Magnus: “Dude. I just came here to tell you dad wanted us to be home by eight.”

@bbbbKeJodddd

Жыл бұрын

"And I shall be home by ten, brother. With guests. "

@obisvanainobis9950

Жыл бұрын

@@bbbbKeJodddd NOOO

@RandoGrunt

Жыл бұрын

I can already hear the TTS Magnus voice actor saying that, lol

@moodyowlproductions4287

Жыл бұрын

Lorgar"YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO"!!!!!

@FrostRare

Жыл бұрын

@@moodyowlproductions4287 I DONT CARE DADDY If you don’t know what I’m talking about, look up Vic Berger Trump Rally 😂

If only Lorgar had realized that he could change the warp by making people smile.

@DefaultDerrick

Жыл бұрын

I mean isn't this literally true? Any strong emotion. So happiness too.

@HellishSpoon

Жыл бұрын

yes, by smiling with sadistic intent

@lukepoplawski3230

Жыл бұрын

I always wondered that (just getting into 40k). Everything negative emotion manifests in the Warp, but is there a counterpart to the Warp that we’d know as “heaven?”

@Shotokan1001

Жыл бұрын

​@@lukepoplawski3230 No, negative emotions are to strong and too plentiful. Prior to the "birthing" of the chaos gods, the warp was a relatively calm place.

@unyieldingsarcasm2505

Жыл бұрын

@@Shotokan1001 And the real reason, the setting panders to edgelords who shit on anything not "grimdark enough". See the community crying over the tau so hard that GW had to retcon them into being all manipulated mind slaves cause EVERYTHING MUST BE DARK, NO NOT EDGE!!111! Good parts of the warp don't happen, because the customers don't want it to happen.

during the entire conversation Magnus was slowly backing away.

@Waywardpaladin

2 жыл бұрын

"Bro, I just came over to return that book I borrowed..."

@TheAsylumCat

2 жыл бұрын

I don't need both eyes to see where this is going.

@depressedgwyndolin

2 жыл бұрын

I was vary much scared during that rant I was just giving back a book WTF

@Waywardpaladin

2 жыл бұрын

@@depressedgwyndolin Don't worry, you did nothing wrong.

@depressedgwyndolin

2 жыл бұрын

@@Waywardpaladin thank you friend

Magnus: "Maybe the Council of Nikaea had a point"

@lordfrostwind3151

Ай бұрын

"OH no, this Exactly what I sound like when I get into it don't I? No wonder Leman is always looking at me like that."

The VA really sells Lorgar's half-fascination, half-terror as to what's coming.

@sg0310

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I loved most about ADB's word bearer's books. They aren't all raving lunatics, some of them know the pantheon for what they are but it's far too late for them to turn back. Little by little their humanity and compassion is chipped away leaving them the servants of malevolent gods believing that only worship of them will save humanity. They could have been of the Imperium's most zealous legions had the Emperor not shamed them and glassed their perfect city in from of them. Their purpose had been shattered right in front of them and in their desperation they turned to beings that seek to damn the Imperium they once fought so hard to protect.

@flyboy_nathan4112

2 жыл бұрын

All of the audiobooks keeble narrates fantastically, I can't think of a single character he doesn't nail perfectly

@sg0310

Жыл бұрын

@@flyboy_nathan4112 I've probably listened to more than 10 audiobooks with keeble narrating them and let me tell you it never gets old, dude has the perfect voice.

@alpine7313

Жыл бұрын

@@sg0310 ADB and J Keeble are my go to combo. Every book with those two names is a guaranteed banger.

@dragonqueen556

Жыл бұрын

Just imagine his duels the zealous and rage of a Madman what's the breaking voice of a betrayed child

Lorgar greatest gift his is passion, its stronger than Angrons rage or Fulgrims confidence, it literally set mankind aflame

@chiefkeef74

2 жыл бұрын

So in short: everything is Lorgar's fault.

@gargoyles9999

2 жыл бұрын

@@chiefkeef74 it was all Magnus fault.

@depressedgwyndolin

2 жыл бұрын

@@gargoyles9999 bruh

@erwannthietart3602

2 жыл бұрын

Wow calm down there, Angrons rage while not putting mankind aflame certainly put his legion in blood and fire, and Fulgrims sheer ego allowed him to take a point blank virus bomb and the worst damage he got was being crippled because his Ego was hurt, not even his "soul", but his mere ego. He probably has enough for all of humanity. And in truth Magnus fans are more passionate about stating Magnus the arrogant naive idiot didnt do the big load of stuff that he did do wrong. The path to hell is filled with good intention yknow, he wanted good, he done bad, he assumes his mistake and let the big hypocrite wolf shank him and thats all he deserves

@GeoffreyBronson

2 жыл бұрын

@@chiefkeef74 it was literally the Emperor's fault.

My experience with the lore channels is Lorgar getting insulted, dunked on, ignored, belittled... then Jonathan Keeble speaks Dembski-Bowden's words, visualized by you.... oh shit. This guy is dangerous.

@infidelheretic923

10 ай бұрын

A Primarch with a wounded ego is a very dangerous being.

@kazmark_gl8652

5 ай бұрын

Kharns worst betrayal was not doing the galaxy a favor and just fucking killing Lorgar.

@jackrusso4700

5 ай бұрын

Yeah everyone made Lorgar seem like a dumbass but he’s a compelling and intimidating character when you actually look at lore

@aazz9676

5 ай бұрын

No he is still a dumb ass thinking he can alter and control the warp.

