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Usually not a fan of Line 6 products. But to be honest, I must confess it's impressive. And the price range of HX Effects is really good. Well done !

@christiaandemarezoyens4720

3 жыл бұрын

I've always been a fan (with the exception of the hideous Variax), I still have the very first Pod they released. I'll receive my HX Stomp tomorrow, can't wait!

@JeremyJames_studio

3 жыл бұрын

@@christiaandemarezoyens4720 How did you find it Christiaan?

@christiaandemarezoyens4720

3 жыл бұрын

@@JeremyJames_studio I'm still getting familiar with everything this product can do! But so far, I'm really pleased with it. I work with film scoring and use a lot of guitar with multiple effects instead of synths like most composers use. The Stomp has many uses for me. For example, I can record with it at night so that I don't pester the neighbors with my amps by using the amp/cabinet sims. They are great and by using effects before the HX I can have two different configurations (stereo) of amps and cabs. Another way for me is to place a whole bunch of pedals as inserts so that I can bypass them, use the stomp effects and for a different part bypass them and use mine going through it. I really like the compressors in the Stomp and the copy of classics like Tube Screamer and Fuzzes are really good!

@JeremyJames_studio

3 жыл бұрын

@@christiaandemarezoyens4720 Yes it does sound so versatile. I already have a captor X for silent recording but I gotta say those stereo outs are seriously tempting!

@adownbeatexegete1549

Ай бұрын

Helix era Line 6 is way different than the POD era.

Fair comment here: Most of the effects in Helix sound really good and indistinguishable (from their analog counterparts) in a mix.

@hadeseye2297

3 жыл бұрын

"in a mix" Yes.

@mehegama

3 жыл бұрын

@@hadeseye2297 and in general. there are loads and loads of vids that prove that in a blind test you cannot tell them apart. Not just helix but all major players in modelling

@hadeseye2297

3 жыл бұрын

@@mehegama "in modelling" Well I hear a big difference between my Katana and Blackstar valve amp. And their response to pedals is also different. But it all boils down to the tone you are into. There is this guy who's name I always forget. He plays his gigs using unmodded squier bullet among many other guitars. You can find interview with him on Marty Music channel. Guy plays bluesy stuff.

@georgechristiansen6785

3 жыл бұрын

And there is also the question of settings. Enough tweeking and i'd bet anyone money they could not tell the differences.

@AdamManley7

3 жыл бұрын

@@hadeseye2297 the katana is a solid state amp that’s not the same as digital modeling like the higher end helix stuff or the new pod go

I'm watching and listening to this at a professional music recording studio through professional monitors. From what I can tell, the HX comes extremely close to nailing most of the time-based effects like, chorus, delay, vibrato, phase, etc... but when it comes to the distortion pedals, it tends to sound a bit on the thin side. Still seems like it's worth the money.

@adityabali1939

3 жыл бұрын

Nothing some minimal EQ can’t fix

@Krabin_

3 жыл бұрын

An Eq could help the thinness, but I completely agree. Almost every effect was matched almost perfectly except heavy distortion. Thinness can be fixed with an eq, but even the dynamics seemed off to me. Still, the helix is awesome!! Me wanty

@feliperodriguez5390

3 жыл бұрын

Agree... not sure if warmth could be good with EQ

@benjimontgomery9826

3 жыл бұрын

Moreover, we shall not forget that having a lot of pedals on the board causes a significant signal loss through the whole chain, so the overall tone could sound even thinner than an Helix HX (unless you use a buffer and one or more high quality power supplies). In this test, the single pedals are compared to the HX one by one!

@ctnicetune141

2 жыл бұрын

And yet this isn’t its main purpose. Does so much more but shows the versatility.

Great demo. This machine is marvelous. All the effects are so close tomthe originals that if those had sounded like this, they would still be bona fide classics. In a mix, nobody could ever tell the difference.

Just the fact that you can set up 128 unique pedalboards and the quality is 99% of the standalone pedal makes this so worth it. Want to set up a jack white pedalboard? Done. How about a Nirvana pedalboard? Done. What about your Pantera sound? Black album board, psych rock board, or a Hendrix board, or set up a board per song and use snapshots. It's so versatile and I think the exact answer I've been looking for

I used this in my rig for two years. With tweaking everything that’s emulated was able to be indistinguishable from its analog counterpart. The folks saying there are huge differences ... I call BS! Spend the time and tweak the effects

@arkman117

3 жыл бұрын

Huge differences no, almost indiscernible.

