I've been a skidder operator for the last 18 years and I would love to have one of these

I worked in the woods for 20 years and this is awsome

Steel Tracks seems to be a solution to many problems.

That's a sick barber chair @ 4:30!

I like how they destroyed the woods over a saw pine. I’d go nuts listening to tracks all day though

@taylorredmond643

3 жыл бұрын

Looks like a smooth ride though compared to rubber tire machine

Man I remember when Timberjack came out with their track skidder.

The traction - is insane!

@ACDC940

3 жыл бұрын

So is the maintenance cost

That’s A Badass Machine!

They are a beast with tracks. 😎👍

Commercial logging is much better today than it was before but that guy pulling that one tree out would get you shut down PA. Pa is big on not destroying whats around you that tree should have been bucked

@diy7594

4 ай бұрын

I was thinking same thing

I like the tracks for ground pressure and traction. That grapple works great with a feller buncher other wise cable and chokers would have a lot less damage to the woods.

@EL300B

8 ай бұрын

I used a Esco swinging grapple and considered it to cause less damage than cable and chokers.

It appears that all that has to be done is replace the wheel with a sprocket, and bolt the track assembly to the existing planetary housing. It looks like it makes for a much smoother ride over stumps and things than tires. I still use these same 648 H's. The Tiger Cats use the same rear ends as the John Deeres. John Deere builds them for Tiger Cat.

I ran a cable skidder in the mountains. I think rubber tires served me well. Never worked on really soft ground, just steep ground.

Do you offer tracks of different widths for really swampy conditions?

The green beast!!!

If they made sets that had 30 and 36 inch wide pads for the sandy swamps down in the deep south of the u.s. they could pick up lots of customers that do swamp logging or wetlands clear cutting 👍

@sherryneglia4804

Жыл бұрын

I belive they do offer ultra-LGP models. (ultra low ground pressure) aka wide tracks for swamp logging. I'd absolutely hate to be one of the guys that had to fix a thrown r busted track though!!! Lololol. Could you imagine? Omg you'd be dragging it back out to the landing for sure. Then you'll need an excavator and a crane to fix it

Wonder how those tracks would do on the P.buncher steep ground an all ??

Idk y this was recommended...but this kinda dope ngl

Here in California we can’t even brush up against standing trees, let alone knock them down while skidding. Lol.

How many hours does the tracks and under carriage get on them before replaceing them

@michellepugh2859

4 жыл бұрын

The way they flop up and down I would say the operator needs to take special care and not be hauling ass or something is definitely gonna break

can it be installed on winch skidder only?

Use this skidder to pull wood up steep hills or through wet area's up to where a wheel skidder can take it to the landing. I've been stuck on steep slopes with a rubber tire skidder but with these tracks I could pull wood up steep wet ground with ease.

@leehetzel579

2 жыл бұрын

Git it

We found them 18-20% more expensive to run, but beats the hell out of not working. Nice to have an income while your competitor sits at home.

What's the life expectancy of a set of rails on that? Can you get 2000?

Rockand Stick guards on the lower boogie wheels, Maybe ? They keep the rocks out but they rock in also. Those nasty sticks work through way through the seals.

@brentpeters6235

4 жыл бұрын

What!?

Looks to me like those skidder drivers need to be filling that wet hole in with those pine tops and making them a pad.

@diy7594

4 ай бұрын

I always tried to run down the high spots on my skid road instead of running in same ruts every trip always had a hell of a time trieng to teach guys that

@scottweber8376

4 күн бұрын

Thats what i was saying.

They actually might keep from rutting up people's land. Tires leave some major holes for the land owner to deal with for years.

The traction is unbelievable, just curious though mate , is the wear and tear expenses, fuel etc per month or year comparable to rubber tyres?, anyhow I loved this video 10/10.

@Rob-yd5fb

Жыл бұрын

We are doing several studies at the University of Idaho Experimental Forest comparing these tracks with rubber-tired grapple skidders in the inland northwest. Should have some answers for you on those questions soon!

Great solution!! Maybe costly but productive!!!

The narrow tracks are not going to make it when it starts raining?

Definitely bad ass

Looks a lot like the same setup Timberjack used years ago on their steel track machines.

How do they hold up if you hit a stump?

@gordangrden2091

4 жыл бұрын

they break watch video kzread.info/dash/bejne/dXao1tSIoKzRpZM.html

Do you know if that is like a bolt on kit or did it come like that?

@ghostdevill

4 жыл бұрын

It looks to me that these are bolt on kits! The tracks look a lot like a sourcy track but then this is metal and heavier!

Tearing down a lot of young trees to get one big one, will they pick those up I wonder?

