Oh, Game of Thrones...this is how you do a descent into darkness.

@SirMarshalHaig

4 жыл бұрын

Paved with good intentions.

@timeforgottenprince8271

3 жыл бұрын

@@SirMarshalHaig "All of the worst things imaginable were done with the best intentions."

@DrownedInExile

3 жыл бұрын

"There are two great tragedies in life. One is not getting what you want. The other is getting it."

@gregorymatthews1881

3 жыл бұрын

@@timeforgottenprince8271 "In the history of the world more harm has been done by people who thought they were doing the right thing than by anybody else." --Lucy van Pelt (aka Lucy from Peanuts)

@bluntman1138

3 жыл бұрын

Its also how you do a good redemption arc. Londo is a character study of a descent into darkness with a satisfying redemption.

And hence the tragedy of Londo Mollari. It was interesting to see his character develop throughout the show's run. From bitter hatred of G'Kar to their later friendship, and both learned from each other. Alas, as you pointed out, Mollari's deal with Morden doomed him and Centauri Prime. But he did get a few licks in, didn't he? Destroying the Shadows' base on Centauri Prime, and later having Morden's head on a pike as a gift to Vir. Hard not to feel a little sorry for him, no?

@marsar1775

2 жыл бұрын

Londo is far from a hero, or even antihero. but is he a villan? no. i dont think so. not at the end of the series

@TonyBootlegger

2 жыл бұрын

I think Londo was a true patriot, he loved his world and his people and would do anything for them but the question " what do you want" is, I'm sure we can agree a very dangerous one when someone as powerful as Mr Morden is the one asking.

@tomitiustritus6672

2 жыл бұрын

There is a moment when G'kar is genuinely offering friendship and you see Londo breaking inside, as he knows that G'kar doesn't know yet that it is too late for Londo to turn back. And that is the moment that defines the character, even in his descent. He crossed a line he couldn't uncross, not knowing the full picture, he realized what he did immediately after, but he could not turn back anymore and he still tried to fight it. He is a wonderfully ambivalent character. There is no redemption for what he did, yet he is increasingly consumed by his honest wish to redeem himself, knowing full well that he will never be. But he knows its the only right thing to do anyways and that continuing on in the other direction is no option for him. Thats what i loved avout B5 so much. It was ambivalent.

@tatianalyulkin410

Жыл бұрын

He's definitely NOT a Hitler.

@coachhannah2403

Жыл бұрын

Londo was the 'best' character in the arc.

its 2021 & this is still the pinnacle of storytelling & deep character development! RIP Londo Mollary, the most tragic figure in scifi!

@michaeldiekmann6494

2 жыл бұрын

In 2022 Centauri Prime's storyline reminds me of Russia today.

@BattlestarDamocles

Жыл бұрын

@@michaeldiekmann6494 You mean Nazi Ukraine right?

@alexanderkuptsov6117

Жыл бұрын

@@michaeldiekmann6494 That's ok, one day it will start reminding you of the US.

@walkir2662

Жыл бұрын

2023, and the competition keeps getting worse.

@NIGHTFLIGHTVIDEO

Жыл бұрын

The most tragic character? I'd put him up against Garrick on deep space nine. He barely reconciled with his father before he died. And in the end, his world was nearly burnt to a cinder at the end of the Dominion war. Then there's DeMar , his family was murdered by the dominion and his world burnt to a cinder, He had nothing to live for so he charged into battle and gave his life for his world.

There were a number of choice roles in _Babylon 5_, but none more so than that of Ambassador / Emperor Londo Mollari ... and Peter Jurasik took it and RAN with it. Tip of the hat, Peter. You OWNED it.

@HappisakVideos

7 жыл бұрын

I loved, hated, liked, disliked, pitied and condemned Londo. Such a character, brilliant.

@podemosurss8316

6 жыл бұрын

Troubleshooter125 His acting is excellent

@barrybend7189

5 жыл бұрын

Don't discount the person who played Vir.

@duaneelliott2327

5 жыл бұрын

Mr. Morden is up there with londo malarie

@shyone968

5 жыл бұрын

I found two kitten in my garage tussling like they had to or die. One feral kitten had one eye. I named them Londo and G'Kar

in the end, i can only hope we are as noble as londo dreamt us to be.

@timeforgottenprince8271

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed.

@repealsection230forbigtech4

3 жыл бұрын

Typical sci-fi craaa. p, where they put humanity on a pedestal and boast about how exceptional humanity is. Pure childish propaganda. What cliche drivel.

@timeforgottenprince8271

3 жыл бұрын

​@@repealsection230forbigtech4 Typical arrogant asshole, where they have to ruin everything just to feel good about themselves. Pathetic.

@oldfrend

3 жыл бұрын

@@timeforgottenprince8271 see that repeal230 thing in his name? typical trump supporting moron. he's soulless cultist so he's never felt a shred of hope in his sad life.

@austininflorida

3 жыл бұрын

@@repealsection230forbigtech4 Have you watched Babylon 5? The humans are not always the good guys.

Anyone else get chills watching that Nova class dreadnaught taking the warcruiser down with it?

