Thanks for this. This was really helpful. I’ve had a Warbonnet XLC for 10 years and a ridge runner for a couple of years. I’ve been toying with the idea of getting a banyan for the sturdier ridge lines for a hangtime hook which will support a large phone. I was almost at the stage of pulling the trigger although your cons of the banyan with the storage are one of the things I love about the ridge runner. The teething issues are also giving me pause for thought as the RR is tried and tested. Really helpful. Thanks All the best from Scotland!

@AbundantAdventures

Ай бұрын

Glad it helped! Thanks for watching and commenting 🙂

Good review. Thank you for making and posting. Newbie to hammock system camping.

@AbundantAdventures

6 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful. Cheers.

Thanks for that video mate! It really seems that the banyan would serve me better, as I have bugs all year around so the hammock is mainly for sleeping. I own a couple chameleons and use it with the double bug net and the spreader bar to keep the two hammocks a certain distance from each other. Yes those bars ends are a hazard for tarps. If you cut them to trim the excess you risk to make it more prone to disconnect it from the hammock. What I did was replace these tips for hex head screws. Tight fit on the bar super glue them, cut the length just enough to fill the titanium dutch stuff hole, but had to file the screw treads( unevenly, so you need to wiggle it to disconnect it) to make it have a snug fit. The treaded shape makes a much more secure connection.

@AbundantAdventures

6 ай бұрын

Now thats someone on a mission to improve his hammock setup. I like it man!

Nice content . Thank u for sharing with us

@AbundantAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Your welcome. Glad it's helped someone.

Great video, thanks for putting it out. I've been eyeing the Banyan for a while, so I'm glad I found this video. I don't need another hammock and I prefer the gathered-ends anyway, but it's that compulsive buyer disorder that I have when it comes to hammocks that I really need to get under control, hahaha. Funny we all have our quirks. I have a bunch of hammocks including a Ridge Runner and a Chameleon. The Chameleon is my go-to hammock for 99% of my outings, I find that it's more comfortable in just about any situation that the RR. There is a calf ridge issue indeed that I only started noticing recently. So I fix that by sliding a camp pillow under my knees. Then after I fall asleep, the calf ridge doesn't seem to bother me that much and the pillow gets kicked around out of the way. I agree on the ease of set-up of the bridge hammocks versus the gathered-ends. But I also enjoy that fiddle factor. It's kind of part of the ritual of camping for me. As far as the storage options. I actually like the peak loft, and the ridgeline organizers better than the sidecars. I don't have a sidecar on my Chameleon because I don't want to add more weight to it. But I do have those saddle bags on the RR and I'm not a big fan. In fact I've thought about installing a ridgeline on that RR so that I can hang stuff from it. But since I hardly ever use that hammock, it's not a top priority at this point. In general, everybody needs to find what works for them individually, but videos like this are great because they highlight different aspects of a given set-up, good and bad, that perhaps people had not thought about, and which can help them when making a gear decision.

@AbundantAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for the great reply! Glad my video was helpful. Yes, everyone has to find the hammock and style this right for them. I love trying new hammocks as well so trust me when I say I understand the impulse to buy a new hammock. I try to sell stuff after I use it, so I don't feel so bad buying something new. But then I end up having a hard time parting with it hahaha.

Thanks for the insight between these two hammocks.

@AbundantAdventures

Жыл бұрын

Your welcome.

Another great video! Very informative and neat to see what issues can happen with hammocks. I'm just a dirty ground dweller! XD

@AbundantAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Ground dwellers....yuck. hahaha

Thanks Great video!! I own the chameleon. Thinking of getting the banyon. After your video I’m it to sure now lol

@AbundantAdventures

Жыл бұрын

Glad the video was helpful. If I were you I'd ask yourself why your getting the hammock and what you will use it for. The banyan might be the perfect hammock for you.

I have the ridge runner and the banyan also an Amok the most comfortable by far is the Amok but in my humble opinion you get a far better comfortable lay in a bridge hammock I have numerous gathered end hammocks and every time I move from on my side to the other comfort is out of the window for me personally its a bridge hammock or a tent

I agree with mostly everything you've said, but with a few disagreements. I also have the Banyan and Chameleon and made a comparison video. I prefer the Chameleon, but it's a close race. I find the Banyan to not be a good 'lounger' and is really only good for 1 thing: sleeping like a robot. You can't move a lot in the Banyan because first off, it's small... and second, any change in the center of gravity will cause a lot of tippyness.

@AbundantAdventures

Ай бұрын

yeah I agree. I think I covered that in this video. I liked having an easier time lounging at the end of a long day on trail over the little bit easier lay in the bridge hammock.

