You can set it to automatically set your platform. I have set mine PlayStation version to PS5 so I don't have to select every time. You will find it at the bottom on the menu options

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

In the options on the wheel? I didn't look in there, cheers!

@RJIGGLES

Жыл бұрын

Came to leave a similar comment, it's at the bottom LED screen menu of the G-hub settings. I have my wheel set as PC mode permanently in the menu. You can also set the wheel to be read as G923 or Pro Wheel for compatibility reasons, it will require the wheel to restart when you do that. I did this once to play Dirt 2.0 and noticed the Force Feedback is not as great and relies more on Torque and Audio, I didn't enjoy the switch in modes. Audio force feedback is very unrealistic for G923 mode, in my opinion.

@sadsismint

Жыл бұрын

Didn't know this!!! Great tip, I didn't spot this before, going to give it a go later! :D

@Powerpoint4

Жыл бұрын

Just remember to change it to PC when checking for firmware updates as I sat there for 30mins trying to work out why it wasn't showing up in the hub 😂

@justincolquhoun4392

Жыл бұрын

@@Powerpoint4 Wish I had of read this first

And the cat clawing away on your race seat in the background pmsl 🤣

@sandrocostley-white6730

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@antjones2281

Жыл бұрын

I thought it was going to bring down the whole display. That would have been hilarious.

@benjimc1

Жыл бұрын

that gave me flashbacks. my cat ruined my old seat..

@EzzraOG

Жыл бұрын

That was pain to watch

@laureatestar5966

Жыл бұрын

At least the cat only clawed once and was laughing when the claw got stuck 😂

People love to hate plastic. There's a perception that plastic = cheap, always and there's no exception. But there are so many grades and types of plastic. Plastic can be great and can feel really nice while maintaining a low weight. Like you said, the motor and plate are steel, and the steering wheel is aluminum (I assume) wrapped in a very fine grain leather. The shell is plastic, but it's a premium plastic; it's not cheap. In my personal opinion the plastic shell is way more attractive than the industrial, bare heatsink look of other brands. It looks like an actual product, while even Fanatec still looks like they are made in someone's garage. Made very well by a skilled craftsman, but in his garage with his lathe and powertools. The look was a significant reason I wanted it. I tried not to consider looks for my purchasing decision (I only play in VR, anyway), but I just couldn't want another one and I know it's because the Logitech looked good.

Wild. I Never ever thought in a million years Logitech would jump into the direct drive market, especially before Thrustmaster too.

@TrevorJones1

Жыл бұрын

I almost feel like the price point is a bit of a "flex" on Logitech part. If they went the 5nm route then they would sell more but then the elitists would be like "it's just another low end Logitech product" At this price range it's actually more expensive than Fanatec so nobody can mistake this wheel for being mid--range. Hopefully they can get that price down.

@seebarry4068

Жыл бұрын

@@TrevorJones1 I hope so. Comparable price to a non DD fanatec is pretty reasonable.

@caliginousmoira8565

Жыл бұрын

@@seebarry4068 all they make are DD now.... or so i thought. i haven't seen anything but that on the site

@arranmc182

Жыл бұрын

@@TrevorJones1 after I had the fanetech software crash and cost me a win in iRacing due to the wheel just stop working and I went hard right in game and crashed out 2 cars at daytona and ended up under investigation I stopped using them as never had that issue on Logitech or Thrustmaster wheels I had used before

@brian5863

Жыл бұрын

And still be loud about it! Cmon man that sound is disgusting

Great review. Logitechs reliability is top notch. Had a good chuckle between the cat servicing itself and the shaft inspection.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Always something to laugh about when you do a review off the cuff! Never know whats going to happen?! lol

@Johns1

3 ай бұрын

The cat was amazing, and the review as well :-)

I knew we were both thinking the same when you talked about the 2 fingers on the shaft stuff xD I've just started watching the video but from my previous experiences on your channel I don't even need to watch the entire video to know you did a brilliant job. You helped me quite a lot with all the stuff about sim racing recently and I just wanted to say thank you. Definitely my go to youtuber for anything sim racing related.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

No mate thank you for the kind words, means a lot in a world of people who all like to shout negatively most of the time! :)

Great review Karl. Loved Ori's cameo - great to see she is enjoying your rig too!!

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

lol Likes to get involved even if in the "background" :)

TrueForce is excellent if set up right in a game that supports it.

@supercededman

10 ай бұрын

TF proper setup and implantation in-game is very important. I wonder what Wil from Boosted Media had as settings. I'd be interested on the feedback from him if Karl inquired.

The stitching where your thumbs sit does soften up nicely over time, mine was also quite rough to begin with but I love this feel of it now. I had Fanatec DD2 with porsche alcantara rim before this and hated it all, buggy software thin wheel rim way too hard feel to it. Would pick the logitech again and again, price was around £1250 with pedals, free shipping no import tax - price is very similar to anything else out there really imo.

