Lost in Translation: If the Historical Emmanuel is NOT Jesus Who is He?

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A plain historical reading of Isaiah 7 and 8 in context reveals that Immanuel is NOT Jesus or any Messiah--it is Isaiah's Son!
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  • @ayzmalo5553
    @ayzmalo555317 күн бұрын

    Dr. Tabor’s commentary and insight on these passages of the Bible are so informational and helpful

  • @hectorm.bordonada1761
    @hectorm.bordonada176118 күн бұрын

    Beautiful lesson Dr.Tabor as usual I tried so long to bring this to light, and here you have done it so effortlessly with such precision and it not being so lengthy! Thank you I have passed and shared this teaching along to my family. 💯😇🙏🏼 looking forward to the next one.😊

  • @johnfoster6412
    @johnfoster641217 күн бұрын

    Thank you so much! So simple when you see it laid out plainly, without agenda.

  • @jdaze1
    @jdaze117 күн бұрын

    Bottom line: the SIGN was given to king Ahaz and none of the events of the prophecy occurred in the 1st century. No one can twist scripture enough to make the prophecy fit the 1st century.

  • @jf5177

    @jf5177

    13 күн бұрын

    Unless you mistranslate it!

  • @mrlume9475
    @mrlume947517 күн бұрын

    Love this content, Dr Tabor. You have opened my mind to the meaning of the text. Thank you

  • @lindabishop1402
    @lindabishop140218 күн бұрын

    Beautiful ending piece, thank you. ❤ hope you have peace ✌️ 🙏 with the unexpected passing of someone close to you, sir. GOD bless. ❤

  • @Kentucky_Blue
    @Kentucky_Blue4 күн бұрын

    Enjoying them very much thank you.

  • @davidfolts5893
    @davidfolts589318 күн бұрын

    Thanks, Dr. Tabor. I probably sang that word a thousand times without knowing it.

  • @llhpark
    @llhpark18 күн бұрын

    Timing, beyond comedy or tennis, just yesterday, the name in question, I briefly pondered. Nice to meet you friend.

  • @neclark08

    @neclark08

    17 күн бұрын

    ...Huh..?

  • @isaacott3230
    @isaacott323018 күн бұрын

    May Hashem bless you, good Dr.

  • @roberthawes3093
    @roberthawes309317 күн бұрын

    Thanks, Dr. Tabor. Regarding Handel's "Messiah," I'm finding that one of the things I've missed most since my faith collapsed is the music. Christianity has produced some of the most beautiful music the world has ever seen.

  • @oneherenow622
    @oneherenow62218 күн бұрын

    Well done. I was reminded of the oral tradition that rejects both the literal and figurative interpretation of the scriptures. The Neoplatonic attempt at syncretism (which became Christianity) used a Greek algorithm to portray the same essential tale. IMO, Emanuel is more than Isaiah's son and more than the man Jesus...simply and profoundly "God with us"

  • @jonk777
    @jonk77717 күн бұрын

    The early church said the enemies of Jesus started the virgin birth myth to cause confusion. Someone wrote about it back then and that a correction needs to be made but they never fixed it. Try to tell a Christian now and you have abandon your faith in their eyes. It doesn’t matter how Jesus was sent if you acknowledge he came in the flesh. I’ve seen crazy supernatural things using the Authority of His name. I cannot deny, and would not deny that He took control of the spiritual realm and conquered death. With all the bad religion and doctrines I would of thought it was all ridiculous after studying deeply into the Abrahamic faiths. Impossible now having tested the name of Yeshua and being astonished. I’m fortunate I tested the name because it’s made me dig deeper and not give up but find answers. Jesus said beware of the scribes and the church never took that seriously, probably because they represent the scribes. It’s actually very said the depths of their delusions, these hirelings pastors have zero answers to hard questions. I cringe during sermons so stopped going to church, it’s like it hurts the Spirit inside me. People talk about a great deception that’s coming, and I’m sure the aliens will come deceiving, but the biggest deception has already taken place long ago. I don’t think people actually read their bibles, or they just don’t understand the words of their Shepherd, so they can’t hear Him. He said no one has seen or heard the Father, and all who came before me are thieves and robbers. He also said of those born of a women none are greater than John the Baptist, this gives you two options, Jesus wasn’t born, or Mary wasn’t a women as we understand them. If you cannot come to the true understanding of these statements you have bought into the delusion and your Father is the Beast. I think the majority of Christians are tricked into blasphemy of the Spirit as they apply evil actions to the Spirit. The truth is troubling and people don’t like to be uncomfortable, it’s written the adversary will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many. This will be fulfilled and has been being fulfilled for a very long time. Jesus didn’t say I will send you a pastor, He didn’t say I will send you a perfect Bible, He said I will sent you a Spirit of Truth. If we needed a Spirit of Truth then it’s to use as truth is found in corruption because we have an enemy. Saying the Bible is infallible when the Bible itself tells you it contains lies is delusional.

  • @AsenathMoon

    @AsenathMoon

    16 күн бұрын

    @jonk777🎉🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💣💪💪💪💪💙💙💙Agree 1 Million Times

  • @RustyWalker
    @RustyWalker18 күн бұрын

    Interesting question. I never considered that when I had a faith and believed all the OT was prophesying about Jesus.

  • @jaydee6414
    @jaydee64146 күн бұрын

    Great video. It drives me potty trying to point this out to people, I mean it's right there openly in the text. I used to think the child was Hezekiah & the young woman was his mother, one of Ahaz's queens, but I read something once that reckoned Hezekiah had already been born at the point the prophecy was given.