@Bread-nx9fo

5 ай бұрын

@@jackrusso4700Feel like a lot of writers ruined his character by making him a punching bag

This is what I love about the Word Bearers. They don't inflict torment just to get a sadistic kick out of it, though I'm sure they get that too. There's an actual purpose behind it. And that makes it so much more horrific. There's something almost paradoxically scientific in how inflicting pain causes a reaction in the Warp which can then be coaxed into achieving a desired result in the material realm. There are rituals, true names, amulets and tomes of forbidden knowledge. It's primitive superstition made reality. Which is so much more fascinating than the sterile Imperial dogma of "Psykers act as conduits to channel the energies of the Warp".

@MrFredstt

2 жыл бұрын

I would argue that aside from probably the Emperor Lorgar understands the warp far more than any other human

@bluewingedknight7762

Жыл бұрын

@@MrFredstt I would go further and say that Lorgar understands the Warp better than the Emperor, not because he is more capable but because he is capable of embracing it. The Emperor is the anathema to the Chaos Gods, the human embodiment of Order, he is humanity’s God but he isn’t really human per se. Lorgar meanwhile is one of the most human things to ever live, a Demi-God, he scratches the surface of divinity but he doesn’t quite reach it, that space in between being human and being divine is filled by Chaos, and Lorgar’s was like an abyss.

@gideonmele1556

Жыл бұрын

@@bluewingedknight7762 there are theories (which I quite like) that when Emps went into the warp for… who knows in order to finish the orinarch project he enticed some minor warp gods or powerful chaos beings unaligned with the Big Four and shoved them into the primarch bodies (hence where some of the non-psyker primarch powers come from that aren’t reflections of the Emperor). We see that with Corvus and Sanguinius having two warring angels within him. If so, Lorgar of all people would be the one to figure out and understand having a minor god instead of a soul as well as how to exploit that

@dovakiin296

Жыл бұрын

That depens on whose psykers you're talking about. The Grey Knights probably have a more colorful definition of what they do, as do probably the rune priests of the space Wolves and other groups. I personally like the Black Templars view on psykers and the warp....

@paulbarton4395

Жыл бұрын

The best of the Traitor Legions, and Lorgar was the best of the Traitor Primarchs.

That was fantastic. Lorgar sounds spot on. Soft voice, but still powerful. I always like it when I hear something from the Primarchs, and the voice sounds just right. I always believed Lorgar had a soft, pleasant voice, one you wanted to listen to, like a pastor's or a diplomat's.

@SonsOfLorgar

2 жыл бұрын

And just balancing on the edge between genious and cackling madness

@walnutking92

2 жыл бұрын

Everything Jonathon Keeble narrates is fantastic. Would highly recommend you check out literally any of the audiobooks he's narrated :)

@doomguy9049

2 жыл бұрын

@@walnutking92 yeah Keeble and Toby Longwortth are GOATs, two of my absolute favorite narrators/voice actors.

@mitchellnaujokaitis1021

2 жыл бұрын

I really like the soft voice. He's a preacher and the softness of his voice almost draws you in, you hang onto his world because you WANT to hear what he has to say next.

@cody1570

2 жыл бұрын

Easily capable of swaying people with a strong since of belief the power of words was once said to be a witches and warlocks strongest power, and when written down held power. Thats why it is called "spell'ing"

I love how absolutely insane he is but also terrifyingly coherent.

That...was an *astonishingly* good voice and read for Lorgar. Holy hell.

@JonAtomic

Жыл бұрын

Jonathan Keeble is amazing

Man, when Lorgar fell, he fell with every last fibre of his being, channelling his every last shred of self over to the worship and service of the Ruinous Powers, as only he could. It was his realisation of purpose that he embraced as completely as he once embraced service to the God-Emperor... ironically proving his nihilistic brother Curze correct; "Death is nothing compared to vindication"

@MrFredstt

2 жыл бұрын

Also incredibly ironic that now the Emperor is indeed a God, completely validating everything Lorgar once believed

@kasadeya3754

Жыл бұрын

Burning his world, killing his wife and his legions wives, and forcing him and his legion to kneel in the dust of their loved ones ashes..to aknowledge that they did wrong, in calling him a god. Hmm..might break a person

@AximandTheCursed

Жыл бұрын

@@kasadeya3754 Considering the first option was to erase the guy and his top people from existence and memory... possibly folding yet another Legion into the ranks of the Ultramarines... there really were no soft options, but even Big E did not reckon with the evil that festered in the hearts of Erebus and Kor Phaeron.

@sawspitfire422

Жыл бұрын

@@AximandTheCursed Bro that option you just presented (punishing the perpetrators and nobody else) is a million times more preferable to the wanton massacre the Big E actually committed. I'd say that's a pretty soft option in comparison, even if it is execution it's still a heck of a lot less of it

@AximandTheCursed

Жыл бұрын

@@sawspitfire422 Yes, but Big E was persuaded that Lorgar and his sons could be redeemed... in hindsight, it was the wrong option, but Lorgar's own brothers argued on his behalf, one of the few times when both Leman Russ and Magnus the Red agreed on anything... Many things about it could have been handled better, from the Ultramarines not forcibly evacuating the Monarchian cities, to the Emperor himself choosing a less drastic demonstration instead, or recognising the issues from the start, before the Word Bearers even joined the Great Crusade... But it all happened the way it did, almost like the Ruinous Powers arranged it to be so...

Whoever voiced this just brought it to life. The silent passion in every word is so entoxicating.

@paralyzedtortoise8446

Жыл бұрын

Jonathan Keeble, he’s great.

@legioinvigilata

10 ай бұрын

He truly is the first heretic.

