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Yes, Lindsay is crazy, but let’s not act like Carl is this perfect man that she just fumbled. Just laying around for over 9 months without working will definitely give your partner the ick. And even at Loverboy Kyle made it pretty clear that Carl was taking advantage of the situation, even when sober. Carl just doesn’t want to work. That’s it.

@gregnewhouse6918

2 ай бұрын

Kyle probably wants to be an actor.

@westinhesse4245

2 ай бұрын

YEP!

@____thisguyhere________

2 ай бұрын

@@gregnewhouse6918 Where did you get that? Kyle has built an extremely successful business and is very much so happy with it - don’t believe he’s faking it. Unless you meant Carl, in which case, he still needs to do actual work to get there, which he also isn’t doing. You have to take action for your dreams to become a reality, you can’t rely on wishful thinking.

@allovertheshopmum

Ай бұрын

@@gregnewhouse6918 i think you mean Carl.. and i agree, if he wants to be an actor, go be one .. or realize you cant be and do something else. All this 'talk' about ideas etc.. is just avoidance and distraction.

Kyle was looking at Carl like you did this to yourself bro😂

@ndileka216

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely..

I really respect Ciara after this season. She’s so smart and respects herself.

I think what Carl is missing is the concept that there are bills and they need paid. Your partner shouldn't have to remind you of that lol

@nameless.faceless.

2 ай бұрын

And he doesn’t realize that it is alarming to your partner when you don’t have a seriousness about it because they have to wonder if they’ll be the ones carrying the financial weight most of the relationship. you have to have an urgency or show initiative for her to not be icked out

100% agree! When you are a successful, professional driven woman, having a man sit on the couch and smoke weed all day is not hot.

@Vicky-Lynn

2 ай бұрын

Can’t be an A when ur a B

@pguthrie222

2 ай бұрын

Isn't he sober and not smoking weed all day?

@ciara.-

2 ай бұрын

@@pguthrie222California sober lol

@jaymewithhawaii

2 ай бұрын

It turns into a mom child vibe, and “no one wants to F mean mommy” 😂

@soniadevlin487

2 ай бұрын

@@pguthrie222he smokes weed admittedly

This season is a roller coaster. At the beginning I was on carls side but now I am seeing the points Lindsay is trying to make this episode

@firstRiley

2 ай бұрын

Same. They’re BOTH responsible for the demise of the relationship. Glad to see all angles.

@westinhesse4245

2 ай бұрын

SAME!! Carl has been a big baby in the testimonials too. Claiming he’s scared to tell Lindsay his ideas. Because their bull shit and he’s all talk

@Sarah-sm7zc

2 ай бұрын

It definitely seems like he was planting a few seeds about how scary she is

I truly appreciate Ciara, she clearly wants to learn from the past and I really respect that, especially her pushing back against this harmful narrative that she's withholding something or that people are entitled to your body. She was completely upfront with West about her reasons for not jumping into a physical relationship and even told him during their first conversation that she is an intentional dater. If he's actively choosing to still pursue her then at this point either accept that it'll take more than 2 dates to progress or actually have a direct conversation with her instead of complaining about it to other people and in confessionals every episode. I actually find the clips of them just being cute and enjoying each other the most entertaining, and I think a slow burn is often better than something rushed.

@sdmac1339

2 ай бұрын

she isn't attracted to him.

@millsbella

2 ай бұрын

And even last year when Ciara was asked on WWHL about dating she said that she takes more time. I like how Ciara is someone who actually wants to learn and grow. You can also tell that she's attracted to West and that it goes deeper than just the physical and that's why she doesn't want to rush anything. From what's known her waiting to be comfortable was indeed the right choice for her because West and Ciara continued to date after the summer (West even mentioned that his parents love her and Ciara was very sweet praising them on WWHL last week).

Carl can’t be a provider to any women who would want a family. Crumbles under responsibility.

@JuliaB1955

2 ай бұрын

"Crumbles under responsibility." And that there sums up Carl.

@serahmurphy8240

2 ай бұрын

Tom Schwartz coded lol

@rlast4698

2 ай бұрын

​@@JuliaB1955exactly!!

Well Carl in all the months since you broke up with Lindsay what have you pursued without her holding you back? Even Kyle is giving him the side eye.

@AlohaLowah

2 ай бұрын

Spitting facts right there!

@fithrianalestari7569

2 ай бұрын

Hahahaha totally

@jennifercooljeo6552

2 ай бұрын

Maybe his ego is bruised by his ex making him feel incompetent

@BGinND

2 ай бұрын

!!!!!!

$20,000 for a career coach, especially with no progress is insane. Carl needs to be single so he can't blame anyone for his lackluster work ethic.

@Bella24Forever

2 ай бұрын

Lindsey has no job, so I am confused.

@angelinamarie8606

2 ай бұрын

How do they afford 20k a month apt, im confused

@audriacostello6648

2 ай бұрын

​@Bella24Forever she clearly does. Even Carl said she's an influencer and now she has real estate.

