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@Matisaro

8 ай бұрын

My headcanon/theory is that incursions are caused because each universe/timeline has it's own gravity/aura which attracts only it's own universe. So when something/someone travels to another universe the pull of "gravity" begins to tug that person/things universe towards the one they travel to. Usually universes are static and never connect until this happens. It also explains why the more someone/something travels there the faster/worse the incursion because the more time/amount of the energy in the incurred upon universe the faster that pull would cause the incursion collision.

@jameslawrence2291

8 ай бұрын

Send 🍜

@frameratee

8 ай бұрын

I might’ve misunderstood what happened but I think victor didn’t turn into spaghetti like how it would happen in the black hole. I interpreted it as what would happen if the strings (from string theory) that form the bases of everything got pulled out, getting kang embedded into each and every multiverse following the Big Bang that’ll happen next. I might be wrong. Cause spaghettification would look a lot different (it would be like atoms equidistant to the core forming a straight line to the centre. That spaghetti would be a string

@ssotkow

8 ай бұрын

Love you Paul, but season trailers are disservices for viewers. Trailers are marketing necessity for studios in order to promote higher viewership. Trailers are useful for increasing profits for studios, at the cost of decreasing viewers' enjoyment for tv shows/films. I'd much rather avoid trailers, yet still tune in to your breakdowns. Would prefer you give trailer warnings. Cheers.

@businessideas1303

8 ай бұрын

I think loki is stuck in time loop and the episode 4 melt down will reset everything back to episode 1 loki time slipping "oroborus" . We got similar hints from loki's promo where Loki said "again" "again" (marvels youtube shorts for tva says samething about time loop) also two to three time slip scenes are missing and in promo he also said what he seen is true then no one can save tva. episode 4 ending where everyone one was asking "what did we do wrong? " and everyone was like "I don't know". I think episode 5 will start the way episode 1 started and but Loki will react differently and will eventually try to identify what went wrong and may be this time the real "Victor timely" will be captured from sacred timeline to fix the loom.

Victor Timely was a way better character than I thought he was gonna be. I loved how funny he was. Considering he’s THE villain of this saga, it was great to see him as kind of a goofball

@jacoboneill2494

8 ай бұрын

Seeing this comment for the third time makes me feel like I'm stuck in a time loop.

@heartrune24

8 ай бұрын

he was the funniest for sure lol

@Michael-fi7nu

8 ай бұрын

I think Victor, like in the comics, is the definitive version of Kang we get in the end. If that’s the route they’re going then it’s pretty genius to show us a characters very beginning and what leads him into becoming the Conqueror.

@patchesPstinkleT

8 ай бұрын

He Who Remains was good but Victor is my favorite Kang variant so far. His love of the hot chocolate machine was sort of sus but also adorable. The scene where he’s talking about his heart and freewill with Sylvie’s sword to his neck was so good.

@The_Ex1Le

7 ай бұрын

Tis the beauty of an infinite amount of variants, even if i disagree that Victor Timely is the big bad, the multiverese gives room for the good, the bad and ugly because no variants going to be the same but fundamentally, kang is cruel but doesn't mean every version will be

Finally we have got something special again from Marvel. No Way Home, Guardians 3 and Loki have easily been the best things in Phase 4 and 5.

@nickvos9145

7 ай бұрын

Agreed

We are watching a snake eat it’s own tail at the end of this episode. Watching the end of the TVA means we are about to see it’s beginnings. It could have been it was Loki who took Mobius, Cassie, and B15 off the timeline originally which also is the time they find themselves in now, and set them on the path that lead them to the TVA. Maybe OB is like Kangs memory. He knows he will lose his memory, or another one of his variants must come into possession of the TVA first for it to end up in his hands, maybe OB is his partner and he wiped his memories of their true friendship to make him a sleeper cell moderator of the TVA. The broken statue at the end of time could even be Loki. Him and OB might have been who the two other time keepers are based on. I also don’t think it’s a coincidence we saw Victor and Mr Fantastic get spaghettified. Could be an Easter egg of their lineage. He could find himself being reassembled in the 31st century with the tech to power his ideas.

