*PLEASE NOTE* At 2:35 the Inaccuracy counter skips from 13 to 15. This was because I was originally mislead by an unreality source which caused me to make a factually incorrect point here. I have since used the KZread snipping tool to remove it from the video to prevent any spreading of incorrect information. *_____** Corrections **_____* 5:54: The Knights Cross of the Iron Cross was worn around the neck. Richter actually only has a Iron Cross 2nd class here, but still is a "combat medal" 8:23: These are not 20mm cannons, but 37mm cannons. 11:16: There actually was an altitude reader back there, the gunner could read it while the pilot focused on the target 20:54: It was fairly common practice for soldiers to only loud 5 rounds into the Lee-Enfield to prevent spring failures 21:00: The Panzer 4 F2 had a 75mm cannon, not a 76mm 23:33: These are not "Modern plate carriers". They are Italian ‘Samurai’ vests. still very misplaced for the German forces however. My apologies for these errors. This was my first ever Historical inaccuracy video and I have learned a lot since the publishing of this video years ago. I strive to create more factual, detailed and reliable sourced back information for all future content.

@Possiblyabird234

4 ай бұрын

It’s alright dude! You didn’t know.

@bros1183

4 ай бұрын

Also at 10:15 you stated that here we see an army Air Force poster, which the Air Force didn’t exist yet. Your correct the USAF did not exist until 1947, but this poster is accurate. It was the United States Army Air Force that existed throughout the war, most bombers and fighters have USAAF, not USAF. So you are correct the USAF didn’t exist, but you are switching up the USAAF and the USAF

@bros1183

4 ай бұрын

And at 12:50 you ask what the airman was going to do shooting the plane with his .45, but seeing as his machine gun couldn’t move to get a shot I would not be surprised if an airman would do exactly this. They are issues sidearms, and in times of early war pilots have shot at each other with sidearms. You ask what the round will do, well, if it hits maybe a lot. Zeros where horribly armoured, so a shot to the fuel tank would certainly rupture it, and then all it takes is a spark to see the zero catch on fire. Zeros always caught on fire, and honestly shooting a .45 cal at the zero isn’t as far off as the British spitfires at the start of the war used .303 machine guns, and after all most us fighters used .50 cals. Now certainly the .50 is much better and more powerful, but at point blank range I think his pistol could hit something vital, make his attacker return to base.

@rottytherottski522

3 ай бұрын

In regards to reloading one handed I will say that the sniper is doing it way too fast like in a lot of these games, but being able to reload magazines one handed is indeed possible. Its something ive even been trained in with multiple styles to stay in the fight if one arm has been wounded to the point it is inoperable. With a rifle it usually means kneeling down with the rifle in the crook of your knee for support and loading the magazine with your good arm, it could similarly work with a pistol but racking it would be difficult if it wasnt locked to the rear where you need to hit the slide release to send the next round into the chamber. So the way they are doing it is very false and deserves a inaccuracy, but the fact they did it to begin with isnt unheard of. I dont know of any training for it in WW2 but I would be surprised if people didnt do it to keep fighting with some weapons.

@matthewcharles5867

2 ай бұрын

The loading 5 rounds in the Enfield due to spring failure is absolute bollocks. It did not happen. I'm surprised there's no lighsabres this game is one of the worst I've ever seen.

Imagine being so good as a soldier that you get a medal for a battle that hasn’t happened yet

@lucasguenesmenezes6416

Жыл бұрын

LOL

@ghostremnant_2499

Жыл бұрын

Я на четыре параллельные вселенные впереди тебя( I am 4 parallel universes ahead of you.

@BreakingWhite

Жыл бұрын

@@lucasguenesmenezes6416 😐

@BreakingWhite

Жыл бұрын

😐

@LeonardoStupidKenway

Жыл бұрын

Duh

My man did more research to make this 26 minute video than the entire Call of Duty team did making CoD Vanguard.

@hudsonhornet6558

Жыл бұрын

Cod just doesn’t care these days like the visuals are great but half the time incorrect and the story would’ve been good if you were completed oblivious to reality but when you aren’t the storyline is just bad like the only thing you can really enjoy in this game is being able to be in a ww2 setting in a newer game that’s it like multiplayer has good maps but only the basic modes to play with zombie well not even gonna go there that’s strait ass and boredom it’s like cod only cares about war zone and just simply putting a game out if they want good reviews they need to put legit time into the game to make it proper realistic accurate and worth the players time

@jaegermonster9549

Жыл бұрын

@@hudsonhornet6558 Merry Christmas! Here's a big bag of punctuation! I hope you make good use of it!

@ghostfate4701

Жыл бұрын

Imagine if D-day was in the game

@HazmattMorningstar

Жыл бұрын

@@jaegermonster9549 Heh that made me wheeze that's a good one

@CommanderLongJohn

Жыл бұрын

@@ghostfate4701 Probably would've had 500 women singlehandedly storm and take the beach while the men coward in bombed out ditches

The worse thing about this game isnt the inaccurate weapons, its the disrespect they give to so many heros and good people in the war to the point they just make up lies about them to cast them in a bad light.

@The_whales

9 ай бұрын

And try to use a fake secret project to tie it in with real events

@ivanmonahhov2314

7 ай бұрын

RPG is first used with RPG-40 an Anti-Tank Grenade of 1940 design. A rather questionable thing as it was a massive high explosive capable of shattering a 40mm plate.

@lovelylavenderr

6 ай бұрын

@@The_whalesMaking fake WW2 stories can work well, just look at Sniper Elite or Inglorious Basterds. The difference is with those, they both tried to be historically authentic (accurate uniforms, weapons, units, etc.) but they also don't try to pretend it was real. They know they're supposed to be historical fiction and they run with it.

@tshelby5212

5 ай бұрын

Worst

@GBomb9704

2 ай бұрын

Not only that, the campaign itself is just a shameless rip off of Inglorious Bastards

The best thing about Vanguard is that it makes playing World at War so much better

@CrossOfBayonne

11 ай бұрын

And the original CODs too.

@ibelieveingaming3562

9 ай бұрын

Vanguard was so bad it even made WW2 good retroactively 😂

@M3a4Stuart

9 ай бұрын

Fr Fr

@Pogger927

8 ай бұрын

And COD WW2

@joshuahill8681

4 ай бұрын

And hell let loose .

Activision: “we want diversity!” Also Activision: *Proceeds to ignore all the different possibilities for real diversity in favor of downright criminal levels of historical inaccuracy*

@xXEGPXx

Жыл бұрын

I mean they literally called it an alternate history game and then yall got mad that the history is wrong. What did you expect?

@applesandgrapesfordinner4626

Жыл бұрын

@@xXEGPXx They weren't clear about it either way

@smoldoggy1005

Жыл бұрын

@@xXEGPXx Alternate history in this sense is garbage anyway. They should've done something way cooler and interesting, like if the USA took japans place in WW2 on the Axis. Something fresh and unique, instead of having blacks kill whites.

@sandalogaming6766

Жыл бұрын

Hell, if they make a section of the campaign in the latter parts of the Italian front with a focus on the Brazilian Expeditionary Force, and make it somewhat right ofc, it would sell a ton. Hell, don’t even make a full COD, just a $5 tech demo would send Brazilians wild with the recognition that we fought in WW2. But no, the Brazilian Expeditionary Force mf we got is a goofy ahh guy in a winter ghillie suit and a goofy ahh mask.

@stokedmetal1839

Жыл бұрын

The part with the Australian player character being discriminated against even though it doesn’t make any sense what so ever historically is just hilarious. You can tell they were just going for diversity and civil rights points on WW2 battlefields where it doesn’t make any sense.

Another fun fact: Almost every detail in the older CoD titles were more realistic with better attention paid to detail. Edit: I have over 7.5k likes on this comment and I'm not going to add "Mom,..." get the camera or "I'm famous." Bc that's not cool😎 Edit 2: Bruh, I'm not saying the older CoD titles were realistic, just more so in comparison. Pls stop with the hate

@berkuhsnaps

Жыл бұрын

But we have anime tracer bundles

@anonyme7429

Жыл бұрын

Most funny part is the midway and the japanese weapons

@deralbtraumritter8573

Жыл бұрын

This looks like MW2019 with COD WW2 skin

@kelpking4484

Жыл бұрын

Well they didn't have a weird feminist as a writer in the other ones vanguard was made buy weird feminists

@DerAllerEchte45

Жыл бұрын

All the reload Animations are from MW19 like pistoles or mp‘s

Being an Italian, I feel bad for the constant lack of representation of Italian troops in almost every game presenting the Nort Africa front. This does not only occur in Cod Vanguard, but also in other games such as Battlefield V. Medal of Honor Airborne was probably one of the few games to do this, which I gave them props for.