@charleswatson3951

8 ай бұрын

Hello, is this still true 11 months later? I'm really torn between this and other brands but you are right, by the time you factor in shipping and import its about the same, but with more torque

@Loz636

8 ай бұрын

@@charleswatson3951 yep still going strong 👍🏻

Finally, about time. I’ve been waiting for this 😊. I ordered mine the day after it was released. Amazing wheel.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoy it!

Very nice review .I'm still in my first week with mine and just getting to grips with the perfect setting and love it .The quality and feel of everything is on another level .For a Thrustmaster user like me it's a bit like getting off an old Honda and jumping on a BMW shaft drive .

@ty194

Жыл бұрын

It's funny you use that analogy because I literally just got shot of my Honda Civic and got a BMW 330ci which is night and day 🤣

@VailingGoose

Жыл бұрын

@@ty194 On a track and b roads,i don't think so pal

@ty194

Жыл бұрын

@@VailingGoose I don't think anyone knows wtf you're talking about, so I'll just leave it.

@ARDEN440i

Жыл бұрын

@@ty194 330ci very nice car 👍🏾

@ty194

Жыл бұрын

@@ARDEN440i Indeed buddy. Drives like a dream and has lots of bells and whistles. I definitely recommend if you have the spare cash. 👍🏾

man i have been waiting for your review of this i just like how honest you are about thing.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Cheers mate!

Another thorough review cheers 👍🏼 Gone down the Fanatec route myself, but looking forward to hearing your thoughts on the new Thrustmaster DD when you get your hands on one. Keep it up mate : )

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

I'll be certain to get one in mate yes!

I have this wheel on the shortlist along with the GT DD 8nm. Based on what I know it doesn’t seem to be much pricier because the GT wheel seems to be low quality and quick to wear out. Also the pedals aren’t great so with CS v3 pedals and upgraded wheel from Fanatec you get into the same price range.

The 1080° Rotation is an important info for me. In Euro Truck Simulator 2 and American Truck Siimulator, I am driving with 1800°.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Oh wow! I've no experience with those sims but yes this wheel is not for you then mate.

As always, great review Karl. The cat stole the show in the 1st few minutes though!!

Thanks Karl... I am late to ur video.. But i remember watching ur previouse video about Quest VR racing before... .. good video as always.

the review on this wheel I have been waiting for!!

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Hope you're good mate! :)

Great review, I liked the way you compared the TrueForce effects to using transducers. The reason I considered this wheel was that other reviewers say the FFB is exceptional and the added TrueForce (something other wheel bases dont have) is really great paired together. But as you mentioned with TrueForce vibrations aren't realistically going through the wheel and should be coming through the chassis/tires (like mounted transducers), do you think I could get the same or better audio vibration experience using mounted transducers and SimHub?

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

You will get a MUCH better experience using transducers and sim hub yes!

great! I was waiting for your review of this piece

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I've been waiting for this. Appreciate your content as I'm considering my first direct drive wheel.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Happy to help mate, it's a decent wheel base if you like the way it looks and don't mind the price.

@mediumraresteak851

Жыл бұрын

What a year for DD wheels! I need to see the reviews on Thrustmasters DD and Asetek Forte's before I finalize the decision.

@mannyfresh7065

5 ай бұрын

@@mediumraresteak851what’d you end up going with?

@mediumraresteak851

5 ай бұрын

@@mannyfresh7065 VRS Direct Force Pro. If you plan to play simcade titles like Forza, it's not as compatible as Fanatec or Logitech.

Thanks for the honest review, Karl. Spot on mate. One thing i'd say is Logitech's website says in stock ready to ship.... Ordered mine 5 days ago and am still waiting for it to ship! I'd probably have cancelled and gone fanatec, but they say it can take up to 30 days to get my money back (as i paid via paypal) and Fanatec seems to always be sold out. So i guess i'll just hang on another week until they ship it.

@pedrosilvaproductions

Жыл бұрын

Alternatively, it could be a good idea to search for the used market. You can find good deals. I bought a set of Clubsport V3 pedals with all the upgrades for 250€

@LithonTheBlack

Жыл бұрын

@@pedrosilvaproductions Cheers for the suggestion. I would like to have warranty though, A lot of money for something to break and be stuck with it. I could live with 2nd hand pedals, but the motor is what i'd be concerned about. Cheers.

Loved the review, thanks for posting. I was looking for some info on this wheel since it's damn near impossible to get a Fanatec right now, and this is the only other DD wheelbase compatible with PlayStation. I'm a little disappointed by all the commenters implying that since you didn't like the wheel, that means anyone who did was being paid for their review. Is it really that impossible to think different people like different things?