@prima-madalina

2 ай бұрын

@@Bella24Forever Lindsey had a PR firm and fireball was one of her clients, which is why they always drank it on the show

@EMANUGARC

2 ай бұрын

@@Bella24Foreverdon’t woman want men to take care of them? Keep the same energy

I can agree with Lindsey on this one. As a woman, seeing your man handle his business is sexy. Maybe the way Lindsey expressed herself was wrong but if she’s been dealing with this for months, I can understand her frustration. Ultimately they just aren’t a good fit.

Yah Carl sounds ridiculous. I would be mad if my man didn’t work for 9 months too….. Lindsay wasn’t even harsh about it. Carls all talk

@Alex-mx6mu

2 ай бұрын

exactly lines wasn't hard

Kyle looks like “dude, 20,000? Get it together “

@ellingtonfeint13

2 ай бұрын

Yeah the contrast between Kyle and Gabbie, while Lindsay and Carl were saying some distorted things is interesting. Gabby blindly validated everything Lindsay said. Kyle just listened.

@BerryFlair

2 ай бұрын

@@ellingtonfeint13 wow, good point. I didn’t even think to compare the two types of support.

@Tierraje

2 ай бұрын

@@ellingtonfeint13It’s crazy that in this situation, I kind of agree with Lindsey. And I never agree with her so maybe Gabby really does too. I would be so frustrated by Carl.

@westinhesse4245

2 ай бұрын

Right!!!!!! That’s the only time he didn’t talk because Carl is definitely in the wrong lol

Carl has excuse after excuse. He takes absolutely no responsibility for his actions. Everything is Lindsay’s fault.

I’m sorry but I agree with Lindsay on this one. Getting married with no job is insane. Especially as a man, and idc what anyone says…. He wants to do all these things that bring in no income. How about you get a job to fund your ideas or passions. He’s needs to be single until he can figure that out!

Sorry but carl is playing the victim and everything is lindsays fault..grow up man and get your shit together..lindsay didnt force you to quit loverboy lindsay didnt cause you to quit every job you had before... any woman in their right mind wants a man who has drive, ambition and a job.. she may have gone about it the wrong way but this falls on carl to get his shit together.. soee not amanda and kyle shld just break up..amanda obviously isnt attracted to kyle and doesnt like him and kyle is a 40 plus partier..another manchild

@msbrownsuga

2 ай бұрын

Quit or get fired. Some of his unemployment windows were not by choice.

Amanda acknowledging how she treated Kyle is Gold. Great to see!

Jesse is so entitled, I'm happy Ciara set the law.

You are NOT crushing it Carl... get a job!

For as much as Lindsey has unaddressed issues, she's not wrong about Carl needing to make moves. Why are you asking someone to marry you when you are figuring yourself out?

@OMTMedia

2 ай бұрын

Why ate you accepting the proposal when you know he doesn’t have his life figured out? Choices have consequences

@crzyshakes127

2 ай бұрын

@@OMTMedia If I'm not mistaken, he was working with a $20,000 coach so it appeared he was working towards something; it's not unrealistic to assume there will be progress. Not saying it's a bait and switch situation but there definitely was a change in motivation/action after the fact.

@Janet-Martin

2 ай бұрын

​@@crzyshakes127you do realize that Lindsay has proof that she did pay for that $20,000 for Carl to get a work coach and you don't think you would be pissed if Carl just went back to work for loverboy after she paid $20,000 for the work coach and paid for all that top-notch media equipment which Lindsay said he opened but it was still sitting in the box and that he had done nothing with it. Carl is using and was using Lindsay all along for his financial gain !!

@crzyshakes127

2 ай бұрын

​@@Janet-MartinJanet, reading is fundamental. That's all I've got for you.

@Janet-Martin

2 ай бұрын

@@crzyshakes127 You're correct, I agree with both your comments and yes the second one I admit I read to fast and misunderstood. Sorry 👍👍

Danielle needs to fire her therapist 😂

@Diamond-eq2xj

2 ай бұрын

Or she needs to listen to them better

Out of all the ways she could have approached his bum energy, this was so well done on her part. Something tells me the weight of the finances fell to her while he was finding himself and bankrolling a fake coach.

Carl, grow up already. You don’t need at $20k “business coach”, you need a damn job. What qualifies someone to be a business coach anyway? Sounds like a scam.

@Janet-Martin

2 ай бұрын

Carl didn't pay for it so he didn't care because Paige and Amanda asked Lindsay directly who is paying for all of these things that Carl was wanting to try out to make as a career and Lindsay said she had paid for all of it and have the proof

Carl was not in any place to be in a relationship.

I’m not a Lindsay stan but she’s NOT wrong saying he’s not “crushing life” lol He didn’t have a job for over a year now by his own choice. But you want her to be like Yes babe! You’re KILLING it out there…. doing nothing. Having ideas isn’t having a job, Carl. Choose one and follow through with it. Ya know?