@RuralTowner

3 жыл бұрын

It would've survived too had the cruiser's death pyre not consumed it. EFNI.org has an excellent fan write up that covers this moment.

It's important to remember, too, that Mollari wasn't the only one who hated the Narns and pushed for war - Lord Refa, Cartagia, etc. And when Mollari learned of the Shadows' first attacks on Narn, he was aghast.... "But you killed 10,000 Narns!" I think that was when he realized the terrible mistake he had made, and how ruthless his new 'associates' were. Love him or hate him, Mollari was colorful and complex character. I loved the writing and characters of this show!

@thedarkprinceVvvvV

3 жыл бұрын

Very true, He also turned on reifa as well who pretty much was the Heinrich Himmler of the show after narn fell. Which was a nice twist for Londo to say enough is enough this isn't what I asked for.

@Zeithri

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forge the abject horror on his face as he witnesses the bombing of Narn first hand. It's not music that's a celebration of victory - it's the music of tragedy.

@nelsonchereta816

Жыл бұрын

When Morden asked him, 'What do you want?' Molari answered honestly, he wanted power, glory, respect, for him and his people. He loved the concept of bringing back the 'good old days' of the Republic. It was only when he had to look at the reality of what that meant that he regretted it.

@derekfancett8218

Жыл бұрын

@@nelsonchereta816 Make Centari Great Again; reminds me of something, can't put my finger on it.

@ganados0

11 ай бұрын

I don't think Mollari hated the Narn, I think as an ambassador he developed a terrible attitude towards them because he was raised and worked in the republic in it's decline and got shit from both Narns and the league for his ancestors misdeeds, he resented being judged for their actions and pushed back after one of his family was nearly annexed by the Narn in the opening episode and for when G'kar blackmailed him when they put Sinclair on trial in the pilot. He wanted his people to be strong and respected but wasn't prepared for the cost.

Like Delenn once said to the Gray Council, "Those passions you deplore ... are what make them so great. The ability to fight against impossible odds"

@DavidKnowles0

8 ай бұрын

This is why the earth civil war needs and make more sense to happen before the end of the shadow. The Alliance needs human passions to fight the shadows. An to cut off the shadow supply lines to human telepaths.

One of the best written characters in Science Fiction, totally taken by Jurasik's performance here...

@tinfoilhatnews7489

6 жыл бұрын

LivingForce oh how right you are. This show was underrated and my friends and family are hooked

@andrewjackson2011

5 жыл бұрын

LivingForce I honestly think the characters in Babylon 5 we're some of the best ever written and acted, and this this gives me hope that one day humanity will be as one. I have a motto a stupid line from a song but it means so much to me, it's this, won't stop to surrender.

@marktisdale8058

5 жыл бұрын

I got to meet and speak with him for some time once, long ago. He is an interesting person off-screen as well.

@tomitiustritus6672

2 жыл бұрын

*in science fiction TV series.

Many shows make aliens appear... well, alien... by virtue of appearance or culture. Babylon 5 approached aliens from a psychological difference. Humans didn't just LOOK different - they THINK differently, and that's a large part of what the show is about - alien races constantly being surprised by the compassion and tenacity of the human race.

@idiomaxiom

3 жыл бұрын

Also has key races that are decidedly non-humanoid.

@asbjrnfossmo1589

Жыл бұрын

There is a theory that evolution must come to a point where the brain is protected by a skull, elevated, and there will always be a need for fingers, etc, so there are many reasons to believe that alien life would have much the same appearance as earth life. Numbers of fingers, eyes, limbs may differ, and internal organs may be vastly different, but appearances would still be similar. Thinking - That's where you'd find the greatest differences. So the show is actually pretty close (or even perfect for what we know) to what you'd expect from real aliens.

@tsm688

Жыл бұрын

@@asbjrnfossmo1589 I think that's bunk. We have smart, dextrous life-forms on earth which aren't anything like us.

@brokenshadow549080

10 ай бұрын

​@tsm688 they are smart but they are not dominant for some reason or another. And let's not kid ourselves and understand that apart from apes any other intelligent creature on earth is unable to advance further than where they are due to morphology or their environmental adaptations, which proves the point they would look similar to us if they were spacefaring at the very least

@SoDakJason

9 ай бұрын

Reminds me of Soval's comment to Admiral Forrest in Enterprise. Soval : We don't know what to do about Humans. Of all the species we've made contact with, yours is the only one we can't define. You have the arrogance of Andorians, the stubborn pride of Tellarites. One moment, you're as driven by your emotions as Klingons, and the next, you confound us by suddenly embracing logic. Forrest : I'm sure those qualities are found in every species. Soval : Not in such confusing abundance.

In my life I had 4 favourite sci-fi TV shows. I cared for them all deeply, but I *loved* Babylon 5.

@dennistomsen5822

4 жыл бұрын

So true but Babylon 5 at least seems to have found a true spiritual heir in The Expanse 👌

One of the best scenes I have ever seen in any series not just SciFi. Peter's delivery of the lines, Christoph's score and the cinematography are absolutely spell binding. Three minutes I find myself coming back to again and again, year after year and still it has the same emotional impact as the first time when I was nerdy college student just beginning to truly ponder this great mystery of life. I am proud to count Michael J Straczynski as one of the greatest teachers I ever had.

