You can download all the record-breaking 10x10 coaster designs here: drive.google.com/file/d/1s2WezccXDyyyvlY4ZuFwNmDRU-ko0t6_/view?usp=sharing

@jjproductions4768

2 жыл бұрын

Have you considered building underground?

@Nico_Nico_Oh_No

2 жыл бұрын

@@jjproductions4768 1:00 that'd break the rules.

@KingSlimjeezy

2 жыл бұрын

Hey marcel I watch every video you make just wanted to say I appreciate it and find them super cozy for some reason. Its like RCT2 trivia asmir

@theplasmawolf

2 жыл бұрын

Got a longer one xD It's only a small modification, basically trying to perfect your design's length, from 17.236 meters to 17.291 meters.

@mattcroy1885

2 жыл бұрын

Marcel rules! I love rct2

I love how the coasters went from visually appealing tangles to blocky skyscrapers as the challenge heated up.

@renakunisaki

2 жыл бұрын

Optimization always manages to suck the fun out 🤪

@MouseGoat

2 жыл бұрын

Math allways seems to devolve tings into squares lol

@rushi5638

2 жыл бұрын

@@MouseGoat Well, at least when it comes to packing things into a square. Math *really* likes circles though. See: our sun, which shares very little in common with the square one from Minecraft. :p

@GordonSlamsay

2 жыл бұрын

@@rushi5638 wait, our sun isn't a square? why am I just learning this?

@tek4

Жыл бұрын

But but but what if there is beauty in cleaning up them messy loopy swoopys?

the insanity of this game never ceases to be absolutely hilarious

@HowieDue416

2 жыл бұрын

I havent played this game since the early 2000's but I truly appreciate the intensity this man has taken it to. If there was a university degree for RCT2, Marcel Vos would be the very first head of the department.

This was actually a really good documentary style video! Very interesting, and kept me invested all the way through. Also gave me similar vibes to Summoning Salt's videos.

@MarcelVos

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe I should've used his iconic music for ultimate video game documentary vibes.

@flaskoflife9044

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarcelVos yes

@a.guy.named.erik.

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarcelVos Glad you didn't use his music, a lot of Salt-inspired 'world record progression' videos end up feeling like a watered down version of Salt's content rather than an original production due to how many elements they copy. This felt like an authentic Marcel Vos video throughout, which is exactly what I'm here to watch.

@MrJimmysteel25

2 жыл бұрын

@@a.guy.named.erik. I agree

@OriginalPiMan

2 жыл бұрын

@@a.guy.named.erik. Perhaps only use 2-3 seconds of it, at a time when it doesn't fit the context.

I love this game & this channel.

@27toten

2 жыл бұрын

and I love you!

@melangium

2 жыл бұрын

What is this, a crossover episode?

@MarcelVos

2 жыл бұрын

Right back at ya!

@FoliumSakura

2 жыл бұрын

a surprise, but a pleasant one

@Paintplayer1

2 жыл бұрын

Now all we need is spirit of the law in here and my life will be complete

RCT2: Lets make everything bigger! Bigger maps, more space, more rites, more everything! Big is Better! Marcel: Lets make everything smaller, more compact and dense.

@midasvijfwinkel6116

2 жыл бұрын

Rites? Are those rollercoasters where someone gets sacrificed halfway? :^)

@StriKe_jk

2 жыл бұрын

@@midasvijfwinkel6116 Hahaha didn't even notice! I'll let in^^

@midasvijfwinkel6116

2 жыл бұрын

@@StriKe_jk Please do, it's way funnier this way ;)

@No19Name94

2 жыл бұрын

Of course smaller, more compact and dense. You're a Dutchie or not ;)

@VocalMabiMaple

2 жыл бұрын

@@midasvijfwinkel6116 you cant tell me you never drowned crowds in rct2

CHALLENGE ACCCEPTED! While watching your video I thought to myself, surely there must be a way to achieve more track length. So I started a small test setup and checked what is possible. In fact, with a small change to your design, I managed to achieve a total length of 17,288 meters. Surely not much, but still 52m more than your previous record. For this I replaced the big flat curves of the helix with a short straight, a small curve and again a short straight. Perhaps by small changes in the upper and/or lower range of the roller coaster again 2-3 meters can be brought out. However, I have not yet tried this at the current stage. Excitement rating: 4,10 (Medium) Intensity rating: 8,67 (Very high) Nausea rating: 6.90 (High)

@HannibalGraham

Жыл бұрын

1 year later, still completely ignored.