@ChickenThug55

3 жыл бұрын

Agree. Unless you have a main guitar solo portions like doing blues n stuff and it just sounds totally off because your setting on the HX is totally off. Even so, all talented players will make anything sound good.

@GearStuffandThings

3 жыл бұрын

@@ChickenThug55 you’d just have to set things per song which is super easy in hx

@2tallB

3 жыл бұрын

Re: tweaking - I think he could have had a better comparison if he took the time to match the tones better, there were often simple EQ differences. Also, it should be played through an amp not an OX. Other than that, it's still interesting.

@giannilauriola4863

3 жыл бұрын

In una scheda audio si. Prova in un ampli.

Well done video - thank you! The actual pedals sounded better to my ears almost every time but the differences were fairly subtle and I don't think you'd notice them in a live setting with a drummer. Great unit to gig with.

@laneonguitar64

3 жыл бұрын

plus, the settings could be bumped/tweaked a bit.....it is a great pedal in any situation.

@newstuff1107

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if you had the image of the real pedal during the Helix audio if you would have guessed the same.

@gweeboyoda

Жыл бұрын

​@@newstuff1107 I went back and forth a couple times. The Line 6 consistently seems to always be a bit compressed, and there's a mild kind of warm background fuzz. The disparity is particularly noticeable on one of those last distortion pedals. But the first thing I clocked was the chorus not ringing or conveying as much space. Dunno how easy it is to fix these things if it's enough to make you care.

Can we just stop and admire some of the rare classic pedals here??? Great video.

The Tube Screamer with the Marshall sounded 80s metal as hell. Just out a smile in my face… and I’m not even a metal head!

... my conclusion: the HX sounds really good

@johnvcougar

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, it's its own thing. Fun comparison, tho'

@rocksteady9115

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds thin to my ears

@johnvcougar

3 жыл бұрын

@@rocksteady9115 it's very tweakable, and you have to invest time to get the sounds you want, but it pays back in flexibility and "remembory", plus the ability to send out external commands etc. I confess since getting mine I've hardly powered it on, being a bit disappointed with the OOB sounds, but watching the unit being used in the hands of the likes of Pete Thorn gives me the hope that there is a path forward. In the interim, my analog boards have grown substantially, so I've got some work to do before it satisfies my own comparisons. But I'm up for it.

@rocksteady9115

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnvcougar I'm sure it's use able but to my ears I don't like the digital thinness, I'll stick with the old school approach that has worked for 40 years

@johnvcougar

3 жыл бұрын

@@rocksteady9115 sure, mate, I get it. The HXFX is the only digital unit I have in my arsenal apart from my Ox, a DAW and my Korg keyboard. I'm an analog guy too.

Love seeing those old school pedals! Would like to see a part 2 that compares the klon, zendrive, KoT and maybe some classic reverbs.

@robertguitar1746

3 жыл бұрын

Up!

@JohnShalamskas

9 ай бұрын

I watched a youtube video where the KoT was pretty much perfectly emulated on the Helix after a lot of tweaking, especially the eq. It used up 2 blocks though. Since I already have a KoT, I prefer placing it between the guitar and my HX Stomp XL. Saves 2 blocks and has dedicated knobs. Downside is no way to save settings, takes up more space, and requires more power and signal wiring.

I came here to see the RAT sound, didnt sound as good imho, but all the other effects were very close, been considering this or a stomp to open up some more fx options and I can still use my rat at same time. Thanks for the demo, amazing matching and comparisons. Appreciate the effort to set this up.

@shortorderproductions8688

3 жыл бұрын

There has been a new RAT model added that sounds much closer to a real RAT. Line 6 stated that their original model was bugged.

@MarlonKingShow

3 жыл бұрын

@@shortorderproductions8688 thank you, really helpful to know.

For the most part, a lot of the pedals are indistinguishable from the physical pedals, and this makes the Line 6 practically a pedal killer. I've heard versions on my Stomp of the Klon Centaur and Tone King and they're very close to the real ones so as far as I'm concerned the HX is plenty good enough 👍

@NuisanceMan

Жыл бұрын

The distortion ones are easily distinguishable, as is the Electric Mistress Some of the others sound a bit different, some very close. All of the differences favor the analog.