@tehanua4383

10 ай бұрын

kinda said it all there for me

That is one of the best speeches that sums up humanity. With all the stupid things we do, when it comes to hopeless causes and fighting to the bitter end humans never give up easily.

@jasonx9591

5 жыл бұрын

We never give up, period. So if you start a fight with us, you better be able to finish it.

@weldonwin

5 жыл бұрын

@@jasonx9591What ever happens Mankind will go down fighting, swinging to the bitter end

@Infernal460

5 жыл бұрын

"Hope, it is simultaneously your species greatest strength and greatest weakness".

@2QRh6g1I

4 жыл бұрын

@@jasonx9591 You do realize that human arrogancy and stupidity started the Earth-Minbari war right?

@neilhenderson5581

4 жыл бұрын

@@2QRh6g1I I think there was more than enough arrogance and stupidity to go around, personally. Poor Delenn.

Emotion. This series was made out of EMOTION. No other TV series has ever brought me to tears as often or as powerfully. Londo...

Probably one of the best non-G'Kar monologues in the entire series.

@podemosurss8316

6 жыл бұрын

Londo is as good as G'Kar when it comes to monologues.

@cugamer8862

4 жыл бұрын

And the two of them together, man the interplay that Andres and Peter created with those characters. Just amazing to watch them perform.

This is what made B5 great. Storytelling. Nowadays, we think the flashiest movies with the best effects and young, beautiful actors are the key to success. The art of beautiful storytelling has been slowly buried under the false splendor of big budgets.

@ZackExplorer28

7 жыл бұрын

amen to that.

@mumhustler

7 жыл бұрын

Some of the Netflix originals stuff can be pretty good still, HBO on occasion too, when they arent trying to just grab viewers with celeb guests as you suggest. But yeah, story telling as a TV art is dying - its successor is "entertainment".

@beaney56

6 жыл бұрын

Brandon Berryhill that was a perfect comment. I love a good story. Thats why i listen to audiobooks. I cant remember the last series or movie that had a truly gripping emotional story. B5 did this so well. It did not assume it's viewers were idiots and gave us deep story lines, let us grow to love and hate characters before proceeding. I miss this with modern viewing.

@JF-tt6wy

6 жыл бұрын

When this first aired I had only just started watching the show. So it was really my first introduction to the whole Earth Minbari war. This is the scene that made me fall in love with the series. I was hooked for life after this.

@podemosurss8316

6 жыл бұрын

Brandon Berryhill And characters. The characters are very well made.

This speech has moved me for over 20 years

Londo: What do you want? Kid: Tell us a story! Londo: You did better with that question than I did.

@donaldpaluga

4 жыл бұрын

The kid didn't do as good as Vir did

@ettibbet5493

2 жыл бұрын

The best part was he asked whatever they wanted while in the shadows, and when he asked who they are he was in the light

"But in the end, they ran out of time" And then, the Minbari surrendered, and Humans went "Waaa??!!"

@robinchwan

5 жыл бұрын

mimbari : psyche, t'was only a joke

@refulgent_fanta

4 жыл бұрын

I always thought that surrendering over "humans have Minbari souls" was just a pretext. Even their military guild didn't want the war anymore and they were all looking for a reason to stop, that all the castes will accept.

@kimmccarthy7747

4 жыл бұрын

But then they never tell the reason to everyone, so no one anywhere knew what was going on, and that just made more trouble.

@alfredkugler3043

4 жыл бұрын

@@refulgent_fanta They found out that the very human they brought on board to examine would become the holy leader of the Mimbari in his future and their past. Hard to fight on if you doom your whole species by doing so.

@Anarchist86ed

4 жыл бұрын

@@alfredkugler3043 They also would have been doomed without Babylon 4 and its technology. So, they would have ceased to exist a thousand years before without Humanity.

This is a script writing at it's best, managing both to the stir the heart and break it at the same time. That one scene of the Corvette and Starfuries going up against impossible odds brings a tear to the ol' eye.

Absolutely thee best scifi story ever to be told. Sadly all great stories have to end and this one must never be forgotten. Amazing and simply the best. I cannot praise this series enough and I salute you Mr Straczynski.

@andrewthorne3570

6 жыл бұрын

great shame that the networks told JMS that the 4th season was going to be the last so he had to condense two seasons worth of stories in to one. Imagine the Shadow war over a whole season THEN a season's worth of the earth-civil war. Then the networks decided to give him the last season WHILE making the condensed forth season so he had to write a lot of stuff that he hadn't planned on

@stephenbyrne2897

6 жыл бұрын

Tony Bootlegger Amen to that.

@asahutchinsonsuckslittledi1056

2 жыл бұрын

All the Star Trek heads keep saying that Babylon fire was ripped off of Star Trek whatever dude Star Trek is it his own Universe Babylon 5 is nothing like Star Trek ever B5 is its own separate category

@theyaden

2 жыл бұрын

@@asahutchinsonsuckslittledi1056 They just think that because Deep Space 9 was a ripoof of the writing of Babylon 5 that was offered to them and rejected as not fitting the Star Trek universe.