@Hassanshahzad055

8 ай бұрын

Man you got a wild theory😮

@jic-z4e

8 ай бұрын

Damn, this is fire 👍🏾

@HighTide_808

8 ай бұрын

🤯

@mattco1103

8 ай бұрын

Whoa

@alexanderdumas-

8 ай бұрын

@@mattco1103time keeps could be based on Kang, Mobius and Loki, since one looks like Kang, one has eyebrows that flare up like Lokis crown, and the other has a mustache much like Möbius’s. It would be incredibly ironic if an inverted Mobius strip is what allowed the avengers to time travel, and Mobius being inverted in time is about to do the same for Loki

The thing that baffles me a little bit is that He Who Remains from season 1 said, "You might hate the dictator but something a lot worse is going to fill that void if you dispose of him." And he also said, "I will just end up right back here anyway." So it is like he *will* definitely come back, but it is going to be a different him when he said, "something a lot worse is going to fill that void." And Miss Minutes said that Victor Timely will never be He Who Remains, and Sylvie talked about hoping that Victor won't turn into He Who Remains or someone worse, and maybe that is how this is going, or is supposed to go, like a variant of He Who Remains *will* inevitably come back, but it will be real deal Kang who is "worse" so to say, because when Loki was time slipping he went to the past TVA where Kang was ruling it first, so Kang is inevitably coming, it's just... all of the things leading up to it. Now, He Who Remains knew everything that happened before, and he knew that Sylive was going to kill him, but in the season 1 finale he talked about not knowing how things were going to play out when the branches started forming, and we are assuming he knew what would happen after, so I believe that He Who Remains did know more than he was letting off, like Kang is Quantumania said that "with time it is hard not to skip to the end," so I think that He Who Remains knows about everything that has happened and that is going to happen, it is just that stuff in the middle that he is unsure about, because he literally *skipped* to the end. Tell me what you all think.

@dogleggedhades0

8 ай бұрын

So yes, Kang the Conqueror is the worse thing that He Who Remains references. He knows this because he lived it. Kang started winning the multiversal war which made he who remains conquer Alioth and wipe the rest of timelines out. He who remains is the good guy between him and Kang. The thing is He Who Remains obsessed over keeping order and ended up making the tva and such. So the best way I can explain this is he who remains is a chess player while Kang is a Fighter (in respect to Kang variants). He said he doesn't know how things are going to play out because free will is being introduced again; but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a plan. He watched over everything that happened over and over again, and his invention was the tva. The tva that needed his signature to override the blast doors. He chose not to even attempt to give miss minutes a body. He chose to leave Renslayer at the tva alone. He hand picked Victor Timely before time ended. He had made calculations to predict what would happen, but couldn't test his idea to he died. Everything about the tva meltdown was directly linked to he who remains, including the oroborus of information Victor Timely got. Victor was a scam artist, his inventions didn't work, and he was easily manipulated by everyone around him. He Who Remains gave everyone a motif to take advantage of the variant he picked that could be pushed into the exact situation that destroyed the tva. With endless timelines, the access to time travel, and the ability to jump timelines, it doesn't really matter when he who remains comes again and it's inevitable that he will. I think he tried to calculate how to create a new string of timelines that would play out exactly how his past did, creating an oroborus of time. He creates all of time by his design and sits upon his throne at the end. He never has any guarantee of the outcome but he chose the pieces most likely to guarantee him the cycle, including the Loki's. I also am not sold on miss minutes having free will. I think she lied and is programmed to ensure things happen as necessary until the tva need to be blown up. Super ironic that both Loki's get this win/win choice of restarting the system and taking miss minutes offline; I think it's built in to take miss minutes off line so she doesn't interfere afterwards.