  • @BobMarley-sr8re
    @BobMarley-sr8re18 күн бұрын

    If lucifer took a 1 third of heaven, and 200 watchers don't line up, who's satan

  • @OrlandoHofmann-qt7mx

    @OrlandoHofmann-qt7mx

    17 күн бұрын

    Satan is a separate angel, the watchers weren't angel's in the sense of agel bc real angel's have no free will, only a certain range to inter/act & to decide what to do within that range Azazel & his following watchers made their own decisions - Christianity put Satan, Azazel & the angel of death (if not even more) & made 1 being out of them for whatever reason...& the strangest thing is that they named it 'Luzifer' - a term Yeshua used to describe himself...the point likely is that the biblical God is the devil, the Lord of this world aka Y.H.W.H. - not the all-creator Yeshua called the 'father in heaven' So Yeshua is a satan (in its meaning, not as a name) to/wards YHWH... And the highest priests may it be in Judaism or Christianity very well aware of who they really warship - just take a look at Vatican & the pope...it's more than obviously & that's the reason why they twisted Yeshuas words & messages to lead the believers astray

  • @mooshei8165

    @mooshei8165

    16 күн бұрын

    Satan is God henchmen.

  • @cruzefrank
    @cruzefrank16 күн бұрын

    I wish there was a way to have access to your notes. Great video and very informative

  • @staceylandfield5002
    @staceylandfield500218 күн бұрын

    thank you James

  • @pamelacain2541
    @pamelacain254118 күн бұрын

    Thank you for this illuminating video.

  • @Zaid26127
    @Zaid2612718 күн бұрын

    Awesome! This answers my comment

  • @mattdavis2985
    @mattdavis298518 күн бұрын

    Yes thank you I came across 12 years old video Jesus was a Buddhist Monk you did share some information I was looking for so thank you again ? Why the people in Philippine go through the Crucifixion was hard to watch

  • @danielhopkins296

    @danielhopkins296

    18 күн бұрын

    The Buddhist link to Cyrus , who Isaiah calls "Messiah", or " Christ" is the title Cyrus is the Indian tribe name Kurus as Cambyses is a namesake of the Kambojas who the Buddhist converted during the reign of Cambyses. The archeologist Flinders Petrie unearthed an Indian Buddha at the Memphis Ptah temple dated to the time of Cambyses. The Buddhist Gautamas married into the Kurus as Cyrus' lineage includes the name Codomannus, the Sanskrit Gautaman which is a variant of Gautama. Sanskritists etymologize Kuru from "Karoti"the superlative case of Prakrit Charyas. At a certain time , if they were not originally the same word, Charyas is conflated with Gurus. This supports that Pythagoras was a BuddhaCharyas (Ptah-Osiris?) or Buddha's-Guru. Dr Clyde Winters has found the African Meroe adopted the Buddhist Kharosthi script and Sans 'karoti' also means "writing", Hebrew Kharosheth (Christ)

  • @marilynsamaniego4652
    @marilynsamaniego465212 күн бұрын

    And it doesn’t say “shall conceive”. It says has conceived. Someone later changed the tense

  • @Love-One-Another

    @Love-One-Another

    8 күн бұрын

    Actually "harah" in Hebrew is just "pregnant." Not passed tense. And it states, "I will give a sign." So that is future tense. Also, Emanu El is two words in the original Hebrew, which translates, Emanu (with us) and El (GOD). So yes, Jesus was called GOD and it states He was with us. Why Emanu El was ever translated as one word is beyond me. Anyone whether you know Hebrew or not can look that up and see it is two words in the Hebrew. Read Isaiah 8:10 and Emanu El is properly translated as "GOD with us." So why state it as a single word name in one verse and not the other?

  • @altonlg24
    @altonlg2416 күн бұрын

    @~ 10:00 for Isaiah 8:1 , the בַּֽז part in the name seemed off, so I looked at the DSS. There it appears as בו. How would you translate the name then?

  • @pazrahamim9220
    @pazrahamim922017 күн бұрын

    Kudos Dr. Tabor. You're absolutely correct ☺️💯🙏🏼

  • @revelator5754
    @revelator57549 күн бұрын

    There are 283 quotes from the O.T. in the new testament. Out of context and circumstantial describes the N.T. for me.

  • @wiard
    @wiard17 күн бұрын

    In Genesis 24 Rebekah is called both virgin and maiden.

  • @nubtube7313
    @nubtube731313 күн бұрын

    Question for Dr. Tabor: You clarified the meaning of the text as it relates to a virgin and a young women. But I was wondering if any distinction can be made going the other way? Consider a women that gets married on her 17th birthday, and nine months later gives birth to a child. She is still 17, still a young women, but now she is caring for a child. Is there any distinction between a young women presumed to be a virgin, and a young women who already has children?

  • @singingdonkey620
    @singingdonkey62018 күн бұрын

    Isaiah 11 has the manchild he is very mysterious and talks to animals like dr Doolittle.should be interesting when we see him.

  • @Love-One-Another
    @Love-One-Another8 күн бұрын

    Isaiah 7:14 states, "I will give a sign." So that is future tense. Also, Emanu El is two words in the original Hebrew, which translates, Emanu (with us) and El (GOD). So yes, Jesus was called GOD and it states He was with us. Isaiah 8:10 propely translates Emanu El as, "GOD with us."