@Kupcho58

Жыл бұрын

@@asahutchinsonsuckslittledi1056 - ....but...they both happened in SPACE, and everyone knows that Star Trek owns SPACE dramadies. Truly...no comparison. Best scifi story ever told on TV.

One of the most amazing scenes in the history of television Peter Jurasik's performance as Londo Mollari was phenomenal

this scene always brings me to tears.

Fav scene in the movie. You get so much from the music and the speech. Perfection

Humanity fuck Yeah! Every fucking time i am moved to tears by londos speech :)

@mho...

8 жыл бұрын

+Au Nick then you have to read the Technomage & Legions of fire Trilogys! londo is the most tragig figure i ever read or heared about!

@romanza21

8 жыл бұрын

+Au Nick Humans portrayed in virtually every alien invasion or horror genre have always refused to be under control by another race or malevolent entity. Just pop in any movie, play any game or open any book, and there's the proof. You never hear about Earth being occupied for 50 years without some nasty rebellion going on. Sci-fi author David Webber posits a theory as to why we always come out on top or die fighting to extinction, in the novel "Out of the Dark." Other alien races conquered in that story have a 'submissive mechanism' that may be inherent in their evolution but not in humans. Therefore, that's why there would be revolts on Earth every few generations. They can't roll over on their bellies for hundreds of years to their masters. That's not human nature. Another good story was "Lilith's Brood" by Octavia Butler. Earth taken over by a benevolent alien race who wanted to produce new offspring, but some humans fought to the bitter end and ended up kidnapping some hybrids because the aliens wouldn't let them have pure human children. Again, another sign of the non- submissive mechanism ingrained in human nature. I think it also stems from our need to control everything. Not even other animals do this as much as us. And if we're obsessed with being in control all the time, there's no way some aliens or monsters are going to keep us under their boots (or foots) for very long. The only way they'd truly win is if they either wiped out humanity or used mind-control. Threatening may work for awhile, but it doesn't last long. Okay, I'll stop this rant. It's quite an interesting subject :)

@Zamolxes77

8 жыл бұрын

"Nice shark. Pretty shark. We were some pretty good sharks once."

@jdlech

7 жыл бұрын

"You can't negotiate with the Centauri, it's like trying to play nice with a piranha"

agree......Mollari was a terrific character really brought to life by Jurasik. As a humorous aside....there is a frozen dessert in the grocery store called "Frutari"......whenever I see it, I pronounce it like Mollari....my son and I laugh every time.....never gets old.

@nylatenite6634

5 жыл бұрын

In the old days, the Frutari the bakers made could bring a the fiercest warrior to tears and make the blind see again, such was the deliciousness of the Centauri Empire!

B5 "speeches" often move me to tears, so thus this one. My compliments to J. Michael Straczynski and ofcourse Peter Jurasik!

One of the most moving scenes in all of science fiction. Along with Sheridan leaving Delenn for the last time. And Star Trek DS9 The Visitor. Thank you Babylon 5, people behind the scenes and the superb actors.

It's a shame that so many of the actors have passed. A movie for the 25th Anniversary would have been cool, all the main characters attending the formation of a galactic council.

@Bitchslapper316

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it is a shame

One of the best speeches with video montage ever on tv. Truly was a great story. I hope the new reboot displays half as much courage a forethought that this did.

The war really did a number on the Minbari Warrior Caste. They faced an enemy that was physically and technologically inferior to them, yet equal in terms of fighting spirit and tenacity. The Minbari surrender must have caused insane divisions in their society.

I've been looking for this scene for YEARS!

Uhg, B5 is so damn good...

One of the best monologues from ANY show; much less this one. G'Kar on leaving too soon; Delen telling the EA to be somewhere else; anything from Garabaldi... But what Londo said about humanity was articulated in a similar way by President Teddy Roosevelt in 1910: It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat. ∼ Excerpt from Theodore Roosevelt’s speech “Citizenship In A Republic”

The actor Peter Jurasik is 72 years old and and is still strong 👑👑🔥🔥

One of the best sci-fi shows ever. Amazing story telling and excellent characters acting brilliantly.

Never gets any less incredible, no matter how many times you see it. I wish us humans would remember how wonderful we can be, when the moment comes.

2 years is pretty damned good fight considering EarthForce was a fraction of the strength it would be just 10 years later.

@Bitchslapper316

3 жыл бұрын

According to some reporter and a senator. Sheridan replied and told her that earth force never fully recovered from the war and anyone that thinks they are ready to wage war with a race like the Minbari or even the Centauri are lying to themselves.

I hear you Londo. I'm from San Francisco and I cannot imagine my life without my Embarcadero, my Ferry Building and my Peninsula.

Quote 1) Sheridan knew that it was standard Minbari doctrine to ignore all surrender pleas and destroy all Earth vessels without mercy, regardless of any damage the Earth vessels may have sustained. Quite 2) In the decade following the Black Star 's destruction, many Minbari - especially within the warrior caste - harbored a strong dislike of Sheridan, and called him the "Starkiller" because he destroyed the Black Star in a sneak attack (which they considered a dishonorable act). That's why I was never fond of the Minbari: disgusting, cowardish hypocrites. Long live the Centauri and Narn.

