Do you agree that this is the greatest badminton match ever?

@aniketverma5191

10 ай бұрын

I think 2009 world championship mens double final is on the same level

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

@@aniketverma5191 that is an epic match!!

@alexanderzhang1513

10 ай бұрын

definetly, though i belive olympics 2008 md finals is a contender

@wifistudy1570

10 ай бұрын

But for me it was P VSindhu vs Nozomi Okuhara in 2017 world championship

@badmintonrx7632

10 ай бұрын

I agree, the game on-court in the 2017 final is hard to beat. Okuhara and Sindu were top players at the time but not at the same level as the LCW v. LD rivalry. @@wifistudy1570

Tv coverage goood Commentators gooood Lin dan goood Lcw goood What’s there to not like about this match? LCW was in the best form of his career. But LD yet again showing why is he the goat. Such a clutch player. “Nerves of steel”, “didn’t flinch”, “how do you hit such a shot on match point”

@BenBeckmanBadminton

9 ай бұрын

😊🙌🏻 100% agree

@aslamrw8265

9 ай бұрын

Nerves of steel 😅 💯agree

I'm very sad that lcw didn't win the world championship before he retired

One notable distinction between Lin and Lee that must be emphasized is the countries they represent. I'm not attempting to compare the superiority of one nation over the other. Instead, I'd like to point out the vast differences in badminton culture between their respective countries. As a result, the responsibilities and expectations placed upon these athletes vary significantly. In Malaysia, badminton is regarded as the national sport, which speaks volumes about the country's passion and emphasis on the game. When a legendary badminton figure like Lee emerges from Malaysia, one can only imagine the immense expectations the Malaysian public places on him. This is a tremendous pressure for any athlete, especially in the finals or during critical points in a match. Even a fleeting moment of acknowledging this pressure can impact their performance, leading to hesitations or misjudgments that wouldn't normally occur. In contrast, Lin didn't face the same level of pressure. The Chinese badminton team at the time had several outstanding male singles players, like Chen Long, Chen Jin, and later, Tian Houwei. When Lin felt he wasn't at his best or wanted more time to prepare for other significant matches, he could afford to lose some less critical games without facing intense media scrutiny. For athletes at their level, monetary rewards are often a secondary concern. In essence, Lin had more leeway and time to adjust his form, allowing him to be better prepared for major competitions.

@JenYangLim

9 ай бұрын

Also the facility and training given were different. Ultimately, both players are really close in their level of skills. LCW unfortunately had much higher pressure and seem unable to beat LD in big games. He had nearly beaten him a few times in WC and Olympics, but just couldn't finish off the match points on a few occasions. Real heartbreak for one of the best badminton player of all time.

@wadezhang7106

6 ай бұрын

As a Chinese myself, I’d say the pressure from the expectation of 1.4bn people on the back of LD is much bigger than the pressure on LCW. If LD didn’t win the 2008 Olympic, he would end up being the nation’s enemy the same way Liu Xiang did in the 110m men’s hurdles. However, he pulled it off, with that tremendous amount of pressure, that victory eventually forged LD’s mentality and built him the nerve of steel which gives him the advantage facing LCW during the following years.

@kunn5182

6 ай бұрын

Also a china national here, I would agree that Lcw might be under more pressure, but I think the training plays a bigger part here, both mentally and physically. In China we have numerous badminton world champions from every generation, the team knows how to prep LD for the pressure, also provide him opportunities to face other superior ms player in daily training. On the other hand, Lcw is always trying to win the first title for his country, and forced to play more international matches as training since there is no other Malaysia ms player on his level. IF Lcw is in China, I wouldn't doubt he can become world champion

@JenYangLim

6 ай бұрын

@@wadezhang7106 yeah China does have that toxic mentality dont they?

Oh man your commentary😍 18:31 Lin Dan showed to everyone why he is regarded as the Greatest Badminton Player of All Time 💥

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

🙌🏻

I for sure do and I was there🙏 and felt just the way you describe. The atmosphere, the tension, the joy for LD and sorrow for LCW. Unforgettable!