Lindsay is 100% right here and I think she tried to help

Damn I hate to say it but Carl is weak… and he looks it 😭😭😭

@rlast4698

2 ай бұрын

Truth. He always blaming someone or something that happened to him

Irrespective of Lindsey’s faults, NO woman will be attracted to a guy who blames being traumatized from 5 years ago for not getting a job. Laying around the house with no motivation while she works. Hell no!

im glad amanda can admit she was being mean at the end of the day she wants her marriage to workout it doesnt happen in denial

He wants to produce movies, open a nonalcoholic bar, start a podcast, becoming a motivational speaker, work with Kyle again… he doesn’t even know what he wants Lindsey is just added pressure

@venecapop2548

2 ай бұрын

+ He is in the closet

@Janet-Martin

2 ай бұрын

​@@venecapop2548let's just face it Carl 1000% used Lindsay for his financial gain !! Lindsay did in fact pay the $20,000 for the work coach and Carl went running back to lover boy anyways and people wonder why she is pissed !!!

@venecapop2548

2 ай бұрын

@@Janet-Martin dusty behaviour!! He is in fact like Sandoval!

@Janet-Martin

2 ай бұрын

@@venecapop2548 Exactly !! 👍👍👍

@vasilikapoci1527

Ай бұрын

@@Janet-Martin EXACTLY. everyone doesn’t understand why Lindsay and Ariana has “female rage” like they are absolutely entitled to their emotions and ppl need to stop policing their feelings and quit villainizing them bc they aren’t pushovers.

Ciara is STANDING ON BUSINESS WITH HER BOUNDARIES YESSSS

My gawd Lindsey makes me cringe. So cringe And Danielle is pick me

Honestly, I really agree with Lindsay about the whole career coach thing. I feel like when you have a partner you should be able to be honest without it being taken the wrong way. And I feel like he cannot fault Lindsay for being honest, that’s just unfair in my book🤷🏾‍♀️

“An influencer like Paige” Lindsay is no where close to Paige’s level

@BerryFlair

2 ай бұрын

Lindsey was in PR, that’s a scale above influencer. Y’all don’t even listen to yourselves

@M2161

2 ай бұрын

@@BerryFlair Lindsay failed in PR and is jobless. Even when she was working she never went to or did events at the level Paige is

@BerryFlair

2 ай бұрын

@@carolineharding4293 And? your point is unrelated to the original comment that I referenced and thus unnecessary….One of them is obviously making an income and the other isn’t. But you pick-mes will always find a reason to hate on a fellow woman.

@kathyquinn3224

2 ай бұрын

Both are getting paid well for Sunner House!

@Janet-Martin

2 ай бұрын

​@@BerryFlairYou're correct,Lindsay makes a lot a lot of money and comparing the money she makes to Paige, Lindsay probably makes four times or more the money than Paige does because Lindsay still does also do PR work and Lindsay knows how to make good money and is associated with many of the very well-known firms !! 👍👍

Carl is “California sober” 🍃 lol! OK Carl smh. & Lindsay good on ya, you dodged a bullet! 😂🎉 you’re free & single, at your best.💗 you’re lookin great too. xx

@Janet-Martin

2 ай бұрын

That's what I said what are these people not realizing Carl is not completely sober like he swore to everybody on national TV and to his mommy and step daddy !! WTH don't people understand when Carl sat home and started smoking weed each and every day all day long 6 months after he swore to everybody that he was completely sober and not California Sober??? Maybe that's how he's coming up with his ideas of opening a non-alcoholic bar in New York City 😂😂😂😂 I really don't care who smokes weed and who doesn't but the whole entire point is is that Carl was on very very hard drugs and he is a total addict and that's what is pissing me off because Carl is a complete liar, he's at home for over a year without an income and relied on Lindsay to take care of everything, the entire time behind Lindsey's back he was doing nothing but bad talking her to his mama and saying that Lindsay was making his sobriety harder and that's what pisses me off about Carl because he used Lindsay for his financial gain !! If Carl started smoking weed 6 months into his sobriety because he said he needed to smoke weed at least to take the edge off so he's constantly smoking weed so how long do you think his real sobriety is going to last ??? NOT LONG and then who is he going to blame ??? 🤬🤬

Carl does need to get a job. Enough excuses. Also, Kyle taking Carl back as an employee again. Big mistake.

Bravo producers let this be Danielle final season, she has no storyline but getting involved in others' relationships. Ciara is right, my body, my choice, back off. Love Ciara, Paige, and Amanda.

@Tolulope.555

2 ай бұрын

She’s great on winter house 😅

Does Gabby realize how terrible she looks being blindly supportive of anything that spews from Lindsay? I have no hope that Lindsay will look introspectively and realize she is redefining toxicity, but to see Gabby just parrot anything Lindsay says is really disappointing.

@BerryFlair

2 ай бұрын

You support in public and correct in private.

@just_Chellephish

2 ай бұрын

Private retribution doesn’t work for folks like Lindsay. Gotta make her shame. Only thing she would care about (how she looks in public).

@BerryFlair

2 ай бұрын

@@just_Chellephish ok Einstein, please post a copy of your psychology or medical degree below. Or whatever it is that you think makes you qualified to make such assertions about someone that you do not know personally. No one deserves to be shamed by their friends.