@paganstomper

10 ай бұрын

@@paralyzedtortoise8446 The best. By far. Just my opinion.

@ricardoofthorolund4680

4 ай бұрын

​@@paralyzedtortoise8446He also voiced Maliketh the Black Blade in Elden Ring. Truly a great voice actor

I love the part when he says "Tell me you feel it"- the tone Keeble puts on the line, something between begging and demanding, really makes it feel like Lorgar is almost seeking validation in his beliefs from Magnus.

@42ndguardian

3 ай бұрын

'Seeking validation and freedom from responsibility of his actions' is the phrase that best sums up Lorgar Aurelian. He'll believe in any higher power so long as he doesn't have to be the one ultimately responsible for his actions

@42ndguardian

3 ай бұрын

'Seeking validation and freedom from responsibility of his actions' is the phrase that best sums up Lorgar Aurelian. He'll believe in any higher power so long as he doesn't have to be the one ultimately responsible for his actions

@CollinBuckman

3 ай бұрын

@@42ndguardian a bit like Konrad, who was obsessed with the idea that the future was fixed and impossible to change so he never had to take responsibility for his atrocities

that voice crack when he says million million gives me shivers and adds weight to the magnitude of the sheer numbers of deamons

@michaelcoward1902

2 жыл бұрын

Johnathan Keeble is hands down the best audiobook narrator. I'll listen to literally any book he reads and enjoy it. He does a lot of the 40k audiobooks and he brings that artistry to all of them...My favourite are the black Legion series.

Lorgar is often be dunked-on for not being the best fighter, or being a runt of the litter. But he's probably among the most fucking dangerous of the primarchs.

@Macharius89

2 жыл бұрын

if he did´nt land on Colchis and stay by the side of the Emperor on Terra he could be not the profet of Chaos, but the supreme builder of the Imperial Truth. Not the best warrior, not the most stronger, cunning or the most powerfull psicker... but words alone can change the universe, and damn, he knows how to use them

@AdvocatusDiaboliFin

2 жыл бұрын

Lorgar: *gives Alpharius two copies of Book of Lorgar* Alpharius/Omegon: *nervous chuckle*

@afqwa423

2 жыл бұрын

Meh. Lots of Primarchs weren't good fighters or had other passions besides war. Perturabo wanted to be more of an engineer and architect than a general. Guilliman explicitly planned for his Legion to retire to civil service. And it can be argued that Guilliman wasn't a good melee fighter either, but he's arguably the most influential in the modern Imperium, just because he was _really really_ good at logistics and governing. His sons have the advantage of having the least dramatic and ordinary "childhood" that any son could ask for. In a way, it's proper that Guilliman was Lorgar's archrival, they're both men of words, it's just that Guilliman was far more concerned with the material universe and more practical forms of scholarship. And of the two, I'd argue Guilliman left the more worthwhile legacy. That's kind of the point. The Primarchs are just more than operators or soldiers. They're leaders of men and brilliantly creative. The best melee fighter of the bunch got a lobotomy that made the other Primarchs look upon him with a mixture of pity and contempt. Angron's greatest gift was never his ability to fight, since his novel implies he had empathic powers and the ability to take away other people's pain. That was robbed from him. In an alternate timeline Angron would've probably be as well-loved as Vulkan or Sanguinius.

@johnisaacfelipe6357

2 жыл бұрын

​@@afqwa423 But Lorgar is unique in that it was never in him to be a general, all of the other primarchs found it easy and n0atural to conduct warfare, establish themselves as martial experts or psychic demigods, and found it natural to be in a state of war but for Lorgar, he never had that natural ability for war, he never had that natural thirsts for warfare, he was never comfortable as head of a legion butchering their way through the stars. He never had that killer instinct that is so pronounced in other primarchs and he is aware of this. He was ever a creature of peace and diplomacy.

@sawjhtheian6651

2 жыл бұрын

Lorgar, the Primarch that I hate the most. However, his mind and how he thinks is amazingly written. Truly one of the best unredeemable villains of fiction.

This was all really well done and the art and music was beautiful my dude. I honestly really love how in bliss Lorgar looks and sounds as he's describing what he's doing. Which is essentially "Look Magnus, look at all of this genocide and wanton slaughter, Angron and our legions are committing and going to commit! Isn't it wonderful?" It really shows just how much Lorgar fell, a man who used to care for mankind and want to raise everyone up to believe that his father was a God and that they could all be like him to a mass murderer braying at his restraints and sanity letting his sons, his own sons become hosts to nightmares and unleashing them upon helpless people. Top notch work my dude

@johnisaacfelipe6357

2 жыл бұрын

This is the reason why I love lorgar, so much potential for good, such a great force for evil

@evropaawake4421

2 жыл бұрын

That's the problem. The emperor for all his power and knowledge, failed to understand the power of worship. To worship the Emperor is to directly deny chaos. Instead he humiliated a loyal son and expected him to just say "oh well" They had no private deep father to son conversation where they go back and forth with their ideas. Instead lorgar was ordered to stop, he disagreed and got humiliated. Lorgar was really not the bad guy in this story.

@shmee123ful

2 жыл бұрын

thing is, i believe and im not alone in this. Lorgar never cared for humanity, he was never a good man. there was never anything noble or good in him. he is more than any other character or being in the enitrey of warhammer 40k time line the most evil creature the whole universe ever conserved.