Lin dan.... Goat......❤🔥

14:20 I don't even know how many times I've watched this epoc intro of this final in the past. The bestest intro ever!!!! 😍😍

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

It is rather epic. They went all out on it

@aslamrw8265

10 ай бұрын

@@BenBeckmanBadminton exactly gave us goosebumps

@gizmokaiba

10 ай бұрын

I was there🙏Remeber having goose bumps all over during the intro. It was the perfect bild up, the whole stadium just waiting for this game.

Just wanted to say, been a fan of yours for a long time. It's really refreshing to see long form badders content that covers the pro scene like this. Genuinely filling a gap!

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

Thank you mate, really appreciate it. I also saw the gap and thought I'd apply what I've done for BWF to longer form. Will be doing my best to bring many more amazing stories to life

@edthorn6891

10 ай бұрын

So great to hear, thanks for all the vids and can't wait to see more@@BenBeckmanBadminton

@badmintonrx7632

10 ай бұрын

Truly original and much-needed badminton content!

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

thank you ☺@@badmintonrx7632

Without Lin Dan, LCW would have won All Grandslam titles. But, that wouldn't be significant. Badminton would be dull. Their rivalry is peak badminton in the entirety of badm history.

very good video. I personally think the 2012 Olympic final is higher quality but both are incredible matches. The biggest shame is that LCW didn't win the 2016 Olympics. He would have needed the one rest day before the final, that would have been enough.

@traytyler9951

10 ай бұрын

Nah he would have lost either way, Chen long at that point in his career was outright better than lee, he beat him in 2014-2015 world championships as well. Lee couldn’t compete with prime Chen long anymore

@peterhammer6915

10 ай бұрын

@@traytyler9951 The difference in the final was very small. In London there was a rest day. With the rest LCW would have won imho. LCW was still very very good, in 2018 he was close to his absolute peak.

@ARUNKUMAR-gq2yn

10 ай бұрын

​@@traytyler9951no just before 2016 Olympics Lee have beaten in Chen in Asian Championship

@traytyler9951

10 ай бұрын

@@peterhammer6915 that doesn’t make sense, Chen long played victor who went on to beat Lin Dan in bronze, if there was rest Chen long would also rest and still beat lee, especially because victor was probably the harder opponent in those semifinals cause he beat lin

@peterhammer6915

10 ай бұрын

@@traytyler9951 it makes a lot on sense. Their age difference is almost 10 years. Bronze match evaluation is of no value.

This is amazing content probably the best badminton content ive seen in a while. Good luck

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

Thank you so much. Appreciate it

Ben Beckman please do more of these videos. The world will know the beauty of badminton. Loved both videos, keep going. All the best!!

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

I intend to do many more of these kinds of videos. Spreading the brilliance of badminton is the goal

@aashrithsharan1

10 ай бұрын

@@BenBeckmanBadminton Will keep giving our support. Yes, I agree this is the greatest match in History, built up to match, level of play, fitness, on every level, and the future that awaits post the match, level it brought to the game, all aspects essentially mark this match the greatest ever

Thanks for the amazing video, good job 👍

This was the first badminton match i ever watched and the video that actually started my love for this beautiful game. Downloaded it on a whim, watched it so many times and has since watched so many other matches. Thank you for breaking it down and providing the rich history of one of the greatest sporting rivalries. Also your quality of videos has improved so much in such a short time and im loving the new, longer length videos. Well done sir. Could you also do a similar video on the rivalry between cai yun/fu haifeng and lee yong dae/jung jae sung.