  • @milamihaylova-blagoeva9909
    @milamihaylova-blagoeva990917 күн бұрын

    Thank You for Your honest work, James Tabor! May I share with You a sample of the same passage analyzed by an orthodox Jew (Ariel Cohen Alloro, whose work I quote, entitled - 'The Second Coming of the Messiah'. ) Quote ( from the theme ): " In the moment that the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil is connected to the Tree of Life, the good and evil become ‘butter and honey,’ like is mentioned in the story of the birth of Immanuel (Isaiah 7:14 -16). So Jesus in the first coming was ‘above the Torah.’ ‘Immanuel,’ before he got to the knowledge of the difference between good and evil, before he ate butter and honey, “all the land was left,” this is the first coming of Jesus and this prophecy was given to Ahaz, to fix his sin that he asked help from Ashur (Assyria) against the Ten Tribes, when Ashur came and destroyed the nation of the Ten Tribes, whom we call the ‘Tree of Yosef.’ The ‘Tree of Yosef’ equals ‘Yeshu’ (both 316 in Gematria). It’s interesting. It’s like he came from the same place, spiritually. So like Jesus said, “I have other sheep besides you guys, in another place, and I will give my life to this other sheep” (John 10:16 ), and of course, he talked about the Ten Tribes that were lost in another place and he was given away to the Nations, so the Ten Tribes that were lost in Europe through Christianity will come back in the end of time to Am Yisrael. " - end quote. James Tabor, sir, It would be wonderful if You, who know the basics of the Gospel and the Biblical texts, could have a discussion on this topic with Ariel Cohen Alloro, who analyzes the Gospel through the prism of the Torah codes. Thank You! God* Bless You and Keep You, dear James!

  • @monicasmithtofantheflames3733
    @monicasmithtofantheflames373318 күн бұрын

    Dr. Tabor please look into JESUS BARABBAS, Barabba translates to 'son of the father'. I'm sure you know this, what is this some switch? A teaching on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your studies.

  • @downenout8705

    @downenout8705

    17 күн бұрын

    The inclusion of the Barabbas character into the crucifixion narrative, turns Jesus's death into the ultimate Yom Kipper blood sacrifice. Jesus Christ being the sacrificial "lamb" and Barabbas being the "lamb" cast into the desert to carry away the sins of the people.

  • @mihailgae-draghici4864

    @mihailgae-draghici4864

    17 күн бұрын

    yeah, 1. Jesus Barabbas, 2. Jesus who is called Christ, Matthew XXVII 17, verse censored by the church.

  • @lisabenoit5147
    @lisabenoit514718 күн бұрын

    Yes, the Holy Text is both Historical evidence with what James is pointing to historically but also remember that these are HOLY texts. Holy INSPIRIED and IT is, therefore Spirit-filled to lead future generations. Same stories, handed down over TIME. The Word is living and active. We need the lens of the Holy Spirit to properly INTERPRET God's Word. The Author knows what the Author means. Men merely scribed ... just penned the inspired words. God uses His Word to shed light in the heart/mind of every person. God gives direct revelation and we gage the revelation with and by His written Word. Revelation is Spirit. We receive words from the Holy Spirit who uses THE Word as reference points. So, "revelation" is privately and intimately "CONCEIVED" ... within us. Its LIKE a seed that planted in a spiritual "womb". "Knitted in our mother's womb is a spiritually reference. We receive it "purely" ... Like a Virgin ... and NO, not like THAT Madonna. Rather like how a young woman who has never been "touched" by man-made pre-conceived NOTIONS. No indoctrinations ... Just receiving the revelation download ... "purely"... direct from the Holy Spirit. GOD is with us ... His Holy Spirit and His Truth are WITH ... US. Its by Divine Design.

  • @michaelsaxton7966
    @michaelsaxton796618 күн бұрын

    Wait......Where's the typewriter? Are you a doppelganger? Where's my Dr. Tabor and what have you done with His beautiful machine?

  • @user-jr7xk7ox4o

    @user-jr7xk7ox4o

    18 күн бұрын

    Ok . that's funny.

  • @rogerlafrance6355
    @rogerlafrance635518 күн бұрын

    Almah is used only seven times in the OT and in each case, some sort of special different young woman. Would using this word, rather than the many other words to chose from change the meaning? It is interesting that many early text refer to Mary as a temple virgin.

  • @Thomasw540
    @Thomasw54017 күн бұрын

    Jimmy, this video reminds me of Lincoln's parable about the five-legged dog if you count his tail as a leg, I know you want to anoint David Koresh as the true Emanuel, but pretending Jesus isn't historic won't make a leg out of a dog's tail.

  • @DrunkbutSmart

    @DrunkbutSmart

    16 күн бұрын

    If a dog can potentially have infinite legs while still maintaining to be a dog, then it is quite possible for what appears to be a tail to actually be a fifth leg. Your logic is circular. It uses its conclusion as a premise for itself.

  • @Thomasw540

    @Thomasw540

    16 күн бұрын

    @@DrunkbutSmart My logic never escapes the gravitational pull of noumenal substance. If a dog can potentially have infinite legs, it isn't a dog, but some other construct assembled in some infinite but generally unavailable existence, My logic, if circular, is dictated by the constraints of the finite nature of the dog, This holds especially true for the finite nature of the literature of the Bible, Jimmy Tabor's woulda, coulda, shoulda approach to liturgical revisionism delivers nothing but the moral confusion he amplified for David Koresh at Waco. He is constantly proving that a frog won't bump its ass when he hips if it had wings. It's the nature of his Marxist form of inquiry,

  • @eloyfenocchi579
    @eloyfenocchi57913 күн бұрын

    34 Then Mary said to the angel, “How can this be, since I do not know a man?” 35 And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God.