@justacanadianguy07

Жыл бұрын

enlisted would make you happy.

@pyromphh

10 ай бұрын

wish they had more axis soldiers instead of japanese and german soldiers only

@MasterChief968

9 ай бұрын

Wish they had Indian soldiers in the games . They never portray them

@simple-commentator-not-rea7345

9 ай бұрын

I gave Call of Duty 3 props for featuring Polish soldiers during the battle of Normandy, but given how mid THAT game was overall, and how insultingly dumb this one is, I'm actually kinda glad Call of Duty's not interested in other countries.

@minorfirebrine2429

9 ай бұрын

Mafia 2 features a ww2 mission at the beginning where you fight Italians also. Crazy how a single mission in a game about being a criminal is more historically accurate.

13:30 There was a parachuting us pilot in WWII Owen John Baggett actually is believed to have hit and possibly wounded a zero pilot with his service pistol, its better than not trying anything

@maulidahsap

10 ай бұрын

Well yeah but the only reason that He even manage to kill the zero pilot was because the pilot was opening His Hatch and Owen capitalize on that chance

@benque7491

10 ай бұрын

Good to know I’m the only one who came out with him in my mind at this time

@BodieB

6 ай бұрын

Should never disrespect real life heroes and make them look like cowards for "reasons", it's terrible to the struggle they went through.

I like how Activision, trying not to look racist or sexist since all the leaks & whistleblowers & employee walkouts happened, tried to be more inclusive in this game while forgetting all the real inclusive heroes & soldiers during WW2.

@JoeyEX

Жыл бұрын

They also used a “diversity chart” to add in the most diverse cast by assigning number values to things like ethnicity, age, sexuality, gender, mental capability, etc. they used this for Vanguard and Overwatch 2 and probably some other games still in development under Activision

@irenakaleva1171

Жыл бұрын

@@JoeyEX thats Blizzard. They are the same company but are still 2 destinct yet equally parts of it.

@CMTechnica

Жыл бұрын

Or EA with Battlefield 5

@LFGerm

Жыл бұрын

@@JoeyEX thats a norm for everything today, from TV shows to Movies, to Games

@Astartes-6969

Жыл бұрын

@@CMTechnica Battlefield 5 at least had more realistic guns.

The fact that the dev's put the stg44 in Japan AND before it was made is incredible. Like, did the dev's not question what the 44 in the rifles name ment?

@F.Fox714

Жыл бұрын

Idiots maybe thought it stands for .44 caliber on a german assault rifle 😂

@MRXrayfire

Жыл бұрын

My guess is that the devs wanted to put Assault rifles there for gameplay purpose, and went for the STG thinking "it's a game, no one care" 🤷‍♀

@thegyroneer32

Жыл бұрын

Despite the Type 11 being in the game.

@niggasinanutshell6590

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/nalmstyEh6m2pso.html It’s finally here

@weed75black35

Жыл бұрын

stg44 with reflex sights.

Makes Return to Castle Wolfenstein look like a documentary.

The devs of this game were so obsessed on adding racial, national and gender diversity that they ended up ridiculing every group they were trying to appeal to with such cartoonish inaccuracies. Not to mention the total disregard for every other form of historical accuracy.

@Jean_Jacques148

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. WWll was a diverse war with people of all colors, but represent them accurately and don’t do it willy nilly. So glad this game failed.

@palestinianchildrenannihilator

Жыл бұрын

i know bf5 also isnt an historical masterpiece, but if the cod devs wanted to show heroic african soldier they really should have did the same move as bf5 did with the Tirailleurs campaign, depicting a somehow historically accurate battle that was won by black legions. Of course imo at least african troops stood no chance against german paratroopers, but that is one way of showing that africans also fought in ww2. i personally think that it would have been a lot more smarter to show how africans fought in africa, or show the story of the The red tails squadron

@yoshikagebuma7941

Жыл бұрын

@@palestinianchildrenannihilator or what they did in bf1 which honored the black soldiers of WW1 when you first enter the campaign

@purplebatdragon

Жыл бұрын

I'd be SO down for showcasing the real stories of diverse soldiers, but I truly wasn't expecting blatant racism. Seriously, the entirety of Bougainville is worse than a Family Guy skit. How was it at all considered "inclusive"?

@palestinianchildrenannihilator

Жыл бұрын

@@purplebatdragon dont shit on family guy

COD Vanguard expectations in Stalingrad: *Brutal house-to-house, urban combat* COD Vanguard Stalingrad in reality: *Assassin's Creed and Sniper Elite knock-off*

@vanillarain3789

Жыл бұрын

It’s never house to house with Cod

@thesniperhunter-ef3iz

Жыл бұрын

@@vanillarain3789 then you sir never played finest hour and up.

@carlsonraywithers3368

Жыл бұрын

​@@vanillarain3789Play Call of Duty 2, it's a good game

@nathandei1674

Жыл бұрын

@@vanillarain3789 World At War: Am I a joke to you?

@solid7442

Жыл бұрын

​@@vanillarain3789 world at war enter the chat

There's a lot you've missed in Stalingrad, a lot of things in Sniper's apartment, for example the fact that Papasha has both Soviet and Imperial awards, or also there's some more inconsistencies with magical t-34-85 from future, for example it has white stripes on turret used for allied aviation identification. Also german soldiers are using stg-44s during battle of Stalingrad somehow.

@user-mo4yt1fu3n

9 ай бұрын

maybe it's the very early MKb-42, but activision fucked all of this

16:40 blud thinks he's in warthunder fun fact: 10 December 1943, there was this Tiger Tank gunner (Kramer) that got angry about the sound of Russian fighter bullets bouncing off the tank. So his commander, Carius, let him shoot at them. On the second shot he got lucky and hit one in the wing, bringing it down.

The absolute best were the Germans charging downhill, the Japanese soldier speaking perfect English, and the V2 rocket suddenly becoming pilotable

@kilovwdude6457

Жыл бұрын

The v2 really fucks with me the whole point of the v2 is shoot it and hope it hits where you want

@marcosgonzalez4207

Жыл бұрын

The V2 joke was only... a joke of them

@EasyBakedTroy1365

Жыл бұрын

@loganpickells8305

Жыл бұрын

The best ones for me were the volksturmgewehr being not only full auto when it was semi auto only, not full auto, but also being apparently present in the early war when it was decidedly a last ditch weapon. The other I could not stop laughing about were the german weapons in Japan, and the Japanese weapons in Germany. It was like the devs just wanted you to be able to use all the weapons, but couldn’t be bothered to figure out a natural way to do it.

@Broskisunited

Жыл бұрын

I guess wade really wants to die

A real red flag for me was when, I think it was a voice actor for this CoD, said "We want to give CoD iconic and recognisable characters because they never really had that before this game" when there are a whole array of characters: Price, Soap, Ghost, Gaz, Roach, Makarov, Woods, Bowman, Hudson, Weaver, Alex, David and Harper to name just a few.

@silverskull7669

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he was thinking about WW2 characters, but then he would be wrong again, since we already have: Reznov, Dimitri Petrenko, Roebuck, Miller, Polonsky.

@Wanys123

Жыл бұрын

Well none of them were "diverse enough"... you need a black guy, a chick, etc.... I reckon when Vanguard 2 or something along those lines comes around there will be black translesbian.