@jcyensen1236

2 ай бұрын

@@just_Chellephish "Shame" are you serious. To shame anyone is abuse and to destroy their self esteem. Carl has a lot to learn also...no one got him where he is but himself so his demons are his to fix no one else's. We do what we do to ourself--no one else does so don't always go blaming someone else.

@ThomasNappo

2 ай бұрын

Gabby pants look HIDEOUS 😊

Im not saying Lindsay is invalid in her feelings but sometimes it’s how you say things. In that situation if I was Lindsay I would say “yes I think you’re crushing it in a lot of areas in your life which im so proud of you for, but this one area isn’t there yet. I believe in you & I know you’ve been trying to find the right fit for you, but I’m starting to get concerned about the amount of time that’s passing in the meantime & I know how fulfilled you’ll feel when you’re able to have a career you’re passionate about.” Something like that

@crzyshakes127

2 ай бұрын

Tact can go a long way...

@JuliaB1955

2 ай бұрын

She might've reached her tactfulness and patience limit by the time we saw what we did.

@crzyshakes127

2 ай бұрын

@@JuliaB1955 True, however it also opens the door to her delivery being used against her- the focus will shift from what she's saying to how she's saying it and that skirts the main issue.

@JuliaB1955

2 ай бұрын

@@crzyshakes127 I grant you that, indeed. Her delivery could use the patience and diplomacy of a Libra (sorry; the easiest way for me to describe it).

@Janet-Martin

2 ай бұрын

​@@crzyshakes127so you telling me that you would support a man and pay for every pipe dream he has while Carl is sitting home and bragging about having a blast not working the last year and getting high every day by smoking weed and you would be okay with that ??? Screw that Lindsay was so supportive of Carl until he proved to her that he was not even trying to get a job because he admitted to living his best life because it was on Lindsay's money !! Good luck to you if you would do that for a man because I sure the hell wouldn't !!

I can't 😩im.. I can't even WATCH AMANDA PRETEND that she's still worried about Kyle cheating. She has taken THAT TO THE BANK ENOUGH. BFD... YOU can't stand him! You should be thrilled he's out!!! Honestly?? I wish he'd just ENJOY HIS LIFE. TOTALLY IGNORE HER BECAUSE SHE'S GOING TO BE MISERABLE AS long as they are together. FOR REAL.

We watch her shoot down valid job aspirations or ideas he put out so I am not shocked she questioned everything while she does not have an actual job herself.

@conniekrebsbach2641

2 ай бұрын

Opening a sober bar when he had never been in that industry was stupid!

@mzzthang3912

2 ай бұрын

​@conniekrebsbach2641 there's a way to go about it instead of being dismissive she could've heard him out and encouraged him in a different way let's bffr nobody wants to be spoken to the way she speaks to him

@JuliaB1955

2 ай бұрын

@@conniekrebsbach2641 Very stupid. And VERY HARD WORK! And hugely expensive in New York, which is turning to shit by the minute.

@JuliaB1955

2 ай бұрын

@@mzzthang3912 She probably reached her limit by that time. We don't live with them, so we don't know precisely how many ridiculous ideas Carl has had, those spur-of-the-moment weed-driven dreams. No problem with smoking pot, but be able to sort a good idea from a smoke-induced one.

@natalysentifconson-zj2gx

2 ай бұрын

@@mzzthang3912 I agree with you. There is one secret of a strong healthy relationship between two loving people Lindsay doesn't know. Loving people should always believe in each other, help each other achieve their dreams, support each other for better or for worse. Lindsay doesn't give Carl the right to decide where he wants to work. She stops all his ideas and intentions. Carl is considering the idea of working with Kyle again, but she stops it again. She doesn't support Carl. She doesn't believe in Carl. She wants Carl earn a lot and be successful, but she stops all his ideas and don't believe in him. She wants Carl work wherever it suits her. She wants to control all his decisions. This is not love! This is the maximum degree of selfishness in the flesh! A loving person does not have the right to demand care only for himself in the future and your future children in the future, as if a man, having married, no longer has the right to think about his dreams in the future, but will only be obliged to think how to satisfy only the needs of his wife. This is not love! This is the use of a person to meet your needs. I'm very disappointed in Lindsay. and I've been watching Summer house since the first season and I'm a big fan of the show. I liked Lindsay once, but not anymore.

also not sexy: Lindsay's unaddressed trauma that leads her to treat all the men in her life like absolute shit

@JuliaB1955

2 ай бұрын

Also not sexy: Lindsay's bfs being all up in their soy feels.

