I am getting ready to swap in a L29 into my 79 c10, and putting together a “shopping list”.. EFI or Carb has been quite an internal debate..

@jimbauer2221

2 жыл бұрын

I have a 1999 Gen VI and purchased this Cam, Xtreme Energy XR276HR Hydraulic Roller Camshaft, Lift: .510"/.510" Duration: 276/282 Lobe Separation Angle: 110° from Comp and they told me to use spring 911-16. It is a single spring with a coil bind height of 1.2" I haven't installed yet but will shortly.

Richard. Back in the day, a friend of mine had a 82 mustang with a pretty stout 302. It was set up with the Z cam, victor jr intake, a 750 double pumper, headers, etc. The only thing was he was using a set of small chambered 289 heads (for compression) that were ported and had 1.940" intake and 1.600" exhaust valves. He would shoot a 100 shot on it and it would gain 150 at the wheels vs no nitrous. Have you ever had a nitrous experience where the the oxygen was so bottlenecked that the power jumped higher on NO2 than the jet ratings?

@richardholdener1727

3 жыл бұрын

there is no magic--the amount of nitrous supplied to the motor dictates the power gain

I'd like to see a turbo on s stock 454!! With maybe a cam and injectors!

We need that gen 6 454 big bang

How dare you release a Big Block Video while I am at work!!!!

@richardholdener1727

3 жыл бұрын

It will be there when you get off

Edelbrock heads.. like 454R or NHRA BBC are cheap when ordered bare. Alot of times you're running your own springs and rockers anyway.

I like the content…. big block my favorite choice of engines. I’m also interested bbc 496cid 8.1 vortec. Do you have any content or near future making one.

I would like see that cam swap on stock intake results

Would love to see this same test but with TBI

I love Big Block Chevys. there is nothing as cool as popping the hood and seeing those massive valve covers. I see tons of LS swaps, but it is just an ugly engine. even with the covers on it. where the visual impact of a BBC is just awesome. not to mention the only thing that beats an LS for power is a BBC.

@scoutdogfsr

3 жыл бұрын

LS is bad ass modern power, but she is an ugly lump at best. I agree 100% that a BB looks beautiful especially under a c/k truck hood.

STILL WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SEE THE DYNO #S ON THE CAMMED BIG BLOCK WITH NITROUS. WE KNOW WHAT THEY ROUGHLY BE. BUT BIG #'S = BIG 😁

@richardholdener1727

2 ай бұрын

that video is up

Just out of curiosity, is there a correlation between engine and price? EG, Mopar 360 vs GM 350 vs Ford 5 liter. Is there a price difference for gen changes? What is the average price you pay for engines, and is that a special price for your volume? Love all the testing and the knowledge you share. Thanks for sharing.

@richardholdener1727

3 жыл бұрын

Pic a Part has the pricing listed-you get better deals on their 40% off weekends-I get 3-4 sometimes then

What size jets did you run in the carb setup? Looking for a good starting point. I'm doing the same cam with engine swap currently.

I'm wondering what would it take to shift that power curve to be able to have lower torque sooner and to be able to Rev out out to 7,000...dish pistons,better cylinder heads,different camshaft and springs,better intake? 🤷‍♂️ how about a NA Big Bang 454...wondering could this engine make 700-800hp NA without a crazy amount of low end torque

I'd like to see you do a boosted 8.1 Vortec.

Love the big block content I'm rebuilding the gen six big block in my 2000 k3500 an I can't run a carb because of emission's in PA what kind of cam can I run in my big block with the fuel injection

@richardholdener1727

3 жыл бұрын

they have milder ones

Skipped a step compared to the standard LS tests? A small (218/220ish?) though bigger than factory cam used with factory efi since you can tune for it easy enough with the Holley system. Just for those guys that actually use them in a truck/suv? Do ported factory heads or just bigger valves and a bowl port make difference with the stock efi manifold. Does a bigger throttle body make difference, does the abrasive silly putty help the factory manifold enough to warrant the expense in a truck application. Many steps Missed/omitted, not to mention the rumored gen V/VI Hybrid motor test??

