I wouldn’t sleep a wink knowing Alan Jackson has three days to prep his cross exam of me. 😂

@nishamack586

14 күн бұрын

He is going to either her into oblivion 😂

@marcopalazzo9349

14 күн бұрын

Get them ice cube because he is going to destroy her back end come Tuesday

@wonder5487

14 күн бұрын

I agree. Actually think this may work in his favor. He has several days to go line by line through her testimony and point out any inconsistencies there may be and show receipts otherwise. The prosecution made a big mistake stalling so much, I think. Especially since their case seems to hinge so much on what she testifies to.

@Danielle33384

14 күн бұрын

I can’t wait 😂

@laurawarren2801

14 күн бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. 🤣 It’s gonna be brutal.

14 days in (2 weeks) and the prosecution has convinced me that it was snowing

@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy

13 күн бұрын

And how long it takes to drive to Fairview from the Waterfall.

@Mbfranks

11 күн бұрын

Haha! At this point I can testify in this case cause I remember this storm and it was snowing 😅

@LeiLeiPhD

11 күн бұрын

And it wasn’t that bad when they say it was soooo idk about the severity at the time they said. Just trying to point out how terrible this all is! Breaks my heart!

@j50wells

3 күн бұрын

They convinced me that there are a lot of cars over at the Alberts place. They are coming and going at all hours. I think this cop might be a drug dealer.

@claudiaramos4273

3 күн бұрын

And that everyone was drinking!

She just found her boyfriend in the snow and her “friends” call her bat shit crazy??? WTF

@karigann9047

13 күн бұрын

That's exactly what I was thinking!! Wow

@loriduffecy9205

13 күн бұрын

Don't think they were ever her friends....no compassion whatsoever

@emilyreed7611

13 күн бұрын

The amount of times JM relayed that they told their ”girlfriend” in crisis to “shut up” and “sit down” had me cringing, too. You might think that there was some preexisting animosity and that they wernt girlfriends at all.

@Rambo-John-J

13 күн бұрын

@@emilyreed7611 I thought the same thing about telling her to shut up multiple times also in Matt McCabe’s testimony he was worried about Karen waking up the whole neighborhood in my mind. He probably just didn’t want anybody else to hear what she was saying.

@PettyBeee

12 күн бұрын

She was drunk as all get out and kept screaming I HIT HIM I HIT HIM I HIT HIM!!!!!! Are y’all even paying attention??? GEEZ!!!

JMs most telling text was at 4:59am where she texts John's phone to say "Karen is worried we need to find you" We need to "find you"???? Who says that to someone they are trying to get a hold of? Find you? If she didn't know what had happened to John, wouldn't her text read more like "Karen is worried can you please get in touch" or "...please call"? Wouldn't that be the logical thing to say??? Find you??? I've NEVER texted my son that whenever I can't get a hold of him. I tell him to call ASAP not "I need to find you" WTH

@skepticalkat4651

14 күн бұрын

I found that to be very odd phrasing as well. "Where are you?" "Karen is worried," "please call"- something like that, sure, but "we need to *find* you," struck me as strange.

If I was a juror, I would have a hard time sending someone to jail when the investigation was shot from the beginning

@blakebamf

14 күн бұрын

What investigation? 🥴

@origamikiddo2625

14 күн бұрын

Yeah, at this point Jenn's testimony (no cross yet) might give us a reason why they thought Karen, but so far it's the worst of one person who has reason to lie if it was something else and all other evidence has been suspect cuz of the bias from Canton PD and Proctor

@AmandaLeigh1004

14 күн бұрын

I'm with you, I'm not sure if the blood "evidence" is going to come in again, like if they tested it at all, but once I saw blood in red solo cups I was like "that's it, my doubt is completely reasonable, I don't know how I'm supposed to get beyond that."

@miaknig3130

14 күн бұрын

​@@blakebamfperfect reply! This town is making Reno 911 look like the epitome of consummate professionals lol.

@miaknig3130

14 күн бұрын

​@@AmandaLeigh1004and the fact that a detective who was told not to delete or alter his phone in any way, traded his phone in and said he didn't know better. I know better just from watching old SVU repeats.

All I took from Jen’s testimony was how unkind and exploitative and with zero empathy she showed to not only Karen’s anguish, but ultimately to John’s death. Bizarre couple.

@raelinencinas

14 күн бұрын

Jen McCabe had an almost disgusted reaction towards KR being emotional. It was so weird!

@MimiDidi121

14 күн бұрын

It was like she forgot to look sympathetic then tried to muster up some tears! I may be wrong, but that’s how I took it.

@MimiDidi121

14 күн бұрын

@@raelinencinasI hated how she kept mocking or reenacting the way KR kept calling her name. What’s funny is she said she kept yelling Jen Jen Jen, but then when they show the video footage of them at the house getting out of the car, and going in the house, it’s crickets. You don’t hear her shouting or screaming so the only evidence we have of her behavior that night was caught on camera, and it is completely opposed to what Jen was saying on the witness stand. That’s kind of shady too, as she went and looked for“the guy”. Why would her husband say the guy was never in the house? When they all knew him as a friend? Wouldn’t he say “remember, everyone needs to say John was never in the house”?

@Always_Thinking

14 күн бұрын

JM is an evil, arrogant narcissist. I do feel bad that she has MS but she clearly understands all of the vulnerabilities that are part of the disease. She weaponized these vulnerabilities against Karen to manipulate her. This is the very reason KR was not even close to being "friends" with JM & would never have engaged in "girl talk" with her. KR did not even have her phone number! IMO JM had a crush on OJO & resented Karen when she reentered OJO's life & all of his attention was on his KR & the children!

@tinahansen932

14 күн бұрын

With friends like these, no wonder KR snuffed at having a strong support system.

She made coffee in the middle of an emergency situation? Ok.

@sweetpea6179

13 күн бұрын

Also why did she make Karen fetch her. Why did she not get into her car. Why go to JO’s house to search the rooms? I just don’t believe her narrative

@Rambo-John-J

13 күн бұрын

Just a hunch, but I think Jen McCabe wanted to go look for John at his house so that she could pick up the broken pieces of tail light. Then when she was the first one to enter the Albert home, she probably gave the pieces to Brian, and they started working on their story because the Alberts never came outside their house to see what was going on that day

@LinTrueCrimeProject

13 күн бұрын

@@Rambo-John-J that's pretty good, totally believable. She orchestrated the whole thing

As much as everyone wants justice, or John O’Keefe, Justice will not be served by putting the wrong person behind bars.

@miaknig3130

12 күн бұрын

It seems like there won't be justice unless there is some confession or secrets revealed.

I can see why Karen didn’t want to go back to the house and continue partying with these a$$holes!

@dr.amytanner

14 күн бұрын

Totally!

@TalktoKel

14 күн бұрын

Massholes!

@hippiechick3829

14 күн бұрын

Or ever have a close relationship with any of them even prior to this horrific situation!

@Jack-bc5xg

14 күн бұрын

Then why drive there?

@LalliPop-What-If-Any

14 күн бұрын

100%. Poor John trusted that these "brothers" were the real deal... that is the saddest part. But they will pay the price for their actions. Mother Justice will have a heavy hand for them!

How awful that he called Officer John O'Keefe "the guy".

@maycronin1188

14 күн бұрын

Similar to his wife's 911 call

@SydneyCollin

14 күн бұрын

but, but, but we are good friends! 🙃

@bwaygal4905

14 күн бұрын

Agreed - just shameful. And after he texted (PARAPHRASED) "tell them the guy never went in the house," for the reply to be "exactly." WHAT The What? The only way that reply makes sense is that the recipient is agreeing, and saying: "yep, that's EXACTLY what we need to say." In many ways this text response: "exactly" is the most blatant evidence (IMO) that points out the lying and deceit, and flat out Getting Our Stories Straight that went on in this case. This honestly makes my stomach hurt: the corruption and incompetence involved in this case and the investigation. Just appalling.