@evropaawake4421

2 жыл бұрын

@@shmee123ful That's not really true. Lion cares less for humanity than Lorgar, if you read the description of planets Lorgar conquered, they were pretty much perfect. The only primarchs who genuinely cared about humanity were Lorgar, Sanguinius, Guilliman and Vulcan

@morganculbertson2373

2 жыл бұрын

@@shmee123ful I wouldn't say he didn't care. I'd say he cared more about the need of faith and something to believe in than he cared about people. Like he'd care for you so long as you believed in his faith. Because yea he'd set up like "perfect worlds" but what about those people that just wouldn't convert? That just either was militantly atheist or who wouldn't give up their old gods. Like yea all the legions killed religious zealots but for me I believe lorgar enjoyed killing them because "slay the heretic." Plus look at the lengths he'd go to just to justify his faith in his father. Big E spelled it out quite clearly with I AM NOT A GOD! and Lorgar would just take that and say only the truly divine would deny their divinity, he's just being modest and humble. He was gonna hold on to that faith until the bitter end. And he did, that's why such a drastic measure was taken with monarchia.

You know the villain is scary when their monologue sounds like a MeatCanyon video.

LORGAR: Monologues Magnus: "Brother, did you forget to take your medication again?"

The best "Moustache Twirling" moment in all of 40k for sure. Keeble captures Lorgar so perfectly, on the verge of religious hysteria, borderline (?) madness. I do think this video misses out on the best part of that scene though, just a few moments later. "That, is the Blessed Lady." "You built two..." "Oh no. I built three."

Magnus: “Lorgar, what the fuck are you talking about?”

I might not be the biggest fan of Lorgar but god damn this is a stunning piece of work! …Two months later and all of a sudden I have a growing Word Bearers army. I swear this video planted seeds of chaos.

@Ventruethful

2 жыл бұрын

The sweet voice of our Primarch, truly his greatest weapon. That and, of course, the Primordial Truth He bears

@Inshabael.

2 жыл бұрын

You are blessed, brother.

@rowdyzack5914

2 жыл бұрын

Not a fan of Lorgar? Eww. Calth was an act of self defense!

@mr.rousseau.4655

2 жыл бұрын

You at the top I am glad you have been enlightened.

@rowdyzack5914

2 жыл бұрын

You have been blessed, my son

Magnus is slowly eating ruffles chips in the background, trying not to chew too loudly.

The Word Bearer closed his eyes and lifted his hands - a conductor before an orchestra in those tense, edged moments before the first note is struck. ‘The warp is a song, brother. Let me play a verse for you.’

Genuinely, this is the first time I've heard something read from Warhammer literature that makes the corruption of the warp seem actually intoxicating. The voice sounds to tender and sincere that it makes the Daemonic incursion seem good.

"..... Bruh" Said Magnus in confusion.

@MagnusArchitectOfFate

Ай бұрын

Can confirm… that was quite a waste of time

You know i get chills when he says "Call it...the warp"

One of the favorite primarch, this music that you picked and narrator. It so beautiful, that gives me goosebumps. So good!

@dgoodfellow234

2 жыл бұрын

This whole Audiobook is gold

@chiefmasterofdeepwarrens3208

2 жыл бұрын

This is a lie, no one likes Lorgar!

@hellatze

2 жыл бұрын

if gw see this. the video will be removed

@rodaaan3640

2 жыл бұрын

@@chiefmasterofdeepwarrens3208 you are lying

@flaviomonteiro1414

2 жыл бұрын

The Unrisen deserve more love... Also I blame Erebus, not Lorgar...

Even as someone who constantly makes a mockery of Lorgar and his sons, I've got to admit this is some of the best artwork combined with some of the best voiceover work I've seen.

@TheHandofDestiny

2 жыл бұрын

Ah so you constantly lie to yourself

@MagosDominusRevan

2 жыл бұрын

Best artwork ? Mate ...

@PainGumbo

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheHandofDestiny At least he is not a coward.

@bmorebread8993

2 жыл бұрын

@@PainGumbo yea like that time u kicked his ass and he teleported and hid like a true bitchass

@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheHandofDestiny your daddy hides from the raven because he know that as soon as he leaves his safe space his existence will be nevermore.

Just the sound of his voice makes me want to join Chaos

Magnus: I need a priest rn… Lorgar: I AM a priest!

i love the audiobook narrators so much. They really did picked the good voices.

@jcmchandsomeface2292

Жыл бұрын

Johnathan Keeble is a fantastic voice actor, every audiobook from the black library with him is always going to be fantastic,

Lorgar is a super underrated primarch like no he isn't a fighter but if your into chops he is extremely important maybe they should have made him a more powerful psyker

@FennEXE

2 жыл бұрын

Aside from Magnus Lorgar is arguably the strongest psyker among primarchs

@etiennevanier

2 жыл бұрын

He's the second most powerful psyker primarch. Though maybe post-Molech Horus is stronger.

@pollythepolarbear5178

2 жыл бұрын

@@etiennevanier more so the Conrad or sanguineous ?

@etiennevanier

2 жыл бұрын

@@pollythepolarbear5178More than Conrad certainly, Lorgar opens warp storms and summons demons. That has to be better than prescience. Sanguinius is closer, but apart from very direct powers, like blasting people with energy, and prescience, Bird-Boy does not do much psychically (that I've seen in Heresy novels).

@ironduke5058

2 жыл бұрын

@@FennEXE I'd say Mortartion tops him no? It goes more like Magnus, Mortartion, Lorgar, Sanguinius, Konrad, Corax

magnus; 2 weeks ago you didnt know about the warp and now youre a expert.

Absolutely beautifully done Johnathan Keeble! Lorgar is a perfect character for artists with real potential.