@zachrich7359

8 жыл бұрын

+bluerisk Especially since the Blackstar performed a sneak attack on Sheridan's battlegroup when it jumped in the middle of their group...

@singletona082

8 жыл бұрын

+bluerisk yet harbor hate for humanity who essentially were all forced on the defensive against enemies who out-technology'd them, out muscled them, and out supplied us on every front to the point it'd be like if we went to war with...oh I dunno... zimbabwe. The spirit is there yes, but we were so horribly outclassed and we knew it was a war of extermination on their part.

@alexdavies7988

8 жыл бұрын

+Zach Rich you might argue that it wasn't a cowardly attack as the black star charged right into their formation in a head on assault surrounded by their enemies

@s-094cam5

6 жыл бұрын

Except the Minbari attack was just as sneaky, drawing the EA fleet into a pre-determined location then jumping into the middle of them.

@robertgibson6687

5 жыл бұрын

And here we see the eternal debate over whether the use of guile counts as cowardice. The Mimbari used guile to draw the Humans into an ambush, and later in the same battle, Sheridan responds with a cunning trick of his own. The Mimbari, having lost an otherwise slam dunk, cry foul. And so the wheel of hypocrisy turns ever on.....

The Bard himself would be impressed at the tragedy that was Londo Mollari.

When this first came out I recorded this TV Movie on VHS and replayed this scene many times. Thank you for posting this!

Babylon5 was one of the most amazing shows to ever be done . it was like A opera .the storyline was absolutely fantastic.

No movie has ever moved me to tears with awe. But this, this scene makes me tear up every time i watch it. It gives me shivers, it makes my heart beat faster, and it gives me a strange pride to be human. Yeah i know it's a scifi show but Babylon 5 has always captured reality like nothing else on TV or in the cinema. So amazingly executed. No show has ever been like Babylon 5 and so far no show has been up to snuff. It is doubtful that a TV-series ever will.

Peter Jurasik voice is magical, like so many others to grace our screen in Babylon 5. A credit to acting and only made greater by some of the greatest scripts in science fiction. Science fiction at it's greatest.

Peter Jurasik's delivery and the way it goes against the short montage is truly one of the seris' finest moments.

This is one of my favorite scenes in all of Babylon 5. And the music that starts at around the 1:00 mark is the perfect backdrop for Londo's lamenting the downfall of Centauri Prime.

It's a nice take on the Spartans at Thermopylae, when their spears broke, they went in with their swords, when their sword and shields were broken they went in with their bare hands and even teeth

@KristerAndersson-nc8zo

8 жыл бұрын

+Blood Raven Yes they did and honours to them, but apparently we did not change our military tactics one bit.

@JimbobHarrigan1984

8 жыл бұрын

Krister Andersson in every fleet on fleet line up, Earthforce was no match for the Minbari cruisers and yet Earth still fought the Minbari right to the bitter end, the ground fighting must've been even more brutal

@KristerAndersson-nc8zo

8 жыл бұрын

Blood Raven Yes the ground fighting, I Think there could the humans excel.

@JimbobHarrigan1984

8 жыл бұрын

Krister Andersson It may have equalised the odds on the ground

@whitelabrat

8 жыл бұрын

+Blood Raven I doubt it. The warrior caste were experts in all fighting. I doubt humans had much chance.

Indeed, but look at his face when they used massdrivers on Narn, he is the ultimate despairing hero. This is acting on the highest level because it affects you so.

I like to think that Mollari did go out with dignity. No spoilers here but I will say that I think he died for the right reasons.

@BNOBLE981

6 жыл бұрын

Londo kinda spoils his own death throughout the series, at least the method of his death and by who's hands, he meets his end.

@singletona082

5 жыл бұрын

He dies on his own terms trying to do the right thing.

@toatahu2003

5 жыл бұрын

We knew from the first episode HOW he would die, but we never saw WHY he died coming...

@samitapio8774

5 жыл бұрын

"Died for the right reasons" That made me to think Sebastian "Jack the ripper" in season 2 and hes speech for delenn and sheridan about the chosen ones: "How do you know the chosen ones? No greater love hath a man than he lay his life for his brother. Not for millions, not for glory, Not for fame... for one person, in the dark where no one will ever know or see. I have been in the service of the vorlons for centuries, looking for you. Diogenes with his lamp, looking for a honest man willing to die for all the wrong reasons" What an great episode that was... and Wayne Alexander was the biggest star in it... Brilliant acting.

@reginal.898

5 жыл бұрын

@@toatahu2003 Right you are. We all, including Londo himself, thought we knew how it would happen. Boy, did we only know half of it! B5 loved to do that, take our expectations and turn them on their heads.

Reminds. E of Churchill’s we will fight on the beaches speech.

After all the years my lip still quivers, when I watch this scene. Beautiful storytelling, brilliant performance.

A true masterpiece of epic television.

When you know you're going to die anyways... Would you rather go out fighting or just let it happen? I personally would fight if i knew it would be the end because atleast then i tried my Damnest!

@StormWolfJachinDue

7 жыл бұрын

Me too. If everything I knew and loved was at risk. i'd hope I'd fight to defend it.