@whoopsydaisy6389

14 күн бұрын

Cops usually speak about a fallen officer like he's sainted and holds the keys to heaven. The total lack of regard and borderline animosity this group of individuals shows for John isn't exactly convincing me of their innocence. I'd really like to hear the truth about why they don't seen to care that he's dead. It can't be that he's dirty because they're "allegedly" all dirty. Did he turn somebody in?

@farraharledge7795

14 күн бұрын

I hate that they don’t refer to him as officer in court.

These disparaging comments about Karen are bugging me. She realized that her boyfriend is dead and she is not supposed to be frantic??? IF Jen is lying, she is very comfortable doing so and well prepared. Also, I cannot WAIT for the defense to introduce the autopsy pics. Apparently the State is scared to show them to the jury.

@DamnitDana

14 күн бұрын

Exactly this! Karen isn’t screaming like a crazy person in the Ring garage footage so we are to believe she was psycho, chilled out, went psycho? No. I don’t think she really lost it until she saw John and understandably started screaming and trying to save him.

@RyanBlackhawke

14 күн бұрын

I cannot WAIT for Yanetti to eat Proctor for lunch. Oh, Proctor is under investigation for his actions during the investigation.

@suzygordon2331

13 күн бұрын

lol that is the state's strongest evidence. The pieces of the car are on his body, along with the broken glass, which is embedded in the bumper.

@katchristensen4211

13 күн бұрын

​@@suzygordon2331.. When Karens suv was towed from her parents house in Dighton the tow truck driver said there was no damage to her suv. He only takes pictures of the vehicles he is towing if it has any damage so he has proof and the owner can't blame rhe tow company for said damage. This tow truck driver is testifying. There is video of Karens vehicle taillight of being entact from video at her parents. This will be in evidence too. The FBI hired independent experts about the suv. Their findings are the injuries aren't consistent with being hit by the suv. He wasn't hit by the suv and the suv wasn't hit with john. Then there's a witness of the suv being pulled into the gally at the police station and there were the police officers alone for a good 45 minutes and the video from the tume they pulled it in until the officers came out the video is missing.. 🙄 That's all 🎤

@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy

13 күн бұрын

The autopsy does not state anything about pieces of anything on his body. Why make things up?

How on gods green earth was this case not thrown out and dismissed with prejudice?

@loriduffecy9205

13 күн бұрын

Waste of tax payer time and money 🤑💰

@rickjason215

13 күн бұрын

You have a highly biased judge. I would not be surprised if she limits the Defense.

@suzygordon2331

12 күн бұрын

because a drunk psycho woman killed her boyfriend and is now blaming 12 different people but shes not sure which one lol

@alehitya

12 күн бұрын

​@suzygordon2331, are you serious? Do you know how to think for yourself, or are you a bootlicker? Where is the proof? Just use common sense, the injuries don't add up. Where are the broken bones? Why is everyone hiding their ring doorbell footage? If they just used that, it would be a slam dunk case if she really did it. "Just tell them the GUY never came in the house." Go do 24 mph in reverse in 60 feet in the snow, NOT POSSIBLE!

@TKE1009

12 күн бұрын

@@suzygordon2331 "Nope" (Trooper Proctor), lol.

The group text of "the GUY never came inside" is very telling. How incredibly cold, getting their stories straight & why they never came out - no one gave a F. My heart breaks for OKeefe family. Both JO & KR deserved better.

@ajwysopal

14 күн бұрын

🚨🚨🚨49:40 she said she had a "cracked" taillight....... So how in the hell did 40+ pieces of her taillight get by John's body?!?!?!...... That alone seems to me to be enough showing the police at the very minimum helped there case along by staging up evidence to make karen look guilty. I hope the defense heard this part like I did and brings it up on Tuesday. Because that's a huge part of the cw case. The pieces of taillight. 💯💯💯💯🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨

@MSpruce90

14 күн бұрын

And he claimed Chris Albert had channel 4 come and ask about the case...on February 1st. Which, I believe, is the same day Karen was arrested... which none of this stuff was out at all in the public. No fingers were pointed at the Albert's at this point.. not to mention Chris Albert wasn't even at the house.. why would the news ask him, of all people.. and also, why did they have a group text discussing it? If it was the truth, why discuss it at all? It's all so sketchy.

@carrieheckman4570

14 күн бұрын

Exactly - he was a friend and you refer to him as "the guy"??

@monkeybizz-151

14 күн бұрын

@@ajwysopal Jen’s testimony said “a couple” of pieces missing. That definitely does not add up to all the pieces they said were found at the scene.

@24-hours-in

14 күн бұрын

It seems weirdly convenient that the one person who heard KR say she hit JO is the same person who searched Hos long to die in cold? And seemingly happened to be running a parallel investigation getting screenshots etc.

He could hear KR outside their house yelling, thought she would wake up neighborhood. But they didn't hear her outside at Alberts house with KR screaming more, with police & ambulance & firetrucks .... sure!

@YolyW66

14 күн бұрын

And the dog!! Yea right.

@Alwayslearning56

14 күн бұрын

Yea. According to Jen Karen was screaming for a straight hour. Loud enough to wake the neighborhood and the dead and not one person in the Albert home heard her? Seriously? No dog heard it? No dog barked when Jen went busting in the bedroom? I call a big pile of BS Jen. Stop it.

@suzygordon2331

14 күн бұрын

huh

@limasierra6639

14 күн бұрын

Good point

@Foxsuper1

14 күн бұрын

why would jen be telling them to park here or there or anything? what are the texts for?

The other weird part is that these ladies did not comfort Karen. They didn’t reassure her. They told her to shut up? Such weird behavior.

@Heatherdm

12 күн бұрын

I agree. Lack of empathy from all. They all seem angry. Maybe from media coverage

@user-yj8un2me3s

12 күн бұрын

Yes! They wanted her to be quiet to bring less attention from neighbors and such. If those were my friends I wouldn’t care how loud my friend was. I would be crying an screaming with her.

@brandybiscoff9685

12 күн бұрын

The husband told his wife to tell her to shut up, and no one knew John was dead yet (except Karen which is why she was freaking out.) To say they didn’t comfort her isn’t true, especially once John was discovered & once EMTs were on scene. They held her hand and prayed with her, amongst other things. But KR was obviously acting hysterical, and it’s difficult to deal with a person in that state, she was making saving John more difficult with her hysteria. She was literally straddling John, didn’t even wipe the snow off his face. Meanwhile the other 2 ladies were taking rational steps to actually help- calling 911, getting blankets, telling Karen to get off of John so they could wipe snow off his face and do compressions/CPR, the list goes on.

@astrialindah2773

11 күн бұрын

​@@Heatherdmwell there was no media coverage the night of John O'Keefe's murder.....🙄

@beverlybwilliams

11 күн бұрын

No empathy for Karen, who are they protecting?

So what doesn’t sit right with me regarding her testimony is so you see them pull up and text him here? Then you repeatedly text him with no response, so you invite him, give him directions but when he arrives and is sitting outside you don’t walk out to see what’s going on? I absolutely don’t believe that for one second! She doesn’t walk out 15 feet but will assist in a search at 5am it’s strange.

@loriduffecy9205

13 күн бұрын

Ditto...if I saw my friends sitting out front ....I would run out to see why they weren't coming in???🤔

@suzygordon2331

12 күн бұрын

instead of analyzing the witness why don't you analyze your cult queen Karens behavior lol

@nataliaa1738

12 күн бұрын

@@suzygordon2331 so did I say whether or not I believe she did it anywhere in my statement NO! I’m listening to both sides with an open mind. I was stating that I thought that whole part of her testimony was odd. I’ll wait to hear facts before I decide not a witnesses account of what someone may or may not have said or done

@astrialindah2773

11 күн бұрын

I'm wondering if Jen didn't lure him out there knowing exactly what was going to happen. That chick is cold-hearted and scary, 👹

Larry Foreman (DUI GUY+) was in the courtroom Wednesday and said the jury appears to be with the defense. Said they literally rolled their eyes at witnesses saying I don't recall

@rkc8588

14 күн бұрын

Wow thanks for sharing

@Jacksoncoquoc

14 күн бұрын

😮

@Seasheasells

14 күн бұрын

Yes thanks for sharing haven’t heard any feedback on jury

@lynmarie1786

14 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing

@ksjmward1998

14 күн бұрын

Pretty much like the internet jury everytime the prosecution is going over the same irrelevant questions 😂

The period blood comment was soooo cringe and a clear tactic to embarrass/humiliate Karen. I don’t believe she said that for one second.