These are close enough IMO that you can figure out which pedals you like best before your amp and experiment with different tones. If you get something you really like or want to incorporate in your core tone then go out and get the pedal it is emulating as yes, the actual pedal is going to sound a little better and probably be more responsive, sound better stacked with other gear, etc.... And you will still have a host of other very usable effects to work with in the HX. Some of which not only sound good, but actually really good. Another huge benefit to me is how readily you can play and switch the order of the effects or add modulated delays/verbs.

Most of these effects sounded great, and the pedal seems like it can be set up in a lot of practical ways that would reduce the number of cables I run. I think I'll buy one... ...and a separate ProCo Rat.

@dyas4881

3 ай бұрын

too true

Great demo! I tried the Helix, but my problem was that I just sucked at tweaking it. I prefer my pedals and amps. It's more work in a way, but I have limited options, which is good! I still have a lot of versatility with pedals, but I don't have option paralysis and endless tweaking syndrome.

Great demo. Nicely done. Also...I didn't realize the 70's chorus and the Pebble Phaser could sound that nice. Great stuff.

I got rid of my Mobius, Time Factor, BB Xotic as well as Blue Sky reverb once I got HX Effects. It's simply amazing, you won't be able to tell the difference. Obviously you need a very good valve amp. I go with JK Amplifiers.

@DamienSawyer

7 ай бұрын

I got rid of the valve amp when I got a line 6 Catalyst.

Got to admit, I prefer the real pedals every time here but in terms of value for money the HX is really good

In my opinion analoug effects are always better sounding but for the money line 6 is realy good and probably the best sounding multi effects unit on the market. Although the trem sounds more like a vibratone than a tremelo

Time based type effects sound amazing and some of the drives not as good but it’s convenient and amazing value plus it works great as an amp controller. We are spoiled for choice these days.

The Boss DS-1 sounds so good here

Excellent comparison! almost no difference on isolated tracks so no one will notice a difference in a mix or with a band, the HX effects is the best value for money multi FX, pair this with a Tone X One and you have a super compact and powerful rig

I’m an acoustic looper and I use the line6 HX effects. Gotta say it’s amazing and such a space saver!!!

Helix sounds really good. The three pedals I didn't like were RAT, Big Muff and Arbiter Fuzz. The rest were very good, good or acceptable. Actually it's kind of interesting that pedals like fuzzes with very simple 5 transistor circuits are the most difficult to replicate...

@jimyoung9262

2 жыл бұрын

And most of us have a crap ton of them anyways😉

@KJ4VGA

2 жыл бұрын

Most if not all vintage fuzzes change depending on what is before and after them, so they can vary A LOT, even using the same exact pedal.

@JohnShalamskas

9 ай бұрын

Chaos is difficult to model. Fuzz and heavy distortion is very chaotic.

After watching this video, I feel like I don't know what reality is anymore. I'm gonna get an HX soon, kudos to you guys for making this illustrative video.

For me playing my hx stomp or analog pedals the biggest difference is in the compression of certain frequencies, resulting in a kind of filtered sound sometimes, and obviously usually less noise with the hx. Most effects are close enough to the originals to get the desired effect, and are probably even more desirable for recording. But I tend to use my analog effects for live sounds due to the more dynamic response and easier adjustment of settings. I don’t love using the hx knobs to tweak on the fly

Thank you for doing this comparison. Very good showcase. I actually just bought one of these to maybe use in conjunction with my analog pedalboard and I'm sorry. This thing comes close but it has an overall harshness that has been really displeasing. Even when just using delay and a clean amp signal the overall tone just gets harsh. Has anyone else experienced this? Many of these kinds of demos don't demonstrate distortion correctly. You really need to listen to what happens as the sound dies down and it doesn't compare to the analog pedals at that level. I still may keep it for the dealy, etc. It is a good and overall versatile box that I can see many uses for but the purist snob in me has questions. lol

that small stone tho 😍

This is the video I was looking for earlier this year! Thanks for the simple but effective comparisons.

Line6 really made a great line. Used to be an all analogue guy, now for semplicity I bought a HX effects, never going to look back.

They all sound great, just like the originals. Impossible to tell in a mix.