I kind of think that Victor Timely might be the "prime" or "seed" of all Kang variants. Remember that the device Victor is holding when he is spaghettified is called a "throughput multiplier." If Timely's Temporal aura passes through it, it could multiply and disperse numerous versions of him during the temporal explosion, spawning them with origins being many different time periods. Perhaps explaining why at least one Kang variant is from the 31st century, while Timely is not. (It was stated at least twice that he needed better technology to reach his potential)

I think as hhe was ripped apart his temporal aura has gone across all those millions of timelines creating kangs in all of them and that starts the war which starts the cycle again. Would make sense with quantumania being after these then

@ALX_Fitness91

8 ай бұрын

That would be awesome if that’s the case

@gamerdweebentertainment1616

8 ай бұрын

would make sense otherwise the dude's like from 20th century and somehow ruling multiple timelines whatnot.

@Theckonestroh

8 ай бұрын

Misunderstandings everyone is having is OB never created anything. OB doesn't understand time. Worst part is everyone is forgetting those are actual universes and ppl on that chart. Is this an abstract chart representing a timeline or ppl actually shrunk down into a finite line? This pardox was created to trap the TVA employees while the Kangs decide the fate of the multiverse. Renslayer, Miss Minutes and rest of the TVA employees are nothing ,but puppets to Kang. How many times did Kang whip their memories? What actual multiverse are they from? How old really are they? What version of Miss Minutes is this AI update? What do we actually know about the timeline converging nothing? The spaghetti reference could be your memories showing up to other variants across the multiverse in dreams like Dr. Strange. So we could see hundreds of versions of Loki's remembering his attempts to stop Kang. FUZZY MATH WILL BE COMING SOON!

@itzstorm347

8 ай бұрын

​@ALX_Fitness91 nah the bro victor didn't have a chance to enjoy Hot Cocoa from a machine 😢

@laluwahyupiw

8 ай бұрын

@@itzstorm347saddest thing in the history of television 😥

I think that because Loki's timeline is already pruned, he's going to slip through time again. Meanwhile, because everyone else in the TVA probably still has a timeline, they're going to be sent back to their lives. That's when/where Loki will timeslip to, recruiting them back into a group, getting the band back together!

@alexanderdumas-

8 ай бұрын

That’s a great reason why

@proximashining776

8 ай бұрын

If that's the case, then Sylvie should also be time slipping. Her timeline has been pruned ages ago.

@justsomeguy5426

8 ай бұрын

@@proximashining776she has whr tempad she won't

@proximashining776

8 ай бұрын

Tempads don't work because of Miss Minutes. First because she blocked them and then because OB shut everything down in order to reset her. This should be true even for the special tempad that used to belong to HWR. And if Sylvie had a working tempad, it would be extremely selfish of her to save only herself and leave everyone else there to face what looks like certain death.

@GamerGee

8 ай бұрын

Guardians of the TVA

Be interesting to see a scene at the finale where He Who Remains is playing chess with Miss Minutes and the players on the board are Loki, Sylvie, and the rest.

The fact that most of s2 feels like s1 all over again, AND it's good is wild.

I gotta say that spaggetti scene got me on a huge WTF moment

That was such a culmination of so much of your work. I loved it. Thank you so much!

I think sylvie uses he who remains temp pad at the last second and they get split up like in the umbrella academy. Because they thought that's why loki might have been originally time slipping before. So mobius is on the timeline with no way to get back so he makes a life on the timeline selling jet skis until loki timeslips to him and they have to "get the gang back together" and have a second chance to see what went wrong but when they go to fix it, the other kangs from the council show up like "we got this" and cuts to black (or it pulls kang from the quantum realm and they see he was behind timely being spaghetti)

@ericawillis.

7 ай бұрын

Just want to say that so far I'm about 85% right

Hey man been following you for years. Outside of the Heavy Content (HaHa) it’s a blessing seeing your transition. You your beautiful family. And the fact that you got MT to join bro this is Blessed man. I implore you to keep pushing man. As we can see levels don’t exist when every day has its moments, but you still find time for us out here. Thanks man. I’ll hop on some Tees and other merch. Thanks from the States Richard B. Lewis

@heavyspoilers

8 ай бұрын

Ah thank you so much mate, really means a lot that comment. Hope you have a great weekend and thanks for the love.