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

What a way to introduce yourself to badminton. The match must've set a high standard! And thank you, always trying to improve my story telling and editing. Yes I think a story on that rivalry would be needed. Will have to do a lot of research for it but it'll be worth it

Great video! Very entertaining to watch! Hey maybe you can also do one on Chen Long vs Kevin Cordon. That was one of the greatest upsets. Maybe also how he managed to win a bronze medal! I really like your videos :)

Again, a very good video. Paying tribute to the 2 greatest badminton player of all time

Great work! I can see so much effort you've put into making this video. I've watched this match several times but I didn't know the story behind it. Thanks for showing that to new badminton players.

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it 😊

This was very well made and I appreciate the professional video 😊

This Is One Of The Best Documentary On Badminton. Well Done Brother... ♥️♥️♥️

Please keep on making these amazing videos . If possible in the future could you describe the difference between the superseries and the current world tour as a lot of fans are confused on it and also would like to see how lcw dominated the superseries whereas different players today are fighting for world tour titles.

Beautiful video. So much analysis and information about LEE-LIN rivalry

Lin Dan ❤‍🩹❤‍🩹❤‍🩹❤‍🩹 evergreen badminton player

Lin Dan is able to play at a strong pace over 3 games and still strong enough to close up the final points.His defence like LCW's is impecable and his arm strength throughout the match is incredible.He has the skill,fitness mental and arm strength that makes him a notch above all other players.However he was a spent force after 2012.

@Keepcalm-lovesports

10 ай бұрын

Lin Dan was World Champion in 2013 after a long break and was arguably still the best player in 2014 but didn't play the world championships. Let's ignore that he got to the WC Final in 2017 and some other titles and finals he made way past 2012.

@ale03000

10 ай бұрын

He is GOAT no one can break his records any time soon

@traytyler9951

10 ай бұрын

Spent force who won the world championship again in 2013

@AgentJ2007

10 ай бұрын

“Spent force” ?!!! After winning 2012 Olympic final. He played only 1 match on April 2013 and still went on to become 2013 WC. 10 months of inactivity and still the best player in the game.

Great content!

Great Video man, hats off

Such a good video keep doing what you do please we need more badminton content to make our sport more relevant

Great observation. Only a true badminton fan can recollect all those details even after so many years. Congrats and thankyou 🙏❤️

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

This match will forever be imprinted on my mind

Amazing video, it definitely helps cement this legendary match into badminton history. This kind of content is what we're missing on KZread, in depth reviews of these historic matches paired with all the emotions and excitement of fans and pros alike!

@BenBeckmanBadminton

8 ай бұрын

Plenty more to come. Working on a big video now then I'll be back to my usual upload schedule

Your story telling is amazing!👍

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

Thank you

This is such a beautifully crafted video brother. So much observation for a very long period culminated into the making of this video. Happy to watch it very early and excited to see the views going high. Also kudos to the Chen long video also. 😍

@BenBeckmanBadminton

9 ай бұрын

Thank you so much. Appreciate the kind words

At first I thought you had 869k subs later on I realized it 869 !!dude you made incredible video, you really deserve a million and I am saying is first time to anyone . Good luck for your future .🙌🙌

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

I wish I had that many subs haha. Maybe one day. Cheers mate, appreciate the kind words

thanks for the video, I was among the linesman and till date this one and the all england final are the best games I have physcially witnessed by God's grace

Loved the video great analysis How about next video on fu haifeng and cai yun

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

That's in the pipeline. Have a great story on those 2

Really good vid mate

@BenBeckmanBadminton

21 күн бұрын

Thanks mate

Hi Ben, You promised another video about the LD and LCW rivalry. Looking forward to it 👍

@BenBeckmanBadminton

8 ай бұрын

That's further down the line as that is gonna take some serious time 👌🏻😊

This is absolutely THE ONE match that is most memorable to me. More so than the Olymplic. No doubt the greatest ever.

Best badminton match ever+British narrative=great video! In the decisive moments, LD attacked the deep forehand corner which was a relative weakness for LCW. One technical difference between the two was that LCW took quite late shots using a more aggressive sideways stance whereas LD always commited to late technique and pointed his racket leg toes to the back corner. LD actually commited to late technique on his forehand even if he arguably could have been more proactive but his shot quality was pristine.