@rorschacht8478

3 жыл бұрын

Does it matter?

@randysingleton4343

Жыл бұрын

Yes it matter num skull

@benchaney773

Жыл бұрын

@@randysingleton4343 explain to me why it matters

@madiabu3282

Жыл бұрын

You are sooo clever my friend,so why don't you suggest a way to get the big one without harming the small one!!

@-mike--m-9629

3 ай бұрын

​@@madiabu3282 fall it in the right direction. The cutter had the logs crossed up.

This is awesome. Does it make for a better ride? I know regular skidders and cat skidding is rough and bouncy. Looks like this helps a lot.

@notoriouselwood9253

4 жыл бұрын

Kevin Allen It is an incredibly good ride. Undulating road surface, rocks up to, shoot, a basketball? like size? Yep. 20 to 25 mph over level terrain. On better roads, the rubbered up fellas can outrun me. But, the FMC’s are “king of the hills”. Grades as steep as 60degrees are easily climbed. My machine carries just under 1000 gallons. The water bottle’s air pocket near the cap, does not touch the cap while climbing that steep. The steeper the terrain, the getter an FMC looks. Well, you know, unless I’m running the FMC! Then, even, Dale Earnhardt would rather concede than take likkin like that! 😝 🤩🤫🤑💪☠️

@williamoutlaw5558

2 жыл бұрын

well its not for riding better its all for Alleviating Ground Pressure so the machine will run on top ofthe ground instead of making BUTTHOLE DEEP RUTS as a rubber tire is famous for,also as previously stated the tracks willing maximize TRACTION, ESPECIALLY IF YOU DRIVE IT ON THE DEBRI AND THE LIMBS AND TOPS THAT ARE LEFT BEHIND.

wait till you get on a rocky hill them tracks are going to start sliding

@notoriouselwood9253

4 жыл бұрын

Preston Barnett yep, find “Miss Jimi” a firefighting FMC220, on youtube, watch her vids of some treacherous rocky slopes. And pay attention to the rocky slopes that she regularly and reliably packed water to the hotshot and contract ground crews. Enjoy!

Look at the barber chair. Atleast cut the slavaughn off. Lol

Stålband slits väldigt fort.

Wonder how they would do on a filabuncher

@sherryneglia4804

Жыл бұрын

If your still running a rubber tired feller buncher I'd say time to upgrade to track type my friend...my husband runs circles around rubber tire models with his 552

Man you get A camper put on that chassi there is all most no where you couldn't camp... great video 👍👍👍👍

Works good in the hills.. but impress me by using them in the swamps of Hyde county North Carolina...

@notoriouselwood9253

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent, sir. I shall prep the 210 and impatiently, await the transport. A few weeks should set that muddied bog back to to some measure of civility.

Its like rebuilding not one but 2 dozer under carages every other year

POR LO QUE SE VE hay un mal uso y planificacion del trabajo xq destrozan muchos arboles para sacar uno., ademas si tenemos en cuenta el consumo de gasoil maquina y personal ese arbol que sacan sale carisimo,

CGI is so good these days Jesus this looks so real!

I guess this is a converted wheel driven skidder? How was the output speed of the final drive sped up to give the skidder a similar travelling speed?

@reverandhale863

4 жыл бұрын

It honestly looks like they just changed the outsides of the axles out so they would ge sprockets instead of just kind of like a hub

@rankhornjp

4 жыл бұрын

They look similar to Mattracks for atvs and they reduce speed by 1/3. If to speed is 60, it reduces that to 45.

@gordangrden2091

4 жыл бұрын

@@rankhornjp speed is reduced but torque is increased, now it goes like a tank :)

@notoriouselwood9253

3 жыл бұрын

Center of hub measured out to track or tread is nearly identical, if measured vertically to ground. Ground speed differential will be nominal.

@donmathias1705

3 жыл бұрын

@@notoriouselwood9253 Do they change the planetary drive units to a faster output?

Kool you guys reinvented the FMC skidder... now ask why no one wants one? cheaper and better solution is to throw some brush in the wet spots, or I don't know drive around them?

