Lola T70 replica vs McLaren MP4-12C: the ultimate production and kit cars
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If you're going to take inspiration from a race car, you may as well borrow from the Lola T70 -- the world's fastest race car in 1966. But can the GD T70 Spyder beat a McLaren 12C?
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Built by Lola, raced in the Can-Am championship by John Surtees, the Lola T70 is one of the most beautiful race cars ever made. So it was a good point to start when Gardner Douglas began development of its T70 Spyder. It weighs just 900kg, but develops up to 700bhp from a range of GM V8 engines. But can it outhandle one of the world's most able series production supercars, the McLaren MP4-12C? Steve Sutcliffe takes to the track to find out.
Thanks to Steve Hole at www.totalkitcar.com
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Tweak that 'Vette engine to run closer to its full potential of around 650-700hp. Hook it up to a properly ratioed Hewland gearbox, have the chassis bump-steered and set up by a competent chassis shop. That Lola will make that McLaren cry like a baby as it gets so left behind.
Fantastic review and a tribute to the hardworking people in the kitcar industry. Thank you!
Gad! I remember the original Lola T-70 from my slot car days of 50 years ago. It was hot back then, and to see a streetable version of it now ... well, it's pretty hard to wipe the grin off my face! Nice report!
90k for a kit car and the speedo doesn't work? Nit picking aside the T70 is one of my favourite cars and it's really nice to see it on a review like this. Many thanks.
@powersliding
10 жыл бұрын
wonder if the mclarens speedo works after back to back complaints and updates
@hunghuge7717
10 жыл бұрын
Touche. :o)
According to his posted specs the torque is actually about the same 420 vs 442. Just looking at the power to weight that thing must be a whole lot faster in a straight line. The purist car is always the the more rewarding car in my opinion.
Big thanks to autocar for bringing out something different. Me likes
What a fabulous car!
As soon as i see Steve Sutcliffe's name in the description, i know the video will be great!
The production car is fifty times more sophisticated, and most things work. No great surprise there... What was it about a high end sports car in the late '60s / early '70s, that made them SO INCREDIBLY EXCITING? Cars like the the Ford GT40 and the 917 and this, the early (racing) mid engine Ferraris... They were a high water mark of just how much fun a machine can be. 50 years later, they still are! Not many things made today are even close to that exhilarating.
I would like to see more of that GD, lovely in every respect.
I was hoping to see a hot lap in that kit car
Always enjoy Steve's reviews
Well it certainly sounds like a Lola should, fantastic.
I like a lot of feel through the rim too
@3:45 Instant balding XD JK, we know it was just a shot that had to be placed. great work. loving seeing these different Lola replicas. However, when the job is done as well as I've seen these and others, I like to call them 'revisions'. Good job lads and all the production team involved, keep cranking out the amazing content; hundreds of manhours well invested.
Great looking car. Is the speedo broken?
Thank you very much for featuring such a rare car (the Lola).
How would the Ariel Atom compare to this Lola T70? I'd be curious to see.
I would like to know if autocar magazine is going to be turning up at the 2014 autosport international show?if someone could tell me.
Is that speedometer broken?
Steve says it all at 5:40
Looks like a cross between a Lotus Elise and a Ford GT40
Nice video! On Lola to bad ergonomy!!!
Should show the Ultima GTR too!
Why is the big clock on the right not moving? isnt that speed?
@MagicAyrtonforever
10 жыл бұрын
Speedo, probably that cable hanging down underneath lol!
@faceevil
10 жыл бұрын
It is definitely some important gauge and I think too that it is not working.
another mclaren 12C video??
God, that Lotus looks fantastic. I think I'd rather the Lister Bell Stratos you drove the other week, though.
@Fertro
10 жыл бұрын
I pressed "Post" about a second before Steve booted the T70. My GOD that thing sounds brutal. I want the T70 now.
Great cars!