Great review. Don't necessarily agree with you that Trueforce is terrible but I appreciate that you've given your reasons for why you think the way you do which is more than some other reviewers do. I've put hundreds of hours in with this wheel already, mainly on gt7 and it's absolutely renewed my love for the driving experience in the game

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike, we're all allowed different opinions of course :) But apparently GT7 is one of the only titles where it works well and typically I don't have that to test! lol But with DR2.0 and ACC for example it's horrible and of course the principle of trying to get one motor to do so many different things at once is still valid.

@red2lucas

Жыл бұрын

You need to turn the effect down to about 30%

@robinv1485

11 ай бұрын

He had it at 5% mate @@red2lucas

@supercededman

10 ай бұрын

​@@KarlGoslinghi Karl. Great review, very honest. I've just set mine up for GT7, and Logitech's website suggests turning the in-game vibration setting down to 35 (out of 100). I think you are right; GT7 implements it far better than other games. Wil did an extensive test (as you mentioned) and did not mention the TF issues. I'd be interested to know what settings he ran, and if he was using GT7 (I don't think he was). Agreed, it sounded awful. Mine doesn't sound like that. Go figure 😮

@mannyfresh7065

5 ай бұрын

@@supercededmanI currently have a g29 (just got into sim) and playing GT7. Can you share your settings? I’d like to upgrade to the pro and curious what settings you use.

You can preset the prefered platform in the settings so you don't have to choose everytime upon startup.

@Manny478

Жыл бұрын

I have Xbox and PS5 witch one do I have to buy for it to be compatible with both consoles?

@HesDeadJim

Жыл бұрын

​@@Manny478 PS5 chip is in the wheel base, Xbox chips are in the rim, so if you want to future proof, you should get the PS5 package, then when Logitech releases new rims, get one that is Xbox specific, and it will work on Xbox. If you buy the Xbox base, it will never work with PlayStation.

Welcome back to the grind mate 👍 fair play to Logitech but I just tune in my R9 with the help of sim racing garage and tell ya what mate, feels brilliant. Take it easy bud 🍻

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Cheers Junior! The R9 does feel great to drive with, glad it's doing you well! :)

@steam-SMOKEY

Жыл бұрын

@Karl Gosling cheers mate. Glad see you back 🥃

Another top review 👍 And a bonus point for the cat 😋 I think you can choose pc or xbox via the software (so you don’t have to do it when you start)

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate! Oh in G-Hub? I didn't see it in there but could have missed it.

@RcnSct

Жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling There should be an option within the wheelbase itself. Under platform you should be able to select PC, Xbox, or On startup. If "on startup" is selected, it will prompt you every time you turn it on.

The noise seems to me that you are experiencing a ground loop or a defective unit. It should only be utilizing LFE and so if you're hearing higher frequencies then you're either experiencing audio sample rate conflicts or it's a ground loop and you would need to experiment with how you plug your devices into power in order to isolate the cause and eliminate the electrical noise introduced to the audio path.

hello from France Karl! Always so cool to watch your reviews! a guy who attracts sympathy. Reviews that answer the questions asked by " Mister everyone" ( Monsieur tout-le-monde). The cat is very cool too. Good job! Sorry for my English.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Your English is fine, no apologies! :)

Good to see you back mate! Thanks fir the review. Gee that new Asetek La Prima set looks the goods!

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Yes I'm hoping to get something in for review so we'll see! :)

I love your videos. And I have to add, I had the best to tears laughing fit when your cat started using your racing seat as a claw pole…He’s busy now, let me have at it…😂

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Yes she was having a great time behind me whilst I had no idea! lol

I wish reviewers would be more carful about info on products. I based my last wheel purchase for Xbox on a review that said this was PC only. In the end it is on me but still irritating! Thank you Karl , nice review with no punches pulled.

Great vid Karl I’m thinking of upgrading my G29 to a G pro only thing is the base on my race sim .. is base mounting screws on the G pro same as the g29 so it’s no issues ? Thanks

Thank you for another great review. It looks like you had the base mounted to a GT Omega Titan cockpit. Did the cockpit feel solid, any flex? I am thinking about upgrading my Thrustmaster TS-XW to the Logitech or a 8 Nm Fanatec wheel since I am using ACC and F1 22 on Xbox. I really don't see going the PC route anytime soon and the Logitech seems to be a good choice for the Xbox (and future PC compatibility). Thanks.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the Titan was fine mate, it's what I use to test all my wheel bases... Discounted link in the description too! :)

Thanks for the review, RE Trueforce FB, or whatevers its called, because its fully software and algorithm based they can (and i assume they do this already), is that they would turn that section down when the motor needs to work on the traditional FFB things. I dont believe this would be a constant/linear application throughout the experience because as you quite rightly say it will not only detract from the physical experience, but also software wise it would take out the poling bit rates of what the rest of the road surfaces are doing. TLDR I don't think the weighting of this feature is actually linear or on/off style, it will ramp down or have lower priority when the wheel is needed for actual FFB. If that is not true, im sure they will correct it in future updates.