@janfussel7070

Жыл бұрын

@@HannibalGraham yes, unfortunately. 😥

@JvBeuningen26

10 ай бұрын

It seems to me that we're one of the few if not only ones who accepted the challenge. Did you try and build an even longer one than the 17,288 meter one? I just build a 17,406m one. Seems to me like we're right on the limit and the challenge is to optimize the layout for the last few meters.@@janfussel7070

@janfussel7070

10 ай бұрын

You could actually be right that we are the only ones who are still trying to get the best out of it. And no, unfortunately I didn't have time to try again to build a longer track. In fact, the difference should be only a few meters. Maybe I will have the time to try again later.

Those 10x10s that have reasonable excitement and intensity ratings look absolutely awesome! Their tangling tracks remind me of an indoor coaster at the West Edmonton Mall I once rode. Brilliant!

@StereoTyp0

2 жыл бұрын

MindBender?

@roddydykes7053

2 жыл бұрын

The Mindbender is pretty sweet. So insane that it’s part of a mall. I wouldn’t mind living in Edmonton just for that massive place

@damiansmith5294

5 ай бұрын

It brings me a massive amount of sadness that it's leaving.

I love that everytime stickman Marcel is on screen, that the park guest count is 6,969 guests, nice

@novafawks

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, didn't even notice that!

@TheAmazingRacoon

2 жыл бұрын

Oh wauw haha

@Meaddie

2 жыл бұрын

also year 420

@davidmoore1253

2 жыл бұрын

@@Meaddie And it's 6th September, 6/9 (for Europeans)

@MarcelVos

2 жыл бұрын

No one ever notices the pi money :(

Impressive how this resembles microbiological concepts like surface area to volume ratios for cells and organelles. When you're stuck in a confined environment and trying to max out efficiency, natural design begins to resemble manmade.

@Ryougi

2 жыл бұрын

Great insight. Suddenly the shape of DNA is sensible!

@peterpop-off

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting!

if riding a roller coaster always seems so much shorter than when you're just watching it, do you think it would still feel shorter even on a 17km, half-hour long ride?

@smam741

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe not if it repeats the same turns so many times

@b-chroniumproductions3177

2 жыл бұрын

Except first drops, those feel longer irl :)

@Shpinkterify

2 жыл бұрын

Depends how long you had to wait in line

@methoxeta

2 жыл бұрын

You would have to ask Mr. Bones about that one.

Ah, you missed the opportunity to do a Summoning Salt parody with that "We're Finally Landing" song. Maybe in the next world record progression... haha. Which now makes me think, what's the most INTENSE ride you can fit in a 10x10? Or smaller size?

@franciscofernandez8183

2 жыл бұрын

Fancy meeting you here, distinguish sir.

@Captaincrab77

2 жыл бұрын

Summoning Salt x Marcel Vos crossover???

@TrianglePants

2 жыл бұрын

Ray-tracing/marching 3D roller coaster game? Roller coaster fractals?

These optimization problems are really fascinating. Curious to see if anyone tries to take this further!

This was interesting, I like how the video is kind of a "space race" documentary. I think it'd be neat for you to host Reddit challenges, and then document the events of the challenge in this format.

@frostking79

2 жыл бұрын

Duerklink(sp?) has somewhat similar challenges on his channel

@DrSpaceman69

2 жыл бұрын

Yep!

Remember, multiply the RCT cost by ~10,000 to get the actual cost.

@stepheneefting7989

2 жыл бұрын

casual 25,000€ hamburger and 200,000€ umbrellas

@TChapman500Gaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@stepheneefting7989 I meant for roller coasters.

@Schpit

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine building toilets for 2,250,000€

@TChapman500Gaming

2 жыл бұрын

@@Schpit U.S. government has you beat on that one. Some parks under their jurisdiction cost $3,000,000 and are in terrible shape.