@james-bx4wr

10 ай бұрын

Yup. Conservative vs explosive footwork

Great storytelling!

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

Thanks so much!

my badminton life started from these two men... They are the best ever!!

I wish they both never aged

your video makes my eyes into tears

Great vid. Just curious why did u pick this match and not the 2012 Olympic final?

new subscriber here

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for subbing dude

Thats amazing

For me, the 2012 Olympic final is the most epic. LD truly extinguished every effort of LCW to achieve even a big title in his career although they met several times later but 2012 is the biggest chance for LCW due to his peak of form also confidence

@ale03000

10 ай бұрын

Just LCW didn't fully recover from an ankle injury for the 2012 Olympics, unlucky but still went to the final

@Jvksiew

10 ай бұрын

I agree. LD changed his play style too. Ease on the offence and being more well rounded too. One step closer to the modern men’s single play style : tai-chi Dan

A amazing game!

I remember watching it live too at our local mamak store. When it was 21 all, all I can do is close my close and hope that lcw could win. However LD proved that he is the Goat.

have you considered investing in a really good condenser microphone? I think it will make your videos more engaging! I don't want to sound like a perfectionist but I studied videography in college and we found that audio plays a significant role in films and increases the overall quality of any film or video when given attention.

@BenBeckmanBadminton

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback and suggestion. You are right, I am looking into ways of increasing the quality of my videos

Lindan is The Greatest Period Clutch and Superb. Axelsen Had no competition

@dianliu2109

10 ай бұрын

Axelsen centainly has his chance, but I also doubt if he can ever do it. He is very hard working and determined as well, hope he can be satisfied the time he retire.

12 years, merciless time

Both push each other if Lin Dan better that make Lee Chong Wei work for be the better

@dianliu2109

10 ай бұрын

Very true

I agree. But I think just as impressive were the 2012 London Olympics men's singles final and the 2015 China Open men's singles semi-final

This is why they are the top 2 players at that time.

I hope you get success just like Adam Bobrow, he was profesional table tennis player(not too successfull) and now he is making youtube content as he travels the world while doing his job as commentator(like Gill clarke but for pingpong). I now you has the ability aswell, and Gill won't getting younger. Salam sukses!

Please try to make a video on 2012 men's singles final and 2016 men's semifinal b/w lin dan and chong wei

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

I'll try, full videos on only Olympics is hard due to copyright issues

@ramprasadganta436

10 ай бұрын

@@BenBeckmanBadminton 😢

LD the GOAT

Being LCW is very hard.. He is the most unlucky player in badminton.. Been in the Olympics final for three times, World championships for four times but ended with silver.. He deserves more than LD and CL. If he was born in China, the entire story will be different

@HimanshuKumar-lh5kf

10 ай бұрын

Facts, he was just unlucky yet the most iconic 💯

@justisebruno

10 ай бұрын

Still will be outclassed by a Lin Dan, young Lin Dan was a beast, LCW's prime is from 2011 to 2015 when he lost to either Lin Dan or Chen Long in all these finals, tell me how u find he's better than these two? Chinese need players who can win titles for them, however LCW can't. Moral of story, LCW is not the best player in his era, also Chen Long's win-loss H2H against LCW almost same, most importantly, out of their 9 finals they met, Chen Long won 6

@HimanshuKumar-lh5kf

10 ай бұрын

@@justisebruno being the no 1 player in the world for longest time is lcw continuous He's just unlucky he lost finals almost everytime. Its called choking. U can be the nest player in the world but u don't perform ur best in main important match, that's choking. Its doesn't mean lin dan was better, he was just lucky The matter of fact is, he lost 5 main finals still as popular as lin dan, tell the volumes of his greatness. Definitely he lost titles, he still is better player to many people than lin dan.

@ARUNKUMAR-gq2yn

10 ай бұрын

@@justisebruno I'm not meaning LCW is best among those three.. definitely he deserves elite titles like Lin and Chen

Dear Ben, can I ask a question? What's your daily job? Why do you make such great badminton videos.