Great video Karl. Does the Trueforce enable you to feel the gearshifts in Gran Turismo 7 like you do on the control pad. The DD Pro is missing this area of detail whereas the T-GT 2 had this (in addition to some annoying force feedback similar to the Trueforce). Would be good to know how this wheel compares directly to the DD Pro thanks

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Hmm I actually can't remember mate sorry.

Great review as usual, Karl. Applause to Logitech for finally getting into the DD market, but at $1000 I would have expected a glowing review of a "must have" piece of kit. But what we have is a luke warm review of a better than the old stuff wheel base coupled to a totally mundane wheel rim. I can't see spending that kind of money for this, so I wont. Thanks for all you do for the sim racers out here by giving no holds barred, honest reviews.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the DD motor and FFB is great but overall too much money and it's ugly IMO! lol

@nickbroekman9360

Жыл бұрын

Weird that 9 out of 10 other reviews are absolutely raving for this wheel and pedals…

@P1tr_

Жыл бұрын

@@nickbroekman9360 Maybe because they are paid reviews 😅

@nickbroekman9360

Жыл бұрын

@@P1tr_ yeah that’s what I was wondering. That’s a real problem if its true. What would be a better alternative in the same price bracket and with the same quality/nm then?

@TrevorJones1

Жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling I personally love the future look.

Fantastic in depth review. In my mind this logitech system is like a honda, unspiring looks but you know it will always work and get you home, or in this case, get you onto podium.

@KarlGosling

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Excellent video. I enjoy the single take review style and deliberate pacing. Quick question: is a wheel like this too powerful and/or heavy for a moveable cockpit like a Next Level Racing GT LITE. I hesitate to upgrade to a high end wheel as I dont want to spend so much and have the whole thing too unstable on a portable cockpit.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, you'd probably need to run it at a lower power setting to minimise wobbly and flex but yes it would work.

@eleventy70

Жыл бұрын

I use the CSL DD with the boost kit on my GT Lite and it's perfect! You wmcan run it at full strength just gotta make sure it's solid when you're set up

To be fair, the noises coming from the true force in DR2 are reminiscent of actual noises in some rally cars that I've been in, lmao. And some of them do rattle/vibrate that badly. It's great fun.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Thats supposed to be engine RPM mate! lol

@ConfusedRaccoon

Жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling Yeah, they missed the mark by a mile, but as an extra bit of ambiance or something, it's kinda fitting. Shame it's on the wheel.

Very interested in this and the pedals as a DD upgrade (had my G29 for about 3/4 months now) and am feeling justified in spending a little more now I know I love sim racing. Not sure if spending this much at this time would be warranted however, so still considering the Moza R5 bundle. Tough choices ahead.

@maximme

Жыл бұрын

think money is better spent on Pedals, like simucube ACTIVE pedals. Looks like a game changer

@TrevorJones1

Жыл бұрын

@@maximme 2023 Logitech announces the G- Pro force pedals.

@trevorwaite6848

Жыл бұрын

I upgraded from a G29, I play on console and PS5 and very happy with my Pro, If I just used PC I'd go Moza R9

Depends on the vehicle Karl, whether Kerbs and the like are felt through the wheel, maybe not so much in a van, but in a Kart or any single seater you feel the kerbs through the wheel and seat, as the saying goes "drive by the seat of your pants" - as always Karl. Good vid mate

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Yeah thats true and of course they have no PAS in which case a lot more is felt through the wheel.

@thedirtyscotTV

Жыл бұрын

I track an MX-5 MK2 and I can tell you right now, you feel plenty of the road through the wheel. I don't mean feeling the wheel correct itself on a kerb either.

Been watching you for the last few hours now outta nowhere it's 1am. Great content karl

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

lol Thanks Aaron!

You have to turn down the vibration setting in gt7 main menu. It's set to 100 by default. Set game to 35 then set wheel audio to 35 well 👍

@supercededman

10 ай бұрын

Exactly. Set at 100 it would be horrendous. Logitech's website has recommended settings for platforms and games.

The cat shreddin on the seat..lol

I really like the trueforce on this wheel. But I can see Karl is used to a much more expensive setup than me. I won’t be getting 6 transducers or anything like that.

Always a great honest video, thanks Karl :)

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

Lol the cat is destroying your race chair in the background.. Great review

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Yup, she loves it! lol

You are the first one that said honestly how the trueforce feels... Even on boosted media they praised the wheel for trueforce implementation. And I was honestly sceptical... I am glad Logitech entered the DD market but I am going with Fanatec gt dd pro and add some transducers on my rig for the same price as this one with new "PRO" pedals.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

That would be a much more cost effective and better setup mate 100%.