@FFKonoko

2 жыл бұрын

@@TChapman500Gaming did you just compare a national park to a toilet in a theme park?

The "Review By Year" slide at the end reminds me of SimCity's Arcologies.

@nthgth

2 жыл бұрын

Yes!

Marcel pushing the limits of rct is the highlight of my day

I feel like "longest 10x10 coaster with excitement above 4 and intensity lower than 10" would be quite an interesting challenge, given how complex the intensity and excitement calculations can get. There would probably not be a decent way to approach that theoretically, though, so it'd be more art than science, in a way.

@Lukeno52

Жыл бұрын

Ironically enough the 16,776m coaster actually fits that perfectly, so it would be a case of somehow balancing the difference between that and the final design.

This definitely reminds me of Wirtual's Trackmania speedrun documentary videos... And then Marcel built... this coaster... Seventeen kilometres. Marcel improved on his own 2016 world record by a full kilometre.

@JasonMortimer3

2 жыл бұрын

I came here looking for this comment

Really enjoyed this one. It's always a treat to see the RCT2 shenannigans Marcel got up to even before he had a youtube channel.

The only downside of the last design is that it breaks 10 intensity. One last challenge for this would be to get longest coaster without any red numbers.

@Bonde7280

2 жыл бұрын

Would be a little effy to change the rules after 10 years

@nickh8721

2 жыл бұрын

Except that coaster type is forgiving enough that you can have a stat penalty for lateral G's for example and still be under 10 intensity. Requiring it to be under 10 intensity and requiring it to have "no red numbers" are therefore completely different requirements. I don't think requiring it to have no red numbers at all would be that good of a requirement, as you just wouldn't be able to make something anywhere near as long.

@Pystro

2 жыл бұрын

In the 6x6 helix tower, instead of the level 90° curves of size 3x3, couldn't you use the same level 90° curves as in the 4x4 helix tower? Argh, no!!! My idea was that it'd give you single-tile gaps where you can put brakes. But those track pieces are banked, so no brakes, right? This trick would only add little a bit of length. Which would help with the record, but not the g-forces. I guess any coaster with no lateral g penalty will have to switch more often between the helixes and the lift tracks. Any continuous run on the 4x4 helix will just kill you - at 4.07g almost literally. You could start ascending 1 section on 10x10, 1 down on 6x6, 3 up on 8x8, 1 down on 4x4, 3 up on 10x10, 1 down on 6x6, ... (alternating between 3 up and 1 down). And on the way down you alternate between 3 down and 1 up, ending with ...1 up on 8x8, 3 down on 6x6, 1 up on 10x10, 2 down on 4x4. Note that the sections don't have to be the same fraction of the 42 levels, so that you could optimize their heights for minimum g-forces. If you can get away with sections that are 1/5th of the coaster height, the only parts that need to go between the parts of the ascending and descending sequences that I've explicitly written would be: "... ascending 1 on the 8x8, descending 2 on the 4x4,...". This would mean that you never descend more than 2 sections on the 4x4 and only descend 3 sections on the 6x6 helix.

@carbon1255

2 жыл бұрын

Even though it takes 30 minutes to complete? the guests will want to get off after 5.

I love how the larger coasters just end up looking like skyscrapers.

When I first found your channel I was worried that after a while you'd run out of things to talk about. You have completely disproven this thought. When I first played this game more than a decade and a half ago I never thought I'd be genuinely interested in the evolution of the world record for longest 10x10 coaster by length, but here I am.

I built the design featured at 2:27 in an Extreme Heights play through. WOW! This coaster is one of the best performing and fun to watch in the park. (The best / most popular is the 10+ Giga coaster design of yours.) Well done with the design. My son loves watching the coaster run too. Watching the trains weaving through the track is quite enjoyable.

I pretty much LOVE how the last ride of 2016 is also in freaking good ride in terms of stats ! Makes it quite a good choice (although expansive) for who wants to add a huuuuge tower inside his/her park ! :o

1:13 I would include, the usability of the entrance and exit buildings (reachable by paths)

What's the theoretical maximum for 10x10? Like what's the full possible (height / 3m) * (length/trackpiece) * 100?

