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Me too friend! The other phone looks too big and iPhoney. I like the strange almost square size.

@AndrewFolts

6 күн бұрын

Yea, it was a great call by Light Phone. Feels like the perfect balance of uniqueness vs usability.

Love the videos! The concepts and way of life you live is inspiring!

@AndrewFolts

6 күн бұрын

Thanks, yo! Fun products beget fun video projects. (:

Love the vid as always. I have to say I felt a similar way when I was exploring the Wise Phone. I'm keeping an eye on the LP3 as I'm still trying to find a sensible way to implement the LP2 into my daily life (conflicts arising from parenting demands and necessary work apps). Keep up the great work, can't wait to see your thoughts once the LP3 arrives.

@AndrewFolts

6 күн бұрын

Yea, I'm still very fond of my LP2 and with the SIM slot, I might just switch back and forth. Super excited for the LP3 too!

My man! Love this!!!

@AndrewFolts

5 күн бұрын

Thanks, Tim! It's easy to have fun making videos about LP, they're such a rad company.

Nice job Andrew! Was looking for comparison between two! Your videos and style are interesting and thoughtful.

@AndrewFolts

5 күн бұрын

Thanks, Lawrence! I always have a blast making LP videos, so I'm glad it was useful. Cheers, yo!

@1truthseeking8

3 күн бұрын

​@@AndrewFolts I AM VERY interested in: Avoiding EMF ...and avoiding blue light...

@1truthseeking8

3 күн бұрын

​@@AndrewFoltsp.s. BLACKBERRY Curve 8330 was THE BEST phone ever....

@AndrewFolts

3 күн бұрын

@@1truthseeking8 Probably the LP2 would the the way to go, then. kzread.info/dash/bejne/pKOAl6qzfre5n8Y.html

Thank you so much for this video! I think lightphone II is still for me.

@AndrewFolts

6 күн бұрын

Yea, I love that the LP3 feels like an alternative, not a replacement. I'm still going to switch back and forth, I suspect. (:

As a current iPhone user (1 personal and 1 for work), I've been looking at the light phone 2 for a while to replace my personal device... and then i found the Wisephone, and thought, I'll give that a shot. I like the "idea" behind it, but since the release of the light phone 3, AND your video, I've been awakened to why I've been wanting a "lighter" phone in the first place! I immediately cancelled my Wisephone 2 preorder, and ordered the light phone 3 on the spot. Thank you for the inspiration.

@AndrewFolts

2 күн бұрын

Right on! Score +1 for the Rebels and -1 for the evil Empire, ha! It makes a lot more sense to me, as well, to have a "light" phone actually be lighter and less like a normal smartphone. Can't wait for the LP3 to come out. Cheers!

I've been looking at both phones too... I was also put off by the "censorship" vibes that felt decidely "control" oriented rather than "freedom" oriented. Another well made, creative, informative (and wonderfully creative) video, Andrew. 'Ppreciacha!

@AndrewFolts

2 күн бұрын

Yea, it's an odd vibe for a phone that's supposed to "set you free" to feel so controlling. I definitely feel happier and more creative vibes from the LP. Appreciate you hanging out Jaymi, cheers!

400$ for a phone that can almost nothing? Why not just buy a cheap smartphone for the same price and make it light/dumb?

@SimplicityForGood

6 күн бұрын

you still have not understood much at all... what if you stop watching videos too smart for you and go somewhere like Apple Store right now and sign up to give away all your privacy here now.. please do it... they will love you for it! dumb boy, all cheap smartphones do the same as every expensive smartphone, they just make a lot more money ripping you off your life!

@AndrewFolts

6 күн бұрын

Because where would the fun be in in that? And if you're trying to avoid addiction, why would you want something that looks exactly like the addictive/toxic thing you're trying to escape? I love the LP 2 and 3. They feel unique-something I'm actually proud to own and get joy out of using. Also, although you can "make" a smartphone dumb, it's just as easy to reinstall addictive apps, which 99% of people end up doing. With the LP 2/3 that's simply impossible, which feels amazing. (:

Hey Andrew, two phones I just found out about are the Minimal Phone and the Sleke Phone, I'm wondering if you'd give your two cents on those?

@AndrewFolts

6 күн бұрын

Interesting, it looks similar to Wisephone, but with a more unique company culture. Can't give much of an opinion, since it seems like they haven't decided yet what apps will be on the phone and are still beta testing it.

Hey Andrew. I was wanting a phone to have call quality on par with my iPhone 7, have texting still be relatively easy, and have wifi texting/calling in a pinch, and a camera. I'm tired of the smartphone slab form factor, but the two dumb phones I have tried, Sunbeam Orchid and Nokia, both had mediocre call quality so I went back to my Iphone 7. How's the call quality on light phone? Maybe it's unrealistic of me to think these small manufacturers can match the call quality?

@AndrewFolts

5 күн бұрын

The Light Phone 2 sounded great to me with headphones, although the speaker is lousy. I never put a phone up to my head, since it increases the load of radiation, which we're already bathed in 24/7. They waited 5 years before starting to build the LP3 and the design looks premium with high end materials, so I have to imagine the speaker and call quality will be on par with regular smartphones.