@TheD4VR0S

Жыл бұрын

before you do do you need to test compatibility with driving games like need for speed or f1 2015 and earlier (maybe even 16/17/18) if you do the fanatec's dont work with them 90% of my driving games dont work

@rchatte100

Жыл бұрын

Fanatec have been OOS for months. Now they're saying next year. Really poor.

@mintblancmanche5508

Жыл бұрын

what do you expect from a "channel" called BOOSTED media? cucks just say whatever is good for the new clickbait video lol.

@supercededman

10 ай бұрын

I'm honestly confused about the difference in reporting of TF implementation between BOOSTED MEDIA and Karl. Both are very honest and extremely thorough. Both have built a reputation of integrity and total independence.

Thats the thing about UDP data from sims is that its kind of harsh and hard to layer from a single vibration source. It really is like audio engineering and trying to fit a bunch of frequencies all into one skinny strip of sandwiched chaos. What would be remarkable is if the Logitech Trueforce software could somehow take raw UDP data and compress it into a well balanced comprehensive “mix” that accentuates (but not overpowers) the force feedback -which is itself an algorithm tailored to have a wheel transmit the road feel in a convoluted way that makes up for not having a motion rig. So the two philosophies, one being that a wheel should do as much as it can to compensate for bot being reality and the other that it should be flat 1 : 1 wheel force like in early ACC and the buttkicker should do the rest exist. Or like how FFB mods have the grip loss effect heightened; All different but converging FFB philosophies. That could have been a cool concept if Logitec could pull something like that off with Trueforce. UDP and Simhub needs to get better too and give us more detailed and nuanced accessible control because the whole system is archaic and raw but is the heart of all the new technologies in sim racing hardware. We should be able to edit the textures and the frequencies themselves kind of like how DAWs let you do so much more with frequencies including effects and even mixing and mastering.

@trevorwaite6848

Жыл бұрын

I like the TF on ACC PC, I do have it on low though

@smoovematix

Жыл бұрын

Very well said.

Pedals? Did you get the load cell or is there a new Flintstone's feature? Love the honest review as always. Thank you for your time making it for us.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

The pedals do not come with the wheel base mate, they are another £350. No worries, glad you like them! :)

@a92gsxdsm

Жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling I understand that. I wanted to hear your opinion on them as im sure others did too. I know your big on pedals.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

@@a92gsxdsm pedal review will be later this week mate, didn't want this video to be any longer as it was already dragging out! lol :)

@wwashington0630

Жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling will the g920 pedals work on the pro wheel?

We've driven heaps of these wheels none of them feel like a race car real. A vibrator to feel a car through your spine says it all. Old thrustmaster feels as good as all of them to us.

I’d be getting a short cable to stay plugged into that micro-usb. I wouldn’t want to be messing up the port, by taking that cache in and out. The stitching is wonky to encourage you to buy another wheel, once they release them.

One thing I wished the base wheel has a round bottom, it has everything you would need, its a decent size and its logitech they might not have the glamour name but they always seem to last forever

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Agreed mate.

@RyKnocks

Жыл бұрын

I think the base is designed the way it is to cater to those wanting to desk mount. It needs a wider base to support the extra force.

@Karl - The package I am considering currently is a GT DD Pro Wheelbase (8nm) + CSL loadcell pedals + Clubsport RS Wheel which comes up to roughly the same amount as the Logitech G Pro wheel + pedals. Given I am based in India and will be getting these from the US, my key priority is reliability as I won't be able to do a return/replacement. Which one would you recommend as a safer option from reliability perspective (Fanatec may have some issues called out on forums but the product has been around and well tested; Logitech has good reliability in general but this product is relatively new)? Any guidance will be quite helpful

Thanks for another great video!

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

No worries!

Thanks for the honest reviews, apparently a lot of KZreadrs do not work ethically any more because I have seen a lot of them recommending this wheel and other bad wheels and say they are great! I think they are too afraid not to piss big companies off, which is really bad for the normal users because we get manipulated, and we end up buying poor quality stuff.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure there's definitely some of that going on mate, I've upset manufacturers with my reviews and so they don't send me things any more... So I just buy them in instead, no bother is it! :)

@iyadkamhiyeh527

Жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling that is why I deeply appreciate the honesty and professionalism in your reviews!

@TrevorJones1

Жыл бұрын

Problem with this statement is that your saying that this wheel is bad, and I assure you it is not. It's actually really top notch. I feel alot of people have some kind of grudge against Logitech or something..

@iyadkamhiyeh527

Жыл бұрын

@@TrevorJones1 for $1000 it is not good, especially with this True force BS. Some KZreadrs made a big deal of it!