  • @BrghtScorpio

    @BrghtScorpio

    4 күн бұрын

    This is exactly the issue, the author of Matthew knows the scriptures, he most likely quoted from Isaiah in his narrative, to shape Jesus as fulfilling prophecy, While that was not the case.

  • @davidcrane6593
    @davidcrane659318 күн бұрын

    But you just said its referring to the 2nd child... so a "virgin" is not applicable. Isaiahs 1st son(shearjashshub)-->3¶Then said the LORD unto Isaiah, Go forth now to meet Ahaz, thou, and Shearjashub thy son, at the end of the conduit of the upper pool in the highway of the fuller's field;

  • @MrTeapotpixie
    @MrTeapotpixie18 күн бұрын

    James, please see the works of Ralph Ellis. You're welcome.

  • @BobMarley-sr8re
    @BobMarley-sr8re18 күн бұрын

    And actually God saved some of the nefelim that repented

  • @WBFbySteefen
    @WBFbySteefen17 күн бұрын

    It has been Christianized. The biblical Jesus represented the Messiah who would free Israel. To free Israel politically would mean to free Israel from Roman governors who were abusive. To free Israel would mean to have a Jewish Revolt. In the first century, there was a Manu royal line which supported Jewish Messianism. Let God be with the Messiah and let God be with the Messiah movement. Let God be with Manu so we can win this thing. The biblical Jesus is a composite character of historical fiction. Jesus was Jesus of Gamala who fought the Battle of Galilee (and lost). Jesus' disciple Simon Peter was Simon bar Giora who fought against Rome. Jesus' disciple John was John of Gischala who fought against Rome. // Simon what is it to you what becomes of John? John did not get a death sentence from Rome. Peter, you will be taken where you do not want to go. Peter was taken and put in the Roman triumph parade and then executed. Steve Campbell - author of Historical Accuracy

  • @experiencemystique4982
    @experiencemystique498216 күн бұрын

    My question Sir...if " my words are Spirit and Truth" if " thé Word was made flesh" if nobody else could see "thé God of the Prophètes, but everyone knew they were Prophètes...maybe some "concept " is not equivalent to " our understanding " and we must "seek to find, knock to be opened" you use phrases but when the phrase is seeing applied you didn't see the concept applied, you judge the "traditional understanding " even if you are seeing is contradictory...

  • @johnvanmanen3149
    @johnvanmanen314918 күн бұрын

    Notice that @ 14 minutes Is 8:18 it states that the LORD of hosts dwell on Mount Zion, not inside the temple!!

  • @amoswittenbergsmusings

    @amoswittenbergsmusings

    18 күн бұрын

    Solomon who built the Holy Temple knew this very well. Read 1 Kings 8 with Solomon's prayer.

  • @johnvanmanen3149

    @johnvanmanen3149

    18 күн бұрын

    @@amoswittenbergsmusings but there it is said that god lives in heaven, not on mount zion... funny how they try to convince people that god lives outside of life, where there is the breath inside that makes us alive..

  • @michelhaineault6654
    @michelhaineault665412 күн бұрын

    This is true.

  • @BobMarley-sr8re
    @BobMarley-sr8re18 күн бұрын

    Yahweh, jesus said he's Lord we got problems, don't worry be happy bobby mcferrin

  • @scienceexplains302
    @scienceexplains3026 күн бұрын

    *Isaiah 7:14 Cannot be about Jesus* We don’t have to look beyond 7:14 , but I’m glad Dr Tabor did. Isaiah prophesies that a young woman 1. whom they know )so not 700 years in the future ) and 2. who is already pregnant, (so not about a woman 700 years later) 3. as a sign to Ahaz (so not occuring 700 years later) 4. Signs are visible and not necessarily miraculous. A woman not having sex is not visible. 5. will bear a son whom she will name Immanuel (Not Jesus) - but this is a weak point since names in the Hebrew Bible represent character, not text on a birth certificate. 6. Will have life experiences different from Jesus’ 7. within 8 years of the prophecy, the sign will be completed. There is nothing long-term or miraculous about the sign and it contains no mention of a messiah.

  • @coldhandjacinth9069
    @coldhandjacinth906918 күн бұрын

    Some history examination information is a coded as 'Lumpy Rutherford' 52% correct, 'Eddie Haskell' 61% correct, Wallace Cleaver, 92% correct. Yczequiel's gospel is clear and does not conflict with our works being weighed 'in the balance' . Wicked acts negate previous good works; a consistent 'I'll resist sin' strategy negates past wicked acts. Yczequiel had difficult tests, including the loss of his wife who may have been a hinderance to his duties; nevertheless, you'll always find some people who refuse to be corrected because they enjoy their indulgences, immorality, murderous provocations and financial gains generated by deception, thievery and continually offensive government war departments . Why do I mention Yczequiel? Because the fruits of 'Jesus' based religions are extremely tainted and extremely $ based and some people may need a prophet other than 'Jesus' to turn to for correction if they are jarred by Mr. Tabor's reasonable Isaiah 7&8 perspective and Yczequiel 7 offers plenty of warnings.

  • @KendraAndTheLaw
    @KendraAndTheLaw18 күн бұрын

    It's almost as if Christians never read the source Hebrew scriptures in context. Whoever wrote the gospel of Matthew blundered.