@lieutenantratman748

Жыл бұрын

@@silverskull7669 don't forget the entire ultimis crew

@falaramal3979

Жыл бұрын

@@silverskull7669 winters, Simpson, mad bill guarnarre. The list of wwii heroes is longer then the war itself

@lieutenantratman748

Жыл бұрын

@@falaramal3979 the guy meant characters from the games not real life

The one about the scared soldier turning from a real human to another ai was the best

Did you forget that in the mission set in Stalingrad in 1943, in the initial scene we see the officer standing on top of an SDKFZ 231, a vehicle that had been withdrawn from active service since 1940, so it is practically impossible that it could have been used in Stalingrad in 1943 *+1*

@RMD94

6 ай бұрын

Must have been early 43 if it's in Stalingrad

@TheGekko94

6 ай бұрын

@@RMD94 this does not change my point, the 231 6 rads were removed from active service already in the Polish campaign since their weight/power ratio made them suitable for guiding panzer columns only on well-maintained roads, such as those of Austria and Czechoslovakia , but when they had to face more difficult terrain, such as the terrain of Poland, they demonstrated their limited capabilities, being replaced by the 231 8 rad and then by the 232 8 rad which both had much better off-road performance.... therefore Russia that he has never seen it, not even by mistake..

Its kinda messed up how they disrespect the real lives lost in WW2 for cheap political points to satisfy people on twitter. I understand changing the specifics for gameplay reasons, but these changes don’t make the game any better. it’s just changing history for modern sensibilities.

@TheFrosty_1

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, claiming to be historically accurate but then butchering history to shove a narritive like this game did is just a massive disrespect to the people that actually lived through these events

@ninjapants7688

Жыл бұрын

Phhht. You might as well say all game devs disrespect the real lives lost in every war. COD has been too gutless to name real places and real battles in their modern games like The Battle of Fallujah. Then again, if they did that there would be an uproar then too, see 6 Days in Fallujah. It's always pick and choose whats offensive and whats not.

@teru797

Жыл бұрын

People on twitter mind you who dont even buy these games

@xXEGPXx

Жыл бұрын

Bro what the fuck are you talking about? The entire point of COD is using tragedies to make games for kids, they are intrinsically disrespectful to troops even if it was 100% accurate

@aveteranplayer6403

Жыл бұрын

@@xXEGPXx Lmao, I don't think you ever played WAW then. That game plays like a fun game but they did give respect for the subject matter, is not disrespectful showing war as an entertainment to our eyes while showing like it was. Movies do it as well, probably you shouldn't be liking Private Ryan because that movie made veterans go crazy on theaters and this is disrespectful? No is just a way to actually show to the young generation what war is really about. Using modern ways of entertainment to represent historical events is not disrespectful, play WAW and see how despite the fun the game it is, it is the best one when showing a campaign of brutality and grittyness of the war itself. The game was so highly age restricted that if you show footage of the cutscenes alone your video gets demonetized

Hey there! I worked as a QA tester at Activision during the course of Vanguard's development and I can wholeheartedly say that I submitted a lot of these historical inaccuracies (specifically anachronistic/unrealistic weapon placements, weapon details, and smaller nitpicks like the "Bugger that RPG" line) to the developers via impressions surveys and bug reports. They all fell on deaf ears. You were just as frustrated as I was and I worked on the damn thing.

@TheFrosty_1

Жыл бұрын

I'm gonna take your word on this, that is actually really cool my man, it's sad that they just didn't listen though. Typical Activision

@someguywithnochallenger8178

Жыл бұрын

@@TheFrosty_1Activision is a factory of games they don't care love your videos I love history

@kilovwdude6457

Жыл бұрын

@@someguywithnochallenger8178 is your name referring to a dodge challenger? Or are you looking for a fight if it's the latter, I challenge you to a duel.

@someguywithnochallenger8178

Жыл бұрын

@@kilovwdude6457 lol it's the car I should probably change my name

@kilovwdude6457

Жыл бұрын

@@someguywithnochallenger8178 yea. And like maybe up your standards the hellcat is awesome in a straight line but is a pretty cheaply built car. I'd rather have a Audi,BMW or mustang honestly maybe go test drive a challenger and then test drive a sport car/lux car not made in our amazing country. My duel offer still stands.

After playing through Vanguard, I’m honestly surprised this video isn’t 5 times longer.

Some of these inaccuracies are so bad it makes you think that they intentionally went out of their way to mess up everything.

so basically it's like as if the people in those "stolen valor" compilation videos on KZread got together and made a game... 🤣

@TheFrosty_1

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, both comedically butcher and disrespect servicemen and the real events. I've seen comedy movies that portray WW2 better than this game 😆

@redchiron6647

2 жыл бұрын

Take note that this game was written by the same person who wrote Mass Effect: Andromeda

@abiyusadu9974

Жыл бұрын

@@TheFrosty_1 actually having 5 round in the lee enfield is more historically accurate, since you fully load the rifle with 2 clips of 5 rounds each you do get the option to load 5 rounds to either avoid getting the rifle jammed or save time under enemy fire, soldiers did this in both world wars. also since these characters based on real paople but has some made up things doesnt bother me, cuz these ware fictional people so its perfectly fine to give them fictional facts

@aveteranplayer6403

Жыл бұрын

@@abiyusadu9974 No the weapon is not nore accurate. The gun should have the option to reload with 10 bullets with 2 clips of 5 rounds instead of being only 5. Also the way the Australian guy holds the weapon is incorrectly compared to what they did hold back in WW2. So it is not correct at all

@aveteranplayer6403

Жыл бұрын

@@TheFrosty_1 Lmao, I've seen 5 minutes of WW2 portrayed by a Mafia game better than this

Got to love how this game managed to insult literally every nation depicted in the game: •America by ruining Midway and making it look like the war was lead by African Americans, somehow insulting both white and black Americans who fought •Britain especially in the El Alamein mission, all with cockney accents and insulting the characters based on real people, making the high command look like they’re still in the 19th century. •Australia and New Zealand by forgetting that New Zealand exists and making Australians wear bush hats, surprised you weren’t armed with a boomerang too. USSR completely shit on the bloodiest battle in history and has the Gaul to say that the only reason they won was because of 1 person, and not the 100s of thousands who sacrificed themselves. •Germany, cartoonishly villainous, yet somehow despite making them all evil, they don’t actually depict how bad the bad ones really were at Stalingrad. •Japan ‘dO yOu SpEAk jApaNEsE?’ •Italy, like New Zealand they forgot they were at Tobruk and El Alamein, although not enough to forget to include the guns. I don’t expect much from a CoD game, especially in terms of historical accuracy, but how the fuck is World at War more accurate even when they made sure that their characters weren’t based off real people? Vanguard literally advertised their game as a depiction of real life heroes.

@klutzspecter3470

Жыл бұрын

Didn't take you for a snowflake.

@SeismicGuide

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, Aussies *did* wear Slouch Hats in the war, there are photos of this. Just as many if not more of said photos than ones where they’re wearing helmets, in fact. Mind, the Slouch hat is a modified Bush hat, from memory.

@Krondon-SSR

Жыл бұрын

woah hows black soldiers fighting at midway an insult to america xd

@Dude-zn5be

Жыл бұрын

@@Krondon-SSR i think it was more of an insult to the solders the white ones by making it seem they didnt do shit idk about the black solders since i didnt bother to buy another ww2 game after playing cod ww2

@TheByQQ

Жыл бұрын

The only nation they didn't insult is Poland, because they forgot Poles took part in the war too.

11:58 there actually was an altitude reader back there, the gunner could read it while the pilot focused on the target

I was actually watching this video while playing call of duty vanguard to see all the things that you pointed out, which were historically inaccurate. This was a great video!

What happened in Stalingrad according to the game: This one strong female sniper was so heroic and brave that her actions single handedly changed the course of the war! What happened in Stalingrad in reality: you run you die

@sherlybrizuela2072

10 ай бұрын

#nomoreweed

@Iguy_empire

10 ай бұрын

Skill issue

@camaroneedsanewdesign4892

10 ай бұрын

Mary sue moment

@ladywaffle2210

10 ай бұрын

The one with the rifle...

@catchcan221

10 ай бұрын

The disgusting PC world we live in. Pretty soon they’re gonna make games where transgendered, Muslims in wheelchairs single handedly won the Korean War.

And another thing regarding the Stalingrad mission, the whole city looked too luxurious for an industrial powerhouse

@magicman3163

Жыл бұрын

Probably because Russia called MW2019 Russophobic so they gotta make the past they idolize look like a utopia

@emulation2369

Жыл бұрын

At that time in Staligrad, things were already grim , unlike sunshine and rainbows in vanguard

@marcusaurelius4941

Жыл бұрын

who could have guessed that in a big corporation such as Activision there would be people inclined to depict life in socialist countries better than it actually was?