LOVE YOU GUYS! THANKS FOR EXPLAINING THIS MCU

I kind of like the idea of Loki presenting himself as the "big bad" in secret wars. Us knowing really he's just trying to protect everything and whatnot and the Avengers not understanding. Thor would trip put at how powerful Loki would have gotten too 😂

THANKS as always, Paul!!! By the way, it's like you and MT were always teamed up!!!

I don't care what happens next. I just want a scene where the two Asgardian brothers unite. Both Thor and Loki need that.

@Eldritch-1

8 ай бұрын

Want to see Loki wield the hammer, he is actually worthy at this point.

@shravanpalambe4086

8 ай бұрын

@@Eldritch-1 in comics he has done tat once ... 🤗

@jaxology276

8 ай бұрын

⁠@@Eldritch-1yep that’s what I typed out on another post. him being able to wield mjolnir isn’t impossible because he has done a lot of good.

@chelsearunyan

8 ай бұрын

Please 🙏 Marvel reunite Thor and Loki. We need these two brothers reunited.

@user-eb1xf1et8o

8 ай бұрын

This is beyond Thor's intellect

Think it makes sense that timely could become a stronger variant of kang … maybe releasing his temporal aura will give him actual powers instead of tech based abilities like the other variants

Loki takes place outside of everything and anything so it covers all Marvel history so it should be the first thing to watch after Endgame.

@heavyspoilers your perspective was the best by far and made alot of sense. Love your channel

@heavyspoilers

8 ай бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

In the movie The One with Jet Lee, he goes around killing his other variants to obtain their life energy and become more powerful. I think he OG Kangs plan, has always been to have others kill his variants so he can rise to the top.

@dolphin8815

8 ай бұрын

// because even if other viarents of himself dies, the laws of energy states it cannot just vanish. It all goes somewhere.

@jshimdabrim

8 ай бұрын

OMG I thought about this same Movie when watching this!!! I’m glad I’m it the only one who knows about it lol

The line that OB learned everything from VT means VT was actually crucial to the TVA at one point in its initial creation.

@darthghost5680

8 ай бұрын

Bro why did this never hit me

The intricacies of plotting and dialogue in Loki verse She Hulk… writers verses…gawd knows. Goes to show it’s not the product, it’s how it’s executed

My theory: O.B. Is the original “He Who Remains”, somewhere along the line Kang found the TVA (it always existed in some form) and possibly allied with it and then took it over with Renslayer and Miss Minutes to win the Multiversal War, Kang then installed the Loom and pruned every branch that had another Kang in it. Now “He Who Remains” realized the cycle with repeat over and over until he installs a new “He Who Remains” who I believe he wants both Loki’s to be but will be Sylvie. Sylvie will end up as “She who Remains”.

The shut the f**k up Ryan Arey clip will never get old. Love Ryan but that’s some funny shit.

Spot on mate

I have a feeling that there are infinite timeliness that are near identical to this one, right up against the edge of distruction like the current one, we cut to each timeline over and over until they fix the issue. (As each time we cut to each identical timeline, something slightly different happens to Mr timely, until we hit the one where he survives and again, fixes the issue)

Thank you Paul.

I think events in the TVA happen everywhere all at once. The events of the TVA are not fixed in time and I assume we will see the chaos hit timelines at all point in time since any Kang released in his own future relative to the point in time he goes back to cause chaos in will be able to cause that chaos anywhere and everywhere at anytime

This episode was absolutely phenomenal! I was actually left speechless! Loki is on another level for Marvel TV! 10/10.

@jeremypearson9019

8 ай бұрын

No kidding! Why couldn't all the other marvel projects be this good in the past 4 years?

That ending was spectacular

This episode is so good, best show by marvel, good theory mate!

Is no one going to address the fact that literally ALL of this is sylvie’s fault?? Her choices have directly caused the death of TRILLIONS…why is she acting so condescending to mobius😂I’m confused, if someone can explain this to me i would be very grateful, please be nice to me😊

@JR-96283

8 ай бұрын

When you really think about it’s Kangs fault. Sylvie might’ve overreacted but I wouldn’t put all this on her. She’s harsh because she despises the TVA and what they stand for and she believes that Mobius SHOULD want to see his life on the timeline. If you REALLY think about she’s coming from a good place and doesn’t see Mobius as just some brainwashed TVA agent. She cares about him.