  • @hardwork8395

    @hardwork8395

    18 күн бұрын

    So true. But at the same time the bigger issue with those who have are the exegetical methods they use. They’ve made up apologetic methods to wave away the plain reading of texts. Take Dual Fulfillment/Dual Prophecy, in this instance. They’ll claim not only did this prophecy fulfill itself literally then, but god in his foreknowledge and infinite wisdom planned on that prophecy also being fulfilled metaphorically in Jesus.

  • @scripturalcontexts

    @scripturalcontexts

    18 күн бұрын

    Dr Tabor discussed this issue in the first video in this discussion on the identity of Immanuel, but his assessment was a little bit more generous than declaring it an outright blunder.

  • @amoswittenbergsmusings

    @amoswittenbergsmusings

    18 күн бұрын

    He did not blunder. He lied.

  • @scripturalcontexts

    @scripturalcontexts

    18 күн бұрын

    @@amoswittenbergsmusings I suppose then that the rabbis recorded in the Mishna and the Talmud must have been lying as well since they often pull scriptural passages from their original contexts and used them as proof texts for various things which they did not originally refer to, which would never hold up to snuff using modern exegetical practices. 2nd Temple and early rabbinic Jews had different ways of citing scripture and often could perceive more than one meaning in them, see for example how the book of Habakkuk was interpreted by the Qumran community as referring to the teacher of righteousness and speaking to their contemporary situations. Being the fact that first century Jews were very influential in early christianity, it only is natural that the traditions that underlie the Gospels would use and interact with the Jewish scriptures in a similar fashion according to the hermeneutical principles of the time.

  • @tonygarcia0072

    @tonygarcia0072

    18 күн бұрын

    Romans 3:7,KJV: "For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto His glory, why yet am I also judged as a sinner?". How would you interpret this passage in the light of Dr. Tabor's explanation?

  • @jamestrotter3162
    @jamestrotter316217 күн бұрын

    " So all this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying: " Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel," which is translated, "God with us."- Matt. 1:22 -23. Many prophecies have an immediate fulfillment, and a future fulfillment. Isaiah's son was the immediate fulfillment, and the Lord Jesus is the future fulfillment. Also, since all Scripture is breathed out by God (inspired), that would include what Matthew wrote concerning the birth of Christ. Surely you don't reject the Gospel of Matthew as being the inspired, written word of God! The Holy Spirit spoke and wrote through the writers of the New Testament in the same way that He spoke and wrote through the writers of the Old Testament. All of it is the word of God.

  • @move_i_got_this5659

    @move_i_got_this5659

    17 күн бұрын

    Abraham also had a miracle child that represents Jesus. Job sacrificed for his children and suffered when he was innocent, a representation of Jesus. Even after Jesus, the Israelites were destroyed and till this day they still don’t do sacrifices.

  • @jawnatutorow

    @jawnatutorow

    12 күн бұрын

    Personally, as I'm learning how the new testament was put together, I've come to the conclusion that if it doesn't correlate with the old testament it isn't true. The virgin birth specifically doesn't fit the old testament, if Jesus was born of a virgin then the prophecy about coming through the Davidic line didn't occur. And no, biblically it doesn't come through the mother. So it's either he fulfilled the obvious and clear prophecy or he is half God through a virgin birth which there is no prophecy for. It hasn't shaken my faith that he is still the Messiah, it actually makes more sense AND is sensible.

  • @astroflyinsights
    @astroflyinsights17 күн бұрын

    Gott mit uns

  • @isaiah30v8
    @isaiah30v818 күн бұрын

    The entire event is a prophecy which goes beyond what was happening to Isaiah and his contemporaries: . Hebrews 2:13 And again: “I will have my trust in him.” And again: “Look! I and the young children, whom Jehovah gave me.” . . It is more complex than you present in the video above. . . Compare also: . Isaiah 8:14 -15 And he must become as a sacred place; but as a stone to strike against and as a rock over which to stumble to both the houses of Israel, as a trap and as a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem. 15 And many among them will be certain to stumble and to fall and be broken, and to be snared and caught. . Romans 9:33 as it is written: “Look! I am laying in Zion a stone of stumbling and a rock-mass of offense, but he that rests his faith on it will not come to disappointment.” . Isaiah 28:13 And to them the word of Jehovah will certainly become “command upon command, command upon command, measuring line upon measuring line, measuring line upon measuring line, here a little, there a little,” in order that they may go and certainly stumble backwards and actually be broken and ensnared and caught. . . Isaiah is similar to the Prophet Hosea's life being lived as a parable for the future. Both are quoted in the same context by the Apostle Paul. . . Romans 9:25 -27 It is as he says also in Ho·se´a: “Those not my people I will call ‘my people,’ and her who was not beloved ‘beloved’; 26 and in the place where it was said to them, ‘YOU are not my people,’ there they will be called ‘sons of the living God.’” 27 Moreover, Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: “Although the number of the sons of Israel may be as the sand of the sea, it is the remnant that will be saved. . The remnant: . Isaiah 7:22 butter and honey are what everyone left remaining in the midst of the land will eat. . .

  • @BobMarley-sr8re
    @BobMarley-sr8re18 күн бұрын

    Manichaean ending reminds me of nukes

  • @AwThanks-mv2ol
    @AwThanks-mv2ol2 күн бұрын

    Folks Emmanuel cannot be Isaiah 's son, because the verse in Isaiah 7:8 clearly states within 65 years thhe land of both Israel and Syria would be forsaken, Damascus has not yet ever been destroyed,but now it is at hand to happen. James Tabor does not understand the Time line. If y'all want to know,just ask me.