@LJMRACING

Жыл бұрын

I call those sort of “reviews”, an advert

For some reasons, Logitech in general likes to use their left over Micro USB stock, its the same on their Mouse that use Micro USB for charging.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

So odd isn't it.

@mannyfresh7065

5 ай бұрын

Yeah the fact their g pro super light uses microusb I can say I wasn’t surprised to see it here

Thank you for another great review. Just one question. "DD1 or Logitech G Pro?". Which one would you chose as your only device?

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

DD1, looks nicer, smaller, more power and a greater choice of wheels... although the G PRO has a nicer quick release but I can deal with that.

@highlander5304

Жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling thank you!

Sorry Karl, can you say that all again. I was busy watching the cat 😸 despite the plastic, I'm tempted by one of these as my next wheel (and first DD). I've been having problems with Fanatec and remember fondly how bullet proof my old Logitech was.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

lol She is a distraction! :) Aside from plastic not looking premium the overall quality is top notch so I wouldn't hesitate if you don't mind the price and styling mate :)

@SirDazzyB

Жыл бұрын

Hey Doc, I've been testing one of these since release and aside from the aesthetic (which is purely subjective) I've been blown away how good it is. I've used a fair few DD wheels over the years and in terms of pure performance the G Pro is right up there. It's shockingly good for the price. Yes there's a fair bit of plastic, and some of the design decisions are questionable but the money saved in styling obviously went into the internals. I'd rather have it that way round than pay for something that looks good but has mediocre performance. Logitech deserve some credit for what they have made here. Trueforce is a nice bonus but not supported by many games - i actually don't mind it, but definitely not for everyone and that's fine. It's just an added feature and you can turn it off.

I retracted my comment on it's plastic looks as i now own the full bundle got the lot shipped and all for a total of £1212.48 it is quality IMO,it is too much power for casual sim racers it just feels so premium to use time will tell lets see what owners say in the future so many thinking this is like your average G920 it was not meant to be i think. Tell me who is selling this much for the price ive shown and free shipping from the Netherlands in just 4 days to the UK and it is in fact in stock,ive looked your dreaming if you think Fanatec or Moza sell this much for what i paided.

Great job as always Karl! Any chance you'll do a separate review for console use? Because it's a whole different wheel on it.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

I don't have any modern consoles mate sorry.

@DeadInThePool87

Жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling Appreciate the response. Keep up the great work!

Man… I was yelling at my phone screen telling you to turn around, the cats clawing your sim racing seat … haha

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Nothing unusual mate! lol

Love the cat in the background testing the durability of the racing chair.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

So far it's holding up well! lol

Great informative video Karl. The main issue with this is the price. I cannot see how someone will want to pay £999.00 for this especially as the load cell pedals are another £399.00. My Fanatec setup which is 8MM DD pro wheel base, McLaren GT3 wheel and CSL pedals with load cell plus the shipping and VAT (customs import charge) was just under £1000.00. Yes they have stock issues hence why I ordered a non Fanatec bundle item, but it’s really a better deal and in my option far superior. I just feel if someone is going to want to pay £1000.00 just for a direct wheel and base then surely they will do their research and realise there are other options out there. And if the selling point is because it’s 11MM base then in all honestly that is too much. I run my 8NM DD pro around 6-7 and that is more than enough.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Agreed mate, this will sell well only because of Logitechs huge marketing budget, it is a good well... just too expensive,

@Loz636

Жыл бұрын

I got pedals for £262.49, wheel was £999 - shipping from Fanatec and import was over £200 when I ordered early this year which makes the logitech a cheaper option, plus its more NM's and more buttons on the wheel! Every ad i see about this new logitech wheel is comments on how it is too expensive but it really isn't

@tomm2334

Жыл бұрын

prices must have come down, since I've just bought Logitech Pro wheel (ps5) and Pro pedals for £1100. (I saw the wheel selling at £800, ie £199 under previous price, which means pedals are selling for £300, also well under £399)...

@robinv1485

11 ай бұрын

I'm biting the bullet today since I could get everything for 999€ here. Where previously it sat at 1400€. That's with shipping and taxes inc. Without the pedals I think the price is dumb. With the pedals, my options were the moza r9 or fanatec dd, which would be more expensive for less performance (with loaded cell pedals). Im aware of the trueforce problems, but Im not buying for that.

Karl, given that you seem to be a DR2.0 fan (aren’t we all?), I would love to hear your take about WRC Generations. I comparison review would be awesome!

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

I'll take a look if I have time mate.

Great review as usual.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that.

Awesome, Karl finally got around to reviewing the G Pro! ::looks at video length:: O_O;; ::pages secretary:: "Sarah? Cancel the rest of my appointments for today, thank you."

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

lol! Yeah it's a long one!

Thanks brother, highly appreciate you always.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

No worries

The wheel base has a “clock spring” for the wheel electronics- like in a real road car.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Yes that's the one.