@leastbased

8 ай бұрын

yeah we can tell youre confused, woman bad

@ImReadyDepression

8 ай бұрын

Exactly I feel like everyone just forgives sylvie like she did nothing wrong when she did everything wrong. If she didnt kill he who remains then everything would be fine but no she had to be a selfish dumba** and put the whole multiverse in danger. I dont know if he who remains has bigger plans or not but she made things worst regardless.

@sprayfarts7892

8 ай бұрын

@@leastbasedhot take. Thank you for contributing

@Kilonzo8811

8 ай бұрын

@@leastbased what? I’m just confused why no one is bringing up the fact that at the end of the first season she broke the universe?? Did she not? I’m not saying that bc she’s a woman, can you read? i asked you to explain why this was acceptable…guess you can’t justify that😂

Finally a explanation! :) I didn’t understand it. But hopefully I Will a little bit more

1:44 you migth need an own term for this. Starting to hear it alot. 1:44 Great work man❤

I dont think we're seeing another loop, I feel we're getting a different version of the cycle were Kang the Conqueror becomes the winner. Hence why Secret Wars will be happening with one winning and ruling over all of reality, either in Battle World or across the Multiverse. We just saw the loop reset, to me it seems like both Loki and Sylvies involvment has changed the course of the Oroboros

Ha, you probably read my comment on the other video for ep.4 with O.B. actually being a Loki's son, because, well, that's Norse mythology. And the too much green, and the spiked pies making everyone obedient, yeah I think there's some Loki magic behind all this.

Maybe OB resetting the TVA security system led to the failure of the Temporal Loom? That might be the reason why the suit doesn't give any protection to Victor Timely. And also I had theorised that Victor Timely from the branched timeline might be a false HWR. He's overloaded with information of his future as HWR and finally believed himself to be a "hero". I don't believe this Victor Timely is dead. He could be transported somewhere else by the Temporal Loom and thus he will become Immortus.

I get happy when I hear your voice ❤

Alioth's going to recognize Renslayer, she led HWR's Army in the war afterall and they used Alioth to win that.

Maybe he who remains plan can still be in play it's all most like Grand admiral thrawn type of plans is it quite interesting

@Patches2012-

8 ай бұрын

Always one step ahead

Thanks man my brain was hurting with the end of the episode 4 😅

The thing I don’t understand is people say that Ms Minutes couldn’t interact with the physical world so she couldn’t deliver the book but we’ve seen multiple instances where she has interacted with the physical world. In season one when she was evading Loki and moved everything on the desk. In this season when she went big and scared the crowd. She tore down the banner and a few other things. Is this meant to be a Patrick swayze Ghost thing wheee she can bump 💩 but can’t hold,carry things? Or is this just an oversight by the writers?

@Diditallforthexp

8 ай бұрын

"In episode 209 when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes the same rib twice in succession, yet he produces two clearly different tones. I mean, what are we to believe, that this is some sort of a magic xylophone or something? Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder."

@WinterSo1dier

8 ай бұрын

@@Diditallforthexp 🤣🤣 it ain’t that deep. I was just looking for an explanation I might have missed. If there wasn’t one and it was just missed by writers my life will continue.

@ayoomisope6563

8 ай бұрын

@@WinterSo1dierI believe she could’ve grabbed the book herself; however, she did exactly what He Who Remains said. For whatever reason, he wanted Ravonna to deliver it herself. Also, maybe she just can’t “disappear” with a physical object. On another note, how did Ms. Minutes end up on the timeline? On whose temp pad did she come from?

@master-of-mind5881

8 ай бұрын

She’s basically like some interactive hologram. I tend to think of her like the holograms in Star Trek. They could go anywhere and interact with the physical world but they also had an off switch too.

@Marshkoon

8 ай бұрын

@@master-of-mind5881she probably couldn’t move things outside the TVA she could even be locked into a temp pad when not in the TVA forcefully where she can’t come out as shown by Victor

I think I like the ball-busting between the KZread presenters as much as the presentation itself.