@listedbyMelissa

2 ай бұрын

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

@peach1681

2 ай бұрын

I agree. I think they both have issues that they need to work on before they can each have a successful relatationship

Ok but Carl... please man up...

why dies jesse look mad that ciara said that. Dude you are gonna feel lonely for a while

I don’t love Lindsay’s drinking everything else is on Carl he is giving ick behavior

Didn’t she make him quit

@Janet-Martin

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely not and that was completely cleared up on the reunion because Lindsay had asked him not to quit lover boy before Carl had another job and also not to ruin his friendship with Kyle and Amanda over a job and leaving them high and dry but Carl did what he wanted to do and quit anyways and didn't have any income and that's why Lindsay had to take care of him financially !! Kyle and Amanda both know that that's the truth because that's exactly what Carl had told them that was Lindsay told him not to quit but he didn't listen to her any quit Loverboy anyways !! Carl is playing the blame game but he's quickly getting caught up in his lies and that's why if you watch Kyle in these videos he is giving Carl the side eye because he knows Carl is lying !!

Carl needs to figure himself out… he needs to get a job and support himself for one. I couldn’t be with anybody like that I’m sorry…

Unfortunately Daniele has a message but is just the wrong messenger lol …

lindsay is a horrible person. being in a relationship with her seems like the loneliest place to be. superficial to the core, in life and love.

@EMANUGARC

2 ай бұрын

I’m sure you have tweeted that men should take care of you, where is that energy now?

@jessicab3344

2 ай бұрын

@@EMANUGARC bro I don’t even have twitter wtf are you talking about you absolute loser

@jessicab3344

2 ай бұрын

@@EMANUGARC omg I just went through your comment history. I get it now you literally just hate women😂😂😂 incel coded weirdo

@jessicab3344

2 ай бұрын

@@EMANUGARC bro I don’t even have twitter what are you even talking about you 1ncel coded fr3ak. I looked at your comments as well…… my god go to therapy😂

@JuliaB1955

2 ай бұрын

Said the masked bandito creature with zero discernment. Booster time--run along!

"Lindsay wants something that isn't me" sums it up. Nothing else Carl said really helps his case because it just sounded like more excuses and more of Carl removing himself from the driver's seat to his own life. In the end, these two wanted such different things than what the other could/would provide. They'll be better off in the future.

Lindsay knew what she was getting with Carl. Why belittle him now? Encourage him to build his confidence not belittle him!

Part of what is so exciting to me about the Lindsay/Carl dynamic is that both have their faults and I find myself switching teams almost every episode 😂

Carl needs some serious therapy and finally come to terms with who he is. I believe that if he were to accept himself and stop living a lie, he would have a much easier time figuring the rest of it out. He also has to take some responsibility for the fact that he can’t hold a job.

20k for someone tell you what to do 😂😂😂

@Janet-Martin

2 ай бұрын

And Lindsay only admitted to paying for that when she was asked directly by Paige and Amanda who paid who paid the $20,000 and Lindsay also did pay for all of Carl's media equipment that was top-notch and she said that he barely even opened the boxes and then stuck them in the corner !! Carl is not sober and Carl said that he would never go California sober because for him even smoking weed would lead to other harder drugs and now 6 months into Carl's sobriety he's smoking weed each and every day like it's going out of style so you tell me how do you think Kyle sobriety is going to go ??? NOT VERY DAMN GOOD !!!

Also, if you don’t have a stable job you shouldn’t get married

Danielle, “you’ll know when to pump the breaks on that” When you get tired of it. When you want more.

I agree with what Lindsay is saying but you can’t kick your man while he’s down or nag. That doesn’t help.

CARLS 👏🏼 NOT 👏🏼 SOBER 👏🏼

@prima-madalina

2 ай бұрын

He looks like he’s on meth

@Cuellarose

2 ай бұрын

California sober is NOT SOBER

@Janet-Martin

2 ай бұрын

​@@CuellaroseI cannot believe that people think that Carl is sober because 6 months in to his so-called sobriety Carl couldn't handle it so he started smoking weed each and every day all day long !!! Carl had said before that he would not even smoke weed because it would only lead to something else and those are his own words so how do you think this is going to turn out for Carl ??? NOT VERY DAMN GOOD !!

Has your title wrier, so-called, ever heard of the possessive case? CARL'S. *CARL'S* CAREER STRUGGLES . . .

4:56 Kyle’s subtle smile when Carl calls Lindsay an influencer “like Paige” 😂

@Janet-Martin

2 ай бұрын

Paige only wishes she had a job like Lindsay because Lindsay has so many connections and a lot of people in high places in New York City and Believe Me Lindsey will still be living in that penthouse because she can afford it and she'll do it all by herself !! Lindsay has always made excellent money and taking care of herself and lived very luxuriously and that's exactly what she will keep doing !!!

@nameless.faceless.

2 ай бұрын

@@Janet-Martin oh I agree and I love Lindsay. You’re not saying anything I don’t agree with. I just thought Kyle’s smirk was funny. Shes way better than Carl and I kinda felt that way from the get go.

@Janet-Martin

2 ай бұрын

@@nameless.faceless. Thanks 👍👍

@Janet-Martin

2 ай бұрын

@@nameless.faceless. Well we all know Kyle, he's a little shit starter. When Carl was talking about getting a job I definitely watched Kyle's face and he was like WTH are you even talking about. 🤣 I think something is going on with Kyle and Amanda but they're trying hard to hid it, do you see that also and if so what do you think is happening with them ??? Amanda's dramatic weight lose is astounding and I am wondering why she's lost so much weight so quickly that it's concerning. 😳

@nameless.faceless.