@notoriouselwood9253

4 жыл бұрын

northman logging yep, those that cant figure out an FMC, usually, have nothing but negative to say. I can build the road that would bring your machine to work, I can retrieve timber that you would have to watch a helicopter recover, I can climb a grade so steep that an Ibex might vomit from inclination, and i can run 20 to 25 mph down the road, up the hill and across the meadows(with less damage in my mirror than you, even if your parked). But, i get it, sometimes lack of talent is cause for insult. But, thats 👍 ok, we both know who can be relied upon to pick up the mess left behind by the ignorant. C U on da’ mountain. 😆

@northmanlogging2769

4 жыл бұрын

@@notoriouselwood9253 not an insult to the FMC or it operators, though if ya own one my condolences on your maintenance bill, just seeing folks reinvent for a solution that no one needs is kinda silly, not to mention the cost of those track converters has got to be extraordinary

@notoriouselwood9253

4 жыл бұрын

@@northmanlogging2769 and I humbly offer my apology, I was rather combative. I must admit that I personally have not had to endure any costly repairs, or extraordinary maintenance needs. But, I am not, typically, in the day to day battle of cost vs revenue. I have the extraordinary priveledge of, and for lack of a better description, "showing off" with a well maintained and low hour machine. I enjoy it, its extremely capable, and it affords me bragging rights in most venues. I got belligerent in my jest. Thank you for a mild? Response to my arrogance. For the moment, Aloha 😎

@notoriouselwood9253

4 жыл бұрын

And thanks for suffering through the video. After all, we came here to enjoy the show! LOL

@northmanlogging2769

4 жыл бұрын

@@notoriouselwood9253 no worries, everybody a little defensive lately lol those FMC's are cool when they are taken care of, lots of moving parts in em though

I love green skiders sense they where orange i ran 360 and 460s they where tippy on side but up and down streight fw they would impress me

💪💪💪👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥

did You consider putting bulldozer blade on front of the machine?

Just put swamp pads and you can skid logs in quicksand :D

♥ 4 any "articulated" vehicles...

@robertreeves2118

2 жыл бұрын

They are available for all John Deere and Tigercat skidders. We also have them for JD and Tigercat Wheel Fellerbunchers and Wheeled Mulchers.

just like t-34 soviet tank perfect powerrrr

Seems a little much when you can either run duals or just drop a load of pine down in those soft spots. The upkeep n repair bill when them tracks get messed up.. plus the added time involved vs tires really doesn't seem worth it

@DClairRobinson

4 жыл бұрын

Duals are wide, and tires go flat. There are advantages and disadvantages to either setup

Seems like trouble in the making. I am referring to the open sprocket and large diameter sprocket where trees can get in there needs a more closed plated area.

@CutterRossman

4 ай бұрын

I’d imagine there would still be ruts but they would most likely go deeper into the ground with less width but easier to manage nonetheless the less

Doesn't look like they have a differential

Does the tracks were out fast

I want drive that too I like thing

Looks bad ass but expensive

@315logger6

4 жыл бұрын

Tracks or chained up all 4 don't see a difference. And no high speed to this with tracks.

It works as long as it's cost effective...how much? Tires get chewed up in that environment & if they're like fertilizer spreader tires, they ain't cheap, time down etc. This is a beast but looks like 1mil$ at least. That's a lot of tree's...

Pra andar aqui nas ruas do Brasil seria perfeito esse lugar que o trator tá passando aí tá melhor que muita rodovia por aqui

Cost of sitting home when woods wet compared to timber man giving u the big money making jobs..well worth the cost.

@miguelgaviria5836

4 жыл бұрын

Whatever gibberish you said inspired me young man

A 635 tigercat with duals all the way around would eat that little 648 for lunch. But it is a nice concept looks to me that the pads need to be a bit wider for more flotation. 👍

@historicbeef

2 жыл бұрын

Width might be an issue with the tigercat. I like this concept, i am not sure i would use it. Year round. You know, more like a back pocket option..

@jaredreeves273

2 жыл бұрын

I'm afraid you couldn't be more wrong with that assumption. Pardon me for saying so but I've seen these in action. It's just not a correct statement. Hope you have a great day sir

@sharpshooter7127

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaredreeves273 Let's just agree that they both have their advantages and disadvantages. You have a good day also 👍

I have four of these tracks if you would like to buy them.

@chrishuge2497

Жыл бұрын

How much

@wildcatwilly

Жыл бұрын

@@chrishuge2497 reasonable just contact me

W ile godzi❤😂😂n się robiliście tego z kibla czy kupiliście już takiego tego średnica😮 gąsienicach😮 znaczy

😮

In stead of buying a track cutter due to poor ground condition

That thing put a dozer operator out of work lol

Someone needs to teach him how to run a Skidder ;)

@jamespotter9148

4 жыл бұрын

Theirs always that one guy on every video that has to say your doing it wrong

@rogerl8488

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamespotter9148 he I bet he is a guy that dt get off the dam couch!!!!

@johnmorris7960

4 жыл бұрын

Why, he is doing a good job of taking out the little trees too.