Im very impatient to see that engine with twin gt45 ebay turbos or maybe a twin s480 BG turbos

@patlandymore7035

3 жыл бұрын

I have a Factory Five Hot Rod pickup with a BBC and a home built single kit using an S488 billet clone. It’s AWESOMELY torquey!! It will be great when he does it...just wait!

@tachrev351

3 жыл бұрын

There should be a video somewhere on this channel of this exact setup. Richard has already run this motor with a single GT45, twin GT45's, and I believe an s480.

Love the BB chevy content. I would especially like to see a 396/402 as these can be had for little $ compared to a 454, even if they may be slightly harder to source.

@yamahaguy1732

Жыл бұрын

I like the 396 because it makes Big block power but acts more like a small block.

I wonder if this cam would be a good fit for a boat application

Personally I blame squirrels

@patlandymore7035

3 жыл бұрын

....for all the beautiful Big Block goodness! 🐿

I would love to see a cam swap with the factory EFI intake.

@LightningFast240

3 жыл бұрын

about to do that to mine, hand port as well with a 102mm LS throttle body just for shits lol

Is it possible for you to show a Dyno graph with stock setup and jeep 4.0 single hole injectors on this 454. Did this to my 98 and it feels smoother.

What would you build a 98 vortex 5.7 up to(low buck lol) I haven’t seen you build one. You always put the vortex heads on a older block but never build a full roller.

Can you please make video doing a cam swap with the factory fuel injection? Also can you tell me how to run the 454 vortec with out the factory computer? I have a 2 vortec 1 in my suburban and the other 1 I want to put in my blazer

Is there a cam upgrade that doesn't require upgraded springs?

Could you do an episode with that new sniper Holly against the factory TPI with injectors and a fuel pump that's been upgraded and see the difference please

Run the stock efi gen IV 454 with 454 ho camshaft and stock efi intake with long tubes.

The 22 thumbs downers are all ford boys that have to spend twice as much for half the numbers.

@Richard Holdener You almost got what I wanted. Factory intake with cam upgrade.

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I got two of these gen6 bbcs. One with Performer RPM 100cc heads and performer rpm roller makes like 580+hp

@LightningFast240

3 жыл бұрын

damn really?

@LightningFast240

3 жыл бұрын

did you have to change the pistons to run the performer heads?

@Turbo_Todd

3 жыл бұрын

@@LightningFast240 No changes needed with the 100cc version heads. Bolt on and go. Car i put it in runs hi 10s on pump gas.

@Turbo_Todd

3 жыл бұрын

@@LightningFast240 yes sir. Revs to 6500. Ran a 180 shot on it and went 10.0s. Just put a good oil pump and good pan on it for revving over 5000rpm.

With the risease Not too much flea market action Even scoping yard sales

Of course I'd like to see a test with a bigger cam. Did you play with the timing with this cam?

@richardholdener1727

3 жыл бұрын

just ran it

Would love to see aluminum performance heads tested on the gen 6 454

@richardholdener1727

3 жыл бұрын

that video is up

@w41duvernay

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardholdener1727 Where?

Bro! Now put the EFI back on, run it and add a turbo.

So can I get a rebuild tutorial for the gen 6 I'm trying to get a head job and rebuild the rest myself

Love these videos!!!!!!

Do you have part#s of msd distributors and holley harness you used in the first test? Thanks

also does comp have a cam for these gen 6 motors that u think would achieve pretty equal hp and torque w an airgap and carb or tbi? i might find myself w an old forest ranger truck w the l21 i think? the commercial version supposedly w forged crank n pistons

@richardholdener1727

3 жыл бұрын

the cam can't do that-there will always be a difference between the EFI intake and the dual plane