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

I coach badminton and make shorter videos for the BWF. I do this when I have time. Recently I've had even more time which is what gave me the inspiration to start this.

@dianliu2109

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the explaination, no wonder why nobody else can make videos as good as yours. For badminton fans like me every video is like a holiday .@@BenBeckmanBadminton

I think 2012 olympics was probably just as great tbh. When you can see how much they want it in their face, then you know you’re in for a great final.

bro where did you find the badminton videos with this high quality

@BenBeckmanBadminton

9 ай бұрын

I have my sources...

as a badminton player myself, luck plays a major part especially you need it big time in big matches. i believe its not with LCW while paying against LD.

One of the closest matches between the two and the moment LCW came closest to becoming a world champion...sigh

For me 2011 is indeed the best, i mean, at least of all i ve seen 😅. But i'm quite certain that the 3 final in a row, 2011 BWF, 2012 olympics and 2013 BWF, are the most impressive duel between 2 badminton players. Such a pity than LCW couldn't take at least one 😑

Ben Beckman official channel let's go!!!

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

😊🙌🏻

someone turn this into a sports anime already

One thing about any world championship / Olympic final between these two legends is, you would already know the result without watching the video. Sorry but that’s how one-sided it had been.

@BenBeckmanBadminton

Ай бұрын

Still doesn't take away from the fantastic matches they produced and the emotions they can still invoke

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A week ago you posted this video saying that you think this is the best badminton match ever... Today BWF TV themselves posted 10 best moments in world championship and there comes first this epic match... Go watch it buddy I hope it'll make your day 😍❤️

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

I saw that 😏🤣

@aslamrw8265

10 ай бұрын

@@BenBeckmanBadmintonoh 😔😅

Ben, please do a piece on Lin Dan vs Axelsen, GOAT debate!

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

I might have to save that for when Viktor has retired and we can see his career as a whole

@aniketverma2775

10 ай бұрын

No one is close to Lin Dan as of now

@dianliu2109

10 ай бұрын

Axelsen still has his chance, just wait and see. But the chance is rare though. For now I think Axelsen just has a winning streak better than Lin Dan, and that really means little. Let along today he has less competitive rivalries like LCW, Momota also had his chance being LD or LCW, but he is unfortunate.

@tiendong452

9 ай бұрын

Players nowadays have such inconsistent performance. They rise in one tour then disappear. The way Viktor win the championships is not really satisfactory for badminton fans as no one can really challenge him.

Between 2006 and 2013 there were 6 world championships, 2 Olympics and 8 all England's Here's the list of winners not Lin Dan, for 8 years: Chen Jing Chen Long Lee Chong Wei End of list Lin Dan won 12 of the possible 16 biggest titles over an 8 year peak.

Lee Chongwei could have been the GOAT, unfortunately, he was in the same periode of the REAL GOAT : LIN DAN. He retired in 2020 and with all his achievements I believe we will have to wait until 2120 before a player could match his 'inhumanly' achievements

during lindan and lee chong wei..i feel pity for other badminton player because,.other player cant challenge both of them.😅

It's hard to believe LCW didn't win a single world champion title in his career. Seems impossible. No Asian championship, no Thomas cup, no world championship, no Olympic. it is insane.

@Izsar1902

10 ай бұрын

2 times asian champ but no asian games title

9:30 lol did anyone notice the umpire added the point to lindan even tho lcw won the game

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

even Gill Clark called the final score as 21-17 21-18 until the scoreline was put on the big screen haha

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lin dan is a stronger player then lcw mentally if its a 20-20 scroe and you give match point to lin dan he will convert it on the first try while lcw fails, mental battle is harder then the game itself

factos

I personally rate 2014 World Championship final (MD) and 2009 WC (MD) finals best for doubles. And this was the best MS final in terms of things which were at stake. For me my favourite LCW moment was Semi Finals of Rio Olympics. The final laugh in last showdown! Lin Dan is the G.O.A.T overall no doubt. But LCW is the king of Superseries & most dominant World No.1 ever!