Do you think LGP tracks would be even better. Just wondering. They do seem to help the dozer. So why not the skidder . It would help to keep it from maring down in the mud so bad. Anyway tracks are a good idea. 😃👍

@Deere2154D

4 жыл бұрын

Lgp and swamp pads.

@notoriouselwood9253

3 жыл бұрын

I am not familiar with the Timberjack, but the FMC210 has ground pressure of less than 7 psi. That is not enuff to burst a water bottle on most terrain.

No dought great for spring wouldent want to run all year and mantainence nightmare im shure i could see spending lots of time and $ but they get you threw the spring

How much does the conversion cost and how many hours do they last?

@glynjordan7310

4 жыл бұрын

Please see the G&R Manufactured Solutions website for contact information

Logger wade, you need to try these.

@keepersboy

4 жыл бұрын

Is he still even alive ???? seens some of his felling videos.... good god

@crazyfarmer2564

4 жыл бұрын

Yes.

It drives right over them tops well id be alert to big buts geting cought behing drive wheel

Варварский способ вывоза . Столько молодняка погубил чтобы вывезти одно дерево.

@user-ou3em5sw2h

3 жыл бұрын

А ты знаеш другие способы?

These would be good for steep hills. Waste of money running these tracks on flat ground where tires are cheaper and much faster.

Allegro filmy OD JCB

besser wären Reifen vorne und Ketten Hinten

I want one

@DannyAllen10271966

4 жыл бұрын

$300,000 and you can have one..

expensive as a dry gold

Trees what trees.

I want that too I drive that in street but I don't have hundred dollars thousand for that

@DannyAllen10271966

4 жыл бұрын

Lol... Add $200,000 more they have gone outrageous on price... Seems everyone thinks they are Richard Rollins...

Bound to have issues on steep , rocky ground .

@EL300B

8 ай бұрын

Timberjack made a skidder just like that years ago that they reccommended especially for steep, rocky ground.

Looks expensive

A kto ma takiego skidra😊❤ 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

Geezuz buck it at a over length so u can get out easier. 14 yrs as former BC Canada logger.

I'm a tree hugger by no means, but if that were my bush, I'd be a little bit disappointed by the collateral damage caused by today's get in and get out commercial loggers. Which is why I'll likely never have my property cut.

@StumpjumperVideosPA

4 жыл бұрын

ya hopefully it a clear cut and they,ll gather the smashed stuff up ! all they need to do is bunch it in a strait line & cut the tops out of the big ones !

@jadeolin8514

4 жыл бұрын

It really depends on who you hire to log ur property. Get someone with a decent rep and tell them you don't want ur woods destroyed, if they are decent they will try and accommodate. It most likely will not pay as well as a run and gun operation but if keeping your woods in tact is a priority you have to give up something.

@herbhouston5378

4 жыл бұрын

I don't what they may tell you they'll do to "repair it"... it will NEVER be the same... Every aspect of the land will be forever changed... In a manner of speaking... that's just raping the land! Take... Take... Take... 😞

@StumpjumperVideosPA

4 жыл бұрын

@@herbhouston5378 sir do you use forest products ? they don't come from the store , please get with a logger and get informed please ! you might really be surprised !

@nicke1903

4 жыл бұрын

@@StumpjumperVideosPA no he don't, not at all. Irresponsible Forestry Management causes CA to burn like crazy as well.

Why

I know there’s a time and place for these but not all of the time. Too much steel on steel. We run 535s and only get 1 1/2 years out of our ring chains. That’s 10,000 $ for all four every year and a half for just chains. These things have to be double that price I would assume.

Manque deprience!!!!

As a Forest Harvester Operator I will never understand the use of Skidders in thinning jobs. They destroy all the new growth and make the thinning useless. Might as well just clear cut everywhere a skidder is used. Harvester heads and forwarders would be so much more efficient. Sure some places might want full length trees but you would have so much more timber to work with if you didn't destroy all the new growth. Granted this is coming from someone who has been working in a country that actually tries to preserve it's forests.

@EL300B

8 ай бұрын

Careful operators and proper trail layout can make a world of difference. In my opinion the worst problem with rubber tire skidders is soil compaction.

I bet she is heavy

Love to see how they work in 20 below 0, with 3feet of snow and ice on the ground, no better place to try them ,

travail de saccageurs de forêts ! il bousille les jeunes pousses

Qué sinsentido, para sacar un árbol, destruyen varios árboles.

Those trax are a good idea but running them that hard and fast they proble will not last a month.

Auto B. Arrested for destruction of forest.

dommage du beau matériel comme sa pour le cassé et cassé la foret

All good until it gets a little wear and track pops off in the worst possible spot

Enemy of nature

@notoriouselwood9253

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I do concur. Earth first! we can log the other planets later.