@MarcelVos

2 жыл бұрын

That's a very good question! A single straight track piece is 4.26 meters long and you can stack 42 of them. 100 tiles * 42 high * 4.26 = 17,892 meters, which is only barely higher than what I had. The dense helix towers and bumpy tracks are denser than this theoretical calculation, the max is a bit longer than the answer we just got.

@Graknorke

2 жыл бұрын

I think that's a difficult question to answer without some in-depth knowledge of clearances and stuff, since if you're talking purely abstractly, you can draw a line of any arbitrarily large line inside any volume, the thing that would limit it is how close the track can be to itself. The (in my opinion) intuitive answer would be to try and treat it like a block system where the maximum would be traversing every "block" once, so the support limit times the number of tiles. But that obviously doesn't work, since 128m * 100 is 12.8km, less than some of the coasters in the video.

@tifforo1

2 жыл бұрын

The answer depends on how the game decides whether you've met the 3 meter clearance requirement. I don't believe it is necessary that the upper layer of the stacked coaster is 3 meters away from the layer below when measuring the distance at any angle (such as perpendicular to a sloped piece), only that the VERTICAL distance is 3 meters. Basically, not counting the parts where each "floor" of the skyscraper coaster connects to the next floor, the total length is the length of track on each floor, times the number of floors. The number of floors is basically just the support limit divided by 3, with a slight reduction if there is height variation within each floor. But how long the track on each floor can be is a bit more complicated.

@tifforo1

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Marcel, is there any way to get the horizontal clearance between two track pieces at the same height down to less than 4.26 meters? Or is the fact that the tiles are that far apart and you can only have one piece per tile a hard restriction on getting that down? Can the curved pieces overlap into the same tile in a way that allows more than one parallel track per 4.26 meters?

You know what kind of documentary I'd love to see - a history of the RCT community in general. I don't know who's the right person to make it, but it would be awesome.

this was a great video!! really enjoyed the "documentary style", as you put it. keep up the awesome work marcel!!!

I kinda want to build a park consisting entirely of these 'skyscraper' coasters and have it be in the theme of a big city or something of the sort

I really liked this format, its great to see some history of the game as well, even if I remembered some of the coasters from when they were posted it was fun seeing them again in this way, definitely added to the content

I really did like the historical narrative approach! It honors and shows the history of this game that we all love (even though I don't play it, it always brings back good memories!!!)

I KNEW there was going to be a "but" when you said the story came to an end in 2016 lol. No good WR progression video goes without one anymore! 😉

Another of those many questions you've never asked or known was asked but upon seeing the thumbnail, nothing else matters but finding the answer and the progression. Love it.

Wow, I absolutely loved this video. I love when I find some Boss/Kimg running a channel for a game I forgot about. Subscribed; keep it up!

I really enjoyed the documentary style of the video! In general I love your channel and what you put out. Always down to earth and calming, straight to the point and knowledgeable. You get exactly what the title says and more, reliably👌 Happy holidays, Marcel😊🎄

This was a cool challenge and format! Your editing always helps. Though I admit I think I might be more interested in practical design challenges that would be helpful in normal play.

As always, great video!! I remember when you only had like 10k subscribers, my how the times have changed! Happy for you

I really enjoyed this video style, it’s interesting, informative, and engaging!

Great video and interesting to me in a similar sort of vain to speedrun videos for other games which I also find very interesting when done well. It is great to see how the challenge started out along with the progression of it over time, often with surprises and turns in the story as it develops. Really liked this style of video Marcel, thank you!

Stellar video, Marcel. You're honestly a sage of RCT2.

Would you be able to improve this at all by putting the station at the top?

@rubberwoody

2 жыл бұрын

Can't put station that tall

I love your videos. I’ve been playing RCT since it first came out in 1999. (22 years? I had no idea it had been so long.) Your videos introduced Me to OpenRCT. Thanks so much!

Your videos are really good. Ive been enjoying them awhile now, keep up the great work!

Great video! Ive been following for a few months now and all your videos are interesting great job!

Marcel your videos are great because they are: focused, they don't waist my time, I learn more than I thought I would. Although it seems simple what youre doing I know it isn't. Keep it up!

Loved this video! I know very little about the fan community of rct2 and what's done in it, so love these little windows into both that & pushing the elements in the game to their most brutally efficient use to get xyz result, whatever "xyz" may be.