  • @BobMarley-sr8re
    @BobMarley-sr8re18 күн бұрын

    Nun's like mount Carmel Nun's from my home town got that power, priests bware 😆

  • @321ssteeeeeve
    @321ssteeeeeve18 күн бұрын

    King Hezekiah

  • @timfoster405
    @timfoster40518 күн бұрын

    and the "government shall rest on His shoulders"...(Isaiah 9) - this was never fulfilled in times past...Jesus is coming to rule the modern version of Ephraim...(USA) - a nation 'full of peoples' - Genesis 48:19

  • @byronumphress3805

    @byronumphress3805

    16 күн бұрын

    @405 JOHN 14:26 SHALOM

  • @amoswittenbergsmusings
    @amoswittenbergsmusings18 күн бұрын

    The Israel Symphny Orchestra performing in Herzliyya the corruption of the Hebrew scriptures and the idolatrous adoration of a man born from a woman as God Incarnate???? Which Jew would steep so low??? Only those who prefer the sweet tones of Handel's music over the blood of slaughtered Jews. Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.

  • @byronumphress3805
    @byronumphress380516 күн бұрын

    THE BETHLEHEM STAR , MATTHEW 2:9 , LO THE STAR•••TILL IT CAME AND STOOD OVER WHERE THE YOUNG CHILD WAS, 🛸OPHANIM,

  • @byronumphress3805

    @byronumphress3805

    16 күн бұрын

    THE OVER SHADOWING EFFECT;)

  • @shaunwisniewski1367
    @shaunwisniewski136716 күн бұрын

    You've been thrust into thick darkness. Time is a circle and history repeats itself. God is patient and wants us all to return home. God bless you sir. You're full of great knowledge. You just have to find the Spirit of it all. It's in you 🙏.

  • @paulakstamps7852
    @paulakstamps785218 күн бұрын

    "J"esus wasn't His name.

  • @renmuffett

    @renmuffett

    17 күн бұрын

    Correct. His Hebrew name is Yeshua.

  • @BobMarley-sr8re
    @BobMarley-sr8re18 күн бұрын

    Why are all these books hidden, zohar Jews talk about 1st Enoch when it was written in 13th century

  • @gideonopyotuadebo2304
    @gideonopyotuadebo230417 күн бұрын

    Immanuel is a name denoting the presence of God The scripture says a young woman (alma) not virgin (batulah) Many antillaw christian doctrines are founded upon errors and falsehood

  • @dynomiteslim4590

    @dynomiteslim4590

    13 күн бұрын

    I hear an argument claiming that the Septuagint uses a Greek word used exclusively for virgin and should be considered a more accurate translation from the original Hebrew. Is this true?

  • @alsam5783
    @alsam578316 күн бұрын

    Tabor is lost in translation..no light coming from (Mt.) tabor this time unfortunately

  • @PedroCavalcanti-nk9ik
    @PedroCavalcanti-nk9ik18 күн бұрын

    It is sad that mister Tabor disregards centuries of previous double interpretations of scriptures from judaic tradition for the sake of controversy and views. No christian will defend that Psalm 22 is not about David or Isaiah 53 is not about the remnant of Israel. The idea is that those prophecies can have a present and future meaning. Or even their reach overextends their present time. And tbh, the Hezekiah alternative interpretation makes much more sense than Tabor’s for Isaiah 7.

  • @hardwork8395

    @hardwork8395

    18 күн бұрын

    It is sad that religious people ignore the text and make up hypothetical meanings for texts to justify their dogma.

  • @user-jr7xk7ox4o

    @user-jr7xk7ox4o

    18 күн бұрын

    Yes much duality, dichotomy....I believe as a child as do many......

  • @ChristianCarrizales

    @ChristianCarrizales

    18 күн бұрын

    @@hardwork8395 agreed. As Tabor said at the beginning, I paraphrase, people use it and abuse it for their own purposes.

  • @JopJio

    @JopJio

    17 күн бұрын

    Yeah, you are misguided and indoctrinated😂

  • @nubtube7313
    @nubtube731313 күн бұрын

    This is like that.... While I don't doubt the claim that these passages have been misunderstood by some, I wonder if your explanation isn't being a little misleading itself? You are pointing to a single verse in Matthew, when in fact Christian belief regarding the virgin birth is derived at least in part from multiple verses in both Matthew and Luke. I understand the relevance of the link your making with Isaiah, but I think it would be a misunderstanding in and of itself to believe Christian faith on this aspect is based on Matthew 1:23 alone. Personally I don't give Matthew and Luke a lot of weight in terms of authenticity mostly because of the undeniable proof that they are not. It is one thing for two texts to claim a similar thing without contradicting each other, but it is quite another when the thing being claimed creates conflict. In the first instance, like the all important one donkey vs two, both accounts can exist in truth. In the second instance, like Jesus' arrival in Jerusalem and the week that followed, only one account can be true. Take Mark 13 vs Matthew 24 as the perfect example. I won’t bore you and your audience with a point-by-point commentary as I am sure you would appreciate, but the numerous corruptions in Matthew 24 are so blatantly obvious it is almost painful to read. Matthew’s 24:14 cuts to the chase quite succinctly though with, “And this Gospel…”. Matthew is boasting that his is the Gospel, and I think it is only fair that we should ask ourselves, do we really believe that? The problem is, there are so many claims in Matthew that put it in direct conflict with the Gospel of Mark that I’m not sure where to begin. Maybe I can make my point by simply stating that we know how long it takes to travel from Jericho to Jerusalem with a planned stop at Bethphage/Bethany, and we know how many days are in a week, so it should be obvious which account is at least plausible, and which is not? That being said, it is hard to imagine that Jesus would place his family, especially his Mother, in harms way by circulating his birth story. Imagine if verse 53 in Mark 14 was titled “Mary before the Sanhedrin”! I realize you have made great effort to claim promiscuity and Roman fathers, I get the sensationalism, it sells books! But these missteps are way below your pay grade Jim, and I don’t for a second think you actually believe in them. Matthew and Luke read like commissioned works with their appended start and finish, complete with smoke and mirrors. The Gospel of Mark reads like an account from those that were with Jesus recorded shortly after the events happened. There is a good reason why the Gospel starts with John, and ends at the tomb.