@alexdavis-mann8513

7 жыл бұрын

i think thats his point, that's what the difference between the alien races and humans

@TheGoodLuc

7 жыл бұрын

Fight! Even if you know that the defeat is guaranteed. Depending on situation, of course.

@Gezoes

7 жыл бұрын

The right answer being what Londo said ofcourse. "I only hope, when it is my time, I may die with half as much dignity." It sounds brave, but you never know until it happens.

@grayscribe2125

7 жыл бұрын

Think about it when he is saying this. Remember what happened about an hour later. And he knew what would happen, because he had planned it that way.

To reaffirm what I said, here's what Delenn said about humans to the Grey Council: "They are better than they think and nobler than they know. They carry within them the capacity to walk among the stars like giants." "They are the future, and we have much to learn from them." Humans have been instrumental in galactic affairs during the 2250s and beyond of the B5 universe.

This is still one of the most emotional scenes in any Sci-Fi I have ever seen. All the elements coming together to make a perfect moment.

It truly is one of the most chilling things I've seen in Sci Fi. There was never any contest. Humanity didn't stand a chance against the might of the Minbari. It was hopeless from the very beginning, but there was no choice. The Minbari wouldn't accept a surrender. Just imagine knowing there is an unstoppable race of aliens heading for you and they were going to kill you and there was literally no way to stop it.

I must have watched this scene a hundred times, and still it brings me close to tears.

I come back this ever couple of years to just remember good story telling.

One of my favorite scene from the entire Babylon 5 saga. Thanks for uploading this video.

Such a shame this show had missed the HD new wave... i hope they make it on bluray!

Even after close to 15 years since this aired, it remains one of the most (if not the most) memorable scenes I have ever seen. The dialogue, cinematography, and music are blended together so seamlessly that it still gives me chills today. B5 had to be one of the most compelling stories to come out of 90's TV. P.S. Anyone know the name and composer of the music? I have been trying to find it for years.

watching this still brings a tear in my eye as now as then.

The wailing bagpipe horns that come in at 0:59 are absolutely chilling. Those combined with Peter Jurasik's gravitas....goosebumps every time.

"Never surrender, never give up"

Only after the Minbari focused a high powered scanning beam on their ships which disabled some of their systems. It was reasonable for them to assume they were under attack and that the Minbari were trying to disable their ships using some unknown technology. The Minbari also had their weapon ports open which appeared to be in attack position. There is a reason that Naval tradition is no longer practiced, it easily invites misunderstandings. And the Minbari refused all peace offers after that

the music, scene, script and acting in this segment is so spot on it moves me every time I see it.

stirring words along with music that brings forth great emotion, this is among the deepest striking moments in the series' run.

Yes, that's true. However, at the time he did it, he never realized that he HAD sold his soul to the devil. Even before Centauri Prime was razed, he tried to redeem himself and atone for his sins. The look of horror on his face aboard the Centauri warships as they unleashed the mass drivers on the Narn homeworld spoke volumes. He only wanted Centauri Prime to be strong again. I don't think he wanted the atrocities the Shadows brought.

@podemosurss8316

6 жыл бұрын

He realized when he saw the bombardment of Narn.

@kimmccarthy7747

4 жыл бұрын

I think he would have died happily in the garden if that had turned out to be the only way to save his planet from the Vorlons. When one considers what all happened to him, his planet, and the planets his planet affected, maybe the Vorlons should have killed him before leaving. Even though that would have really hurt me to watch.

@josephamendolea3431

4 жыл бұрын

@@kimmccarthy7747 not to mention he would've been reunited with his lovely lady Adira....if I had a lovely lady like that waiting on me I wouldn't want to keep her waiting :)

@armymatt83 Centauri Prime is burning because the Drakh detonated hidden bombs in the capital. As this scene is playing, Vir Cotto and his allies are doing what they can to help and to drive the Drakh off Centauri Prime for good.

One of the few times I've watched a sci-fi movie and felt proud of the humans. They screwed up yes, but so did the Minbarri. And though it was hopeless they kept fighting for hope.

I still weep every time I watch this.

The way Londo speaks here, about human courage and nobility against overwhelming odds, makes me think of Ukraine and its current situation.

Yup, Humans in a nutshell.

One of my favourites. X

I love this scene, and so cool how it fits in with the overall Babylon 5 arc.

I dunno know why that guy is so suprise at humans fighting back. Sure some people will fall down cry and die but like any animal thats back into a corner and knows its screwed it will bite back and be 10x more fierce it normally would

@zachrich7359

8 жыл бұрын

+Lucas Varne In the B5 universe, humanity is the exception. Most races would collapse under such pressure that the minbarii were applying to the EA. Which is why Londo said "when other races would give in to despair..."

@override367

8 жыл бұрын

Right, their governments would fall to panic and riots and everyone who could get a ship would take off, fleets would abandon defense of civilians and turn to piracy in alien systems or go mercenary, their cohesion would break down. Humans are exceptional in B5 that when faced with overwhelming crisis they become more unified

@Rodshark75

4 жыл бұрын

@@override367 Which is what makes it utter science fiction and definitely not reality.