Gotta be honest, I always felt bad for Lorgar before his fall..and even after. Maybe, it's a because I am a spiritual person, but his story and downfall was always a tragic as Magnus. Plus, I think he was right about the Emperor. The Emperor is a god. Maybe not on the same level as the ruinous powers, but a god nonetheless. The Emperor claims not to be a god, that there was no such thing as the supernatural, or gods, etc. But all that? It was lie. The Emperor is a very powerful manifestation of the supernatural, from his physique, to his intellect, to his charisma. For crying out loud, he could change his shape and when he would reveal him form it was often a titan of a man in golden, gleaming, and ornate armor. There's also hints that he may have in fact influenced the religions of Earth before it was Terra. Perhaps he tried to unite the world under a religion and it didn't work so he tried to drastically over-correct. Heck, he is still trying to steer Humanity like a god, but even more directly. He wanted to be the example that all humans could strive and look too. Couple that with his reality-bending powers, he is a living god of humanity. But the Imperial Truth was always a blatant lie, because the Warp/The Realm Of Souls had already existed eons before him. His existence and powers came directly from it. There already existed another layer of reality full of both wonder and danger. Instead of properly trying to warn humanity about it, it's danger, and how it could harness, changed, and made into a better place...he tried to cover up it's existence entirely. Often violently. He thought he could starve out the Chaos Gods via denying and abolishing faith. This was incredibly foolish because it is not faith that powers the Chaos Gods, but the extreme (often negative emotions) that came with sapient existence. He could've used the faith and hope people had in him, and channeled it even further. Yes, there is always the dangers to fanatical faith and zealous dogmatism, no doubt. There are things to criticize about how and when religion and faith is rampantly abused. But to deny that the supernatural and gods exist when it's often demonstrably (atleast in 40k) very real? Did the Emperor think he could cover that up forever? Did he think he would one day reveal that the Imperial Truth was a farce and people would still have faith in him or his system? That many wouldn't feel betrayed by this? Lorgar saw what was blatantly obvious about the Emperor, he was/is a god. What humanity should aspire to be. He thought his father was the pinnacle of benevolence, wisdom, and brilliance. Something that was innate in all of mankind despite their follies and flaws. Instead he was spurned by the one he considered to be his creator and lord. Not only was he spurned, it was done so with needless cruelty and loss of innocents who did nothing wrong but worship the Emperor, love him, and find meaning in their lives thanks to him. It's no wonder Lorgar turned to Chaos. It doesn't excuse the Primarch's own atrocities, true. Yet it's completely understandable how and why he fell. It's tragic.

@joshuaashkar6644

2 жыл бұрын

Just call the Big E Xerxes, but don't call him a God. in all seriousness though I think his main thoughts behind there are no gods are as follows: a. if he can spread the imperial truth of science over gods then people would not feed the ruinous powers with their devotion, b. he didn't want to be worshipped as a god, for this reason, it would in turn feed his power and his ego and push him to become more like chaos which he didn't want. He wanted mankind united under a signal banner in the goal to make mankind thrive. He hated Xenos because the eldar could "see the future" and saw mankind feeding chaos, and wanted to wipe mankind out. the eldar looked down on everyone in the galaxy as well, as beneath them, in turn making them no better than chaos to the emperor, birthing slannesh probably didn't help either. He felt that ignorance could be used as a shield against chaos, but in turn, helped chaos subvert people to their cause.

@fernandorivera4719

Жыл бұрын

@@joshuaashkar6644 Which fittingly explains why the religion based around the Emperor in the far future preaches hatred, ignorance, and intolerance. Despite their ritual trappings and medieval trinkets, the Ecclesiarchy worships a 'deity' that was more akin to Stalin and Pol Pot than Jesus or Buddha. Of course their creed would be fire and brimstone, where the "unclean" are not suffered to live.

@k.h.g3695

Жыл бұрын

Given that he had adopted various identities over the eons, it is possible that the Emperor might have been Stalin, Pol Pot, Jesus, etc... He is essentially a far more powerful version of the immortal Vandal Savage of the DC Universe - a caveman whom through the millennia has adopted various personalities: a poet, an artist, a thief, a governor, a hunter, etc; but most importantly, a conqueror.

@infidelheretic923

Жыл бұрын

The emperor had a justifiable reason for denying the existence of the supernatural. Demons draw strength from mankind’s belief and fear of them. So by proclaiming none exist he was depriving them of one of their main power sources.

@wiilov

Жыл бұрын

​@Infidel Heretic Except Chaos is empowered and made volatile by repression. Big E just packed the cannon aiming at his imperium with more gun powder. Denying the Warp/Human Nature is NEVER the answer. Look to Corvus: he embraced and directed his Warpstuff and has ascended to Dæmonhood without losing himself to the "Ruinous" powers.

Keeble is a damn good narrator, but the music choice really kicks this up a notch. Beautiful. I don’t even care for Lorgar much, but this was mesmerizing.

Even though I have not listened to his book yet, I can imagine that Magnus is listening to his brother and is genuinely horrified at what his brother is becoming. Lorgar was one of the brothers that Magnus was fairly close with, so I can picture it in my mind that Magnus is listening to Lorgar speak and is questioning that madness and pain which has taken hold of his brother. How he has fallen so completely into the hands of the ruinous powers, there is nothing he can do, even if he tried. The man before him truly isn’t his brother anymore, but a zealot gone mad because of the rejection of his faith, faith to a being that he saw not only as his father, but as a true god.

@quangcaodo8864

2 жыл бұрын

You should. Betrayer is literally *the* best book in the entire series

@infidelheretic923

8 ай бұрын

If you’ve ever seen a family member get inducted in a cult you can probably relate. But maybe a little different because Magnus knew about Chaos and used it on a few occasions even before the Heresy.