@jhorn64

Жыл бұрын

in the SOVIET UNION to boot which was not known for its citizens having luxurious anything to begin with

@captainfreedom3649

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusaurelius4941 yeah who could have guessed? becuase what you say does not happen.

There was such thing as a duel-magazine MP40 called the MP-40/I but it was EXTREMELY RARE. (I heard about it on the KZread channel "Forgotten Weapons" featuring the incredibly knowledgeable Ian McCollum.)

@Pogger927

8 ай бұрын

Gun Jesus's Channel.

The fact that the cruisers were missing their turrets is plain inexcusable.

“It’s the end for me! I’m as good as dead already!” “You’ve got a job to do.” “Fair point, I hadn’t considered that. I’m all good now.” Bethesda level speech check right there.

@The_whales

Жыл бұрын

*speech increases by 20*

@thinkingboi9508

Жыл бұрын

"I am going to die" "Die later pls" "Ok"

@CommissarChaotic

10 ай бұрын

thats one of the most hilarious shit ive ever seen

@CurtisAmosJR

10 ай бұрын

adler

@aidaonYT

9 ай бұрын

crazy how someone can singlehandedly do a decade worth of therapy in 6 words

The Shell-Shocked Soldier: I'm depressed! Kingsley: No, you're not! The Soldier: Yes Sarge!

@McYumFucksHobbitsInIsengard

Жыл бұрын

If there were more Kingsleys depression won't exist

@TheExperienceYT

Жыл бұрын

George "I slap the PTSD out of my soldiers" Patton would be proud

Reject gaming, embrace reality Honestly the actual stories of what they’re based on is really awesome

The Fourth Reich scene killed me. As I love the WW2 German uniforms, seeing any inaccuracies puts me into cardiac arrest. The main antagonist (Forgot his name) was wearing the Golden Nazi Party badge, but it was huge, the random Army General to the right when they salute is also wearing it, but it is much more accurate. Also the badge would have been worn above all chest decorations besides the combat clasp. Also the aforementioned Army General was wearing a bunch of medals, and whilst I’m not 100% sure, some of them definitely do not exist. Also his service medals (the two blue squares) should have silver or gold eagles to denote their grade. Also the 1939 clasp to denote that the person earned the Iron Cross in WW1 (Seen above his iron cross on the chest and on the tunic button) are inaccurate, they look more like the breast Eagle insignia that was part of the standard uniform, as their wings were too wide and they lacked the plaque underneath. Also he for some reason has a sleeve Eagle and breast Eagle even though for regular army, their eagles were worn only on the breast

When a game released in 2008 has better historical accuracy, continuity, game content, overall fun level, better multiplayer and better telling of a war story than a game released almost 13 years later, world at war is fucking epic

@CrossOfBayonne

Жыл бұрын

Even COD WW2 was better than this bullshit

@farhanrizkiahnafa7404

Жыл бұрын

The first CoD, WaW, and WW2, while they were better than Vanguard, still had a lot of inaccuracies. So well, what do you expect from a simple arcade shooter that turned into one of the most famous and controversial franchise?

@CrossOfBayonne

Жыл бұрын

@@farhanrizkiahnafa7404 WW2 was a bit off but WAW and the first COD games were historically correct almost 100%

@Arts_by_Umar

Жыл бұрын

@@farhanrizkiahnafa7404 Bro did you even play WAW? List some actual inaccuracies then (Not including the couple of reused assets in the Stalingrad mission)

@TheMessiahOfThe99Percent

Жыл бұрын

@@CRT_YT trench gun

When a 26 minutes long video was more entertanining than multi million dollars video game. You deserved more views.

@TheFrosty_1

Жыл бұрын

Thank you dearly :>

@sircleishere385

Жыл бұрын

the amount of inaccuracies is downright disrespectful at this point

@thehomiepatchez

Жыл бұрын

fr. theres a activision employee that makes KZread videos. i feel he is the embodiment of activision: arrogant, and too comfortable at the top. activision used to care back when the previous generation was working there. nowadays its all lazy ass people around my age in there 20s or 30s bunch of arrogant mf who think anything they make is a masterpiece when it actually is crap.dont take the time to research or even cross check their facts.

@NetralFN

Жыл бұрын

@@sircleishere385 yeah like bro everyone that learned basic WW2 history knows that it's not possible to have a Japanese weapon in Germany in a train

@captaingalaxy5265

Жыл бұрын

@@NetralFN At this point I don't think Activision even did very basic history

I usually got into CoD by playing the campaign first. I was one of those unfortunates who bought the game, believing that the campaign was going to be like the stories told in Medal of Honor and Blazing Angels 2: a WW2 story that is fictional in nature, but rooted in the deep historical authenticity that has been cultivated by not only past WW2 CoD titles, but also past WW2 games and other WW2 media. A WW2 story that was going to tell the story of the first special forces, such as the SAS, the British Commandos, the Devil's Brigade, the SOE, and the OSS just to name a few. Instead, what we got is a stinking pile of the most politically correct nonsense I have ever had the misfortune of ever playing in my 26 years of existence, as well as the most cursed gun attachment combinations I have ever seen. I feel bad for Jonathan Ferguson for having to endure those cursed guns, but at least he has his emotional support STG-44 to rely on.

This video was posted on the 14th of January 2022. And then on the 28th of September the same year, Sledgehammer added a modern-day bullpup assault rifle and a futuristic plasma cannon into a WWII game.

You know it’s kind of funny. Every decade the depictions of WW2 Germany become more and more cartoonish and ridiculous. It’s like they are some fictional supervillain faction. Mark my words, in the 40's people will know them as a fantasy-tier race with soldiers casually drinking blood and shooting red lasers of evil demonic power out of their eyes.

@juannicastro8598

Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@HickmanJu00

Жыл бұрын

Who the fuck cares? Nazi are BAD people. I imagine not all the soldiers agreed with them. But, for Hilter to get in power, he was well like. By the people, not the government. He spoke to the Germans in a very vulnerable time. It kind of mirrors what is happening right now, with the far right in the USA.

@lollikabosso.w.n7153

Жыл бұрын

By 2050, i guarantee we will no longer have reason to hate nazis, as the bastards of today shall make them seem fictional

@juannicastro8598

Жыл бұрын

@@lollikabosso.w.n7153 At one point, they will make us hate more Activision itself more than the soviets.

@EchosTackyTiki

Жыл бұрын

Space Nazis with and army of Mechahitlers. That's what I envision them as in 20 years.

The inaccuracies in Vanguard hurt me both as a historian, and as a gamer. the amount of inaccuracies and how noticeable they were, just added to the amount hatred I had for this game.

@crossing9892

Жыл бұрын

nerd

@user-mg7wh8zq6v

Жыл бұрын

Gamer

@lanxy2398

Жыл бұрын

It’s a video game. Stop living in a game. There’s a world outside

@anoriginalname410

Жыл бұрын

@@lanxy2398 What, is it illegal to criticize a game that is meant to be historical?

@lanxy2398

Жыл бұрын

@@anoriginalname410 Of course it’s not illegal dont be dumb but it is stupid and weird to be critiquing video game historical accuracies in a game that literally never claims it will be accurate to actual history. Also at the end of the day it’s a GAME who cares.

15:32 Also, it was pretty unlikely for a bullet to fully penetrate a flamethrower tank, let alone fly out its user's chest after.

Three more that I see that were missed are: Around the 2:48 mark, the SS officer is not only missing shoulder boards, he has the arm rank insignia of a corporal and is also wearing a crush cap that he never would have been authorized to wear if he were only a corporal. He'd only be issued the garrison cap and the field cap. Regarding the Owens gun and the Aussies, not only was the Owen's not being produced yet, but only troops in the pacific were ever issued the weapon. Aussies in Africa would be carrying M1928 Thompsons. The Panzerfaust 60 wasn't being produced yet either, and never saw service in Africa. The Faustpatrone was the earliest version, and went into production concurrently with the end of the Africa campaign, but didn't make it to the front until after. Western Allied forces didn't encounter the weapon until the Sicily landings.