Stellar review mate very insightful. 👍

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it.

Low and behold, a proper unbiased non affiliated review. Thank you oh so much mate. Too many "fair and unbiased" reviews out there from folk who get the kit "given" to them by the makers. Liking your in depth tour of the G Pro so far Karl. You sorta look like a bloke who likes nothing better than a pissup and a fight but your intelligence and knowledge of the subject come through loud and clear for me. Just paused the video to comment on your opinion on Pro's looks. I quite like the shape. It reminds me of the Martians in the original 1953 War of the Worlds movie or even the main robot in Wall-E. Also I must say I don't like the Fanatec/Moza style bases. They look too much like something I just pulled out of a Ford Escort engine bay. For the price I would want some pretty bits bolted on and thank you Logitech for doing just that. As for trueforce I'll know what oyu mean when I buy this model but that won't be for a little under a year.

@KarlGosling

Ай бұрын

You're not the first person to describe me like that! lol I do like a beer but never really been a fighter unless I've needed to. Yeah the looks are very much personal taste.

@Loudlevin

24 күн бұрын

It all makes sense really, in the end no influencer twat is going to mention anything bad if its going to hit them in the pocket especially something like this where it has a very large target audience of people who don't know any better. I mean just look at all the idiots fawning over trueforce, im literally saying to myself are we experiencing the same thing, nope.. people love the engine rpm n64 rumble pack gimmick. I pulled the trigger and made the purchase and regret it , should have valued karls unbiased opinion more and gone asetek forte or simicube2 wheelbase.

@jed2055

24 күн бұрын

@@Loudlevin Well, I also pulled the trigger. Did it separately and missed out on a big AU$384 discount and a pair of racing gloves. Damn! Pedals yet to arrive but I've got the adapter so I'm using the G923 pedals at the moment. It's a step up from the G923 I have. As for game support for Trueforce; there aren't many just 2 on the PS5. More on the PC, 10 I think. Still, not enough to conquer the DD world. People are saying it's brilliant though . . . on the Pro but everyone knows it's $hit on the G923. Not a problem for me, I didn't buy it for that. I bought it for Logitechs known quality and service. When a McLaren wheel, shifter and handbrake come out in October you might think better of it Loudlevin. Don't shoot the goose yet mate.

After using my G Pro for a few weeks now, I think the TrueForce is very much dependent on how the game implements it. In GT7 it seems like it can reach much lower range of vibrations, similar to the buttckicker in the TGT2. But in DR2 it's WAY too high pitched and loud. It would be great if more games had granular controls of Trueforce feedback. Whereas in WRC Generations I hardly noticed any Trueforce, even though it says it's supported.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Ahh thats really interesting! As you're 100% right in DR2.0 it's horrible!

@useless154

Жыл бұрын

​​@@KarlGosling I was given this as a gift and about to buy a rig to upgrade from the playseat challenge. They claim the trueforce works well with the playseat trophy seat, I.e sending that through the chassis. Do you think that would work well or is trueforce still likely to be flawed?

Another great review. Could you mount this to a foldable setup or would it be too heavy?

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

You could yes, but it would be heavy and you would need to run the FFB lower to not have it throw your foldable around.

@MrVerbal

Жыл бұрын

@@KarlGosling thank you.

@JasperStaal86

Жыл бұрын

I've got it mounted to a Ps challenge, it's doable but not without reinforcing it. I've got a tutorial on my channel on how to do that! I'd put the ffb on 9.5 max!

Hello awesome review, I am getting this wheel and the pro pedals to go on a new gttrack by next level. I have a question that is confusing me. I want the Thrustmaster TH8A shifter to use with all this, will it plug into the usb on the wheel and work or will it need to be a seperate usb port for the shifter being a different brand. Many thanks.

@mannyfresh7065

5 ай бұрын

I know it’s 3 months but no it won’t

That cat in the background is awesome!

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

She is!

Very Nice Rev. I liked most the part about touching the shaft with 2 fingers. 😅😂

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Best bit of any review!

Hey Karl u seem to be a expert in the scene what would be the cheapest budget sim rig u would recommend I’m not looking to do sim racing properly or professionally just for a Logitech g923 and to play games like NFS and Forza that sort of stuff u know so what would be a rig u would suggest for someone just looking for a budget rig.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

I'd look at the ART from GT Omega mate, perfect for a starter rig and to use with a G923, there's a discounted link in the description if you want a few quid off too!

Regarding Truforce - imagine if the wheelbase had an audio output with the Truforce signal. The games that support it properly, it’s actually physics based. This would mean physics-based bass shakers on a console! One can only dream…

@crkvend

Жыл бұрын

Let us access the Truforce signal and handle it ourselves, Logitech! Take my money!