  • @gkeith64
    @gkeith6416 күн бұрын

    0:15 Isaiah PROFANE 🔥 QODESH👇 Yashayahu = Salvation is YHWH 💜🔯 Trur names tell the true story

  • @jomerorobia4140
    @jomerorobia414017 күн бұрын

    Peace be with you. Peter said this and he is a Jew. 1 Peter 1:10 -12 10 Concerning this salvation, the prophets, who spoke of the grace that was to come to you, searched intently and with the greatest care, 11 trying to find out the time and circumstances to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing when he predicted the sufferings of the Messiah and the glories that would follow. 12 It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves but you, when they spoke of the things that have now been told you by those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. Even angels long to look into these things. And he said also in his 2nd letter. 2 Peter 1:20 -21 20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. 21 For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. He says as a Jew and he is witnessed. Like he said in his letter in 2 Peter 1:16 -19. That is why they offered their life as a sacrifice also. Now, you are reading like a Jews but you don't understand why it is written. In your own understanding you can't explain it, like Peter said. I think Peter is more knowledgeable than you, because he is a Jew, they also know their teaching as a Jews. Your work is also the work of the Jews who don't believe in the Son of God he sent. They also used the scripture to tell the people not to believe to the Son of God. But like John said in John 3:16 -21. That show his Love and also a condemnation. If a human wise, they know what they choose. That is simple. That is not a black mail. That is the truth. God want us to know the truth only. But the wise man knows what danger is.

  • @JopJio

    @JopJio

    17 күн бұрын

    Peter didn't write that letter😂

  • @jomerorobia4140

    @jomerorobia4140

    17 күн бұрын

    @@JopJio who wrote it then?

  • @jomerorobia4140

    @jomerorobia4140

    17 күн бұрын

    @@JopJio This is the part of the letter of Peter but you think that is not his letter. 1Pe 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, 1Pe 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied. Born Again to a Living Hope 1Pe 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, his second letter. 2Pe 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ: 2Pe 1:2 Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, Confirm Your Calling and Election 2Pe 1:3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: Do you think Roman Catholic wrote that?

  • @leom6343

    @leom6343

    15 күн бұрын

    ​@@jomerorobia4140 there many letters and books written in the name of the apostles. Peter was illliterate and couldn't habe written such a letter and especially not in Greek

  • @jomerorobia4140

    @jomerorobia4140

    15 күн бұрын

    @@leom6343 You said: "Peter was illliterate and couldn't habe written such a letter" I imagine what Peter react your judgement about his education. Because his fishermen? you read the letter in Acts? Act 2:14-41 that is the illiterate for your view? For the sake of your argument, let says, Peter is no read no write, because his illiterate like what you think. What is the purpose of their follower? I am sure in Act 2:41 ...and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. because the illiterate preach them. One of them know how to write and to read, not all apostles of Jesus is no read no write, like what you think. don't judge a person because he is only a fishermen. 2Pe 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 2Pe 1:17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. 2Pe 1:18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. Mat 17:1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, Mat 17:2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. Mat 17:3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. Mat 17:4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. Mat 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. Now, tell me if is not Peter who wrote that? if his not hand written it, I am sure Peter is the one who talk that. Don't deceive your self.

  • @Jaymastia
    @Jaymastia18 күн бұрын

    Lol. I dont understand this. amongst many of the biblical characters, Jesus Christ is the only one with multiple names. Isaiah practically have a passage with many names for Jesus. So if Jesus is not called Prince of Peace or Wonderful Counsellor or Immanuel or Prince of Peace, Lamb that was slain , root of Jesse... It matters not as this all foreshadowed what Christ came to Fulfil and did fulfil. And if anything Jesus meaning God saves encircles everything He did. Anything else seems extra to me but i guess it's expected.

  • @user-jr7xk7ox4o

    @user-jr7xk7ox4o

    18 күн бұрын

    Very astute of you to make this point.bravo!!!!!....

  • @amoswittenbergsmusings

    @amoswittenbergsmusings

    18 күн бұрын

    Clutching at straw. You cannot stomach that "Matthew" lied. You just want to continue your Jesulatry.

  • @tractordriver8950

    @tractordriver8950

    18 күн бұрын

    @@amoswittenbergsmusingswhat did Matthew lie about?

  • @Bhagwan.Harambe

    @Bhagwan.Harambe

    18 күн бұрын

    Did Jesus not say “I did not come to bring peace but a sword, to separate father from son” blah blah. “Unless you die and are born anew you are not worthy to follow me” have you killed your ego yet? If when you are baptized you die and Jesus begins to live in you, then why are you worshipping Jesus? You are worshipping yourself, it’s foolish.