@sallycinnamon5370

14 күн бұрын

And if she did. Doesn’t that lead you to believe that she was insensible and frantically trying to make sense of the worlds in her mind.

@beachgirl468

14 күн бұрын

Yea, what the heck was that bs statement??? I don't believe she said it either.....it's not like she hasn't had a period for years and doesn't know her body's pattern, symptoms, etc. Ridiculous....

@suzygordon2331

14 күн бұрын

Karen's flying monkeys are out tonight

@sv7544

14 күн бұрын

How could period blood get on the Face ID a woman fully dressed in winter clothes and pants etc? Just soooo Ridiculous and 100 percent unbelievable. Insane. Jenn is so mad bc her life is rejoined bc of her lies. Whole town knows she’s a lying liar that lies now the world will.

@Cali.law-nerd

14 күн бұрын

If she did say that it just proves she was in shock and out of her mind with panic/grief. Unlike McCabe, who supposedly was his friend.

Real nice friend, telling her to shut up when she can’t find her significant other

Peter I tried to go into this trial unbiased. I pulled myself up every time I felt I was leaning one way. But after these past few days with all the lies the “Albert clan” have been caught out on I’ve just switched off to believing anything any of them say, I’m done. There’s just been way too much inconsistency way too much antagonism and way too much forgetfulness and lack of concern for John despite him having been a “friend” and a “good guy” I don’t believe anything they’re saying now !

@annm9589

12 күн бұрын

I have been open minded... but I'll be honest when I heard the MM testimony and he texted about "the man" I had a hard time listening to any of his wife's testimony. I'll listen, of course, but this is weak due to witness credibility for CW at this point for me.

@Objection_23and1

11 күн бұрын

Same 😭

Jen McCabe’s testimony was the worst for me of the entire, bizarre group. Her constant imitation of KR screaming was indescribably heartless and made her look like a witch. I barely heard a word she said and the horrible statement she attributed to KR about why she had blood on her hands was not only cruel and weird, it was offensive to me as a woman. This trial is gross. I don’t even know at this point if KR is the one who brought John to the house, that’s how confused I am right now. I am almost always on LE’s side and came in to this trial open minded. After today, I don’t think I can be convinced of anything except that for some reason, the McCabe klan conspired to hide something. I don’t know if it is a murder they are trying to hide but I am sure they are hiding something nefarious.

@sarah29880

14 күн бұрын

I thought this too. I kept thinking and she said they were friends?? She tried to make her look “crazy” after she was having the worst day of her life. What if it was Jen’s husband? She just tries to do one insult to her after another . What a cold heartless bitch. Feel bad for her kids, if she is this cold to an ex-friend who’s husband died and she was there and witnessed everything without even a shed of tear

@bethmccrae2714

14 күн бұрын

You are biased. Why?

@kandykaye9981

14 күн бұрын

@@bethmccrae2714 I’m completely unbiased. I’m watching the trial like everyone else and the only bias I have is I’m biased toward justice.

@timbercoffee

14 күн бұрын

Honestly if Karen really asked if the blood on her hands was from her period, then doesn't that go to her being out of her mind with grief and confusion? Doesn't it go against relying on "I hit him" as proof of guilt?

@sarah29880

14 күн бұрын

@@timbercoffee yeah can’t believe anything Jen actually says, but if so she was in complete shock and denial and was literally the only one acting like she cared IMO. I can’t even finish listening to her testimony cuz it’s so heartless. But it’s a really good point she wasn’t in the right state of mind/denial/shock/confusion

This judge rushing the defense bothers me. Lally rambles on about so much inconsequential stuff, but tells defense to move on

@tmhamer3086

14 күн бұрын

Right! Like asking EVERY witness about the snow, where they sat at a sporting event, where their kids sat during the sporting event. It’s all irrelevant information. Except the weather- a couple witnesses asked about the weather would have been sufficient especially because of the cop dash cam.😂

@HopeForUs5

14 күн бұрын

That drives me crazy too! She treats the defense with barely disguised disgust, and never "overrules" the prosecution - she says "I'll let him have that one" like she's doing some big favor instead of following law! She should never be the judge for this case.

@GrumpyGirlProductions

14 күн бұрын

⁠@@HopeForUs5yes. the “i’ll let him have that one” reeks of bias. has she ever said that in regards to the prosecution?

@Forakus

14 күн бұрын

You guys are so perceptive, I never even made that connection but it's so obvious now!

@sandrasomewhere

14 күн бұрын

The prosecution can talk about who was drinking what and where and what the scores of the basketball game was ad nauseam but let's hurry it along, Defense Team! 🙄

@LYK Matt McCabe 7:39 - as a KZread juror with no case knowledge: when KR attorney calls him out for the smiling and for his evasiveness, Matt M comes across as arrogant, smug, and lying. He is not used to having anyone call him out on this behavior and that is where the smile comes from, it's passive aggressive behavior. The smile was as if he was saying "can you believe this guy!" He mumbled a few things under his breath while on the stand. He did this throughout his cross on questions that he did not want to answer. It felt like he needed to dodge the truth and stick to one narrative instead of answering the question truthfully. It's shameful because he could have been a very useful witness for discovering the truth, regardless which side called him. Instead of serving a hidden agenda that he has or his family has. I hope he isn't naive enough to actually believe that he fooled anyone because everyone on TV and in the courtroom saw right through this.

At the beginning of Jennifer’s testimony I started to like her and then when I heard her distain over how Karen was freakin out and screaming I immediately disliked her and thought she is just like the rest of them. She is a liar and colluded with the others to get their story straight. Glad I don’t have friends like her! Also thankful she wasn’t having to look in lawns or ditches for her loved one…

@thesilverladylifts2708

3 күн бұрын

She shows all her bottom teeth when she’s backed into a corner.

The way she says, "Jen, Jen", each and every time, sounds so venomous. No compassion about what her "friend" is going through.

@ConservativeWoman35

14 күн бұрын

Totally agree

@Always_Thinking

14 күн бұрын

I thought I would lose my mind with JM implying KR was like a non-stop raving, out of control, crazy person. No one else said that & it wasn't in any videos. The way JM kept throwing out women's names who OJO dated in the past to try & push the notion OJO was out cheating was done to hurt Karen..imo

@notnow7973

14 күн бұрын

@@Always_Thinkingtruly astonishing testimony. Wow. Vindictive and cruel. Lacking ALL decency.

@Aunt_Betty

14 күн бұрын

She’s a sociopath, like Colin.

@JWildberry

14 күн бұрын

The first time she said it, she adjusted her voice to make Karen sound worse. She added screech. That stuck out to me.

I thought Karen and Jenn were friends. With friends like that, you don’t need enemies.

@bettycattk5298

14 күн бұрын

Reminds me of Martha Stewart’s friend who helped to send her to prison for a year. You said it!!!

@loriduffecy9205

14 күн бұрын

Jen McCabe is the pot stirer

@outoftime7740

14 күн бұрын

Ya friends don't put their friends and their families through pure hell. Because of something horrible they did. Karen is a horrible lying lady.

@MrTadfortitude

14 күн бұрын

I have felt all along that Jen has either had a crush on John or even fooled around with him at some point in the past. There is something like that there and I think she had a hidden nasty disposition towards Karen and only played noce to stay cordial, but her real interest was with John. And I think her hisband clearly didn't like John and probably had his suspicions towards John as well. It sounds like John was a ladies man and alot of women want guys like that because it makes them feel wanted when a guy who gets a lot of women wants them and it they also know they can get a fling on the low easily. Plus his sex life "whether he is good in the sack" has gotten passed around through gossip among the ladies in their circle and probably caused some fantasies.