Magnus: Bro, I just sat down! Who the fuck starts a conversation like that?

I love the smell of Ruinstorm in the morning.

Is it weird that out of all the Primarchs that Lorgar probably scares me the most? Most of the Primarch are scary simply because their massive guys in power armor who can turn me into a literal stain with barely a thought. Kurze is higher on the scary list than most because he'll make you suffer unimaginable pain via torture before you die. The Daemon Primarch's are *even higher* because they could grab your immortal soul and "play" with it. But Lorgar would probably send the entire galaxy into the warp, have Daemons eating the souls of literally *every* living being and as the everything becomes a swirling mass of pure chaotic madness he'd give a satisfied smile thinking he's done something good.

"Riggggghhhht... I gotta go make a quick call to Dad, one sec... ." - Magnus

1:05 little known fact when lorgar cry's its from his left eye, symbolically if you cry from your right eye its joy however if its from your left eye it means pain. (both=frustration)

@dannybutts6877

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't even notice the tear dang also is that an actual thing right eye Joy left eye pain?

@TheHandofDestiny

2 жыл бұрын

Little details matter

@Itsallover57

Жыл бұрын

@@dannybutts6877 im sure that's bull shit in reality but it could be a literary symbol. Anytime I shed a tear its from my right eye and I am not happy when I do, I assure you.

@chestnut4860

10 ай бұрын

That's not how eyes work.

As painfully as ADB can write loyalists good gods can he write chaos

@paulbarton4395

Жыл бұрын

First Heretic and Betrayer are the best but his Night Lords stuff is amazing also, Sevatar is one of the best-written characters in the Heresy

@SS_Psyops

Жыл бұрын

The ADB Chaos material is so good, I wish they’d focus on that over anything else. If more people heard it I believe the game itself would grow much faster than it has. I’ve always thought the Ultra Marines, Imperial Fists, even the Space Wolves were the most boring of all the material. Horus and his legion as well. I prefer characters who are in control and their chosen direction sets the pace and tone of the rest. You have a character as titular as Horus who was initially his fathers first son and showed all the childish jealousy when finding his brothers due to the focus they’d steal from him. So, as what amounts to a minor chaos god doggedly pursues recognition from the emperor like a lap dog… Up until he is warp juiced by a weak delusional legion like the Wordbearers and those idiotic pseudo-gods who with all that power can’t accomplish shit. Then you have his masterful decision (retcon I guess) to basically invite the emperor aboard for a chat as he’s about to win…. Meanwhile the “god emperor” can see the future so well yet the Haunter and the Angel both knew about the future outcomes but he didn’t. They claim the emperor only discovered his plan over a game of regicide but again other characters had known for a century plus what would unfold. What was his grand plan?! Being invited aboard by Horus lololol. This is sort of what I mean and don’t get me started on the plot armor of a select few or basically the entirety of anything with “wolf” in the name. They have an amazing universe with incredible potential but they waste it by focusing on the most boring aspects of it.

@someguy4405

Жыл бұрын

WHY DID THEY GIVE HIM MASTER OF MANKIND WHY

Man drops one of the hardest Horus Heresy videos and never posts again. What a legend.

@atnasingetnamn2887

6 ай бұрын

1 video and literally nothing else hahah

This is the truest understanding the the warp as I see it, it cannot be so controlled only directed like a Maestro

I'm one third into this book, and it's one of the best pieces of literature I've read. Honestly I didn't expect Warhammer 40k to have such an exquisitely descriptive narrative, and beautiful dialogues like these.

@patricion.3607

Жыл бұрын

Aaron Dembski-Bowden is a damn good author. His Night Lords novels are top notch.

@sexyatheist69

Жыл бұрын

@@patricion.3607 ADB is da G

He's .....gone mad. How he speaks, how he refers to all of it. He has gone mad.

Its moments like this that remind me why I love 40k so much

@milotura6828

2 жыл бұрын

yes

Me when I first heard this: Wow, that was very poetic, Lorgar... Poetic and fucking insane, you megalomaniac.

This is why Lorgar and Perty are my favorite traitors. Perty carried the traitors militarily. If he stayed during the seige of terra, the traitors would have won. Lorgar, however, planted the seeds of corruption from the beginning, turned Horus towards chaos, and indirectly created the imperial cult, leading to mankind’s technological stagnation. Out of all the traitors, Lorgar was the most dangerous.

@infidelheretic923

8 ай бұрын

Not with the Ultramarines on the way. Plus the Traitors backstabbing each other ensured their ultimate failure.

If we ever get Daemon Primarch Lorgar, I hope he's the best support piece in the game. Buffing his allies and debuffing his enemies is his superpower among the Primarchs.

Magnus: *Slowly steps away*

Emperor: "Yo, why do you have to talk like a Batman villain?" Lorgar: "Hath not the light deserved it's time it twain wi--"*Is interrupted by Monarchia getting glassed from orbit*

"Calth was an act of self defense." Chaos Worshipper

pure definition of the word "Charisma"

Keeble is such an amazing narrator, you can hear the reverence turn to madness in his voice

Magnus leaves the room and lorgar keeps going

Always liked his son Argel Tal more, but hot dang if Lorgar wasn't technically right...he just never thought to impact the warp in a different way. In the backwoods theology of 40k where the created create the Divine, he really could have focused in on that and turned the warp into a tool and mirrored deathworld to house the souls of living beings, rather than falling to temptations and peer pressure Faith is a necessary component of humanity. In the end everyone devotes themselves unto something finding their fulfillment in it. Those who don't see it are true slaves to it. Believe there is an old saying, "you can't truly subjugate the willing"

@MrFredstt

11 ай бұрын

To be fair, Lorgar tried that when he was worshipping the Emperor

Jonathan Keeble is a fucking legend, dude.