Plot twist, they actually switched the audio so all the analog pedals were the HX and vise versa

@jmclen7

2 жыл бұрын

I know that’s not true. The Helix ds-1 is just not right. Has this ridiculous sag that a properly functioning ds-1 doesn’t have. Still don’t know how they managed to mess that one up (as good as the other models are) but it can be clearly heard in the HX Effects demo here.

@MrHoogoorock

2 жыл бұрын

@@jmclen7 it’s in the programming setup in the helix , you can fix that issue.

@jmclen7

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrHoogoorock Oh really? Something like lowering the gain/changing the impedance? I know it can’t be that it was poorly modeled. Has to be a bug of some sort.

@MrHoogoorock

2 жыл бұрын

@@jmclen7 I do agree with you on the modelling, to me a big miss in the mid frequencies less full sound. to my point in bridging the gap in the difference have a look at the settings on the ds1 versus the helix for one the tone is right down on the helix. I’m going to jam on mine now to see what I can do, might even put an eq in front of it.

After having my memory man and my Digitech space station break on me at the same gig I bought the effects and no cap it's the best decision I've ever made

I’ve never had any luck with digital models of analog drives and distortion. To my ears, none of them come close. My trusty duo of Boss SD1 & DS1 will never leave my board.

this unit is amazing I have one worth every cent

Listening on good headphones, the difference is clear; the digital stuff lacks the vitality of the analogue. I hear it particularly in the high end; a lack of presence and air, but it’s more than cold frequencies; it’s the way they behave.

Wow! The Helix effects seem close enough to the real thing to be practically indistinguishable. Even then, the physical pedals sound perhaps slightly different, not necessarily better.

@zenquad

2 жыл бұрын

Well, to my ears the analog versions sound better every time. More dynamic and natural sounding.

@alexisdepena8635

2 жыл бұрын

@@zenquad 😂

@zenquad

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexisdepena8635 Don't you think so? Might be tone deaf then

@alexisdepena8635

2 жыл бұрын

@@zenquad i think you are a tone snob

@ST-ry7lr

2 жыл бұрын

​@@zenquad I think if you were hearing these in person you could make a quality distinction, which would subjective, of course. But by the time you hear anything on youtube the sound has been converted and compressed so many times it's impossible to properly assess the sound quality of any of these devices.

I read all comments here. Some say this not what you expect other says it's worth for the price good sounding. But for me what ever effects out there it's still in the hands of guitar player.

I'm not a pedal snob, but I think every original effect sounded better than the HX. It was simply a matter of what sounded more inspiring. I didn't expect that.

@danielsandaarhus

3 жыл бұрын

Same!

@xdoctorblindx

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I was expecting to not be able to tell much of a difference, but there was definitely some mojo missing in the HX emulations.

@Two_Seat_Pete_FatA55

3 жыл бұрын

No doubt, but in the context of a full song mix, Especially when frequencies of guitars are beating cut or boosted to sit in a mix, who would know? And I say that as someone who uses analog pedals.

@xdoctorblindx

3 жыл бұрын

@@Two_Seat_Pete_FatA55 Good point. I just think that so much of guitar "sound" is really about feel (how the signal chain responds to your fingers), and RAT sound especially "felt" wrong, if that makes sense haha.

@henrikhansen6617

3 жыл бұрын

Ride Yer Camel Definitely a valid point. I was mostly thinking about that initial sonic experience and response when you play gear that really speaks to you. In my experience it makes me want to play more and often inspires new stuff. On the other hand I often feel stifled in my playing and ideas if the sound isn't "there". I guess that's why guitarists spend so much time searching for good tone - it's simply vital to play something meaningful.

Well, I'll take the HX. Dozens of pedals in one unit; and who's to say that even the ones that sounded better in analogue (eg Rat) couldn't be bettered with a few HX settings tweaks ?

@IMonsterCoke

3 жыл бұрын

Amen, brother.

@danielbell4007

3 жыл бұрын

The rat models are not well liked even in HX friendly circles(kind of considered the weak link in the drive section by many). But considering the rest of the effects and options the HX effects and the HX stomp are still no nonsense, no brainer quality options.

@digitalchris6681

3 жыл бұрын

Daniel Bell Interesting. Almost all of my Helix setups use just the Deez One Mod for crunch, although I must admit I enjoy messing around with the other gazillion combinations of distortion pedals and settings.