Loki being a villain again is going to suck

Loki found his meaning

I didn't even watch the video yet, from the preview, talkin about, "uh-oh SpaghettiOs" 😂😂😂😂😂. Definitely had to like it already

I think Loki has the ultimate plan here by pruning his second at the TVA

you know what? we just witness how kang origin started. that victor timely received tva guidebook, later will branched into infinite number. not only become victor timely, but will become so many people other than "our" timely, and becoming too many because timeline is exploded now

@breathair66

8 ай бұрын

i thinl the reason all of these happened is that kang n ob in 31st wrote everything in the guide book with each other then somehow they found the mulituverse exists and they found timely and they wanted him to be powerful n genuis like them but they didn't know they created cycle of war between mulituverse n then he who remains just remained in the end of time n then that's how we got the sacred timeline and the cycle of these things

you made two licks of sense in fact

Thank you 🙏 for the breakdown because this Shid is confusing AF too me and my wife 😅

I think it is possible that not only was the loom failing the birth of the multiverse, but maybe is also what causes the destruction. It could be the catalyst to all of the incursions

There are multiple Kangs. The Majority are the ones so hell bent on maintaining control in some form, many believes in working together to keep a stable order. Some are rouges. A few like Victor are not evil, and possibly the original Kang in Loki truly seemed he was tired and remorseful for his actions. I think the sacred timeline Kang saw a opening for something new. Instead of a multi-verse with Kangs how about a multi-verse run by other people? He probably figured that by putting someone else completely in charge that was not a Kang it would result in a different direction or better yet allow the existence of other multi-verses led by individuals not Kang allowing different factions, that doesn't follow the same Kang mindset. Loki likely he figured was a good choice cause Loki always deviated from the order of events at some point or another, far more than a average person or even important individuals. Slyvie isn't normal either. She's a Loki that was a one in a million chance given that all known Loki's were males. Something tells me he had tried it before, and the inclusion of Slyvie was likely something completely fresh and new to Kang. She was not expected, she wasn't planned. Loki himself might have been but his interactions with her might not have been the initial plan cause of one important thing. Kang in season one pointing out when they all reached a threshold where he would have no foresight or knowledge of. He wouldn't know what the outcome would be. The outcome of them not taking the throne was not expected given Lokis thirst for power, and Kang will always have a contingency just incase, However I think Kang is hoping that Slyvie or Loki or both end up becoming the rulers or new leaders of a new multi-verse at least benevolent. They just have to earn it. Kang can wait. He has time.

Loki Season 1 is out on Blu-ray? *AWESOME!* I had no idea!

Yay a Greg cameo!

3:53 you’re right about that, but if you look at the schedule, the majority of the shows were pushed back significantly, or not even releasing. The thing about Loki is that it takes place out of time like the quantum realm. So you can literally release the show any time in the MCU.

You say pruned so many times in the first minutes of this video, it’s really making me want a fig roll. Fig. Prune. Same difference xxx

Aww man Victor did not deserve to turn into spaghetti

I was hoping that Loki wouldn't prune himself and break the loop. I had the impression he was thinking about not doing it when he looked at his pruning rod.

Did you catch the Back to the Future reference when OB is apologising about the crudeness of his model and how it wasn't to scale, very Doc brown, anyway keep up the good work

Yeah, this is the best explanation for where the original HWR came from and why he needed to give the book to a young Victor Timely.

My theory is Allioth Knows renslayer. It was basically he who remains' pet and im assuming so was renslayers'. because its memory was not erased.