@basicallyno1722

14 күн бұрын

@bettycatt but didn’t Martha Stewart legitimately commit Crimes? If not cover for a friend’s crimes and risk going to prison if it incriminated me. Martha seems to have had a pretty blessed life beyond that one time she committed felonies

They probably were hoping they could blame a snowplough when they dumped his body outside.

@user-mw2yy2ed1g

12 күн бұрын

My theory is that was their original plan…somehow it changed to Karen.

@j50wells

3 күн бұрын

I think there's something to that. They threw him out by the flag pole near where the snowplough driver went through at 3:30 AM.

The weird thing is, they didn’t call the Alberts. They knew they were driving to their house to go check on John and they didn’t call the Alberts.

@CH-vm6cq

13 күн бұрын

Very good point! Maybe because it was super early?

@loriduffecy9205

13 күн бұрын

IDK.... maybe burner phones???

@donnie420ish

13 күн бұрын

I've always thought the same. Call your SISTER and ask her if by any chance John showed up and is passed out on the couch or something.

@annm9589

12 күн бұрын

Also she says KR said "we have to go to Fairview" I dont think when they asked for directions the night before she would refer to the house that way, she would probably say "Your sister's house" I just dont buy she said this. I also think the taillight was mentioned too many times for me to believe it. Including MM mentioning it. If her boyfriend is missing I dont think she would even notice the tailight. I am having trouble with the credibility.

@astrialindah2773

11 күн бұрын

Yes Jen's sisters house ...🧐

There seems to be a pattern with the prosecutor, he stretches out his time and makes it so that the husband and wives are broken up in their cross examination to separate days. This certainly allows time for the second person to prepare and get stories straight over the night or even weekend. This happened with Both Albert couples and now the McCabes.

@valhallaw

14 күн бұрын

Yup. Every time.

@dr.amytanner

14 күн бұрын

That’s a good point.

@Always_Thinking

14 күн бұрын

Wait for cross on Tuesday! JM's story has so many holes. I don't see how either of their testimonies can carry any credibility!

@valhallaw

14 күн бұрын

@@Always_Thinking I agree, and that’s without knowing what damning evidence the defense has been holding back.

@sallycinnamon5370

14 күн бұрын

@@Always_ThinkingI thought she did pretty good. I don’t know what they have on her except a search she will deny and getting a screenshot from her daughter so I can’t speak to how the cross exam will go. Normally I would have considered her evidence openly…but after 3 weeks of shadiness I’m taking it with a heap of salt. The bar for the cross examination to cut her off at the knees is much lower than if she had come at the beginning. I’m very curious abiut what Tuesday will bring

I came in with a blank slate. All I knew was a cop died and something about a girlfriend. Today blew my mind. 1. The total lack of humanity while talking about an acquaintance/friend that’s passed has been insane to me. 2. Referring to John as “That guy” was bad. 3. Jen didn’t make ANY sense. Claimed KR said she left John at Waterfall. Then wondered if she hit him. Then pointed out the broken tail light but that video footage confirming it at Okeefes house didn’t exist. It didn’t happen. Then how insane she was screaming Carrie and her names over and over again yet ring camera didn’t catch that either. NOTHING from the prosecutions witnesses has made any sense. Their stories don’t match up. Like maybe 20% of things link together. That’s the waterfall, who was there, when they left, where they intended to go. After leaving the waterfall ALL stories are different 🤦🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️ I’m so confused by it all.

@frsmith5069

14 күн бұрын

All excellent points of logical inconsistencies lining up with an unbelieveable set of actions by these witnesses in particular and several so far. And I came in with a blank slate as well. This case is starting to make me allergic to trial watching.

@ang3432

13 күн бұрын

It didn't make sense that Jen had to have her husband remind her that they saw him outside the house... she would know this based on the texts she sent John telling him where to park etc.

@weary1989

13 күн бұрын

The way they have pointed out that there are two officers (well, one retired now, but at the time there were two) but they shy away from saying "Officer O'Keefe" is also something that gets me. They said the title of every first responder, but the victim isn't provided the same courtesy? Odd. The screaming really gets me too. I know everyone reacts to crises differently, but just screaming the names of friends instead of the person you're desperately trying to find seems off. I'd get it if KR was calling for John, but to be /screaming/ for her two 'friends' who are in the car with her feels like an odd way of centering the 'friends' in the situation.

@frsmith5069

13 күн бұрын

@@weary1989 I don't think KR was saying or screaming half of what Jen McCabe claimed. Her story didn't match most of the video evidence and there are lots of contradictions. Jen McCabe's the prosecutions key witness but her story is ...off...something hidden was going on in her relationship to John O'Keefe and KR

@frsmith5069

13 күн бұрын

@@ang3432 None of this case, nor many of the witnesses are making much sense at this point.

I am a 60 year old woman and have been watching court cases since Perry Mason. I have never seen a judge ask the witness “can you answer that?” after an objection. 🤦🏻‍♀️

@yellowpillNP

13 күн бұрын

Yeah I find it weird that, during both the CW or the defense examinations, she’ll say “ask it differently” or “they can answer that” or just ask the question directly to the witness herself.

@mynonamechannel

13 күн бұрын

It’s weird. Why can’t she just say sustained or overruled? And Bev not wanting the attorneys to give explanations with their objections is mind boggling! I didn’t know that was even possible.

@katchristensen4211

13 күн бұрын

​@@mynonamechannel It's a control thing.

@brutus6328

13 күн бұрын

Not even that......what is the basis for the objection? She doesn't even ask "heresay?"...."foundation?" etc. This judge is corrupt as she continually tells the defense to "move on" at critical times, and also sustains 98% of the prosecutions objections.

@LakesLauren

13 күн бұрын

She’s also repeated the question but worded slightly different to make it leading. Her style is absolutely bizarre.

The driveway Ring cameras had audio…NO screaming

I just cant with the text “That Guy” 😡 he was your friend!!!

@cleobinx

14 күн бұрын

That really bothered me and made me hate both of them

@bbg7777

14 күн бұрын

Clearly matt McCabe isn’t a real friend

@mm11966

14 күн бұрын

I agree...shady af..."That guy" had a name...smdh...

@miaknig3130

14 күн бұрын

​@@bbg7777and quite possibly an extreme enemy.

@KH-ch9wz

13 күн бұрын

IMO Matt knows what really happened. His wife actually doesn’t. Matt seems dodgy.

No one saw a 6 foot man lying in the front yard before it had a chance to be covered in snow, but Karen saw it immediately as they pulled up, yet that's supposed to make her look guilty? She was the innocent one who was truly concerned about John 😢 this is so sad

@bwaygal4905

14 күн бұрын

Very well said.

@jannater28

14 күн бұрын

The part about karen pulling up her shirt and laying on him to try to warm him 💔

@katekrieger4646

14 күн бұрын

So true!!

@deborahdixon863

14 күн бұрын

Yeah right! She knew where he was. KR is evil.

@Katrina-qs2rl

14 күн бұрын

Her cries for John were heartbreaking. I believe KR is one that really cared for JO.

As a juror I've had a problem with the cw and most witnesses

lallys style of questioning means the jury probably fall asleep during his parts and only wake up when defence is up

@loriduffecy9205

13 күн бұрын

I fall asleep 😴 listening to him

@Rambo-John-J

13 күн бұрын

Right? they never get flustered when questioned by Lally

@Ieezeca

12 күн бұрын

I fell asleep while Lally was questioning a potential murderer...

How is running to John odd. If my husband was lying on the ground bet i am running straight to him to try to help

NONE of these people have given KR the benefit of the doubt. None of them have shown any compassion for her response/reaction to this in that moment. That says a lot to me.