@smokingun397

3 жыл бұрын

I doubt if any listener of music anywhere in the world would be judging how close the O/D sound is to an analog pedal :-)

@digitalchris6681

3 жыл бұрын

Smokin Gun So true. It's still fun doing the comparisons though..... I get as much enjoyment messing with valves, speakers, pedals, pickups, tone controls, wiring etc etc as I do playing it.

Helix does well only the sounds I don't like very much. I don't think it's a deal. I got me a very descent pedal board for cheaper than that and I can change the stuff I don't like anytime. The only advantage is that you can store your settings. Thanks for the video.

Really appreciate this comparison - thank you!

Thanks for doing this, one of the best comparisons I’ve seen. Was interesting i much preferred the vox’s tremolo to the hx, also the phaser didn’t seem to have the definition of the pedal. But still overall can’t beat the versatility of this thing.

They all sound different from the real pedals buts thats not really the point. The whole idea of a multi FX is convenience. It allow a guitarist to have a number of patches and change FX easily during a gig. It's ideal for a cover band playing lots of different venues. It's ideal for a guitarist that wants to create their own sound and experiment with different FX. For the cost of the HX Effects or a HX Stomp you get a great value package. However for a guitarist that needs a few pedals then separate pedals maybe a much better option. Also pedals don't have to be bought at all at the same time but they can be a money pit

@djkolcun

3 жыл бұрын

For me, it about the money. Guitarists can easily spend thousands of $ on effects pedals (I was well on my way to that). Helix offers all of those effects (maybe not exact, but really, really close in almost all cases) for a fraction of the cost.

A great comparision, i think hx effect is very awsome, althought some of the pedal that emulate is abit diffrent but overall is amazing at the sound and the price

Thanks for the video! I've found most distortion effects are spot-on (minus the RAT and the Fuzz Face, which both sound pretty bad on the HX), but the differences between original and 'modeled' modulation effects are surprisingly noticeable to me: - The original Small Stone LFO wave sounds rounder and smoother. - The original CE-1 has different EQ (Line 6 possibly forgot to model the natural impedance mismatch and the preamp section). - The original Electric Mistress sounds a bit more brighter, unmuddy. - The tremolo examples are the most noticeable, both are worlds apart! PS: Being said, the HX is a pretty awesome multi-fx processor, though.

@frankfrank7921

3 жыл бұрын

I was about to post a comment but I noticed you covered the same bases I was going to. I will say that most of them are close enough that in a live situation or a studio mix with vocals and other instruments it will not be noticed even by aficionados. Be careful going solo with some though!

@danielsandaarhus

3 жыл бұрын

@Francisco Agreed!

@400_billion_suns

3 жыл бұрын

I think the main reason for the differences in this vid are that the HX Effects doesn't have the variable input impedance circuitry that the full Helix, LT, and Stomp have. The CE-1, for example, has a fairly low input impedance which darkens the tone of the guitar, and on those other 3 Helix models, it has an analog impedance circuit that does this same thing. It really matters a lot for fuzzes in particular, which have very low input impedance. I'd really like to see this test repeated with one of the other Helix units that has the variable input impedance -- results will definitely be different and likely a lot closer to the real hardware.

I went along to see a band who I believed would be using analogue old school pedals. Imagine my disgust in a loud noisy bar with sound bouncing all over the place to pick up that they were in fact using one of these modern doo-hickeys. It ruined my evening of musical philistinism. I shall never wear my leather dust coat to a gig again.

@heyyuyeung8729

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahaha

@rigormortiz9114

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine listening to vinyl and found out they are using digital multi effects. So disgusting...

@jimyoung9262

2 жыл бұрын

I bet they didn't even have a real Klon.

@nightpandas7178

Жыл бұрын

Idk bro that duster is pretty badass

@clintonrice8452

4 ай бұрын

If you’re a musical philistine, why do you care? By definition you don’t understand art.

I have the HX Effects, tbh never been a fan of stuff like it, but I got it as a gift for christmas and gave it a shot of course. Hasn’t left my board since! Very easy and convenient to use, also sounds great

Amazing comparison. I’d love to see something similar with the ME-90

not a fan of the drives but everything else, very usable. And this thing seems great as a hub kind of device for other pedals on a board.

