Every time you mention that you lingered too much on a tangent, all I think is, “My friend. You apologize to no one.”

@DorkLords

2 ай бұрын

Love it! 🙂 Made me laugh.

@AnAn-yn7yd

2 ай бұрын

​@@DorkLordsHe speaks the truth.

Thank you tons for covering one of my suggested topics! Its fulfilling that you covered Angbor's epithet, lineage, history, character traits AND loyalties! Amazing work as always! I would love to see more fief-related topics, whether that be the other lords or their provinces! I didn't realize that many other historical and powerful middle-earth figures, human or elven, were deemed fearless, but it makes sense why. For Angbor that's high praise as a "lowly" fiefdom lord, especially coming from the to-be Gondorian king himself! It's really interesting to see how the culture of Lamedon is much like that of Dunland, a region of rugged foothills or valleys, inhabited by grim folk or horsemen, not Dunedain as in more "noble" regions of Gondor. Both people share distant kinship, but their loyalties couldn't be further from each other, one honored their oaths to the Dunedain and fought off the forces of evil, and the other fell victim to deception, trickery and promises of power from a Dark Lord, much like their relatives who became the Army of the Dead. The history, culture and complex allegiances of the Haladin and their vast Pre-Numenorean lineage between the Misty and White Mountains is often overlooked. I was looking into some etymologies and I found out that Lamedon is not a sindarin name, so it definitely came from a haladin-esque word. Angbor on the other hand is sindarin, meaning "IRON FIST", fitting for a fearless lord of the grim hillmen, and I wonder how his battles went! Calembel, also called Greenham, the only named town in the region is also sindarin, meaning "Green Fenced Field", so it was probably surrounded by an encircling fence on top of a small hill by the Ciril river. This may be a nod to the fenced settlements of their ancient Haladin kin in Brethil, such as Ephel Brandir located on the hill of Amon Obel. Its cool to see some sindarin influences in Lamedon from the Dunedain, yet the fief is still very much pre-numenorean in its roots.

@DorkLords

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the Angbor suggestion, Cybromancer! Great point about the region's mix of pre and post numenorian etymologies. Erech is also a pre-numenorian name. And I like your description of the fortified town of Calembel. Bree (also settled by House of Haleth descendants) has a similar fortification, though it uses a defensive ditch and hedge set-up.

I totally forgot about angbor what a legendary character. Great video as usual my friend!

@DorkLords

2 ай бұрын

Many thanks, Julian!

Hail my lord! Great video as always. Thank you for all your efforts!

@DorkLords

2 ай бұрын

Hail to thee, Gorlim, and mine thanks! Telling thine tale was one of my favorite videos.

Great info & reading!! I totally forgot about Angbor. JRRT came up with so many awesome characters that only get a little attention..

@DorkLords

2 ай бұрын

So true! It's such a strength of Tolkien's writing. He gives glimpses of characters and events that exist right on the edges of the story - as though he could tell an amazing tale about Angbor the Fearless, but he's focusing on the War of the Ring.

Matt the Fearless. Tackling Tolkien obscurities with mad courage. Equipped with a crazed bulletin board connected by pins and red yarn! Kudos my friend! So very well done! Why do something in a few pithy lines when you can make arguments spanning ages!

@DorkLords

2 ай бұрын

Many thanks, Thomas! I did feel like i needed a yarn board for this one. 🙂

You are a great orator! ❤❤

@DorkLords

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words, Baron!

I love the presentations like this that you do... so well thought out and organized... and then passionately conveyed and then backed up with examples taken from the various texts. You know... I consider myself a BIG fan of JRRT. I've read the main publications many times over, but there are still a few published works I have yet to procure - The Peoples of Middle Earth... and Morgoth's Ring are not yet in my library. So - I'm a fan bordering on fanatical... but I had no memory and no clue as to who Angbor the Fearless was. I also did not realize that the Hill Men very likely descended from some of the same people/clans/tribes that made up the House of Haleth. THIS is what makes the works of JRRT so incredible and they bear witness to the genius of creative writers like JRRT - all of the hidden mysteries/stories/legends that can be pulled out of what IS available - just incredible. You are amazing for tracking a few of these down and sharing them with us. Thank you for that.

@DorkLords

2 ай бұрын

Many thanks, Tyler! You made my day - happy to oblige! I do enjoy researching Tolkien's literature because I know that he's done the work to carry thru his themes and story elements.

Only one hour ago did I go a-searching for some Dorkling content I may have missed...and lo, some appeared . Thank you.

@DorkLords

2 ай бұрын

Woohoo! Happy to oblige! 🙂

Thanks matt love your lord of the rings work....Matt from down under :)

@DorkLords

2 ай бұрын

Hail to thee, Matt from down under! Great to hear from you, and thanks for the kind words!