@RareInTheHistory

14 күн бұрын

Add in all the stories of them picking on people, like Jen showing everybody an embarrassing video of a family member dancing around to "It's Raining Men", and they come off as bullies. At first, I thought it was just normal banter type stuff, but the more times and more types of these jokes they mention, the less I relate to them. My family and hubby's family are also teasers, and we definitely have family in jokes about dumb stuff we all did or said, but it has a very different feel to it versus how these people talk about it. We also aren't bringing these jokes up at every encounter. This seems a lot more like needling someone and putting them down rather than an in-joke that everybody is playing along with and having fun with.

@RubyGraceInspo

14 күн бұрын

@@RareInTheHistory my husbands side of the family are “can’t you take a joke” kind of people. Not realizing that some times it’s cruel. And maybe this family is used to it. But even then it’s hard to ignore the complete lack of compassion in their testimony. It also stood out to me how those that have been able were eager to talk about how they’ve been harassed and bullied…

@kelly3560

12 күн бұрын

Karen the Killer doesn’t deserve compassion.

One thing that seems odd is that when Karen told Jen she left him at the waterfall that she didn’t respond “no you didn’t, we went over to the Albert’s…I was on the phone with y’all”. Id be trying to jog her memory

@CH-vm6cq

13 күн бұрын

Very true

Especially the wording “Tell them he didn’t come in the house” verse “Let them know how he never made it in the house”…. It’s all in the context!!

I think Jen McCabe is the leader for the whole case for the whole Albert family and their in-laws. Jen McCabe is the FIRST WITNESS to introduce the broken tail light. With her boyfriend missing at 4:00 a.m. the morning of Jan 29th, I can't believe Karen Read would be telling Jen McCabe about having a broken taillight.

@AmyB369

14 күн бұрын

She also waited to contact the police later to suddenly tell them Karen said she hit him

@timbercoffee

14 күн бұрын

Also did you catch that Matthew McCabe said he looked out his window down at Karen's car and could see the broken tail light? I don't believe that. Not from above and looking toward the front of the car in their driveway.

@traceycurtis1005

13 күн бұрын

Oh yeah, with the Karen is freaking out and just stops mid panic to talk about her tail light? I call BS.

As rude as the judge is to the defense. Getting mad at them, hurrying them, sighing, telling them to move on. These two dont even miss a beat just keep being nice and honest. I think it make them look good and the judge bad

@hope7144

14 күн бұрын

OMG the Judge is HORRIBLE !! So bias towards the Prosecution!

@bopete6149

14 күн бұрын

100% she’s constantly rushing the defense and talks so condescending to them while babying Lally and holding his hand. She turns my stomach with her fake smiling at the jury and then shying, huffing and puffing all the rest of the time.

@lynnparrish1335

14 күн бұрын

Wait. What? NICE? This is now a term for bullies!?

@cleobinx

14 күн бұрын

I do too ! She is only helping then

@jaysonsorensen594

14 күн бұрын

@lynnparrish1335 who a bully? The judge?

i hate this judge she made an entire scene on day 14, then blamed it all on the defense trying to make them look like rookie lawyers.

Jen lied about Karen showing her the taillight outside John O'Keefe's house - they go straight into the house She says they went straight over to John and started CPR - but on the 911 call she said they flipped him over

@kristinastoico7422

13 күн бұрын

There was a lot she lied about. Can’t wait for cross.

The judge refused to recuse herself but she clearly dislikes the defense, seems to dislike the defendant, and seems to resent being there overall. What gives? Is she always this negative or is something else going on? I've seen judges get annoyed during a trial for brief periods but this constant sighing, interrupting, and disgusted tone of voice is wildly unprofessional.

@Lofilifer1

14 күн бұрын

Apparently she’s close to these people, so she’s likely just as bad.

@Katrina-qs2rl

14 күн бұрын

If she doesn't like her job, she should do something else.

@mizzotis8329

14 күн бұрын

I wonder what effect her hostile impatient attitude will have on the jury.

@mandy2117

14 күн бұрын

it is rumoured that the judge is aunt bev to the albert kids dont know if true but it might make sense all the sighs at the start is she the one that made the google search . maybe she text to cover up like other pp do lots of pp get caught wi google searches ect.

@MonicaEGolak

14 күн бұрын

This judge speaks with a soft voice, but proceeds like a SNAKE...

Peter I think once the defense crosses Jen McCabe it will become very clear why they put off calling her.

@dr.amytanner

14 күн бұрын

Agreed.

@user-my5xp2vi6g

14 күн бұрын

Yeah, she lied a lot.

@lisareed7081

14 күн бұрын

Agree

@Jack-bc5xg

14 күн бұрын

Karen is the liar.

@hippiechick3829

14 күн бұрын

I think the plan all along for the order of Jen’s testimony was to wrap up all the other witnesses testimony. If you noticed, she used the exact same phrases, one way or another, or else tried to clear up any other witnesses testimony. Control freak!

Get our story straight group chat: “that guy never came in the house”… reply EXACTLY. So telling. Jen seems to remember every detail in a specific order. Most of the other witnesses couldn’t remember if it was snowing or not. Jen has a story and she’s sticking to it And she making sure she mentions fight and making sure she is mentioning could I have hit him over and over again. Like we get it Jen. I don’t trust her, and I hope she knows karma lives if she is up there lying on an innocent woman.

Jen McCabe was over the top with her constantly telling the jury how Karen was running around screaming

@KKonYouTube

13 күн бұрын

COMPLETELY agree! It came off as unvelievable as she kept claiming it.

@j50wells

3 күн бұрын

Right, and then weird skin on skin thing, and Karen saying she thinks the blood is her period. They were trying to smear Karen and make her look like a crazy person who was capable of killing John.

The way she is reenacting her “friend’” screams says it all to me

@Kaykay-nn8yd

14 күн бұрын

Sounds just like her , actually. Listen to the 911 call. Karen is screaming Jen and Kerry just like that.

@timbercoffee

14 күн бұрын

@@Kaykay-nn8yd She didn't need to mock Karen's screams though.

@quincybear5807

14 күн бұрын

​@@Kaykay-nn8ydShe said KR was acting irrational and could of woke up the neighbors Jen M is a sick, sick woman

@liset4081

14 күн бұрын

I think JM is a sociopath and pathological liar. No grief for her “friend “ over 10 years. She tried to cry but couldn’t. She seem very emotionally off. She seem like she hate Karen Read and wanted to embarrass her all she could with those screams and not to mention the period comment, that I don’t think for a second KR said. And those dark eyes. Just my opinion though

@eagrinstead1

13 күн бұрын

​@Kaykay-nn8yd Karen having just found the body, yeah, I buy those screams like that at that time. Not until then. It's not believable. She was upset and frantic prior, but it isn't reasonable to believe Karen's baseline was identical to the 911 audio recording after finding John's body.

Jen Jen Jen deserves an academy award. She practiced so hard on her testimony.

@suzygordon2331

14 күн бұрын

She was an awesome witness. I would love to talk to that woman.

@9Greyskies

14 күн бұрын

Yep. Definitely well rehearsed. She was ready.

@melodiecason2799

14 күн бұрын

I thought her testimony was all over the place. She claimed Karen was all over the place and hysterical and screaming. Yet the doorbell cam shows differently. I can pick out so many lies in her testimony.

@waynesawyer

14 күн бұрын

Matt did it better. He absolutely loved doing it. He repeated it over and over again, with enthusiasm.

@user-ii2uh1xq7b

14 күн бұрын

@@9Greyskies where have you been mars? attorneys prep witnesses and clients.

I keep repeating this, but for me, the problem is that it was barely snowing at 12h30 (bar video). How Mr O'Keefe's body ended up on a thick layer of snow? (dashcams) I still have issues with the lack of blood around his head due to the 2 inch laceration (leaf blower video). And how to explain the 3 floors recorded on his phone health data? For these reasons, I would never be able to convict her as guilty.

SHAME, SHAME ON THE JUDGE FOR NOT LETTING THESE TEXT MESSAGES IN!!!