Thanks a lot for this comparison! Considering the fact that comparing analog pedals from the same production batch isn't a 1:1 thing, given tolerances, Helix is beyond perfect. Fair and true to the analog pieces of hardware and matching ridiculously well; just Space Echo and Electric Mistress would merit getting a Helix and it'd be a bargain! That said, DS-1 was a little warmer and more fuzz sounding that the Boss pedal you compared it with. In fact I preferred the analog one.I liked much more the Helix's own Rat version and Big Muff brilliantly on point. Phaser good but not perfect. Fuzz Face kinda useable but way off to my ears (very octave prone) unlike the analog one which also sounded more musical for high pitched single notes. The fact that there are brilliantly useable classic and new effects which that you can combine and master in new ways has a lot going for digital units.

@p10rambo

Жыл бұрын

for me the helix fuzz sounded way better, more digital but cooler

I have mine running in front of a Marshal Origin 20c (dry) and a Benson modded HRD (wet) and I couldn't be happier. I'm only limited by my imagination and it's such an integral part of my rig that I think I should write the product team a letter telling them how happy I am with it.

Really great job with this video!

Simple. Sounds great.

Solid demo. Super helpful. Thank you.

Thanks for the review, I would really like a new review taking into account updates to helix effects and with many pedals!)

Excellent vid mate, exactly what I wanted to see, nice one

for me its not about tonal differences. there are some, but they are negligible. what makes me stick to analog pedals is the way the sound feels 'around' the notes that are being played... i dont know if i am being clear but its like the sound itself is similar, but i like all that comes togheter with the sound in an analog board. digital sounds good, not gonna lie, but also sounds kinda 'flat' or 'too quiet'. like too 'dry'. I know ppl will say 'just twerk the controls etc' but its not about that, it really isnt and im not fan boying and rejecting digital, i actually have a dd6... but still, after u make it 24bits, it doesnt feel bad, just feels different...

@arkman117

3 жыл бұрын

I just experienced that in this video do you know what it is? It reminds me of that pressure you feel in a room where there’s a hot mic, do you know what I’m referring to? You don’t necessarily notice it until someone turns the mic off then you go oh there’s a light pressure change, when you turn it back on you feel it, maybe sort of hear something it’s hard to describe other than it’s even and consistent and I feel like that’s in there with the hx, especially with the distortions it sort of makes them feel more even and the analogs response felt more wavy or flowing. It’s hard to describe but after I read your comment I feel like you experienced the same thing.

@andreguilhermediasarraiano9287

3 жыл бұрын

​@@arkman117 u tottaly got what ur sayin, it is indeed that feeling! yesterday i was watching a review about the green ringer octaver vs a lovepedal one, and the pedal was so random, cause u never do the exact same thing twice, so as u keep doin the same riff, the pedal keeps reacting different, take a look! kzread.info/dash/bejne/k6GHyrWiY7m0p7w.html&ab_channel=WaterBear-TheCollegeofMusic

Some of the analog effects were warmer than their digital counterparts but I'm sure that could be fixed with eq

Great demo my man !!! thanks !!!

Cost of all those analogue pedals..I reckon around 2 grand, if you can actually still get them and they sounding consistent. Plus the cost of sticking them on a pedal board and lumping that gynormous thing around. And it getting nicked twice a week. Cost of a HXFX, 340 quid. I mean it is a no brainer. So what the sound isn't perfect. Modern technology is just sublime these days.

@jdl2180

3 жыл бұрын

More like 20,000 dollars.

Od pedais soam melhor. Mas a Line 6 fez um excelente trabalho! Parabéns pelo vídeo 👏🇧🇷Brazil!

Excellent demo! Thank you!

OX is a winner! As far as the fx comparison i would say no real surprise. The individual pedals all sounded bigger and more open and more immediate and the models all sounded smaller and more compressed or closed to my ears. On other hand the Line 6 doesn't sound awful and gets you tons of fx and ability to tweak and combine them to heart's content for a reasonable price.

5:55 Bonkers mate! Which song is that?

My ears don't lie, if you are a professional, Electro-harmonix is incomparable!

Thanks for this awesome comparison!!! In my opinion all effects sound great! The rest is a matter of taste.

Really a good sound effect, nice to hear it vs the pedals, just not convinced with the rat, but it's the only one.