@FACTSONLY186

10 ай бұрын

How can you call it the last showdown lmao

@justisebruno

10 ай бұрын

I thought Lin Dan still got the last laugh? I remember Lin Dan defeated LCW again the last time they met

@md.mushfiqurrahmanchowdhur1437

10 ай бұрын

@@justisebruno : I meant the last 'big showdown'.. It was definitely Rio Semi Finals

lin knows to put lcw in his place

still breaks my heart

Remember there was a video where you said All england 2006 MSSF between LD and LCW was the best ever. So you’ve changed your mind?

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

Oh man, that AE SF is amazing too. I did say that a few years ago. But opinions on things can change and after digging into the story and everything it gave me a higher appreciation for this match. But dude...that is a good spot...

@TekkaiJon

10 ай бұрын

@@BenBeckmanBadminton great that you’ve changed your mind because I think the WC11 is the best MS match ever too😄.

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

@@TekkaiJon 🤣

@pk1342

10 ай бұрын

I think that what makes the 2006 all England match is special because they were both young and at their physical peaks. Less on the line but imo if you want to watch peak MS badminton standard it is that match. Watching any of today's MS players in comparison to that is like watching badminton devolve in real time.

LCW was loosing before this final and still lost this final. How was that interesting? Surely that match was interesting. You know what I mean.

Lin Dan and Lee Chong Wei were both legends of badminton. The way you described their story was spot on. Their rivalry will stand the test of time. If you look at the statistics, out of their 40 matches, Lin won 28 to LCW's 12. But that doesn't tell the full story. On paper they were evenly matched but Lin always seemed to have the upper hand by winning the crucial points. LCW dominated the scene and won almost everything. But for some reason he couldn't beat his nemesis. Looking back now, it truly is heartbreaking for someone of LCW's quality to never win the Olympic Gold. To make it to 3 consecutive Olympic finals only to finish second every time. It's hard to put into words how these two made me feel. They were both unbelievable players, the speed, quality, recovery, attacks, defence, deception, diving saves they had it all. They kept pushing each other to bigger and greater heights. I had the privilege to watch them first hand in their element. I was in awe of them both. No one played the sport like they did. They were incredible on the court. Off the court, I even managed to meet LCW in person. He's such a humble and respectful guy. As a kid I was team Lin Dan but as I grew older I admired LCW. The way he kept giving everything even with all the setbacks to never give up and strive to be the best he could possibly be. They inspired so many players to pick up a racket and play badminton. I for one certainly did. Watching them as a kid to now being an adult, it made me fall for the beautiful game of badminton. Thank you Lin Dan and Lee Chong Wei. 🇨🇳🇲🇾🏸

2 legend forever

What about taufik hidayat?

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

What about that legend?

@AgentJ2007

10 ай бұрын

What’s the relevance ?

@sonofyoutube6248

9 ай бұрын

taufik hidayat? overated player..

agreed

this is GREATEST match because LD was nervous if LD lost , he would be the same as Taufik right now LCW fans would say their Olympic and world champ gold medal weren't important

@dianliu2109

10 ай бұрын

😅What you said is uncomfortable but not wrong though. I would like to see LCW has a gold for world champion, but that would make the story less interesting for sure. As for today, I could say their story is better than most hollywood script.

@justisebruno

10 ай бұрын

Bro, 1 of 5 world champions only, Lin Dan managed to get another in 2013, do u even watch badminton?

All respects to this 2 legends but i disagree. Fu haifeng-cai yun vs jung jae sung-lee yong dae world championship 2009is the greatest match ever. In this match, lcw simply choke, like always

@BenBeckmanBadminton

10 ай бұрын

A great match that 2009 MD final. Did u check out my video on it?

@silver_c1oud

3 ай бұрын

disagree Doubles are boring