I prefer the bridge hammocks for sleeping at home or in a garden (I have the Ridgerunner at the moment) but the gathered ends are just more comfortable for lounging and more convienient and practical under a tarp in the woods. I'm still looking for a good gathered end to take on a longer trip (6 weeks). So far the best hammock I have is a home made one from 1.9oz 70D nylon at 10 feet long, but I still get hyperextension of my knees (I'm 5'8) and a little bit of a calf ridge. I found switching from a 40D fabric to a 70D fabric helped a lot with the calf ridge (less stretch probably) but still I wouldn't take this one on a long trip. On my first hammock trip 25 miles into the backcountry took me 2 extra days to get home because I woke up in the morning with terrible calf pain that made it impossible to walk for more than two hours. Not something I want to experience again ;) So far I've tried the Warbonnet gathered ends in 10' and 11' but they only make them in the thinner 40D nylon nowdays which gave me too much of a calf ridge. Do you have any tips/experience with hammock length, fabric or manufacturer for a comfortable diagonal lay?

@AbundantAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

People that have issues with calf ridge usually enjoy the bridge hammock style. It completely gets rid of that issue all together. No fuss or muss about it. However, if you don't want to commit to bringing the bridge hammock on your extended trip, you can do a few things to help with calf ridge. The easiest but more costly way to fix it is to get a longer hammock. You could go all the way up to a 12 foot hammock and maybe try to get a wider hammock and see if that helps. You could also try a whipped hammock or maybe even get a stiffer hammock with a double layer. I personally don't have too many issues with calf ridge because my wrestless leg syndrome makes me move around so much. I do however start off the night by push and flattening out my hammock fabric with my feet so I don't start out the night with a calf ridge while trying to get to sleep. Keep in mind, the angle you are laying in your hammock and your positioning in general matter quite a bit as well for you calf ridge. Calf ridge is one really good example of why people don't really like gathered end style hammocks. They take quite a bit of work to figure out, and there is no guarantee that once you do figure it out that the next hammock you get will perform the same. The bridge hammocks are simple, its the shelter part that gets complicated with them. I hope this helps.

@Luke-eg1gn

2 жыл бұрын

@@AbundantAdventures thanks for the reply. I just built another hammock of 70D 1.9oz nylon extra long at 12', and wrapped an additional adjustable paracord whipping around one end of the hammock which can slide up and down, allowing me to adjust the effective hammock length on the fly. Managed to almost eliminate the calf ridge. It seems apart from the thickness and stretch of the fabric it's very dependent on the height, weight, and proportions of the individual.

@AbundantAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

@@Luke-eg1gn awesome. You can adjust the whipped end to help smooth out the specific part that's bunching up and giving you the calf ridge. I'm glad it worked out for you.

Thanks for honest comparison. Can you tell what is the lenght needed for tarp for banyan bridge?

@Kutkis

2 жыл бұрын

And I hope some day banyan will be in stock. I really like two ridge lines keeping distance for noisy mosqitos

@AbundantAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

12 ft worked for me but most people go with a 13 ft. Depends on what coverage your comfortable with.

The need for a Bridge specific UQ with the Banyon might need to be considered in terms of the overall cost comparison... but then again I suppose it doesn't matter if you cant buy a Banyan!

@AbundantAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Well to be fair one of the pros to his attachment points is you can use them with a traditional underquilt as well. I found the short size of hammock gear quilts fit nicely.

What underquilt is used with the Bayan in this video?

@AbundantAdventures

Жыл бұрын

That's made by George over at loco libre. I can't recommend him enough. Great product.

I really want to see a updated version on the old m1966 jungle hammock. I'm 6' 1" and 300lbs every gathered end hammock I have tried I can't sleep because I end up rolling in line with the hammock and wake up like a banana. I'm thinking about maybe the Clark hammock since Dutchware bought them out.

@AbundantAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

I dont own a Clark personally but I know some bigger people that have had them and like them. They are definately a trusted design. I think they would be great for winter camping too.

@jasonmashburn1280

2 жыл бұрын

@@AbundantAdventures think I found one I want to try, endurance room did a review on it. It's called the Russian army special forces mountain tent hammock.

@AbundantAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonmashburn1280 that sounds fancy, and luxuries. I'll have to check it out sometime.

@jasonmashburn1280

2 жыл бұрын

@@AbundantAdventures if you do try and find one on eBay, I won't to the site he said he got his from and they want, $295.00 for it

Hi Scott!!

@AbundantAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Troy!

Anyone else notice this ground dweller? I mean there's a mattress right next to the hammock! Quit mocking us real hammockers! Signed - DB Jk great comparison buddy!

@AbundantAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Haha yeah, I had to move my sister in laws stuff out of her apartment since she got a short notice deployment. Know anyone who wants to buy a bed? Hahaha

@joshuasauer2560

2 жыл бұрын

@@AbundantAdventures lolz! The used bed market is tough. Not sure I could make a clean decission.

@AbundantAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuasauer2560 just pretend it's a new bed. It's all in the mind lol