Bro really said get pruned if you don’t want to get ruined

So … spagettification sends parts of Victor throughout the various timelines and means “he” is born as Nathaniel Richards in the year 3000 or whenever he was born and enables him to use future tech to start the whole process

I still remember when I thought the MCU would depict Kang and Victor Timely as the time conquering monsters they are. But now they’re treated as jokes to the timeline that can be dealt woth

Does anyone else notice a consistency between how Kang got Janet to work with him vs how Timely ended up working with the team in this show? In both instances Kang/Timely present initially as someone to have sympathy for. In Quantumania Kang gets Janet's sympathy (even though the audience knew otherwise) and in Loki it seems like everyone is really loving and feeling for Timely. Once the "mission" ultimately ends up "successful" could we see a turn in Timely that lets everyone know (characters and audience) that even though they achieved what was being hoped for, it's actually the worst thing they could've done and makes the Kang Dynasty and all that possible? Just curious

One thing I have not heard anyone talk about is shang chi’s rings. They have to play a part somewhere. What if they were in Timelys device and it weaved his threads when he was spaghettified?

I think Viktor turning to spaghetti was all part of he who remains plan to make sure he would be split and put into every timeline and the war can begin again

@Mztonyg

8 ай бұрын

I agree with this.

@rajimus

8 ай бұрын

yeah this is what i think too.

@Jaysin412

8 ай бұрын

Like yeah, he who remains is dead, but turning Viktor to spaghetti places seeds of Kang throughout every timeline, and every era, past, present, and future... like say, the 31st century?

@D4RKMA7TER

8 ай бұрын

yeah idk if that is how that works at all - when you know for a fact variants occur when you make a different choice than the main timeline choice. this idea honestly doesn't make sense he literally died. its been highly suggested that the universes are inside of blackholes and O.B. talks about spaghettification from the radiation even though that in itself doesn't make sense even when being inside the blackhole and how they supposedly work in reality

@erikagholston6610

8 ай бұрын

That's what I thought too when i saw the smoke come out of Victor when he turned to spaghetti.

I think that past the point of no return with the timeline branches is a point where the sacred timeline touches the multiverse (the reason the kang states they’re beginning to touch the multiverse at the end of quantumania) and that the war mentioned is a war between kang and avengers which is why we see there is a council as we’ve seen. I believe he who remains is a good guy and he’s eventually going to have a young variant that turns out to be an iron lad

If OB's reset allowed for magic in the TVA, did it also allow for those infinity stones in Casey's drawer to be powerful again or does the idea that they only have power in their original universe hold true?

@broman3000

8 ай бұрын

Marvel did a what if where ultron had em

@merked408

8 ай бұрын

Casey's trolley was pruned and sent to the void in S1... although I doubt that was the only place they kept seized infinity stones, so who knows lol

Entertainment Tonight had a preview that’s still on KZread with a picture of Möbius on a jet ski! It was posted 3 weeks ago and is at the 1:18 mark.

I love the higher Loki theory. Iove the Loki trying to break free of himself arks so much so ill 100% be ok with that version

1:57 we clearly see Miss Minutes touching physical objects

Everyone thinks that Victor receiving the book is what makes the timeline branch but I contend that when Loki and Mobius arrive after Ravonna and Minutes were already there, it’s not labeled branched timeline.. I believe Ravonna is what’s branching that timeline, being there trying to recruit Victor as a partner, Ms Minutes ghost articles in news papers showing us they’ve been there for a while. It doesn’t say it’s Branched until Loki and Mobius arrive in 1893, but in 1868 Ravonna has already handed the book off.

Allright hear me out, with the latest loki episode 5 and 6 trailer i think and the end of the cliffhanger of episode 4 loki will time slip again to the future and he will stop victor timely turning into spaghetti, hence why we get the other shots of them standing all together watching the loom, hence why we see him (loki) in the video going out himself at the loom when it's so radioactive, i think that's a pretty solid theory, in the end loki will be the leader of the TVA

@mask_replays8618

8 ай бұрын

hence why we see in the beginning of the trailer that loki says he will do it, he says " i'm a fast learner and i am a god'. Those lines we have never heard in that shot before where he was standing with victor, OB, mobius and sylvie, hence why the theory would be correct that he will prevent victor timely his dead

I sensed a disturbance in my line-up

It’s so funny how this show is amazing but so damn confusing if it wasn’t for these videos, I think I will be completely lost. Lol! I realize that the story is a big circle that’s bound to repeat itself, but I think that the part that I’m really stuck on is if Victor timely is the originator why was he ever chosen from the beginning? I hope that question makes sense.