2 ай бұрын

@@Janet-Martin honestly, I think the same and I think they love each other and don’t want to split but they’re also not really compatible. It’s sad. I definitely feel like they were happy the Lindsay and Carl thing was falling apart so that things wouldn’t be focused on their relationship. Just my thoughts 🤷🏼‍♀️ I also clocked Kyle making shady faces about Carl finding a job 😂 these after shows are adding so much to the experience lol

And this is why Lindsey will never get married.

@EMANUGARC

2 ай бұрын

I’m sure you have tweeted that men should take care of you, where is that energy now??? Yeah. No repokse

@mistyhughes898

2 ай бұрын

@@EMANUGARC ♥️ I’ve been married for 20 years and my husband and I take care of each other. So I’m good over here ♥️ and btw…I don’t tweet, I can take care of myself, and I’m not sure what repokse means but I’m sure I’m good on that too.

@Janet-Martin

2 ай бұрын

​@@EMANUGARCLindsay will be just fine and even better now that she doesn't have all Carl's financial burdens on her. Now Carl can't sit around in the penthouse getting high all day and thinking up all these wild pipe dreams and expecting Lindsay to pay for all of them !! Call needs to grow the f up and be a real man and get a job because if it wasn't for the show he would be back living with his mama that believes all his lies and his stepdad would find out real quick the Carl is the problem and is responsible for all his own problems !!!

@natalysentifconson-zj2gx

28 күн бұрын

@@mistyhughes898 I agree with you! Lindsay is such a manipulator! I hate to see how she manipulates each of her subsequent boyfriend so that he does everything the way it suits her. It gets to the point where all her boyfriends start to be afraid of her. They are afraid to say an extra word to her, so that she will not be offended. She loves to make herself look like a victim and constantly find fault with her boyfriends. Lindsay perceives and treats her boyfriends, in this case, the fiance, not as the most wonderful person in the world, whom she wants to put on a pedestal, but as a thing that she bought and this thing should work 100% for her. Lindsay squeezes all the juices out of her boyfriends until they start running away from her. This is not love. Love is when you love your fiance the way he is, and you don't constantly try to find fault with him. Apparently Lindsay won't understand this.

I could be a better career coach 😂 haven’t gone 45 days without a career since I was 11/ born

Sorry Carl, there’s nothing sexy about what you’re doing career-wise. You have a podcast in the works? Why do you think we need ANOTHER reality TV podcast? We do not.

If Ciara and west aren’t together, is love real?

Lindsey sounds annoying

She is so right here and is actually being pretty graceful about it

The second I knew Lindsay was drinking it was bound to be over she jeopardized his sobriety day in day out- could you imagine trying to not drink dealing with her??

@Janet-Martin

2 ай бұрын

Maybe Lindsay wouldn't have started drinking occasionally again if Carl didn't start smoking weed each and every day all day long 6 months into his so-called sobriety !!!

I agree with Lindsay and respect Ciara.

Carl should b a career couch 😂

Who knew Carl would look so fantastic with Silver hair ? Too bad Lindsay won't be around in real time to see it happen but likely helped it to happen by stressing him out !!

I’m so done with Carl and his bs. 8 seasons, same shit .

The guys are a lot more respectful than the girls on this show!

Team Lindsay all the way on all this mess.

I don't think Lindsey will ever be happy with anyone. She's alot to handle and that is putting it midly. She's a very unhappy person who deflects her unhappiness to others. She needs to work on herself before being in a relationship with anyone but sadly won't.

@JuliaB1955

2 ай бұрын

She's just around the wrong males, the ones in their soy-soaked feels. She needs a strong man with steadfast direction. An equal, which Carl is NOT.

@natalysentifconson-zj2gx

2 ай бұрын

Susan I agree with you. There is one secret of a strong healthy relationship between two loving people Lindsay doesn't know. Loving people should always believe in each other, help each other achieve their dreams, support each other for better or for worse. Lindsay doesn't give Carl the right to decide where he wants to work. She stops all his ideas and intentions. Carl is considering the idea of working with Kyle again, but she stops it again. She doesn't support Carl. She doesn't believe in Carl. She wants Carl earn a lot and be successful, but she stops all his ideas and don't believe in him. She wants Carl work wherever it suits her. She wants to control all his decisions. This is not love! This is the maximum degree of selfishness in the flesh! A loving person does not have the right to demand care only for himself in the future and your future children in the future, as if a man, having married, no longer has the right to think about his dreams in the future, but will only be obliged to think how to satisfy only the needs of his wife. This is not love! This is the use of a person to meet your needs. I'm very disappointed in Lindsay. and I've been watching Summer house since the first season and I'm a big fan of the show. I liked Lindsay once, but not anymore.

@corneliaengland4008

2 ай бұрын

Amen❤

Y’all are acting like Carl didn’t say he made 70k THUS FAR. Meaning during the summer he already made that much and had more months to go. He’s not hurting for money but Lindsey is trying to rush his healing process. We gotta understand how trauma works.