Nas distorções sentir uma diferença danada mas o restante é perfeito. Q pedaleira!!!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

IF you like the original tone you will tell a difference. If you don't care - then modulation is the way to go. Furthermore IF you like your set up and it give you confidence - then do that. However IMHO as much as I like the convenience of Helix, HeadRush etc. - I have ZERO patience for twiddling about to try and create sounds to replicate pedals I already know and love.

Sounded great, but some emulations are a bit off and the original pedals sound better(some are really good like the TS). It’s a great unit no doubt.

@jumpingman8160

3 жыл бұрын

The Small Stone is close but no cigar. The original tends to overtake the signal, the HX doesn't.

@MrTelecosta

3 жыл бұрын

Jumping Man the small stone emulation is quite off actually. There’s something in the mids of the original that the emulation on the line 6 doesn’t quite get. Then again these old EHX boxes are all over the place, I had two big box memory man and both sound drastically different. I’m saying this because I don’t know what pedal Line 6 based it’s emulation on ( it could be even a reissue small stone for all I know).

@jumpingman8160

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrTelecosta yes they differ quite a bit to themselves. The big box Stone I had was great to play with Synths and String Machines, the HX rendition though in the ball park of what I remember, doesn't sound like it. The Stone I had masked the og sound quite a bit, the HX version lets the dry signal on and the phasing seems to just hang over it a bit [almost as if running in paralel or something].

I have a Helix and i can tell its a very powerful multi effects. When it comes to overdrives, it seems to be missing some low end punch, specially with higher gain tones, pretty great sounding tho.

To me, I think the HX Effects does a good job of mimicking the time based effects for the most part (The tremolo was off, but they probably didn't directly model a vox tremolo). I think the biggest differences came with 2 pedals: The RAT in the HX Effects seems to have a weird honk in the mids the real RAT doesn't have, and then the Fuzz Face model in the HX Effects seems to be modelling a really high gain fuzz face to my ear, and one that's quite a bit brighter. But overall, you can work all of those things I mentioned, so it should be fine.

@frankfrank7921

3 жыл бұрын

You're right about the Rat but I did notice the real Rat's Filter was at 9 O'clock where the HX one was right at the midpoint (=12 o'clock). That could explain the diff perhaps?

@pellevastano

3 жыл бұрын

@@frankfrank7921 I think that's only part of it, because the truth is the filter knob is going to vary a little bit on every pedal because potentiometer tolerances have a lot of variation. That said, they seem to have relatively the same amount of high frequency attenuation happening, especially above 2kHz. So I might reckon that the Helix version is probably a little off in pre-distortion filtering, and has somehow emphasized 700-800Hz more than the original.

@erikhartley2494

3 жыл бұрын

The DS-1 compared to Deez Vintage was way off too.

Great video as usual. This channel deserves way more subs. Love from Spain, Guitar Bonedo!!

Some were really close! Nice video

Analog small stone is tridimensional and with more orgánic sound. The DS-1 distortion emulation is very compressed and unstable signal.

There are several Line6 FX that have a touch more high end snap at the transient then the originals have. That is a sound I'm always looking for because it cuts a bit better in a mix.

The OD, distortion and fuzz effects sounded great, but most of the modulation effects sounded comparatively weak to me. The chorus, phaser and trem FX immediately sounded a bit thin compared to the originals. But surprisingly, the Electric Mistress model sounded great.

@jr0706

2 жыл бұрын

I thought the drives sounded great till the DS-1 model.

@Prossdog

2 жыл бұрын

@@jr0706 the Rat was a good bit different too. Just seemed flat somehow. The overdrives and the Muff were almost indistinguishable.

my only worries about digital is it becomes obsolete so fast, what is the life span be for you need to repurchase the board

Perfect comparisons video and exactly what I needed to decide on the HX Stomp and retain my RJM PBC/6X with some choice fuzzes and drives in the loops, or go fully digital and get the HX Stomp XL. Definitely decided on the first option as although the Stomp does mods really well, the drives and fuzzes in it while sounding great compared to other modellers, are still one-dimensional digital and still have that digital brittleness.

@jerryhorton5708

Жыл бұрын

Might be worth another look since Line6 has just released HX version 3.5 and this video is 2 years old. For what it is worth, the reviews on 3.5 are rave. Check out Jonathan Nathan Cordy’s channel. He just did a new comparison of the HX Effects and traditional stomp boxes. Might be some more info there

@bangdude5630

10 ай бұрын

3.6 now. On the time making this video only have vermin dist for RAT

Very impressive. In my opinion the HX Stomp (not the hx effects) is best devices when it comes to price/value. Nothing better outthere.