My top 3: Farscape Star Trek: TNG Babylon 5

@narreddarr8092

9 жыл бұрын

BlazeKing416 mine are Babylon 5 because of the unusual creatures [w ST every species is human a squiggle inbetween the eyes or on the face apart from rare exceptions]; Farscape for same reasons as above. Red Dwarf... cos in space... no-one can hear you laugh

@0megacron

5 жыл бұрын

That's a good Top 3, but you oughta make it a Top 5 so you can throw Firefly in there. Maybe Stargate SG-1 to round it out?

@Grundini91

5 жыл бұрын

Farscape, Bablyon 5, Star Trek: DS9. No particular order.

@kb1flr

5 жыл бұрын

I would say: The new Battlestar Gallactica B5 Firefly

I once had the novelization of this movie. Londo's speech about humanity was (seemingly impossibly) more epic in his regards about humanity in their "final days." The additional line that always stuck with me the most was when he described a squadron of Starfuries being gunned down until only one pilot remained. Londo related that instead of retreating to live another day, the pilot would continue to fly and fight as if the very souls of his comrades were still at his wings.

Jedna od najboljih serija u žanru naučne fantastike. Šteta što nema više takvih serija.

the problem with this is that apparently they have forgotten the military thinkers like Tsun Tsu, Gustaf II, Napoleon, Von Clausewitz, Von Moltke, Patton, Rommel and so on.

@whitelabrat

8 жыл бұрын

+Krister Andersson Their tactics work only when you face an enemy who does no possess all the firepower they need to win and no compunction over committing genocide. Think of it like this. On earth we have a compunction about genocide. If we did not there are several nations that could turn their enemies into sheets of glass in a matter of minutes... US, China, Russia... they all have that ability. The Minbari essentially took the nuclear option and Earth had not defense and no offense that could remotely match that. It is not a balance like it is on Earth... it is a completely 1 sided option. Where do you hide from that? Retreat where? How do you flank something that can reach you everywhere you go and can't be stopped? It's like flanking a Tsunami with heavy infantry. How do you disappear into a population for hit and run work when you can't hit them and you can't run and they are killing the whole population not just looking for military targets? Some form of even ground is required to use tactics even if it is weighted heavily against you. If you have no strategic option of victory at all tactics are moot.

@juliahenriques210

8 жыл бұрын

+Krister Andersson I don't know if you remember it well, but the greatest problems the humans faced were not being able to lock their targeting systems onto Minbari ships and the Minbari simply having overpowered ships. Minbari ground equipment is never shown, but we must assume it was equally superior. Even in hand to hand the Minbari physique is sturdier on average. It was never a contest. After the Black Star, at request of the admiralty Sheridan advises the troops to be creative and think out of the box to defeat the Minbari, but confesses in private that the odds are unsurmountable. And he is supposed to be the human tactical genius of his time, John Nukem Sheridan, the guy who found a way out of the Shadow war.

@gatedude07

7 жыл бұрын

Consider that the Minbarri are roughly 1,000 years ahead of Earth. That would be the equivalent of ancient Greece taking on the modern United States. I don't care how good the Spartans were as warriors, a single (albeit large) airstrike would wipe out their entire army at Thermopylae.

@KristerAndersson-nc8zo

7 жыл бұрын

gatedude07 and yet the Minabaris had problems, Sheridan taking out their flagship for instance.

@whitelabrat

7 жыл бұрын

Krister Andersson It was considered largely luck with a healthy helping of over confidence on the part of the Black Star. And that was the only victory of the war. It's strategic impact was almost zero. It appears every other fight was an overwhelming loss for Earth.

This is a show you just cant reboot.

Magnificent actor. Magnificent story!

The music is so beautiful...

I love Star Trek but DS9 aint got nothing on Babylon 5!

@kamenwaticlients

5 жыл бұрын

I tend to see them as being very different from each other. I also like to think Sheridan and Sisko of been great friends and brothers in arms.

@rhondahall3341

5 жыл бұрын

@@kamenwaticlients I would've love seen a crossover of the 2 shows, Liked to seen how Ambassador G Kar , And Commander Worf , Would've gotten along , I think The Narn and Klingons would've become great formidable allies , Their cultures are similar, They have a society based on honor , They have a Teacher they have high regard and respect for , Narn -Book of G'quan And eventually Ambassador G kar own Book of wisdom Book of G kar, The Klingons - Kahless The Unforgettable, Would've been an epic story, With the right talented writers and directors !☺

@JustinStrife

5 жыл бұрын

Who cares. Both are great shows. And it was a great time for sci-fi.

I have family in Ukraine and every day my mind is drawn back to this scene, JMS was so prescient!

1:00 The tears begin with the sounding of the pipes...

1:55. "I have a rendezvous with death, and I will not fail that rendezvous."

This is how humanity likes to view itself; but the nature of our society, and the very fact of its' existence, demonstrates that the truth is the opposite.

@WarSmurfs

10 жыл бұрын

O really ? Suicide bombers are a good example of the desperation shown in how the humans end up combating the Membari in our real world. I think it's pretty accurate on the human spirit, despite every challenged thrown against us, not matter how impossible it looks, most of us would still try.