This was so awesome. Thank you Marcel for quality entertainment!

Loved the video bro, keep them coming!

Excellent. Always love your videos, and enjoyed the documentary-style format

Really cool stuff! Edit after watching: If this was long-form and historical compared to other videos, it was enjoyed thoroughly. Hope to see more! Happy holidays.

I love 'history of world record' style videos. I'd love to see more, if you're up for it.

was great one! love getting to see the evolution and compition.

RCT is a Legendary game, I grew up playing it. Seeing the stats of the coaster after you spend your time creating it is so very satisfying. Seeing the riders get sick is even better.

I love these kind of videos, people pushing extremely niche challenge to there extreme limits! Great video man!

That was fascinating to see, just how much energy can be put into optimising designs!

I love this format! I would definitely enjoy more history-style overviews!

Love this video, especially when they're all lined up next to each other! I'd be interested in more record progressions :)

This is a great video and I enjoyed it immensely. More like this if you have other topics you'd be interested in covering!

Wow. So impressed with the incredible amount of passion and effort you put into this video. Well done!

I didn't played RTC for a real long ttime but I extremly enjoy watching your videos. I love this theorycraft of that game. It's really funny to see how a game goes sience. :D

An absolute steal! Lekker bezig Marcel :D!

I'm a really big fan of this style of video, hope to see more!

I love when people make videos like this about their own legends of internet shenanigans and competitions Thanks alot for sharing

Always cool to see you breaking barriers and reaching new limits in your videos.

Amazing video, Marcel Vos! :D You've got my like!

heard you mention this in the VOD of a stream, had to check it out

Always new things to find! Amazing

That was great! I'd love to see more coaster challenge videos.

Very interesting! I like those kind of videos.

Thanks for the callout!

@MarcelVos

2 жыл бұрын

Oh my god, you actually responded. Thank you so much for inspiring me 6 years ago, as the 10x10 coaster saga has played a fairly big part in my RCT2 journey.

I absolutely love your videos! You have so much passion and I think we all (I dare to speak for the community) feel this passion in your videos! PLEASE keep up the great work! Much love from Germany!

i feckin love compact aesthetic like this thank you for showing it

Happy new year Marcel!

Is it weird that I can almost imagine the ultimate 10x10 length coaster as an actual attraction? It's a ~30 minute ride, which would be just long enough for a short but narratively complete movie that maybe you should show during the ride, timing the first and second climaxes of the movie with the descent helices?

From the moment you brought up density, I was waiting for the large helixs around a small helix tower.

i love the documentary style video! would love to see more if possible

Well done! What a monster!

That's so funny, I am very involved with the Super Mario World kaizo community and I know Ferpy McFrosting from there. I was not expecting to see their name in a RCT video

2.000 km's was your goal years back, now you're nearing 10 times that length. You guys are insane and i'm so happy

I used to think I was an RCT expert until I found Marcel Vos... Good Gravy... Well made video friend!

Great stuff as always

Great video Marcell. Do more like it

Gonna tell my kids this is what a wild mouse coaster is

one of your best vids so far.

I see I'm not the only one who randomly got recommended history of TrackMania speedruns by Wirtual :) yes, the documentarys are great to watch

"This ride is too long." "I need to pee."

Marcel, I really enjoyed this documentary style video and would like to see more like it.

I loved this documentary-style video!

I will have to politely decline your invitation to try this myself. You are the king

10x10 tile coasters used to be my thing. One can do a lot with just those tiles. I just love that challenge.

I really liked this style video. 👍

Love videos like this, would be great is you made more!

Nice skyscrapers to plop around for sure!

Super interesting video! Showing the cost of the coaster at the end made me wonder: what is the most expensive coaster possible? Maybe that could be a future video.

@TheRedstoneNL

2 жыл бұрын

great idea bro

You're a monster, haha. Love your videos!

Nice video, as a Dutch person your accent doesn't even bother me that much, it adds to the video for some reason.

Every time I watch one of your videos it makes me boot up rct2 again for a little while

What's funny is that your last 2016 design also manages to have its stats be less than 10. Amazing!

Really enjoyed the documentary style!