@andyschool

13 күн бұрын

Which ones did she keep out? I nodded off bc Lally. Couldn’t hear him. Was sick of constant changing of volume from 100 to hear him drone on w repetitive questions only to have these witnesses show little regard for the oaths they’d taken. Many, most seemed incredible, lacked veracity on the stand & that was before and cross examination. Which did she keep out? She seems more than a tad biased too.

@susanhassey2711

13 күн бұрын

Which text messages?

@andyschool

13 күн бұрын

@@susanhassey2711 I’m reviewing coverage. I see that she wouldn’t allow all the Fed text bubbles on cross by Yanetti of Matt McCabe. She’s truly very partial. Andrea Burkhardt, a lawtuber, says Bev is overturned on average 5 out of 9 cases on appeal for breaking rules of evidence violations, etc. Seems Bev tromples on defendant’s rights more than we’re seeing here.

@Ieezeca

12 күн бұрын

They'll try to get more in Tuesday...

@lulubells930

11 күн бұрын

I am having a hard time believing KR slammed into her boyfriend and drive away. Doesn’t make any sense.

I just can’t believe a cop wouldn’t come outside if there was a body on his front lawn ,,, 😂😂

@YolyW66

14 күн бұрын

Or the dog not barking. 😅😅

@Seasheasells

14 күн бұрын

There is nothing believable about it.

@Vermontita

14 күн бұрын

Or go to the funeral of that dead brother un blue. I mean he traveled to NY. This guy is DEF hiding something

@coolb8545

14 күн бұрын

​@@SeasheasellsI think they're all in on it

The lack of compassion for John, from all these witnesses is mind blowing! I can’t imagine what his family is feeling or thinking.

@sarah29880

14 күн бұрын

It’s really unimaginable. Horrible people

@Becki545

14 күн бұрын

Super sad. I wonder what any of them had against him. Jealousy?

@user-ii2uh1xq7b

14 күн бұрын

the witnesses what about karens?smiling smirking not one tear.

@jettsoma

14 күн бұрын

It’s mind boggling!

@enigma_-_79

14 күн бұрын

How do you know that they lack compassion? They may have cried for the first 6 months. This trial is taking place 2 years after the crime and the defense is that someone from their family killed JOK, not Ms Read who alone, had motive.

I still don't know how John died, but I do know if it was Karen, all his long time friends have not shown any sadness or empathy to his sad death, that makes me question their testimony, it seems to be about saving themselves

@Quiz261Grl

14 күн бұрын

They didn’t even go to his funeral.

Her supposed “admissions” could be just confusion and shock because she could never imagine her “friends” would mislead her?

Not credible. I'm seeing a family closing ranks. It smells really bad.

@silikon2

13 күн бұрын

Agreed. She tells Jen "Google hypothermia, google how long it takes to die in the cold". This did not occur. Jesus.

@IMO0712

13 күн бұрын

@@silikon2 and we haven’t heard what that time stamp is on this alleged google search

@silikon2

12 күн бұрын

Jen testified Karen asked if the blood on her hands was her period. I'm a dude and know the basics, but is it plausible a woman would say that? And if she *did* say that, then doesn't indicate she was saying crazy stuff, yes? So if she did say "I hit him", why would anybody think that was rational? I have a very dim view of prosecutors cherry picking some ambiguous statement and claiming it's a confession. Same thing with Murdaugh. When a prosecutor tries that it literally makes me doubt their case because it's such flimsy evidence.

@kierstenX

12 күн бұрын

​@@silikon2as a woman ..... No, that would definitely not be a normal thing to ask. And I agree with both it making her seem like she was just ranting crazy things and I agree in the murdaugh prosecutor point you made!

@esjobs6054

12 күн бұрын

So everyone but Karen has lied, 😂 okay

Think we haven’t even gotten to the defenses case in chief! 🤯 I can’t stop myself from wondering if the O’Keefe family will ever know the full truth of what happened to their son, who by all accounts sounded like a nice guy! I hope justice is served and truth prevails.

@bdw7254

14 күн бұрын

They won’t

@go_dawgs1776

14 күн бұрын

@@bdw7254 dont count it out to soon. Have hope ❤️ my grandma always told me: “it all comes out in the wash”

@Melissa_Badhorse

14 күн бұрын

I believe this case being brought isn't about convincting Karen but more about keeping the Alberts from going down

@RonTDB

14 күн бұрын

Hopefully if things keep trending the way its looking and the the Albert's & McCabes knows they are toast maybe someone who was nothing more than a witness speaks up in exchange for reduced charges. If Karen Read is innocent I can't believe these families are risking their own and children's future to cover up for someone. It was hard not to point the finger at her in the beginning but with all the Albert's & McCabes behavior, phone exchanging, search & text deleting, lying against computer data how can you not point the finger at them.

@md8465

14 күн бұрын

If it was really the Alberts, someone in the future may say they are guilty. If they are, who would be prosecuted? Colin, Jen McCabe, Brian Albert, and maybe Chris Albert?

What I cannot parse with Matt McCabe is to reverse out of the driveway and drive up towards the flagpole, his headlights would have passed over the entire lawn! That lawn is VERY flat. I can’t understand how you couldn’t see John lying on the ground from the front door either. They’re up higher and again that lawn is flat. To look out to see the suv up the street, you would have seen John, even more so with there being a dusting of snow. And you’d look around looking for him walking up. I dunno, it’s just SO bizarre.

@suzygordon2331

13 күн бұрын

I will make it easy for you all lol. Just imagine Karen Read backing up into her boyfriend and then work your ways backwards.You're trying to fit the narrative to what did not happen, so it doesn't make sense. Just remember, psycho jealous lady backs up into her boyfriend, goes home and starts concocting a story. She decides to take a plea deal, then changes her mind after....wow!! no video of the incident...so...game on! Karen and her conspiracy!

@bridgett039

13 күн бұрын

@@suzygordon2331 if the prosecution can prove that then fine. But all they’ve got so far is the car moving in a forward direction. Oh and that it was snowing. We definitely know it was snowing

@suzygordon2331

13 күн бұрын

@@bridgett039 They have physical evidence. Hair on bumper, cocktail glass embedded in bumper. Damage to tail light. They also have a confession from the defendant to many people at the scene and the car ride on the way to the scene. They have Jen's text messages that John did not answer. There was a raging blizzard going on, so I can see why they didn't hear the actual impact of John hitting the rear of that SUV, it was far away from the house, almost on the property of another homeowner. Snow covered John's body. All of Jen McCabe's testimony is incredibly detailed and believable. It puts all the pieces together. I thought there could have been a possibility that another car or a plow hit John, till I heard Jen McCabe. The final nail in the coffin is that Karen Read herself...confessed. Till she found out there was no ring camera on any video of at all, then she retracted her confession.

@bridgett039

13 күн бұрын

@@suzygordon2331 I wasn’t asking you for the evidence. I’m waiting for the prosecution. Who by the way, showed a video to Jen McCabe that just showed she just lied. When they arrive at meadows ave, Karen doesn’t say anything and certainly doesn’t show them her tail light. If there is the physical evidence you say, I’ll wait to see how that was collected and if it was also sitting open next to the car. You believe she’s guilty. That’s fine. I’ll wait for all the evidence to make up my mind

The people that live on Fairview now let the defense take pictures. That speaks volumes. They probably look out that front door everyday asking how could any adult miss a body on the front lawn?

Peter, if this Judge is a family friend of the Alberts or whomever, why wasn't she MADE to recuse herself or just flat out be removed from the case automatically? This troubles me and her bias clearly shows!!! This is not fair and impartial, this is not due process!!😡

@maximoo79

14 күн бұрын

The judge actually CHOSE to preside over this case and refused to recuse. Utterly disgraceful.

@LawNerdAmber

14 күн бұрын

When a judge is asked to recuse themselves it's up to that judge to decide to recuse or not. No one else can make them step down without sanctions/orders from higher courts.

@frsmith5069

14 күн бұрын

@@maximoo79 A high profile case televised to the masses? What better way to try and get a Judge Judy type tv contract - why would the judge EVER recuse herself from that opportunity - judicial ethics aside, of course.