Jonathan Keeble is such a great voice actor, Hes the reason I love Jack of Blades from Fable so much.

@thomasboys7216

2 жыл бұрын

Oooooh, that was him? Neat!

Awesome work! You captured the best primarch perfectly. I’d love to see you do the part where Magnus says “you built two abyss ships?” And Lorgar replies “no, I built three”

@Inshabael.

2 жыл бұрын

That would be awesome

@TheHandofDestiny

2 жыл бұрын

That would be awesome

@alricmalicorne321

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say "best"... I mean, the only reason he's not the most hated man in the galaxy is that Erebus exists.

@TheHandofDestiny

2 жыл бұрын

@@alricmalicorne321 He is the best

@DeathSithe92

2 жыл бұрын

you mean the worst primarch.

Magnus: sorry I was thinking about destroying the space wolfs, were you talking about destroying the space wolfs?

@gargoyles9999

2 жыл бұрын

Lorgar: no I was just saying that Corvus is looking edgier than usual and seems to be skulking about. I’m sure it’s nothing

Lorgar needs more, I mean he's the weakest in combat yet he's the one who effectively created The Imperium at present that worships The Emperor as a god and is slowly technologically regressing. Out of anyone, he's done far more damage to the setting than any other character including Horus. Horus only fell because the Word Bearers made it so.

@DeathlyDisease

2 жыл бұрын

He arguably got the most that any Primarch has ever gotten. He won. He got the Imperium he wanted, just as he saw it.

@TheHandofDestiny

2 жыл бұрын

Weakest is not something to describe him anymore

@alshabib5849

2 жыл бұрын

Militarily, its arguably Pertarabo that was the MVP for Chaos during the Heresy. by the end he and the Iron Warriors were the only professional fighting force left.

@BBlueu2

2 жыл бұрын

He's not the weakest. Magnus and Lorgar are among the strongest, they both can augment their abilities beyond the others with their superior warp power, and that was before ascending to Daemonhood.

@mellr0

2 жыл бұрын

@@BBlueu2 Nearing the end of the heresy. He's essentially the poet scholar at the beginning. Pretty much every other primarch has beaten him during the heresy at some point, up until he discovers that Fulgrim is possessed, during which he demonstrates to all the other primarchs that hes so god damned powerful, he could beat any of them.

First piece of media to make me consider playing Chaos. Good fuckin' job.

@quangcaodo8864

2 жыл бұрын

That's the good ol' Lorgar charisma to ya

I had no idea Lorgar was the idea man behind the Fyre Festival.

I want an animated series of the chaos primarchs doing stuff together with this art style. I really like seeing lorgar's theology/philosophy

Now we need all epic speeches of others evil daddies And special “Let the Galaxy burn” moment

The Urizen recieves love! Praise Chaos, Let your soul be joyous for the Great Song.

@alpha-1redrighthand829

2 жыл бұрын

Fuck Chaos. Better to die than be a meat puppet by thirsting laughing gods who will throw you away in a second if you do a single thing wrong.

@Inshabael.

2 жыл бұрын

@@alpha-1redrighthand829 At least you got time to do something while it lasted, breathe wrong in front of the commisar and you might as well be sacrifice to chaos.

@TheHandofDestiny

2 жыл бұрын

@@alpha-1redrighthand829 So misguided

@ahmetsamet7428

Жыл бұрын

Bruh

‘There, a ship burns in Latona’s atmosphere, the cries of the doomed souls echoing into the empyrean. And there, a warship ploughs into the surface of Ulixis, digging its own grave, taking a hundred thousand souls shrieking into the afterlife. Do you hear them dying, Magnus? Do you hear the song shifting in time to their extinguished essences?

Keeble is so unbelievably good. Betrayer should have won awards for the performance.

I think Lorgar is the scariest Primarch because of his insane need for faith that he would serve objectively evil gods as long they were "gods" In his own mind faith cant be evil. Its like if you wanted to be an architect and your dad forced you to be a business man and then a satanist said hey Lorgar you can be my architect but the only mortar you can use is the blood of tortured children. To me Lorgar represents the danger of repression and someone coming along and offering you a taste of something you dont even understand like a child being introduced to videogames or candy. I think to Lorgar the idea of building a faith and serving higher powers is like a drug.

@giacomoromano8842

2 жыл бұрын

This is a good point of view, but i don't think that Lorgar just "need" a religion to be happy, and that he could discern between religions and see which one was right and wrong. On the world where he grew, he had visions of the emperor and understood for himself how the watered chaos worship of the planet was inflicting damage and suffering on the people, so he created a better, forgiving and embracing religion through his vision of the Emperor. What brought him towards the chaos gods was the terrifying realisation that his life, belief and all he cared more in the world was a delusion, a trauma caused by the emperor itself. At that point, he was just desperate and in need of something to cling on. So yes, when he became a chaos worshipper, he needed any religion that "existed" at all, but he wasn't always like this.

@johnisaacfelipe6357

2 жыл бұрын

@@giacomoromano8842 that was his flaw, he was a truthseeker born in a world wherein the truths behind the glaring mysteries of the universe were infinitely dark and dangerous

@Dakooties

2 жыл бұрын

Alpharius said in his primarch novel that he thought of all the Primarchs Lorgar would have benefited the most from spending time on Terra instead of him.