  • @Jaymastia

    @Jaymastia

    18 күн бұрын

    @@Bhagwan.Harambe what does this mean bruh ? The first quote - Jesus demanded sacrifice born out of Love for those who will follow him. The second one - Killing ego isn't an easy thing , you could exercise it through humility but the harshest way is through passing through the wilderness of life, and this God will make work of and within you . The third one the Spirit of Christ lives in you , but he will do nothing except what he hears from Christ in Heaven which wouldn't be available to you unless you seek Christ. There's no self worshipping. The third one is embedded in the trinity and is available in the Bible

  • @HPLeft
    @HPLeft18 күн бұрын

    I too love Messiah but I can only shudder nowadays when I consider how its texts were pulled from various books of the Hebrew Bible and New Testament to give a completely erroneous impression of their original meaning. Still, good tunes!

  • @sos1691
    @sos169117 күн бұрын

    This is amazing information! Just to think, such a huge chunk of mankind has been captured by Christianity, one of the greatest deceptions ever foisted upon the world.

  • @michaelbernard7402
    @michaelbernard740218 күн бұрын

    Who is Immanuel it Hezekiah that is what Isaiah said to Ahaz Isaiah 8:8 King James Version 8 And he shall pass through Judah; he shall overflow and go over, he shall reach even to the neck; and the stretching out of his wings shall fill the breadth of thy land, O Immanuel. Isaiah 8:10 King James Version 10 Take counsel together, and it shall come to nought; speak the word, and it shall not stand: for God is with us.

  • @alsam5783
    @alsam578316 күн бұрын

    This is another case where "the letter kills, but the spirit gives life"..apostolic or rabbinic exegesis leaving the new covenant written on the heart and mind of the inward man, for a parcel of dirt. Where is the scribe of this age? Well they are all on KZread!..Behold I Am with you (Emmanuel) even until the end of the age is the Gospel of Matthew's conclusion. Don't let "Scholars" hang noodles on your ears..

  • @Joqub

    @Joqub

    16 күн бұрын

    The written letters are the only thing written. No room for Jesus in the text. It's a beautiful video and clearly walks through the exact meaning of the text. Why can't this be about Jesus? Because Isaiah says TWICE, that the armies will go away before the child is old enough to 1. eat... 2. cry mother father. It happens quick. Nothing, absolutely nothing is in the texts of Isaiah 7-8 to indicate 700 years later. Christians aren't brave enough to admit what this means. Matthew lied. He misused this text of Isaiah. People back then did not study Isaiah and neither do Christians today. Knowledge is covering the earth. People are learning what the Bible is all about.

  • @alsam5783

    @alsam5783

    16 күн бұрын

    @@Joqub blinded like saul of Taursus..the veil is taken off when you turn to the Lord, the Lord is Spirit not the dead letter.. the heart of this people is hardened.

  • @Joqub

    @Joqub

    16 күн бұрын

    @@alsam5783 so where the spirit show you Jesus in Isaiah 7-8?

  • @tractordriver8950
    @tractordriver895018 күн бұрын

    Tovia Singer and other Rabis have taught this before. It’s double prophecy.

  • @jamesmanolakis2420
    @jamesmanolakis242017 күн бұрын

    Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools Romans 1;22

  • @ambiguousfigz4247
    @ambiguousfigz424718 күн бұрын

    It's all DNA. Lineages.

  • @singingdonkey620
    @singingdonkey62018 күн бұрын

    you will like the letters Jesus gave me about everything they are long and about a thousand of them about every subject so whatever you want to know ask the heavenly mail delivererer

  • @theurbanthirdhomestead

    @theurbanthirdhomestead

    17 күн бұрын

    Is The Creator female?

  • @singingdonkey620

    @singingdonkey620

    17 күн бұрын

    @@theurbanthirdhomestead we are made in the image of God male and female so the Holy Spirit of wisdom is female. Jesus is a male

  • @jadam7429
    @jadam742917 күн бұрын

    Adam. You know, adAM. Once you figure that out, you will figure out who jAMes is (us).

  • @russelldavis3796
    @russelldavis379618 күн бұрын

    I'm not sure young woman means Isaiah's wife. The rest of the video seems accurate.

  • @SDsc0rch
    @SDsc0rch17 күн бұрын

    sometimes you can be right... but simultaneously so sooooo wrong

  • @JosephMeilak
    @JosephMeilak18 күн бұрын

    The true name is Y25+A1+H8+U21+S19+H8+U21A=104 Glory to his holy name King of kings now let me show by the the math ok its hidden in the numbers Chapter 7+1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14=112 thats verse 14 we leave the 1 we use the 4x112=448 now 2x448=896 /8+96=104 if i look at Hebrews 13 +1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13=104 The Lord is my Helper when he says I Am Alpha omega ok u open The first page of O15+N14+E5=34 A1+N14+D4=19 ok now when you Look at And going forward Whats it say Bacwards D4+N14+A1=19 who was the First man Created A1+D4+A1+M13=19 so I go One34+And19G7+E5+N14+E5S19+I9+S19=78 and 34+19+78=131 thats One And Genesis now we go last page Revelation 121+131=252 /2x52=104 and u know 53+1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12=131 Isaiah 53 and what people i was Born classed as Intellectual with A Disability since a child ive been Diagnosed as that underthe Department of education ok so I Am limited only those understand as My Father the Most high Elshaddai now when people say oh you gotta speak hebrew different languages ok Then Ile get use Right here Genesis11 verse1 and Verse 7 And go to Hebrews Strongs Type in Toungs see what that says cause i can read the numbers cause I Am born on 3+4+19+78=104 my Dna From Biological dad Joseph goes Directly to Nazareth Gallie Israel the druize Lavent and especially if open the scriptures Genesis78+Verse26=104

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