@ArcanePower1

8 ай бұрын

Thats the best part about this series, you know the beginning and end of the loop, but not the middle. A interesting twist

The reveal of the Council was to scope the sheer number of universes there are. This could have happened in a different universe where Lang never even went quantum.

Great video. Now explain it to me like I am 5 years old.

I wonder if Victor spaghettifying is what created the Kangs to begin with. Since the explosion happens just seconds after, maybe each bit of his...spaghettis became its own Kang as the explosion collided with them. That's why the Sacred Timeline was the one HWR protected, because its the one with the original Kang that seeds the new reality

@imnotakingimnotagodiam..ab9455

8 ай бұрын

YUCK

@bloodyneptune

8 ай бұрын

@imnotakingimnotagodiam..ab9455 Yeah I think I explained that gross 😂 I meant more like...we don't know how spaghettification via temporal radation works, maybe each peice isn't a different part of his body, but it was him splitting into countless selves and being pulled away. Before they could be destroyed out there like they usually would, they were hit with the explosion and each split self had somewhere to go I kinda made it sound like Kang Spaghetti landed in a bunch of realities and grew into people lol

@ArcanePower1

8 ай бұрын

@@bloodyneptunei mean you can be right

This is great, but how would this explain victor timely and ouroboros relationship?

LOKI Endgame😮

I think this victor is he who remains. The line “wizards you saved my life” makes me think that this is why he who remains chooses them to take over for him, because in a weird way at the beginning of his life they are the ones who save him and set him on his path

@heavyspoilers What if the council of Kang isn't taking about the Kang from Antman Q,they are taking about He who remains

that matrix clip was heeeeelllllaaaa fukin funny lmfao rofl

Whew, Paul…

Oh dang......2 different episode 4 ending explained breakdowns....yall really racking your brain on this one lol

Miss Min can to interact with the physical world she literally swipes at Victor time’s glasses moving them then she makes herself giant and literally stomps through 19 1890s Chicago you see the ground vibration you see the tassels that were hanging up get torn down by her hand and everything

I think it’s not before QM, more likely to be out of any time, meaning it’s currently happening when we see it. Especially since HWR isolated the sacred timeline (one timeline per universe, vice versa) meaning the other Kangs been around the isolated timeline the whole time, that’s why we have the end-credits of Quantumania with one Kang saying “they begin to touch the multiverse” like we begin to re-connect/get out of isolation into the multiverse via branches. It’s more like this “small part” of the multiverse, which was isolated as our sacred timeline, just exploded and will bring I guess even consequences to the other timelines/universes around the sacred timeline, meaning incursions and etc ✌️

I ain’t gonna eat spaghetti for a while

Eric Voss pointed out that ms minutes can physically touch stuff cuz when she grows at the fair and scares everyone she’s physically pulling wires and decorations down.

The jet ski shop.looks like the actual ace cafe ( biker cafe) London in our reality.

OB only knew of victor timely when victor timely showed up at the tva in front of OB. This was introduced earlier when Loki time skipped back 400 years and told OB about time skipping and that’s when OB created the device and had it show up right next to him in real time. Also he was remembering things that Loki was telling him in real time, it’s kind of like quantum entanglement except there also linked through time.

He who remains doesn't have the scars on his face so the exile can't be him. It has to be one of the variants we haven't meant yet. The exiles death was also confirmed by the council of Kang's. Don't think we'll find the new he who remains until after Kang Dynasty.

t'was nice

So I’m guessing that the remainder of the episodes are gonna be centered around the timeframe when Loki was time slipping and something happens where he finds a way to prevent the outcome that took place at the end of the recent episode?

Uh oh spaghetti o is the best opener ever 😊

Did y’all notice in 6:03the machine look like the tva timeline loop a lot of timeline branch entering one single branch line maybe when Kang disappeared the tva blew up in Loki present

Who else noticed that the instagram account of Loki has all but one of their post deleted and the one left was an error message from miss minutes on a tempad