Im ready to change flamma fx 200 with this 😂😂. Thanks for the good video.

Have you done a video like this with the Boss Katana? Would love to see it! I went back a year in your playlist, maybe I didn’t go far enough?

in the HX: The fuzzes were raspier and more broken, the Stone and Chorus/Vibrato were darker and the waves felt different, the Bias tremolo is not as pronounced (this could also be because of the vox amp). DS1 was way too compressed, the Rat was darker, SD1 was perfect, TS was more compressed, Phase 90 was bang on, the RE-20 emulation was pretty close and the Electric Mistress was perfect. That said, with the exception of the dirt all fx are great (dirt in a good mix can feel more "natural" but as stand alones and side by side they are flawed). I'd get the unit for the Modulations and time based effects alone.

This is a really great demo.

GREAT COMPARISON REVIEW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds great, awesome video. Thanks!

Amazing! Great sounds!

Multiple variables at hand. Even with KZread compression there are differences (some more than others). Honestly I think that it does both products a disservice to be compared. HX FX offers many options in a small package. The convenience factor makes it ideal for being used live. Audiences are less likely to hear the difference and the additional volume/tweaking is likely to make it enjoyable to the user. At home/in the studio/under a microscope it's apparent that there are differences, but if you are recording a song it's likely going to have many other variables like guitar, strings, cable length, cabinet/speaker choice, microphones, outboard gear/plugins, then most likely some post EQ (to make it fit in the mix) that will likely be more drastic. By then the small differences we detect know are going to be way less apparent. Especially considering how much compression is used in mastering/KZread! I think if we compressed music less that the individual differences would be more apparent, but since that's what is being done I think intended use and context win out. What will make your workflow more efficient? What results in more songs/more playing? Do we need the entire pedalboard or have we developed our playing around certain sounds? All that aside! Great playing demo!

I have the HX Stomp, and think it's awesome at what it does well. What I don't understand though, the amp models generally sound great, but the dirt pedal models are the weak link. Surely it's harder to model an amp than a pedal? Is it because the pedal models are made for the full range of Line 6 products with less capability?

I've replaced most of my effect pedals with a Helix. But I still can't get the Helix drives to push my amp the way analog drives do, so these stay. That's going into an already dirty amp (JCM800 style)

I’ll also admit that the Line6 gets close… but it’s not the same. What’s the cost difference between owning these sweet pedals vs the line6? I think it basically boils down to how much are you willing to spend. The Line6. Ay be “good enough.” I’d love a mid-engine Ferrari, but a mid-engine will have to be “good enough” type deal (honestly though, who’s holding their nose when picking the latest ‘Vette? Probably could have picked a better analogy).

Can you repeat this test with either the Stomp, LT, or Helix Floor? The reason I'm asking is because those units have an analog variable input impedance circuit on the guitar input, which switches based on the effect you've chosen. It matters a LOT for things like fuzzes, and I think you'd get much closer matches to the real pedals by using the Helix units which have this extra impedance circuit.

The SD-1 and TS808 on the Helix sounded phenomenal. Y'all are bitching about the DS-1 model being bad but the actual physical analog DS-1 sounds like garbage anyway lmao

@hadeseye2297

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with DS-1.

@sendasantiguasgiddings

3 жыл бұрын

Your not wrong

@arscek

3 жыл бұрын

DS-1 is so bad that Satriani, Vai and many others used it for years in studio and live

@sendasantiguasgiddings

3 жыл бұрын

@@arscek Yes we are sure that it's on their board right now, aren't we? the only pedal that they own.....right.

@arscek

3 жыл бұрын

@@sendasantiguasgiddings what's your point? You're talking about another subject, not about the pedal's sound

That’s a great demo my friend. The playing and the choice of sounds are on point. Line 6 should pay you if they haven’t already.

Analog pedals sound better, KZread compression makes it’s hard to tell here but into a tube amp, loud, pedals always win. But the hxfx is a nice all in one package that does sound good.

I wanted to record a video just like this one, you nailed it!

Nice riff on the Big Muff