Hi Matt! I’ve been watching your videos a while and you’ve become my favorite LOTR channel (and I’m subscribed to all the big ones). I just love the personable and witty way you explain characters and tell stories. I wish you had more subs, and can’t understand why your superb content is so under appreciated. I often put a playlist of your videos on before I go to sleep. I especially love stories about the elves. I know you like obscure characters and my favorite elf is Haldir. If you could talk about him, I would greatly appreciate it ❤ I hope you get monetized soon 😊 PS- I have more requests forthwith 😆 Thank you in advance!

@DorkLords

2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for the kind words - you made my day! Haldir is certainly a worthy subject for a video - thanks for the suggestion! I'm adding to my video topic list.

@The_Beautiful_Ones

2 ай бұрын

@@DorkLords I can’t wait!!! 🫶

Fantastic video, Matt, thank you 😊 Despite the zillion names and events the Third Age has become my favourite age now. In defence of the Dunlendings it should be mentioned that they had reasons to fight against the Rohirrim. After Eorl and his people were granted Calenardhon by Cirion, they drove the Dunlendings from their lands into the mountains.

@DorkLords

Ай бұрын

Thanks so much, Anni! And true, the Rohirrim's gain was the Dunlendings' loss.

@DorkLords forgot to mention excellent video as always!

@DorkLords

2 ай бұрын

Many thanks, Travis!!

Thanks for another great video. I would love to see a video about the last alliance.

@DorkLords

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words and for the suggestion, Isac! I'm adding it to my topic list.

Great video Dork Lord! I vote Angbor a capital fellow! May the hair on his toes never fall out! xD

@DorkLords

Ай бұрын

Many thanks, Napdragon! And I second thine toast!

Mae govannen Mellon nin I love your content. I always learn something new when I tune in! Thank you for your due diligence

@DorkLords

Ай бұрын

Mae govannen, Mithrandir! Thanks so much for the kind words - I really appreciate it.

There are other Hill-Men in Middle-Earth. The Hill-Men of Rhudaur, who lived in Rhundur, a former petty realm of Arnor, where Hobbits first settled in Eriador. We don't know much about them, but Darth Gandalf has a good video. Check it out.

@DorkLords

2 ай бұрын

Well noted, Edward! As you say, there's a reference to the hillmen of Rhudaur in the Appendices: “The claim was resisted by Rhudaur. There the Dúnedain were few, and power had been seized by an evil lord of the Hillmen, who was in secret league with Angmar.”

The return of the king

@DorkLords

2 ай бұрын

😃

Took a huge break from KZread and twitter and everything. Loving catching up on the videos and great watch as always ❤

@DorkLords

7 күн бұрын

Great to hear from you, hazbojangles - welcome back!! Glad you enjoyed the Angbor vid.

@hazbojangles2681

7 күн бұрын

@@DorkLords I was away because I had been focusing on exams. Today I found out I have been accepted to the University of Edinburgh to study Ancient & Medieval History! Now o can finally relax and watch more KZread 😂

@DorkLords

6 күн бұрын

@@hazbojangles2681 Congratulations! What a fantastic venue to study medieval history - an impressive achievement, good sir!

@hazbojangles2681

6 күн бұрын

@@DorkLords thanks again :) now I just marathon all of your House of the Dragon videos too 😎

@DorkLords

6 күн бұрын

@@hazbojangles2681 🐉

Hell yeah a dorklords lotr upload!?!?! Thanks Matt! I find it so interesting the different paths that the houses of the Edain who stay in Middle Earth go down after the first age. The northmen, descendants of the house of Hador, have a great relationship with the exiles of Numenor and aren’t directly ruled by Sauron during the second age if I’m not mistaken. They become the Rohirrim and Men of Dale - valiant allies to the other free peoples of ME and readily join the fight against Sauron. Vs The remnants of the House of Haleth who suffer from Numenorian deforestation and later corruption and were ruled over by Sauron for a long time. Became the men of dunharrow, dunlandings, and the breelanders - for the most part they just wanted to be left alone and left to their own affairs. Two questions: 1) were there any peoples of Beor left in middle earth after the first age? If so, where/who were they? 2) Did Angbor roll up to Minas Tirith with a 30 rack of Busch for those left behind in the defense of the city.?

@DorkLords

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words, Eric! As for 1), i'm not aware of a middle-earth group of beor descendants after the 1st age, but Elros was of the line, and I wonder whether the Dunedain of the 3rd Age were mainly Beor descendants. As for 2), absolutely! 🙂 Angbor might have contemplated what would happen if Aragorn and his entire army were wiped out at the Black Gate, and Faramir succumbed to his wounds. Would Angbor become the defacto leader of Minas Tirith for a week before being crushed by Sauron's forces?