@charlesw5919

10 жыл бұрын

The scene romanticized it of course, but looking at human history, the "if I'm going down I'll take a few of you bastards with me" sentiment can be found in all cultures,. Regardless how far apart they in most things, humans tend to be at their most dangerous when they have nothing left to lose.

@Canaris3

10 жыл бұрын

What the fuck are you talking about ?? Very existence of Mankind SHOW that determination will always overcome any obstacle. Our ancestors had sticks and rocks against claws, muscles, stealth movement and fangs of predators and yet we tamed them, hunted some of them to extinction and became dominant species on Earth. We endured wars, tyranny, dictators, madmen and rest of this and we are still here. If that's not a determination i dont know what is..

@ameier5570

9 жыл бұрын

As Sun Zu wrothe: "Never surround a enemy with no chance to escape, then no one fights harder than somone that has nothing to loose"

@DevSolar

9 жыл бұрын

Canaris3 Unfortunately, determination is easiest roused in the more... extreme mindsets. Fortunately, determination does NOT always overcome any obstacles. Wouldn't you agree that it's fortunate that those who steered planes into their targets in the last 100 years or so didn't get it their way? Or those who swore to "my honor is loyalty" and wore skulls as emblems?

Tbf, they tried very hard to surrender.

@mreboric8406

10 жыл бұрын

At first yes but after the realization that the Minbari considered it a holy war of extermination and planed to kill every last human they could find Earth sacrificed everything they had to hold them back for as long as possible to save as many lives as possible. it was really only the guidance/interference of two Vorlon (spelling) that saved the human race from annihilation.

@randombencounter263

10 жыл бұрын

Or to put it simple, everybody can be brave in the face of an enemy who kill indescriminately whether you fight back or not.

@Endoptic

9 жыл бұрын

Ben Kielar Well, some functionally extinct races in the series had scattered themselves under less overwhelming or focused efforts. I think that's what Londo was admiring. The humans compressed under stress instead.

@FieldMarshalFry

9 жыл бұрын

James Clark I thought it was becasue the Grey Council discovered humans and Minbari were related, and Minbari were a lot better at the "ape shall not not kill ape" thing than humans ever were

@Endoptic

9 жыл бұрын

Field Marshal Fry Kosh set that up though, in his usual way. Strangely being that Sinclair became Valen and personally knew both Kosh and Ulkesh during the last Shadow war, we had a perfectly intelligible reason for Kosh to've managed that seeming bit of precognition for once. "The truth points to itself." still took a bloody long time to completely reveal it's full meaning. Want to stop the war? Just point a triluminary at Valen himself, who's incidentally is about to fly into your bridge, and watch the Council freak...

I've watched a lot of sci-fi in my lifetime, and I continue to do so to this day, and this scene stands out like no other. The rich development of Londo's complex character, the unequalled storytelling, and the music... Especially this track. In another 30 years, I'll still be in awe of this moment in BY history. Amazing is insufficient a word.

This brings tears to my eyes. This is what it means to be human. We never give up even in the face of our own deaths. We never give up...

why was centari prime still burning after the alliance attack

@weldonwin

7 жыл бұрын

I figured it was ongoing anarchy, with lawlessness and maybe even civil war in the streets

@singletona082

7 жыл бұрын

The Drhak Keepers manipulating the Centauri to keep them occupied by their own concerns.

@slitor

7 жыл бұрын

Good question and good answers.

@buckrowley1506

6 жыл бұрын

the plasma conduits

@podemosurss8316

6 жыл бұрын

They couldn't repair due to the war debts.

always brings a tear to my eye, reminds me of the British holding out alone against the nazis for 2 years.

@edwardmyers8782

6 жыл бұрын

Alex Morgan you do understand that the British empire was basically the largest country on earth

@edwardmyers8782

6 жыл бұрын

Also Churchill attacked Berlin using an accidental bumping of London knowing that the Germans would bomb London and save RAF air fields he basically bombed civilians to cause Germany to bomb civilians.to justify the bombing of civilians. Fuck

@GoranXII

6 жыл бұрын

The Nazis had already bombed Rotterdam and other cities on the continent when they advanced, so although the British might have started that spat, the Germans already had blood on their hands there.

@sirignatio

6 жыл бұрын

British are always the conquerors

@GoranXII

6 жыл бұрын

Naf off. The British were no worse, and occasionally better than any of the other colonial powers. The British sorted Malaya out on their own, which the French and Americans _both_ screwed up Vietnam.

A moving scene and Londo Mollari said it magnificently. Brought a tear to my eye listening to it! Peter Jurasik take a bow!

This scene from the pilot movie was built into the story way later. Babylon5 had an immense story telling and one of the best character developements ever seen in a sci-fi show.

“Don’t push the Pink Skins to the thin ice.”

Ukraine right now

@seanmanscott

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

@mattep74

2 жыл бұрын

Battle of the line is battles of charkiv and kiev

@icarusearthbound

2 жыл бұрын

Dude I came here for that reason

truly truly a great scene...

I saw this movie before I saw the series. I got hooked immediately and never regretted watching the show. I love the music of this scene so much.