@stephenwood6663

2 жыл бұрын

The irony is that Lorgar was happy enough to commit genocide on the Emperor's orders, because he believed the Emperor to be a god. By going out of his way to declare this not to be the case, the Emperor didn't just put Lorgar in a place where he was looking for genuine divine inspiration, he also, in Lorgar's eyes, declared himself to have no just authority over him. The zealotry of the Word Bearers was a problem which needed to be handled, but the Emperor handled it in about the worst possible way he could have done, with neither nuance nor foresight.

@johnisaacfelipe6357

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephenwood6663 I do agree with you but a slight cavaet is that Lorgar was unique amongst the primarchs in that he didn't want to be a general prosecuting a war against other humans. He talked about this with Kor Phaeron where he shows that he detested warfare and bloodshed in equal measure and lamented how the universe had no place for a good philosopher or scholar. He hated bloodshed and cruelty and he had managed to convert one of the most heartless legions (imperial heralds) into one that favors diplomacy, kindness, and peace. (imagine an entire legion of lamenters) Then the censure happened, and Lorgar revived the bloody fatalistic nature of his legion and millions suffered.

Simply a beautiful performance of Lorgar's and excellent art to match.

And that’s when Magnus realized he made a big mistake

@devontheundivided9815

2 жыл бұрын

it was either die at the hands of the emperor or live under lorgar's gods.

Lorgar. My hero.

@Commissar_Eiven

2 жыл бұрын

But remember he's also a logar hahahahhah

Lovely work from the narrator. And I like how my eyes come across.

I honestly hope you do more of these, the art just makes the dialogue so much better

Magnus "Sorry I was miles away, what were you saying?"

When the need for a higher purpose takes a dark turn....

This was really good. You did a great job matching Lorgar’s emotions through the animation with The voice actor’s tone

Fantastic art! So underrated, the world needs to see this!

Lorgar is the guy who saw the code within the Matrix.

"Go away, Lorgar."

Magnus, to whoever hasn't run away yet: "Yeah, he's fuckin' crazy."

"So Logar would you like a big mac or happy meal?"

I’ve watched this a many times and the background music is blissful

I understand everything he talked about. I guess I serve Chaos now

1:06 a single tear.

Masterpiece!

At the end Magnus said 'im sorry brother I was miles away were you saying something'

as much as erebus and corferon (definetly spelled that name wrong) were already corrupted/evil, if the Emperor wasnt such an idiot Lorgar would have been the most loyal of his followers, fanatic yes but he would have definetly have his uses. But alas, critical thinking and reasoning isnt a part of the 40k Universe and thats why we love it so much.

@SonsOfLorgar

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed.

@BlackPsionic

2 жыл бұрын

Kor'Phaeron is the name, IIRC. I remember it having an apostrophe in the middle of it somewhere.

@alfatazer_8991

2 жыл бұрын

Abandon reason! Know only war!

@Washeek

2 жыл бұрын

The mon-keigh corpse seer says that he has a plan for everything. Remember the demon spawned vision suffered by Horus? It was the truth. He is not magnanimous as a ruler. The Corpse Emperor is a tyrant and his ascension only proves his malignancy. But He certainly was not an idiot. All part of the plan. And Lorgar chose the wrong Gods to serve. You may say: "But how can this be? The Emperor has refused him! The Lecticio Divinatus was forbidden." All. Part. Of. The. Plan.

@TheHandofDestiny

2 жыл бұрын

Kor Phaeron

Idc who you are. Lorgar scares me the most of all the primarchs. He still runs around and skims the surface of chaos and reality

@gargoyles9999

2 жыл бұрын

When he isn’t hiding from Corax

@OEFarredondo

2 жыл бұрын

@@gargoyles9999 longest game of hide and seek

@Inshabael.

2 жыл бұрын

@@gargoyles9999 He is not lmaooo

Honestly the word bearer / lorgar focused books are probably the best in the horus heresy series. The first heretic was amazing and Betrayer was great!

@paulbarton4395

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

Magnus slowly backing up to the nearest door: Aight Imma head out.

Magnus: dude I was just asking you if you wanted mustard or ketchup in your burger

My goodness this mans voice *embodied* Lorgar.

Gamesworkshop could actually make a fucking incredible Horus Heresy series with like 200 episodes if they just got their fucking heads out of their asses. 40k and 30k have endless potential to be incredible across all media yet due to the incompetent higher ups we are left to do it ourselves.

@foulmoodcentral2830

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, if we'd been left in peace and not hit with the copyright-nuke from hell we'd have a growing, blooming IP that many would have flocked to, for better or worse, additionally. we live in the era where Star Wars died from whoring-itself out to the point of no return, and games workshop was all to eager to step into limelight and take its spot....i doubt it would have gone well.

@invntiv

Жыл бұрын

It boggles my mind how terribly mismanaged their IP has been. I agree, the potential is beyond staggering. Just look at how AWFUL they've done licensing their content for game development. Out of the hundreds of GW based games, theres like 4 or 5 games that are actually worth playing or paying for. They need to join the 21st century and get their heads of of their asses, as you say. I think a large part of it has to do with them being based in the UK. If they had developed some stronger relationships with more high-talent US-based media companies, perhaps they would be able to put out some licensed content that's worth a damn. As for now, I stick to the Audiobooks and the tabletop itself. It's quite telling when fan-based or community-driven content does a better job at capturing the essence of the lore than their own stuff

Magnus: *offers a Snickers bar*

Magnus was traumatised at that point.

This video has made me finally have an ounce of respect for Lorgar