The shell shocked soldiers that you just say "let's go we got a job to do" and they immediately get up and start fighting is so hilariously bad, what an awful attempt to show PTSD

@pop000690

Жыл бұрын

I saw that and went "That's just General Patton's wet dream"

It’s disgusting that they said that the colonial African soldiers simply “married” the German women there. That’s like saying the Japanese soldiers simply married the Chinese women during their occupation of China. But of course, you can’t say anything remotely bad about their crimes at all or you’re considered a racist. The writers 100% knew what they were doing when writing this in, and it’s astonishing how less people have pointed this out. Also, with all of these historical inaccuracies in the game, with many of them so simple a 10 year old could probably notice it, as well as the disrespect for many of the real life people displayed in this game, it’s safe to say COD games don’t have any thought or care behind them anymore. Well made video.

@TheDigitalApple

Жыл бұрын

I guess the developers considers rape to be ok if the perpetrator was black.

@bobjohnson9806

Жыл бұрын

equall as bad american soldiers “marrying” vietnamese GIRLS (children)

@MeanBeanComedy

Жыл бұрын

They're People of Magic. Can't criticise their crimes. Did you know it's actually your fault they did that?

@datboy1628

Жыл бұрын

Given what I have read about it, it feels like the it was over exaggerated

@klm9440

Жыл бұрын

@@MeanBeanComedy Also it’s alternate history; the ideal universe that makes them look good is the only true one

I think another thing worth saying about the Volksturmgewer, is that in Call of Duty terms, it would likely be considered a tactical rifle; as the Volksturmgewer was not full auto, but semi auto. Due to the fact that this was the "People's Rifle" A.K.A. this was meant for citizens of Germany.

Another addition to the Australian Soldiers wearing slouch hats at 22:16. They are wearing the 7th Gen pattern Rising Sun badge which was put into service from 1991 onwards. The one they should be using is the 3rd gen pattern which is bronze coloured and not gold plated

Lovely how the whole reason CoD began with WWII era games was to honor the memory of the soldiers who had fought, and newer CoD games such as Vanguard basically mock the purpose it was to uphold

@Jimbotheone

8 ай бұрын

The new games try to champion empowerment and the adversity of discrimination. They care about implanting "the message", while numbing the player with fast pace action. History is just a plaything to them.

@a6pukoc113

8 ай бұрын

Not because WW2 shooters were popular in first half of 2000s and CoD developers are ex-devs of Medal of Honor?

@ricochetos5019

8 ай бұрын

​@@a6pukoc113 En parte si pero también respetaban lo que paso en la vida real, vanguard no.

@NALTOHQ

8 ай бұрын

Makes total sense that a game series meant to honor soldiers adds a new playable character in Nicki f**king Minaj. Ick.

@ricochetos5019

8 ай бұрын

@@NALTOHQ En efecto bro

I’m fine with sacrificing some accuracies for fun/balance. But this is just completely unbelievable

@farhanrizkiahnafa7404

Жыл бұрын

Would make sense if it was a deliberate alternate timeline like Wolfenstein.

@inspecthergadget4503

Жыл бұрын

@Farhan Rizki Ahnafa even Wolfenstein were more believable. Alternate timeline sure, but still makes more sense than this woke dumpster fire.

@MrFusion

Жыл бұрын

BF1 is the perfect example of this. Yeah it has some inaccuracies, but they're almost always for the sake of gameplay, and even then, it's mostly just the weapons and vehicles that are somewhat inaccurate.

@Molag-balsDeep_

Жыл бұрын

It was the reloading panzerfäust that got me to angrily type 22:39

@temperspace

Жыл бұрын

​@@Molag-balsDeep_i was expecting a lot of inaccuracies, but that one made me physically chuckle

On the topic of the weapons... wow. I could go on all day about the errors made about the weapons, but some of the most egregious include. The MP40 being chambered in 9mm makarov in game instead of 9mm Parabellum The Mauser C96 (Refered to as the machine pistol in game) being listed as chambered in fucking 50. cal pistol ammo The Thompson being chambered in 5.7x28mm, AKA the caliber created for the P90 which was created 45 YEARS after WW2 ended. The Volkssturmgewehr being portrayed as automatic, when in reality it was semi auto (its supposed to be Volkssturm-gewehr "German Homeguard Rifle" not Volks-sturmgewehr "Peoples storm rifle") In the gunsmith, it is possible to turn a PPSH-41 into a PPS-43, which is not possible in real life. Its possible to take the stock off the MG42, which makes it impossible to fire because removing the stock removes the recoil spring. It is possible to add grip tape to most weapons, which is something that was not common place in armies untill the 21st century.

@vexy26

Жыл бұрын

Yea and let’s not mention all the monsters of builds of guns we can create

stalingrad citizens just chilling while the front line is moving towards them is crazy, was there a single historian consulted while making this game?

@polskabalaclava

6 ай бұрын

Nope

5:44 damn this dude rolled a natural 20 on charisma, he made his fellow soldier having a panic attack throw himself to certain death in the EXACT moment he said "just go lmao"

@LuvzToLol21

Жыл бұрын

It's also funny that Kingsley says "we've got a job to do", which was Bell's sleeper agent activation phrase after being brainwashed in Black Ops Cold War. Maybe it's a callback, lol.

@floydy8359

Жыл бұрын

@@LuvzToLol21 what do the numbers mean mason?

@herrdoctor2895

Жыл бұрын

Man was literally slapped someone's head he is Patton and said "get up lol"

@depressoespresso8116

Жыл бұрын

@@LuvzToLol21 Cold War was 1000 times better then this

@konankunoichi94

Жыл бұрын

@@depressoespresso8116 I'm so glad I didn't buy this game.

Fun fact: The revolving shotgun was scrapped after multiple occasions of the chamber firing back onto people.

@ShudowWolf

Жыл бұрын

This shotgun was chosen over the Trench Gun. Fascinating.

@picklejho69

Жыл бұрын

not to mention the issue with it firing out of the Chambers that weren't lined up with the barrel. Which sounds like fun until you remember one of your hands is in the way.

@twiztedmind209

Жыл бұрын

@@picklejho69 that's why you never use revolving rifles/shotguns. Chain fire will mess you up if your hand gets in the way

@zielonythewolf5069

Жыл бұрын

Source?

@Vitruvitous

Жыл бұрын

@@zielonythewolf5069 it had a port for the shell to come out and sometimes it would actually waste a round by firing the gas back at you through the hole. Not hurting you really, but a fatal design flaw.

Bros the history teacher everyone want

Volkssturumgewhers were semi-automatic, however they’re portrayed as fully-automatic in the game

This game from the developer perspective: Minorities [✅] Females [✅] Discrimination [✅] Fuck everything else [✅]

@bldontmatter5319

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget: diss every old cod and throw all old characters under the bus, and act like they invented a way to craft gold from paper

@theuberedredspy8791

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention butchering every gun they touch. I know that COULD be classified as 'fuck everything else' but mother of GOD the guns are so unbelievably butchered that it EARNED it's own spot on the checklist lmao

@niggasinanutshell6590

Жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/nalmstyEh6m2pso.html It’s finally here

@vinteb7987

Жыл бұрын

Random shit go ✓

@AleksanderPeterJensen

Жыл бұрын

The fact you call women females says enough about you

its a damn crime that this video only has 700 views. Very well put together

@TheFrosty_1

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! :>

@CarlinJacks

Жыл бұрын

It has around 17600 of the time of wrighting this comment

@drawingrobot9255

Жыл бұрын

21k now

@teru797

Жыл бұрын

It's because he wasn't woke enough. They certainly dont want that fact about black french soldiers being known

@yeahrightok.3975

Жыл бұрын

It's not though is it, most people are not stupid enough to buy a cod game and expect it to be historically accurate. Pointless video. It's cod, get a grip.

7:57 *casually walks in-front of a tank*

I’m not into cod but I really enjoyed this video. Thanks for this. It was cool and you clearly put in effort with research. Nice one mate.