Another aftershow where Lindsay is delusional

@prima-madalina

2 ай бұрын

Carl is lazy

The problem with Carl is he looks like Jack of all trades, master of none. I dont necessarily think T.V is for him. He is boring without Lindsay. Non alcohol beer, ok sure. How will you sell it, he's got a personality equivalent of plank wood. He needs an office job. 🏬

@rlast4698

2 ай бұрын

Clap

@Janet-Martin

2 ай бұрын

​@@rlast4698Carl cannot get an office job because most office jobs do drug test and Carl is no longer sober and he didn't even make it 6 months without going back and backtracking and starting to smoke weed again each and every day all day long and that's the very thing Carl said is that he couldn't do was even smoke weed because he would end up exactly where he was to begin with and he already blew that 6 months into his so-called sobriety so now Carl is considered California sober !!! Carl better start taking some responsibility for himself or he's going to be living back with his mama and stepdad and they will finally get to see the real Carl that has been lying to them like a true drug addict does !!

Ciara and Paige 🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽💖

Carl was just so miserable in his life. He def needed therapy not a business coach. I just think he didn’t know which way to move and rather than man up and dump her he just stayed still and got veneers.

@linds_1285

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@prima-madalina

2 ай бұрын

Right! How much did those teeth cost!! Lindsey she be embarrassed that she didn’t dump his first 😂

Lindsay, I want to tell you one secret of a strong healthy relationship between two loving people. Loving people should always believe in each other, help each other achieve their dreams, support each other for better or for worse. You don't give Carl the right to decide where he wants to work. You stop all his ideas and intentions. Carl is considering the idea of working with Kyle again, but you stop it again. You don't support Carl. You don't believe in Carl. You want Carl to earn a lot and be successful, but you stop all his ideas and don't believe in him. You want Carl to work wherever it suits you. You want to control all his decisions. This is not love! This is the maximum degree of selfishness in the flesh! A loving person does not have the right to demand care only for himself in the future and your future children in the future, as if a man, having married, no longer has the right to think about his dreams in the future, but will only be obliged to think how to satisfy only the needs of his wife. This is not love! This is the use of a person to meet your needs. I'm very disappointed in you Lindsay. and I've been watching Summer house since the first season and I'm a big fan of the show. I liked you once Lindsay, but not anymore.

Danielle talking about preferring to just hook up after trying to bully Alex in to a relationship....committment is not your issue girl

Lindsay looks amazing here ❤

Carl is too soft and sesitive and doenst look well

All of these single women will never get married!!! Ever they have a misunderstanding of what a relationship is and marriage!!

I think at the end of the day they just don’t fit together, nothing wrong with either of their actions or feelings towards each other. They really just don’t work well together and also possibly pushed the relationship to quickly to living together and getting engaged.

$20,000 for a career coach? I thought alcoholics anonymous was free. I suppose those are two different things. Being as driven as Lindsay I'm surprised that she's not more strategic on what kind of husband she wants. If a man's position is so important then go out there and get a man of means maybe a fancy last name. Your in NYC, aren't they all over the place? Carl is carl and I just don't think he's husband material and won't be for anyone.

The Carl work storyline is the same one they gave Craig at one point on Southern Charm, their job is the show. Honestly would rather see passion anywhere else but career, I'm over the American obsession with it, you earn money to create a good life outside your job, doesn't need to be anything more.

20,000 are you Serious with me??? just so they can advise you what you want to be when you grow up??? nooooo....Carl is immature what a waste

It doesn’t sound like either of them are bad guys or bad people. They are just different ❤

Carl is 100% crushing life..overcoming addiction and death of his brother while being in the spotlight is incredible!! Life is not only about your career.

@rlast4698

2 ай бұрын

Is he though?

@natalysentifconson-zj2gx

2 ай бұрын

Trust the Effing Process I agree with you. There is one secret of a strong healthy relationship between two loving people Lindsay doesn't know. Loving people should always believe in each other, help each other achieve their dreams, support each other for better or for worse. Lindsay doesn't give Carl the right to decide where he wants to work. She stops all his ideas and intentions. Carl is considering the idea of working with Kyle again, but she stops it again. She doesn't support Carl. She doesn't believe in Carl. She wants Carl earn a lot and be successful, but she stops all his ideas and don't believe in him. She wants Carl work wherever it suits her. She wants to control all his decisions. This is not love! This is the maximum degree of selfishness in the flesh! A loving person does not have the right to demand care only for himself in the future and your future children in the future, as if a man, having married, no longer has the right to think about his dreams in the future, but will only be obliged to think how to satisfy only the needs of his wife. This is not love! This is the use of a person to meet your needs. I'm very disappointed in Lindsay. and I've been watching Summer house since the first season and I'm a big fan of the show. I liked Lindsay once, but not anymore.