@gregpahl7326

Жыл бұрын

That was was my first thought as well and would be incredible! I think someone will work it in to a design eventually

Think it will work with the playseat challenge if used with the lowdown shifter LDS bracing mod ?

Pricing - just wanted to say I think the price is actually very justified. Most reviews are saying the force feedback is very good. For comparison, Fanatec's DD1 is 1,200 Euro without a wheel (so add at least 300 to get a metal connector wheel) and their bundle of CSL DD with plastic connected WRC wheel (mine is wobbly and can't cope with my belt drive force) is 700 Euro. So this sits closer to the CSl in price but closer to the DD1 in quality.... All open to debate of course and everyone will have different needs and budgets. And you could go Moza.... Hopefully, Logitech will offer other wheels soon, including cheaper ones, and the base on its own. Then we could use our existing wheels with an aftermarket adaptor. The Trueforce info is really useful to know. It seems it's not worth getting for that. I assume you can turn it off if you don't like it.

@SirDazzyB

Жыл бұрын

Could not agree more Doc. I see so many people saying this is overpriced. It's absolutely not. Yes, it's more expensive compared to an basic entry level DD wheel - which seems to be everyone's point of reference for some reason - but that's not a fair comparison as the G Pro is good enough to compete with most mid level offerings and comes in cheaper to boot. Yes, there are cheaper DD wheels out there but they are not as good.

Considering the size of the wheelbase, is it not possible that there is a separate motor that takes care of trueforce?

Great job Karl. Luv the cat.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

She's a little star mate! :)

the way your cat just climbs your sim rig is adorable, when are you gonna post a video of him driving >: )

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

She's a little beauty but not the best driver thats for sure! lol

Did they bring back the horn button in the middle?? Like the old one . I cheated on my set up . I put my peddles on an hafe door and mounted speakers to the door so you can feal it the peddles and 400w 12 subwoofer under the seat lol

Always wise to inspect the shaft for notches

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Definitely! lol

that cat gave me anxiety when he jumped up to the ceiling of your rig lol

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

A daily occurrence mate! lol

Man your cat is cracking me up 😂

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Ruining my seat! lol

great work, I've been trough the same. I thought there was something bad at first but the trueforce is just awful the rest IS GREAT!!!

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Agreed mate, I thought there was something wrong with my wheel base to begin with! lol

I also got sore thumbs after my first few sessions with G923. The stitches were quite stiff, with some pointy thread ends on them. But after a few sessions, with some hand grease and some help with vaseline, the threads become softer, and it becomes OKAY for bare hands. Don't know if the same applies to this wheel.

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

I think I'd rather just put on a pair of gloves, my thumbs were very sore after this review! lol

To be fair your comments on steering wheel feel are very much dependant on the car. A Lotus Elise/Exige for eg you feel everything to the point that running over aggressive saw tooth curbs is uncomfortable for your hands. A van, like my Volvo, I'm not surprised you feel nothing.

Wow.. hold on your cat 😂 climbing on your seat then on top of the screens 😂😂 proper distracted me

Came for the review, stayed for the cat

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Like most other viewers! lol

Great video bro I think the price absolutely kills it 🐱

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Agreed mate!

the cat destroying the chair!😁

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Yup!

Karl, I never have an issue with my DD1 quick release lol. I just place my foot on an anchor and am careful tugging it off. Sounds dirty, but that's it lol

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

hahaha perfect mate!

Thanks for your review. This looks great and probably the best looking wheel base, but for that price the pedals should have come included.

Know if a NLR Wheel Stand Lite would support the G Pro? Is it strong enough for. DD wheel?

Thank you for the review. Logitech is amazing when it comes to build quality and also with the software, so I am sure it is an amazing wheel. But yeah... it is not only ugly as heck... it just does not signal "Premium" and make me want to pay €1099. If it was €799 it would be in the mail...

@sermerlin1

Жыл бұрын

remember that's just for the wheel... Pedal set is another 300€ so it is 1400€ in total.

@RacingTherapy

Жыл бұрын

@@sermerlin1 1500€ total.. lol

@mikaelbackstrom

Жыл бұрын

@@sermerlin1 yeah. I do like that you can buy it with or without the pedals, but it is indeed too pricey.

@sermerlin1

Жыл бұрын

@@mikaelbackstrom I mean yeah... It's great that you can buy it separate but wheel should be 700e and pedals perhaps 300e... So that the whole bundle is 1000e. But like this they are selling them as separate entities and will confuse the heck out of a lot of shoppers when they see new logitech wheel box to just be hit with a shock "1000e for JUST a wheel?!"...

Hi Detailed Review Karl, which Wheel would you recommend me to buy for f1 22 (under 1500£)? Thanks

@KarlGosling

Жыл бұрын

Any of the big tried and tested brand would be fine mate, Simucube, Fanatec, etc.