Reality:stalingrad was retaken because of soviet solders holding the line and waiting for reinforcements to encircle the city Cod:a single person held stalingrad and inspired all 11 million solders to go on the offensive

@EnclaveChad

Жыл бұрын

When Cod WaW and the original cod is more accurate than this "game" and they are both over 10 years old

@yoavmend1909

Жыл бұрын

@@EnclaveChad didn't the Stalingrad mission in cod waw had the exact same thing tho? You sneaking around with one other guy and taking out half of the Nazi occupiers?

@lordkfc1297

Жыл бұрын

@@yoavmend1909 in that mission you meet by chance another survivor from the fountain massacre that then convinces you to help him hunt a german general. Your actions in that mission don't lead to the liberation of the city.

@DonVigaDeFierro

Жыл бұрын

@@yoavmend1909 No, and no. Any other question?

@Typhoon_Lex

9 ай бұрын

​@@lordkfc1297Finest Hour. Hell of an intro

There were no tactical reloads during WWII, they hadn't been developed yet till much later.

@TheFrosty_1

Жыл бұрын

That's is a good point too actually ya thanks

@michaelwiff2576

Жыл бұрын

@@TheFrosty_1 Your welcome.

@cckiller0053

Жыл бұрын

What's a tactical reload?

@michaelwiff2576

Жыл бұрын

@@cckiller0053 it's a little hard to explain, but a new mag is in one hand and the pistol is in the other hand, release the empty mag and slide in the new on in less then 5 seconds, its kinda like a fast mag reload.

@aleksilepisto7282

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelwiff2576 Im not sure where that ever became a tactical reload. You're talking about combat reloading/speed loading. Tactical reloading is the practice of changing the magazine before it's empty, thereby keeping your weapon full and trying not to run out of ammunition in a gunfight. When you're doing CQB for example, when you enter a target, you perform a tactical reload if you've fired your weapon so you don't enter and clear a structure without a full magazine.

21:43 you're right about the lee enfield capacity, but the problem is that the soldiers wouldn't fill the magazine to max capacity because that would make the spring to fail, just like they did on the bren lmg

Hipfiring was a thing with the MG42, called "Sturmschieße" (stormshooting) meant as suppresivr fire while assaulting. Although of course, that what you can do in-game is stupid

I'll add some: 1. The Brits cannot and WILL NOT put a Black soldier in a special forces. The black soldier cannot even reach the higher rank. 2. The Type 95 Ha-Go only armed 37mm gun, only one Japanese tank, the Type 97 Chi-Ha later variant CAN destroy a Sherman, but in a close range.(Side note: If you trying to destroy a Sherman with Type 95, you can only destroy it by attacking it's back from close range). 3. On the German helmet, it should be a Swastika or a SS emblem, not the Imperial emblem. 4. The He-177 'Greif' was a unreliable heavy bomber, it was mostly used to bomb Moscow. 5. If you notice, during the North Africa mission, you see a the plane already used the black and white stripes, this is very inaccurate. The black and with stripes was used in 1944 to prevent friendly fire. 6. The Mitsubishi A6 Zero was easily to catch on fire, so it's impossible that Zero can keep flying even though it was shot. 7. The Japanese should wear helmet, not a normal cap. Reason is, because they were in a battle. 8. Really a soldier fight keep fighting even though that soldier already burned?? 9. STG-44 in Pacific? It was impossible. All German Navy almost ceased to exist because of blockade and air raids in 1943-1945. 10. The Battle of Stalingrad involved not only German Army. Romanian, Hungarian, Italian, and other Axis country involved during this battle. 11. If you realize, there is a goddamn Panzerschreck in North Africa. This is inaccurate. The first Panzerschreck was used in 1943. 12. The SA or even SS doesn't participate in the North African Campaign. 13. The main antagonist should already a Reichsführer SS, not a lieutenant. 14. There is no way a German plane can fly get out from Berlin during the Battle of Berlin. It's only possible if you fly the Me-262 and Arado Ar-234. There is actually still lot of historical inaccuracies, but I cannot write it all because it will take days.

@TheFrosty_1

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for pointing these out, I respect to commitment

@KIA_--

Жыл бұрын

The imperial colours on the Helmets are historical accurate for a Wehrmacht soldier,only the Waffen-SS had Swastika and SS Emblems on their Helmets and even that only in the earlier stages of the War. Japanese soldiers often wore their field caps in Battle due to better protection against sunstrokes and other aspects of the tropical pacific clima. The minor Axis forces in Stalingrad (italy,Hungary) dindt take Part in the House to house combat shown in the game they were stationed at the outskirts of Stalingrad and to the end of the Battle in the begining of 1943 they were mostly destroyed and the only one really left at the end were the Germans.

@GregoySilalahi

Жыл бұрын

@@KIA_-- ah, thank you for correcting. I appreciate that.

@AManWithNoName

Жыл бұрын

Stalingrad also had volunteer forces such as Bosnians and Croatians aswell due to mostly Axis empty promises to Croatia and the Bosnians.

@greysonholtzclaw5276

Жыл бұрын

@@AManWithNoName Would be cool to see the Battle of Leningrad so we could fight the Azul Division, which was the Spanish volunteer division that Franco sent because of obligations due to Germany supporting him in the Spanish civil war.

The disrespect towards Australian troops by trying to make them "victims of prejudice" is beyond insulting and I'm not even Australian

@floydy8359

Жыл бұрын

I am Australian, can confirm it's insulting.

@GuinessOriginal

Жыл бұрын

Quit whining you roo fiddler

@konankunoichi94

Жыл бұрын

I'm not Australian, but I can also confirm it's insulting.

@nealang9520

Жыл бұрын

I too am not Australian, but can confirm it's insulting

@BreakingWhite

Жыл бұрын

I am not Australian, can confirm it’s insulting.

23:33. I'm a year late but I have to correct it. The vest that the German is wearing existed. It's called a samurai vest, used by the 185th Folgore Paratroopers. It stored MAB 38 magazines so idk what it's doing in the hands of the Germans. It's Italian though so it is an inaccuracy.

My son and I do ww2 living history. We had a great laugh watching this video. Good job!!!

They literally got every detail wrong. I can understand some levels of creativity to make a game fun, but this level of inaccuracy is just terrible. Also, what really bugged me is that they claimed that they’d be exploring “new and forgotten” theatres of war when it was announced, yet every theatre (Dday, Stalingrad, the Pacific and North Africa) have all either been done at least once or done to death in the COD franchise. I’m thankful I didn’t buy this mess and just watched the campaign on KZread.

@Austin.D

Жыл бұрын

Ikr it made me want to go back and play all the older cod ww2 games like 2&3

@hentielover

Жыл бұрын

so true. Like what about the burma and chinese fronts? such forgotten fronts in WW2 pop media and about India and China, the two largest countries today. such big markets to market towards. So even from a corporate point of view it would've been nice. But no

@dootmarine1140

Жыл бұрын

That latter point so much! I wish they explored things like the Italian campaign, the 1939 polish campaign and the liberation of poland by the red army, hell I'd have loved a paratrooper operation surrounding D-Day (I don't think those have been done in a CoD before?), Chinese campaign, god... There are so many stories in WWII and they really chose the worst

@Someone-lr6gu

11 ай бұрын

@@hentielover >the two largest countries today Did you mean countries with the most population? Also, Chinese and Indian markets have their own specifics. Just because there's a lot of people in there doesn't mean they can afford your game (cough cough, india) or even be able to buy it in the first place due to local restrictions (cough cough, china).

I don't know if others pointed this out, but the mission "The Rats of Tobruk" were set in the middle of the desert. Tobruk is a Seaport City and we see no coastlines anywhere in the game.

@Hamburger_SV

Жыл бұрын

history legends did

@arklados3596

Жыл бұрын

President Eisenhower back at it

I recently decided to finish vanguard’s singleplayer campaign since i mainly played multiplayer on this one…. I ain’t no WW2 expert but i consider myself well informed about it …Your video kinda confirmed this weird feeling i had playing all along, that A LOT of stuff in this game was odd and clearly not accurate. The japanese guns in the train in the first mission did trigger my « historic-sense » haha

Always feels like he's very close to just breaking into laughter. It's just great!

I think the one thing that pissed me off the most was the replacement of Charles Upham. Now, I'm from New Zealand myself so that probably had a hand in my reaction, but erasing my entire country's existence in the game is disrespectful and disgusting to every ANZAC soldier who fought in WW2. Also, the erasure of the British commander in the D-Day mission and making him out to be a coward is horrid, as is rewriting every Soviet soldier to be inspired by a single female sniper rather than love of their country and brotherhood of their army. This game looks pretty and that's about all it has going for it.