@trusttheeffingprocess

2 ай бұрын

@@rlast4698 Instagram shows him to be in Portugal with friends celebrating a wedding right now so seems to be doing pretty damn good

@corneliaengland4008

2 ай бұрын

Sobriety is a journey and not a destination after 38.5 years I totally believe that❤

@catherinecalvert7742

2 ай бұрын

They also recommend in recovery or sobriety to not get into a relationship for at least a year Lindsay has always had a list with a timeline date get engaged get married get pregnant All she's done is change the guys name on the list Also she's not an influencer like Paige And last reunion both Lindsay and Carl were unemployed and we all knew she didn't want him working with Loverboy and said Kyle overworked him and didn't appreciate him

Remind me how was she blindsided? lol She PR this blind sided narrative to the core, press tour herself before everyone saw the season to victimize herself. All it was is two people who should’ve never get married had issues and Carl called it off which was the right the thing to do. He saved them both and she must know it wasn’t good for them to get married either. She definitely wanted to ride the narrative as being the victim and not taking any responsibility. They both played a part not just one. And that’s why Lindsey is coming across delusional or as master manipulator to play this victim act.

@natalysentifconson-zj2gx

2 ай бұрын

I agree with you. There is one secret of a strong healthy relationship between two loving people Lindsay doesn't know. Loving people should always believe in each other, help each other achieve their dreams, support each other for better or for worse. Lindsay doesn't give Carl the right to decide where he wants to work. She stops all his ideas and intentions. Carl is considering the idea of working with Kyle again, but she stops it again. She doesn't support Carl. She doesn't believe in Carl. She wants Carl earn a lot and be successful, but she stops all his ideas and don't believe in him. She wants Carl work wherever it suits her. She wants to control all his decisions. This is not love! This is the maximum degree of selfishness in the flesh! A loving person does not have the right to demand care only for himself in the future and your future children in the future, as if a man, having married, no longer has the right to think about his dreams in the future, but will only be obliged to think how to satisfy only the needs of his wife. This is not love! This is the use of a person to meet your needs. I'm very disappointed in Lindsay. and I've been watching Summer house since the first season and I'm a big fan of the show. I liked Lindsay once, but not anymore.

Carl sounds like the most unmotivated couch potato .... he likes to blame Lindsey, but shes just pointing out the obvious he cant take any criticism. And always using sobriety as excuses ,, its like ok we get it. now what else can u offer? Because Im not seeing anything he can offer, other than a wet mop personality, woe is me, Im gonna run when we fight and go back to my mommy... my god what a turn off LOL !!!

@Janet-Martin

2 ай бұрын

Very well said !!! Not only that I don't know if you know that Carl is no longer sober because he was only 6 months into his sobriety and he told us all on national TV he would never go California sober because if he did he would start the same exact thing he was doing before and that's exactly where Carl has started because he smokes weed each and every day all day long !!! For a regular person to smoke weed is not such a big deal but Carl told us himself but if he even smoked weed that he would end up exactly where he was when he was at rock bottom and that's why I don't understand why people are getting on to Lindsay and blaming her for stuff when Carl made that decision and then started coming up with all of these wild pipe dreams that absolutely made no sense unexpected Lindsay to financially help him which she had already done for an entire year !!! Carl needs to be sent back to his mommy and step dad's house so they can see the real Carl and let them support him !! Lindsay realizes now she definitely dodged a bullet.

Lindsay Hubbard is a bad person

So, now she agreed that Carl should quit? 😂 She orchestrated it

All of a sudden all these girl don’t want the man to take care of them when it comes to Lindsay. Everyone is just haters. TEAM LINDSAY

Who's Lindsey's therapist? Because dude she needs a new one based on her delusions! Omg! Seriously she needs a lot more help! Not saying that Carl is perfect but he has shown us a lot of growth since season 1 and Lindsey hasn't changed much at all!

Say what you want about Lindsay but she has a valid point. Carl needs time to himself to figure out his career. Plus she needs a man that is as ambitious as she is. Amanda that jacket is a 👎 fail. Danielle… good job. Self reflection and learning from experience is a sign of obtaining maturity. And lastly Ciara is right… she doesn’t need to rush in with any man. Good for her.

In this current society, instant gratitude has become so normal that NO ONE wants to put in the effort towards ANYTHING anymore. I SUPPORT CIARA. ITS HER BODY Wtf AND SHE TOLD THE GUY UPFRONT. DUDE DOESN'T LIKE THE WAY SHE MOVES, GO KICKS ROCKS. Move the F* on. Someone else will come arround and appreciate her and work hard for her if West doesn't.

But she’s right…he’s not an actor… he’s 30 something? If my 30 year old boyfriend tried to tell me he wants to be an actor I’d be done

@Janet-Martin

2 ай бұрын

Carl is 40 years old and not only is Carl an addict 6 months into his sobriety he became California sober which means he does nothing but smoke weed all day everyday and people wonder why Lindsay sweet dreams he was coming up with we're never going to work. I believe the best thing for Carl to do would be to go live with his mama and stepdad and let them see the real Carl and then just maybe they would see what Lindsay went through taking care of him financially for over a year, I'm sure he will be hiding in their bushes at their house the smoke is weed, and they will finally realize why Carl cannot get a real job or even keep a job. !!!