@TV-yb6yp
10 жыл бұрын
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@jimmycocks2267
10 жыл бұрын
vellikin valera no we will not,
This car with a 3 or even 4 rotor would weigh even less and make crazy power all motor!!!
I wish someone would bring back Manta Cars. We need more classic Can-Am replicas.
@hunghuge7717
10 жыл бұрын
Ultima still do the Can-Am.
@TheBRUTALBRANDON
10 жыл бұрын
hung huge He's talking about the Can Am racing series not the Ultima, Google it.
Actually I would spend more time around the 12-C if I saw both up close. Sorry :p
"Lola didn't really make any spyders" -You got it all wrong. 1) Lola did made a spyders. 2) You tested T70 Moda, not Spyder.
Was I the only one waiting for a drag race at the end??
Yet again, you can tell that he's smitten with the Lola and that actually, in comparison, the over complicated, uninvolving McLaren has (like soooo many other modern over complicated cars) lost it's appeal and the true meaning of what a real drivers car should be like.
at 2:05 is the speedometer is Dead...0Mph...=.=
And??? Which one is faster on the track?
@Malc180s
10 жыл бұрын
You're face.
@JonasRosenven
10 жыл бұрын
Malc180s "You are face"? What is that supposed to mean?
@RemyRaju
10 жыл бұрын
Jonas Rosenven Face from A-Team perhaps :P
I don't care I want to see a drag race. .lol
I love Chevy LS engines!!
There's no way the max torque holds up to max power rpm 5:21. Because calculating power at 7000 results in 590 so there are more revs for max PWR In fact the max power is at 7500rpm. at 3000 rpm is 252 bhp at 4000 rpm is 336 bhp at 5000 rpm is 421 bhp at 6000 rpm is 505 bhp That's why it works better at high rpm. The formula is easy Torque X rpm / 5260 = bhp
Oh a kit car with a corvette engine...how original.
Seems like an odd engine/gearbox combination.
that LOLA car really is a copy Jaguar D-type and C-type
6:41 - What is that leaking out a tube!?
@VolV8
10 жыл бұрын
Nice spot. Maybe that accounts for no lap times or drag races? lol
@midasracer
10 жыл бұрын
My guess is that in the right hand corner the vent line of the fuel tank gets flooded and dumps the fuel. I had a similar problem on my kitcar when I once used it on a race track and was black flagged for it. Easily rectified though with a Mocal vent valve.
creme of kit cars?? sorry the ultima GTR takes that title in performance terms at least.
Front shock damping was way off.
Where's the drag race?
I love all sorts of cars, old, new, big, small, it doesnt matter.. but this one just doesnt give me anything... :/
Seems that the speedometer doesn't works, nice car anyway.
Did he say craptastic?
the lola just looks better
@patmorales2459
5 жыл бұрын
Real cars have round headlights and look far better
You say Lola never built spyders, WTF do you call the Can Am T70s and on? Yeah if you look it up they are called spyders.
im bored seeing them reviewing cars against the 12C again and again...
There is an E in PorschE...
It IS a Lola T70.
So... the Lola T70 is pretty much like the Henessey venom... pretty much a tuned better version.
@saxwastaken
10 жыл бұрын
Not of the venom. just using it as an example
I've never liked the Corvette engine, but when he is just driving talking it sounds like a tractor. And the speedo wasn't working either aha
@timbaker4327
5 жыл бұрын
Well that shows two things;you dont know jack about engines and you sir are a moron.
@marcellodellalonga538
5 жыл бұрын
Engine sounds over KZread are lost. Camera + digital wind filter or smartphone -> codec compression -> KZread recompression....
@MickH60
9 ай бұрын
@@marcellodellalonga538 As a Musician you are 100% correct, youtube compresses the bsh1t out of everything...
MP4 12C is a far better car overall and better for real world driving
@MickH60
9 ай бұрын
Soulless...
all you thrashing the replica, yea its not as nice everyday but the replica is much more involving to drive, it probably is slower round the track, not close as nice to drive everyday but it isnt build for that either, its build to get all your senses involved, to scare you, to make you a better driver, this car is nothing for an amateur, where the mclaren anyone can drive.