@jadonlimoges1830

Жыл бұрын

Heh it looks pretty when there aren't 17 enemies clipped through each other

@Vanishingink4

Жыл бұрын

Also the Soviet soldiers fought the way they did because Stalin read Mein Kamf and understood Hitler meant to exterminate the Soviet’s. So Soviet soldiers knew it was die fighting or die under occupation.

@shagarumagala710

Жыл бұрын

THATS WHAT I THOUGHT

@biscuit3397

Жыл бұрын

cry more about new zealand. NZ sucks balls

@m.m.124

Жыл бұрын

Love... "not one step back" "order 227"

20:24 Fun fact, they misspelled "Mittelmeer" (Mediterranean Sea in German) as "Mittlemeer". They couldn't even look up a single word.

@Gnar05

Жыл бұрын

Okay, das tat weh..

@chriss7005

Жыл бұрын

omfg that one really hurt me as a german. Thank you for pointing it out

4:15 Sidney Cornell was issued an M1 Garand as apart of his kit, so technically it is accurate, even if he wasn’t there

I'm surprised you didn't touch on the names they gave ammo types aswell, such as the "Sakura" rounds which I'm assuming is renamed from the 6.5/50mm Arisaka rounds

I remember when people said that holographic scopes are historically inaccurate in Battlefield V...Well in Vanguard almost all of the scopes are holo...

@rebelgaming1.5.14

Жыл бұрын

And even BFV had the guts to put an actual historical reflector scope on most of them to explain the holos. Reflector scopes first saw very limited service during the Second World War. Here they're literally just holo scopes.

@anuszbizsergetokommentek2171

Жыл бұрын

Game devs really like holograms

@JavaScrapper

Жыл бұрын

@Roniixx how is this whataboutism?

@JavaScrapper

Жыл бұрын

@Roniixx doesn’t that refer to accusations and like arguments? This doesn’t sound like one

Replaying WAW I realized that most of of the inaccuracies you mentioned here was never a thing back then. Just goes to show how well made a game from 14 years ago is compared to a fairly modern one.

@someguy7629

Жыл бұрын

It also did not shy away from all the war crimes comitted by the allied forces (U.S and Russians).

@skylol6258

Жыл бұрын

@@someguy7629 definitely. I remember reading a book one time that said something along the lines of "a proper war story will not romanticize any part of war. It will not hide the flaws of any sides nor will it hide from the atrocities and horrors of war. A true war story will show war for what it truly is: death. There is no real victory in war." WAW portrayed this PERFECTLY, while WW2 and Vanguard does the complete opposite.

@johnlasley975

Жыл бұрын

Actually, i have noticed some inaccuracies. In my 6th run of the game. 8 years after i first played it. Honestly, those problems (a.e. mortar shell not having timed fuse, flamethrowers have endless fuel or Soviet 12.7 AT rifle having scope ) are not very easy to pick up, because you dive head deep in the game and some unrealistic moments just slip out of your zeitgeist in favor of story and horrors of war

@bldontmatter5319

Жыл бұрын

@@johnlasley975 which really says a lot when those are the mistakes made. And the flamethrower is infinite ammo because of gameplay design, meant to last the whole level. They programmed all fire weapons to run on "gas" which actually can't run out in the coding. Very strange

@obiwaankenobi4460

Жыл бұрын

WAW was filled with inaccuracies, no one points them out because it *felt* accurate. Vanguard doesn't.

Correction, the Nydar sights used were actually a real thing, just not widely/used in general during the conflict

Your videos are so indepth that i hope you make more videos like this & I'm also subscribeing.

As far as the pilot with the 1911 is concerned, there is one recorded pilot to pilot kill with a 1911. His name was Owen Baggett and he shot the pilot of a Japanese Zero in the head killing the pilot and resulting in the plane crashing. The odds might not have been great, but not zero. Otherwise top tier man!

@coolsceegaming6178

Жыл бұрын

Heh… not Zero… nice one.

@LusciousLebel86

Жыл бұрын

He was also not in a plane but descending down in a parachute

@TouhouFan

Жыл бұрын

The guy was in a parachute The japanese pilot was checking on him with the canopy open bc he was hit with a bullet and he was making sure the guy was dead The american in that moment, shot the japanese while exposed

@kylc3299

Жыл бұрын

@@coolsceegaming6178 Didn't even realize I did it. lmao

@kylc3299

Жыл бұрын

@@TouhouFan @Sgt Stalinium, Both very valid additions. I was more focused on the handgun vs. pilot more than I was every detail, but those details do decrease the chances for it ever being repeated while helping Baggett the first time around for sure.

Ottoway’s mistake wasn’t just an inaccuracy. That is a flat-out insult to his courage. Very sad, given what call of duty had been

@The_whales

Жыл бұрын

The person above has a point^ | |

I learned a lot from this video. Thanks!

@TheFrosty_1

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it!

The “Not one step back” rule didn’t 100% mean to kill all retreating soldiers. It also meant to send out soldiers to regroup all the retreated soldiers and put them back into combat

@ComradeKits

Жыл бұрын

it's an incredibly misunderstood order

@matiasfpm

Жыл бұрын

@@ComradeKits for propaganda reasons. Everyone loves the commies 😏

@jeanhamilton3296

11 ай бұрын

@@ComradeKits Yeah Enemy at the gates really blew it out of proportions.

@reecedignan8365

11 ай бұрын

You are correct sir. The order made it so that each army would form what was the “blocking detachment” but at the same time these weren’t these massive military unit but around 200-300 men supposed to supervise close to 10,000+ Their primary duty if a major retreat happened by a unit would be to find the instigators of it and hold a trial for them - with usually the primary instigator being shot - and the remaining instigators sent to the new penal battalions. The rest would be sent back to their unit or another unit as reinforcements - tho sometimes they made sure to split them up to prevent similar collapses in morale. But yes primary duty would be to scour the lines and find people who were either hiding or kind of sitting away from the fights. They didn’t always accuse these guys of retreating or cowardliness but sometimes it was just a person getting left behind during a advance or retreat on accident or having been in such a dangerous situation that they stayed put and missed the main advance. Sometimes it was runners and such that got lost or scouts who had become cut off or even full on teams/squads of men who have been hunkered down doing their job but didn’t catch a communication for a thousand reasons. But yeah their primary duty wasn’t to shoot people and even the order itself instead was more focused towards high ranking commander who continued to misplace/retreat their armies and brigades from combat out of fear they’d get overrun and abandoned some pretty decent positions due to it and in many times got more men killed on the retreat vs standing and holding.

@akosbarati2239

10 ай бұрын

It is hotly debated if the order was real and how often it was carried out and it is not being made easier by Russia denying access to non-Russian researchers. Well, even Russian researchers can't publish anything that paints Soviet Russia in a bad light. Hell they have a standing law jailing anyone who denotes the Katyn Massacre anything other than a Nazi war crime.

The fact that, in this game, you become an ace in a day with just a dive bomber after shooting down the Pacific Theatre's best fighters at that time (before Corsairs & Hellcats took the stage) is beyond hillarious

@seskorirkeashimrui3556

Жыл бұрын

There was a case where three zeros attacked two dive bombers that already dropped their bombs and the dustless bombers were maneuverable enough to scare them away. But no one was shot down during that engagement.

@thericepotato5847

Жыл бұрын

I'm a pilot. Prolly under the radar for this one but jumping into some random ass plane you've never flown before like that? Good luck. Every plane has different controls, gauges, procedures for takeoff, landing tolerances... Startup procedures. And they did it as if they've flown a hundred hours on the plane. There's a reason you don't really hear many stories about soldiers "commandeering" planes as opposed to other sorts of vehicles.

@joshu4776

Жыл бұрын

The ammount of battleships defending those carriers was also comical xD

@Utubesuperstar

Жыл бұрын

@@thericepotato5847 facts

I didn't know that you reviewed this game, but I'm so glad you did lol

One extra sin for this game, the Type-11 LMG uses hopper system that you put 5-round stripper clips into it. The game just removed that feature with character replace the hopper. (no, you cannot do that on the field) Also Type-11 is designed to be operated by two soldiers and used in fixed positions. The gun didn't do so well in real life so it was replace by Type-96 and Type-99.