@user-ys4gz6oh2vDan

14 күн бұрын

Hey Tragos why don't u respond to this

@aoleary5213

14 күн бұрын

Ya, she was the one in charge of the judges rotation

My mother always told me if you lie it will snowball but if you tell the truth you have nothing to think about so easy!

@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy

13 күн бұрын

Exactly.

@whartonitec1041

12 күн бұрын

Read lied over and over again, even in her TV interview. Prosecution has the wrong strategy. Prosecution shouldn’t become defense.

@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy

11 күн бұрын

Well so far it appears the prosecution doesn’t have much so they are trying whatever they can. Seriously, no eye witness, injuries don’t match a vehicle accident, inconsistencies in witnesses testimony, the worst investigation ever. It’s hard to believe they thought they could bring this to trial.

She lied. If Karen thought she left him at the Waterfall why did she call Jenn??

All these people drinking for hours yet no one was intoxicating. All these people looking out the windows & seeing a vehicle, yet not one sees what happens?

I still cannot figure out how no one saw John on the lawn.

@varisozols4308

14 күн бұрын

I’ve personally driven by that property at night in the same direction all these witnesses did The pictures make it look wayyyyy bigger than it is It’s such a small area It’s impossible that no one saw him

@Vermontita

14 күн бұрын

Bc he wasn’t put out there.. YET

@basicallyno1722

14 күн бұрын

I find it weird that Jen made Karen go back to John’s house to look for him….didnt she just come from John’s house?

What I found the most important fact was that Matt McCabe text the other people in the group and make sure they all said that he never went into the house and that Brian Albert said exactly how guilty is that to me that is proof they all were covering up

@dr.amytanner

14 күн бұрын

Agreed. If that’s what actually happened there would be no reason to send a group text.

@ValenciaValentina255

14 күн бұрын

KR was arrested already . The focus was on KR . They were paranoid.. they knew it would come back to Them

@lillyroth61

14 күн бұрын

Maybe. I tend to agree. However, I can think of a context in which that phrase could sound acceptable.

@bwaygal4905

14 күн бұрын

I totally 100% agree! Responding, "exactly" makes no sense except to imply, "Yep, that's EXACTLY what we all need to say." Disgusting and vile people.

@starsalways7922

14 күн бұрын

Yes and some of them don't know for sure he didn't go in the house and he could have gone in and down to the basement. Also, KR could have dropped him off outside and they beat him outside.

The fact that the commonwealth takes forever to do his examination and calls every single person involved in the case and defense takes a little time and judge gets bent out of shape!!! So wild!

It’s kinda refreshing to listen to someone who doesn’t say, I don’t recall or I don’t remember

The McAlberts act like they're still in high school.

"We're done here." Gotta love Yannetti!

I’m one of the FEW people that’s starting to think Karen did it but the State is having a hard time proving it…it’s not what u know, it’s what u can prove 🤷🏽‍♀️

Great analysis!!! I’m from the Boston area and it’s hard to find any coverage that isn’t biased one way or another. Glad to have found your page

I won't want Jen McCabe as a friend! I don't trust her!

@beverlybwilliams

13 күн бұрын

In the beginning , Jenn & Karen were only acquaintances, not friends . Shared girl talk at a bar … Jenn is a Mean Girl. Not one word of support for Karen ( she was acting like a Crazy Person !) … not friend material.

What do you do when the judge is personally friends with these families owns property next-door to these families and has not recused her self and these families have every connection in every part of the investigation

@michaelcalland801

14 күн бұрын

Defense tried to get her to recuse but she ruled “ I can fair” Her brother is also an attorney who represented Chris Albert

@basicallyno1722

14 күн бұрын

Yes when Chris Albert killed a pedestrian during his DUI hit and run…He didn’t turn himself in until 2 days later. The whole family is sketch.

It’s hard to believe that Karen would have gone outside, saw that her taillight was cracked, thought that perhaps she hit John prior to speaking with Jen and then would say that to anyone for a few reasons. Some of the photos/videos of the car show just how much snow was on the back of the vehicle before Karen left for Jen’s house, and there’s no video of Karen going outside and inspecting her vehicle prior to leaving to look for him around 5 am. If the timing of when the taillight was broken is so critical for proving Karen hit John, wouldn’t that video (if it existed) and Jens testimony about what she heard be the first /most relevant info for the commonwealth? Also, these witnesses have pinned themselves into such a small window where John could have been hit by Karen. It’s really only a couple of minutes where this could have happened yet no one saw or heard anything? On a very surface level, regardless of what really happened, it’s going to be hard to believe anything the witnesses have said because they all were drinking and it was a good chunk of time before most of them were interviewed.

Pay attention to how she says Karen shows her the taillight when they got to John's house. And then watch the video of them arriving at John's house. Impeached!!

Why the heck would Matt McCabe have to tell ANYONE to say "the guy" was never in the house? If that's the truth, what else would they possibly say?!? No one would need a reminder because that would be the only thing TO say. This whole thing is so shady - but one thing is evident: these people have ZERO empathy for John or Karen - only themselves.

@Journey188

14 күн бұрын

Also, at that point, there was no theory that he ever went into the house, correct? Why were they defending that theory before it even was a theory?

@barbaramay1866

14 күн бұрын

That is not true. The conspiracy theory is what made him text that John was never in the house.

@wonder5487

14 күн бұрын

@@barbaramay1866 there was a conspiracy theory just three days after they found John? That's pretty quick!

@tinahansen5887

14 күн бұрын

Excellent point

@Always_Thinking

14 күн бұрын

​@@wonder5487They had to move fast to stop any potential investigation..imo

41:14 : John O’Keefe’s phone puts him in the house. The true smoking gun for the defense is JO’s phone data that places him walking enough steps to enter the house and likewise captures elevation data suggesting he was descending stairs into the basement.

@Bhubnipz

14 күн бұрын

Where did you see that? I’ve never heard of “phone data” being able to determine someone’s position that well or determine elevation changes of a few feet

@casey5683

14 күн бұрын

@@Bhubnipzit’s his apple health data from his Apple watch not his phone, but same thing basically.

@morganmoves1318

14 күн бұрын

@@Bhubnipz Yeah, but they knew exactly where Alex Cox stood when he dug those graves, or the exact steps Barry Morphew took while he hunted his old lady with sedative darts.. They got phones can tell the difference between jumping jacks and jumping rope, believe that. I'm not saying they have that here, but trust it's out there.

@suzygordon2331

14 күн бұрын

man you people are screwy af lol

@bethmccrae2714

14 күн бұрын

This is false.

None of the ambulance staff said Karen was on the phone

She says Karen was screaming and hysterical but I heard none of that on the ring camera

The prosecution has proved nothing except an attempt to shield the Alberts

@hope7144

14 күн бұрын

Exactly !!! John deserves better !!!

@SisterHeavenly-fx1qw

14 күн бұрын

As a juror, I was always annoyed when lawyers tried to trip witnesses instead of drawing out the truth.

@TalktoKel

14 күн бұрын

@@SisterHeavenly-fx1qw protect?

@SydneyCollin

14 күн бұрын

...and a lot of reasonable doubt.

@ajwysopal

14 күн бұрын

🚨🚨🚨49:40 she said she had a "cracked" taillight....... So how in the hell did 40+ pieces of her taillight get by John's body?!?!?!...... That alone seems to me to be enough showing the police at the very minimum helped there case along by staging up evidence to make karen look guilty. I hope the defense heard this part like I did and brings it up on Tuesday. Because that's a huge part of the cw case. The pieces of taillight. 💯💯💯💯🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨

I find it baffling that Chad daybell could almost be aquitted over a typo, but this trial is happening with so many weird things by police during the investigation. I.e. not searching house, evidence in solo cups, getting rid of phones, etc.

@mynonamechannel

14 күн бұрын

Interesting isn’t it? What a difference.