@Enerdhil

2 ай бұрын

Bëor was Beren's greatgrandfather.

@EricGasz69420

2 ай бұрын

@@DorkLords I guess most of the Dunedain are descended from the house of Beor, in the books the Grey Company and the line of stewards are described to have dark hair and grey eyes which are common traits among the people. It would make sense that a lot of faithful were in some part beorian cause they had the longest/ probably most positive relationship with the elves of ME. Hmm, I’d assume Imrahil’s oldest son Elphir would take over as the ruling steward but we’d definitely be in some hot water if everyone got clapped at the Black Gate and Faramir passed away. Might lead to another kin strife and make for an interesting what if video. Without the leadership of Aragorn and Eomer would the MOTW be able to subdue the Easterlings and Haradrim? Also Frodo and Sam would probably die on Mt. Doom, could Merry and Pippin free the shire from Saruman by themselves or would he end up ruling over Eriador and eventually attack Rohan and Gondor from behind?

@EricGasz69420

2 ай бұрын

@@Enerdhil yes sir he was! And without him and meeting with Finrod we wouldn’t get the Oath of Finrod, Beren would’ve passed in Tol in Gaurhoth, and eventually no Earendil and no war of wrath! Beor the Old - the first hero of the Edain!

@Enerdhil

2 ай бұрын

@@EricGasz69420 Amen! Preach it, Mellon!

Aredhel is Turgon's sister. Idriel Celebrindal is his daughter.

@DorkLords

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the correction, Enerdhil - absolutely right.

Who is the Deceiver? Please explain in detail?

@DorkLords

2 ай бұрын

Hail to thee, Travis! I'm assuming you're referring to Sauron - "The Deceiver" is one of his many nicknames. You might think he got it thru his dealings with Celebrimbor and the Rings, but in the Silmarillion, he's actually given the nickname by Elendil's father, Amandil, to describe the way Sauron has deceived the Numenoreans. Amandil has this quote before attempting to sail West: “If I thought that Manwë needed such a messenger,’ said Amandil, ‘I would betray the King. For there is but one loyalty from which no man can be absolved in heart for any cause. But it is for mercy upon Men and their deliverance from Sauron the Deceiver that I would plead, since some at least have remained faithful.”

great job. I'm perplexed though. How do the Dunedain pull off the cursing an entire nation of men into death yet linger forever in Middle Earth. Tolkien is so loose with his rules. For example, men that don't accept their limited life span are doomed to grow better. Then you get these men cursed to stay dead and linger until called upon. By what magic are we to understand how this is possible? It isn't the rings or the ring, and there is no mention of a curse and charm school in the books I've read. So what's up? How many different dead are there? There are wraiths, dead men, dead spirits in the dead marshes. In fact how many deads are there?

@DorkLords

2 ай бұрын

Great questions, Charles! And I'm not sure I have the answers. I think you've noted most of the types of deads 🙂. Gorlim is in an interesting case - back in the 1st Age, after being captured by Sauron, he revealed the hidden location of his outlaw compatriots - Sauron then killed him. But his wraith appeared in Beren's dreams to warn him. It suggests that, like the men of Dunharrow, when Gorlim broke his (implied) oath to keep his compatriots' whereabouts secret, his soul was doomed to remain in middle-earth when he died. As you say, wraiths have a variety of forms and causes, but breaking an oath seems to be a good way to keep your spirit tethered to the earth.

@Enerdhil

2 ай бұрын

That is at least five videos worth of questions.😂

@Enerdhil

2 ай бұрын

Actually, I am sure that Isildur, bearing the One Ring used the power from that Ring to put a curse on the Oathbreakers. Similarly, Frodo the Ring bearer puts a curse on Gollum, who then falls into the fiery chasm, destroying the Ring. I am pretty sure those two guys could not put a curse on anyone and have it activated without the help of the One Ring.

@DorkLords

2 ай бұрын

@@Enerdhil I like your take on the Ring, Enerdhil! It's interesting, because I interpreted Isildur's curse as being delivered when Dunharrow refused him, as opposed to after the battle (when he had the Ring) - but it would perhaps make better sense in the narrative if it occurred the way you suggest. Here's the quote: “But when Sauron returned and grew in might again, Isildur summoned the Men of the Mountains to fulfil their oath, and they would not: for they had worshipped Sauron in the Dark Years. ‘Then Isildur said to their king: “Thou shalt be the last king. And if the West prove mightier than thy Black Master, this curse I lay upon thee and thy folk..."

@charlesspurlock119

2 ай бұрын

@@Enerdhil I like it. It makes a lot of sense and it has internal story consistency. Well done. Too bad the Dork Lord has gotten a little soft on the couch instead of tackling these tough questions.