BTW, when you get to the Russian sniper's apartment, you’ll hear Steiner say “We’ve already taken Stalingrad”. Did they even have actual historians help with the game?

@owen2x917

Жыл бұрын

Why even ask that. It’s evident that they didn’t lol

@loganicfilms1388

Жыл бұрын

No.

@Shotgun_Only

Жыл бұрын

They did take Stalingrad, actually. They just got cut off from the back due to weaker Romanian and Italian forces guarding their rear, and then they failed to break out of it

@loganicfilms1388

Жыл бұрын

@@Shotgun_Only It took them like 3 weeks to get to the end of the city while in the game it’s been like 3 hours maybe.

@Shotgun_Only

Жыл бұрын

@@loganicfilms1388 blitzkrieg!!!

23:57 While the U.S. soldiers were trained to use the M1911 with one hand, interviewed veterans often mentioned they used it with both hands because it was inefficient to use it one-handed. This doesn't mean all WWII soldiers who used the M1911 did so with both hands, but it makes such a practice plausible.

@yocapo32

Жыл бұрын

It still doesn't really change the fact that they're using a thumbs forward technique that was invented about 60 years after WW2 ended, *and* modern magazine retention reloads.

@kattengustavsson9821

Жыл бұрын

@@yocapo32 You dont "invent" ways to hold weapons, the soldiers are traind one way but in the field the use them the way they work best for each individual. So amongst all the good points this was bad.

@the_real_Kurt_Yarish

Жыл бұрын

​@@kattengustavsson9821 You literally do invent ways to hold weapons. Every fighting style and technique had to originate from someone, or from several people over a range of time. This includes operating firearms. While yes, a soldier may improvise their own techniques in certain situations, this doesn't change the fact that it would be an unusual departure from their highly specific training. It would be even more unusual that these improvised techniques "just happened" to be nearly identical to the specialized pistol handling techniques that were primarily developed and implemented during the 1970's, and yet somehow make an appearance during the Second World War.

You know it's sad when Enlisted more accurately matches these battles with only like 1/4 the buget of CoD

5:44 This is literally what General Patton thought shell shock was lmao

@fiskersproductions

7 ай бұрын

It's worth noting that this exact scene appears in the 1930s version of All Quiet on the Western Front. Where the protagonist's drill instructor is too shocked to jump over the trench and into a bayonet charge until his CO tells him to, whereas before he was refusing when regular soldiers were telling him to

Keep in mind that this game's campaign is fictional and the average Joe probably isn't going to know that any of this is not true so basically my friend you are doing a public service by teaching people about world war II and I commend your efforts my dude

@TheFrosty_1

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@poopyjoe7435

Жыл бұрын

Every world war based game shouldn’t have to be exactly history correct but just the majority; if it was exactly correct then the game wouldn’t be fun

@TheNeon-rh4kk

Жыл бұрын

No the devs basically highlighted this as "historically accurate" back at the reveal. 🤡

@Balls1335

Жыл бұрын

@@poopyjoe7435 It’s entirely possible to make a WW2 game as realistic and historically accurate [as possible] without ruining it’s gameplay value. EA DICE did it with Battlefield 1, where there was a perfect blend of realism and historical inaccuracies for the sake of additional content (with the only exception being the Hellriegel 1915, which literally only existed as a speculated prototype, evidenced by soldiers field testing the weapon in a few pictures but that’s the only evidence of it’s existence).

@VexingWeeb

Жыл бұрын

@@Balls1335 cod waw I felt was historically accurate enough. it doesn't need to be completely accurate, but enough to suspend disbelief and not give false information about key aspects of history

22:41 fun fact: in the first COD game, you get rid of the panzerfaust after you use it. so basically panzerfaust is depicted correctly in a 2003 game but not in a 2021 game lol 24:10 another fun fact: in world at war, these tunnels are actually flooded and you get caught in the flood

@Arts_by_Umar

Жыл бұрын

Yes I loved the original CoDs for doing that. Not to mention you would be required to be sitting near a stack of Panzerfaust crates in order to replace them and not just grab them out of thin air according to some ammo count

@nicholasnguyen5181

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention that there’d be soviets, not a single elite made up group.

I've heard more "pings" in this one video than anywhere else, and I love it

The holographic sight you mentioned around 2:00 is actually a Nydar-47 gunsight that was made in 1945 (for shotguns) and so with a stretch of the imagination, could get a pass on WW2 games in multiplayer modes.

Love how we went from one of the most realistic cods in mw, to the most unrealistic cods in cold war and vanguard, it's evolving just backwards.

@MrDueltube

Жыл бұрын

Well Cold War was a far better game than Vanguard at least regardless of realism.

@godlymonkey

Жыл бұрын

Even if cold war is unrealistic its fun unlike this piece of dog shit named vanguard and most of the historical inaccuracies can be dismissed in cold war

@negan2128

Жыл бұрын

@@MrDueltube Even though it is really fictionalized I agree with the cold war part. At least the story is a lot more enjoyable

@MadChristoph

Жыл бұрын

COD 4 and WaW on Veteran difficulty made you feel like you were in a war, it was really hard to complete

@MrDueltube

Жыл бұрын

@@MadChristoph Very true.

Obviously this game is terribly historically inaccurate but some of these details are so specific. It’s crazy how much this guy knows about ww2.

@gumslice

Жыл бұрын

And I thought I knew a lot.

@luckyluciano1584

Жыл бұрын

This guy did more research than the devs

@chrismoore488

Жыл бұрын

@@luckyluciano1584 clearly

@chrismoore488

Жыл бұрын

@@luckyluciano1584 I don’t think it’s that the devs didn’t do their research I think it’s just they literally don’t care about the history.

@The_whales

Жыл бұрын

I know it’s not made in the unreal engine but due to how historically inaccurate vanguard is, I wish it was

The "What is that?!" Line and the scream fit so well in the segment of the cursed guns 😂

Tanks for tuh great video.

For me - the real inaccuracy, as russian - was about Stalingrad: 1)Father of Petrova girl - have a RUSSIAN EMPIRE medals, and also a Portrait of him with Russian Empire Army Suit. THIS - can easily - make him to arrest as Political Dissident/Prisoner, and easily go to - not ordianary Soviet Prison, but a GULAG. 2)He have a almost Penthouse-type apartment - which NOT existed in USSR even. Also - in USSR? After our Bloodiest, Russian Civil War - having THIS(!!) TYPE of apartment?! You got to be joking - bcs, IRL - if people would know, HE live in such luxurious Apart. - it's gonna be a suicide/deathwish to live here. 3)Whole this Ap. - have stuff -which ordinary Soviet citizen, CAN'T HAVE: Gold Samovar, not only one Samovar - BUT MANY of them, GOLD-skinned(?)/plated electric wires, Gold Teaplates and etc. B_tch! I think WE ARE FOUND A SOME RICH RUSSIAN EMPIRE "kulak" here!!! If NKVD would know about this Ap. - he srsly AFTER that, is gonna be found dead. 4)Stalingrad - was not European-styled City... it actually was - somewhat a Technological City/MonoCity, or how we called - "MonoGorod"-type . Many panel house, AND MANY(!) Factories/plants and etc. For Americans or Westerners - just imagine a Detroit. Or even just New-Jersey... That's it. For example - how, this city was a MonoGorod with many factories: PPSh's was mainly been produced in Stalingrad... even then Germans invaded Stalingrad - PPSh's Factories was still in active(!!!). Even in blockade of this city...

@VexingWeeb

Жыл бұрын

i honeslty can hardly read your post

@stargazer4326

Жыл бұрын

@@VexingWeeb Don’t be obtuse, it’s ESL but readable

@lemons1559

Жыл бұрын

@@VexingWeeb tldr: the man was wearing and possessing items that would have gotten him to the gallows a dozen times over.

@AManWithNoName

Жыл бұрын

Your grammar sucks fucking ass, barely was able to read your points. Use grammarly or spellcheck fucking jesus

@F.Fox714

Жыл бұрын

Тоже у их лица просто не русская :)