She's not credible. The whole group has suspicious behavior. Getting rid of cell phones they were told to keep, replacing the basement floor, getting rid of the dog, selling the home, not coming out when their yard is flooded with sirens and flashing lights. Video shows John and Karen loving on each other at the bar. No one has said they saw them not getting along. Dog bites on John's arm. And the latest, "tell them the guy never came in". They've had more than enough years to get it all together. Too much suspicious behavior to not have reasonable doubt.

@LindaTaz

11 күн бұрын

If these people that own the house were not involved in this man's death then why do all of the above. Looks guilty to me

Cannot WAIT for Jackson to cross examine this witness on Tuesday! Will be so looking forward to your analysis of it Peter! Thanking you as always and have a lovely Sunday! 🙏😊

Jen has very clearly been harboring some fierce jealousy towards Karen Read for a very long time.

@melodiecason2799

14 күн бұрын

Yes exactly what I thought.

@bethmccrae2714

14 күн бұрын

More likely Karen Read harbored jealousy toward the wives

@itsjust_Lisa

14 күн бұрын

​@@bethmccrae2714 why on earth would she be?

@60nygal

14 күн бұрын

@@itsjust_Lisa Karen appears insecure...she was fighting with her boyfriend .... I don't think the party people did anything wrong. I truly believe Karen had jealousy & anger fought with her boyfriend unknowingly hit him drove away drunk and that's it !

@frsmith5069

14 күн бұрын

@@60nygal The ONLY person so far who claimed Karen was fighting with her boyfriend was this witness. And I really don't get how Jen McCabe and John were very friendly and yet her husband Matt calls John "that guy". Also Jen McCabe's "screaming" "crazy" "hysterical" is so over the top in description it seems rehearsed and off. AND those same descriptors are used by her sister Nicole Albert about Jen McCabe herself when Jen bursts into the bedroom of Brian and Nicole Albert - yet neither Matt, nor Jen, describe Jen's behavior in that way.... my suspicions grow with every word out of Jen McCabe's mouth.

Praying for Officer John O’Keefe’s family 🙏🏻💕⚖️ #JusticeForJohnOKeefe 🩵

I HOPE Alan Jackson’s OPENING is “HOS LONG TO DIE IN THE COLD”~ Jennifer McCabe 2:27 am No additional words needed to start Cross!

@l-train7876

13 күн бұрын

And then she deleted the search.

I felt bad when they referred to John as "the guy" so I can't even imagine how his family felt hearing that 😥

To your point, yes the parade of witnesses has made me very skeptical about Jenn McCabe's testimony. Primarily because she seemed so cold about Karen Read. Her words made me think that she was looking down on her and not acting like a friend. That makes me feel as if she could be "framing her".

@go_dawgs1776

14 күн бұрын

Like if my friend or someone I’d hung out with that night was freaking out and screaming, I would think she would’ve given answers that involved more words like “help”, “it was traumatic for her”, “she loved him, we all did”…no one is saying stuff like this and I don’t get it.

@beverlybwilliams

14 күн бұрын

Mean Girl

@kerri-lynbryant293

14 күн бұрын

Justice for JO'K. If that was me.. that's all I'd care about on that witness stand at that moment. Karen's thrown the family's friendship out, the day after this thing happened.

@maycronin1188

14 күн бұрын

​@@kerri-lynbryant293rightly so. With friends like that..,

@cherylj7460

14 күн бұрын

They were willing to pray with her!😉

The fact that the ring camera doesn’t show Jaren going wild or showing them a break light says it all to me.

@jamesbuttery3862

14 күн бұрын

Dash cam from police car showed her going wild/screaming…plus the driveway camera showed Karen read backing up into that SUV and driving away with a broken tail Iight. So you actually have video of both.

@RareInTheHistory

14 күн бұрын

​@@jamesbuttery3862Yes, but on the scene where she had been trying to warm John's body and seeing his injuries, it makes sense she'd be freaking out and pacing around. At John's house, it doesn't make sense she's running around screaming when he's just missing and possibly crashing at a friend's house (and definitely not screaming Jen & Carrie's names rather than John's), and the camera footage confirms she wasn't doing that.

@ThirstyKaren

14 күн бұрын

The ring camera shows Karen hit Johns car intentionally- because all 2021 Lexus have pre-collision and one of the features on the called PKSB - parking support brake - identifies an any object behind your car and will automatically apply the brake preventing the driver from coming closer than 6” to another car when backing up. Since it didn’t activate and stop her from hitting Johns car it proves Karen turned it off after starting the car. The only way to turn off this setting is going through a 7 step process using the buttons on the steering wheel. It’s the ONLY setting that resets back to the “ON” position each time the engine is started. That’s how I know she had to turn it off at 5am. when she started the car. So… why would she turn it off seconds before making that bumper tap with John’s car? To provide an explanation for the broken light on her Lexus.

@lizzeltired2155

14 күн бұрын

@@jamesbuttery3862of course she was upset finding him dead. She was the only one upset. And she hit the tail light on John’s car it’s on video

@kissykay07

13 күн бұрын

@@ThirstyKarenI’ve seen you frantically commenting everywhere making this point. If this feature on the car reactivated as often as you say, then how did she back over John without the car stopping her within 6 inches?

Also she said KR showed her the broken tail light I don’t see that on the camera show it

Hi! I heard the same comment "He's bound to mess up." It was loud and clear and I said to myself "WOW." It looked like it came from the defense table because the camera was on them and one of the lawyers. was leaning in to talk to someone at the table. I cant remember which lawyer it was. And it was only yesterday! LOL. But it was definitely said. You're the best!

@bluejean500

13 күн бұрын

that hot mic moment by Lally was, i believe, referring to himself messing up the next witness’s last name (pick up driver).

Even if the defense lost this case, I would hire them in a second. Hot!

Jen’s testimony is she Googled, ‘how long does it take to die in the cold’ around 6am something but I thought it was brought up earlier in the trial that the Google search time was at 2:27am. ‘hos long does it take to die in the cold’

@RareInTheHistory

14 күн бұрын

Yup. I wonder how the prosecutor is going to try to explain the phone data away.

@jenw7344

13 күн бұрын

It was!!!!

@l-train7876

13 күн бұрын

She searched it the first time at 2:28am, then deleted the search. This will come up in cross-examination on Tuesday. Buckle up.

@tinasanders5122

12 күн бұрын

I cannot wait!! Also, has Kerry Roberts testified and corroborated Jen’s ‘story’?

And why wasn't she hysterical being his good friend

That group chat was very revealing. When you are telling the truth, there is no need to get your story straight. I thought it was devastating for the prosecution.

This made me like MATT ALL THE LESS. He’s cocky and arrogant.

@kathleen9768

14 күн бұрын

And referred to John as "the guy". Ugh. 😡

@lynnparrish1335

14 күн бұрын

Unlike the defense attorneys, right?

@beachgirl468

14 күн бұрын

@@lynnparrish1335 the defense attys are freaking awesome!!

@Lisa_leelee

14 күн бұрын

And his wife that can’t stop saying “jennnnn….jennnnn!” Look in the mirror lady. Yikes! Not a nice site!

@waynesawyer

14 күн бұрын

Matt is a pissy. Hiding under the bed. Absolutely controlled by his wife. She's got the pants on right. He's just 'there' like a cardboard cutout figure, doing whatever she says.

Where's the ring footage of them huddling around Karen's tail light? I can't wait until cross. Jen deleted 18 text messages and the other texts times don't match. Defense also has her steps and 360. It's going to get spicy 🔥

@Glitterbeauties

14 күн бұрын

Oh yes! Especially after her husband’s text they showed today of “tell them the GUY didn’t go inside” like first he was supposed to be your friend and why even text that if nothing needed to be hidden about him ever going inside?!!! I hope they are all caught. The corruption is DEEP

@CrazyCrystal8175

14 күн бұрын

Yes!!!! SAME!!!😮😅❤

Love your recaps, Peter. Thanks for all you do!

His injuries are not from being ran over. A bumper is not going to leave bruising on back of his hands and scratch marks/bite marks.