Shame how it doesn't sound great. Sounds like a 1 litre Fiesta from the 80s.
12c
The speedo in the Lola isn´t working.
Kit car vs kit car?
What on earth do you mean "Lola didn't really make any Spyders" ? Yes they did. It started life as a Spyder in 1965 and was the go-to sports car in 1966, usually fitted with a 5.7 litre Chevvy or a 4.7 Ford V8. It was common throughout Europe and the US. It became the MK3 coupé in 1967 when FIA changed the regs. So it is a replica and visually not a very good one. It has a chin spoiler the T70 never had, a tall road windscreen and a teardrop Targa rear screen. It's proportions look all wrong. That being said, it's a bargain but nothing like a T70.
Give me the mclaren! You can keep that kitcar...
Oh lo lA
LS engine doesn't rev a lot !
It's nice, but I'm not sure I believe this presenter. Kinda looks like the McLaren was just waiting to pass the Lola copy.
it looks like a 1st gen Lotus Elise on steroids, the original t70(google it) is much more sexier
£66.000, they must be having a laugh. It doesn`t even look anything like a Lola T70.
@MickH60
9 ай бұрын
Actually, It looks just like a Lola T70 with some additions
Stretch it .,.,. just change the ass ,open it all up and level it out up higher and stretch the nose so it looks like a real one ,. and the wheelbase looks shorter
spedoo doesnt look like it works
Well it isint practical as the speedo didnt work
i would love to have one of those in my garage ,,, replica or not who cares its not for sale i never sell a car i get and like and that turns it expencive coz i get buyers every day that about iriginal and replica is a psicological bussiness thing because when building this cars ether wayreplica or original guess what ? the same money is spent but the fucking word is whats expencive coz thats what rockets the price sky high then the replica goes for 100k and the original goes for half a million dollar lol its just stupid expencive and the idiotic costumer is buying a superexpencive word ORIGINAL jajaja who ever may thinck that some words are superexpencive another word that cost too much is ITS NOT FOR SALE i say that to my costumers every day and make alot of profit lol ,, but that lola race car i would get a replica with no hesitation thats for sure
Shame it sounds like a sewing machine at low revs
That was bloody painful. Waffling on forever trying to justify both cars. Why not a lap time from both cars? I would be genuinely interested to see the difference.
Pull that American lump out of that thing and throw an RS4's V8 or M5's V10 engine in there instead!
@CJM44.41
10 жыл бұрын
Brutal Brandon Ah, a Texan! Reason is out the window! Not even gonna bother.
@TheBRUTALBRANDON
10 жыл бұрын
***** Yes Conner keep your arrogant ass away from Texas, we don't like people full of shit, they don't do well here.
@CJM44.41
10 жыл бұрын
Brutal Brandon At least us "arrogant" people can actually spell properly, even when it's presented right in front of us.
@CJM44.41
10 жыл бұрын
Brutal Brandon Just find your first comment to actually be the arrogant one here. Don't think I said anything negative about the engine in the Lola replica at all, simply made the point that there'd be better engines with much more character to put in such a car, yet you attack me as if I had said something negative about them. Maybe learn to read something more than once and understand it perhaps from another point of view before commenting.
@CJM44.41
10 жыл бұрын
Brutal Brandon Go ahead and try to put words in my mouth, I never said that but think what you will. Like I said, reason is out the window! Not like I have any reason to back pedal at all with my comment, it's bloody KZread.
I feel like the Ultima Evolution would be much more impressive than the GDT70
This looks nothing like a Lola T70....
@Sunedosa
9 жыл бұрын
EVILSPAWN1003 Idd, that looks like crap tbh, the dimensions look all wrong. The Broadley T76 looks a million times better.
speedo doesn't work
if the kit car was that much better of a drivers car why didn;t you post lap times to prove it.
looks nothing like a t70...
Sounds like a clapped out 300hp ls1