I understand why parents would want to be able to see what’s happening on their child’s phone, but they delete contacts that your child program on their phone. It’s a big no-no for me mainly because there’s some helicopter or some parents who like to abuse their powers we’ll start deleting contacts of child friend just on the basis of you talk to them too much or some other reason and that’s not OK. It’s one thing for the phone to be like your child sending inappropriate things. You probably should have a talk with them then straight up giving you power to do things without them knowing

@AndrewFolts

3 күн бұрын

Yea, that was my thought, as well. Generally if kids are in fact getting into "real" trouble, it's usually because there's some deeper issue that hasn't been addressed at home, and it's better to work on opening voluntary communication lines than aggressively controlling a child's connections to the outside world.

I'd like a video on where owning the Light Phone III might actually trip someone up. For example, will I be able to use 2fa properly? What about unlocking a CitiBike in NYC? They do still have physical keys but for how long? And isn't the co-founder of Lyft an investor and doesn't Lyft own CitiBike? Just saying. I definitely love the idea of the phone and have pre-ordered one ... but I wonder if some "essential" function ... some tool that I NEED... will be missing and drive me back to a smartphone.... making this whole experiment a waste of money. I have a feeling certain tools are just not negotiable on a phone anymore and I also feel like maybe Light Phone III doesn't yet quite have enough of them to make their product a true, workable, long-lasting replacement. Hopefully I am wrong.

@AndrewFolts

6 күн бұрын

Obviously, they can't include every possible tool, or the Light Phone will just be a regular smartphone. This is why I don't live in a city. I don't want to be forced to live a certain way. That said, you could get an small tablet and tether it to the Light Phone via the hotspot, which would give you the extra features you need in a more ungainly size that's not as addictive as a pocketable smartphone.

The light phone was made with love ❤️

@AndrewFolts

6 күн бұрын

Yea, it's like adopting an adorable grayscale puppy. (:

Would you recommend selling my iPhone if I al switched to a dumb phone?

@AndrewFolts

Күн бұрын

It depends on your requirements. For example, some people in certain counties literally can't live without WhatsApp, which the LP doesn't yet have (but may eventually). For me, even the LP2 was good enough and had all the features I needed to get through daily life. You just have to ask yourself whether you really NEED certain features, or if you only LIKE the convenience and could live without them.

Have you seen the upcoming Boring phone? There's not too much information on it at the moment I don't think.

@AndrewFolts

4 күн бұрын

Just read the landing page. The idea of temporarily or permanently blocking apps is interesting, but there would have to be a way to undo it for safety reasons (like if you accidentally disabled the GPS or something), which means that it probably isn't that hard to reinstall addictive apps. I prefer that un-phoneness of the LP3, where the Wisephone and BoringPhone just look like regular smartphones. I'd also be wary of investing in BoringPhone, given the limited info and generic branding. It's not a project I expect to succeed.

@cbolt8089

4 күн бұрын

@@AndrewFolts I agree, if I can unlock apps the chances are I will, and I don't see the point of a big screen if I'm not supposed to be using it! I've preordered a LP3 so that's what I'm holding out for.

Since my life is already harder because I’m still holding an iPhone 6 wich can’t even download the vast majority of the apps in the store and can’t read QR (wich have been a big inconvenience to order in a lot of restaurants, specially since the pandemic), can’t even think of buy one of these two. Light phone looks is amazing though.❤ Plus, you probably need a good computer to do what you can’t do with your phone. Too bad I have an iMac from 2009.😅

@AndrewFolts

6 күн бұрын

Yea, using older or more limited tech certainly can limit you in unexpected ways, although I've often found it leads to positive life changes. Like texting less and calling more, getting better with real maps, and being out in nature with no tech. That said, I feel like the LP3 will solve the major hangups for a lot of people. Sending love to your 2009 iMac...hang in there little buddy! (:

@angrycatalan325

6 күн бұрын

@@AndrewFolts thanks for the love!🤣 But let’s be real, if you get a Light Phone you have to have also your wallet with your credit card with you, otherwise how are you going to pay for stuff? Also, a restaurant that only has QR as for menu, how do you order then? How do you check your bank account with these phone? A phone is not only for texting/calling or navigation… My point is that another gadget (computer, tablet) have to come by to save the day, right? I wish I could buy the Light Phone and rely on it for my day to day life, but I think you can’t. We are trapped in this capitalism 😅

@AndrewFolts

6 күн бұрын

@@angrycatalan325 Light is planning on implementing contactless payments, so that shouldn't be an issue longterm. I've never once come across a restaurant that didn't have a menu, so it's never been a problem. I also have no need to check my bank account on my phone. That's something I'd do on the computer. I don't feel trapped by capitalism at all, I've rarely been in a situation where I needed a smartphone, even after three years.

Light phone all the way..no way would I ever buy the wisephone. Love the light phone team and supporting their vision. January is too far away I want my LP3 now!!!

@AndrewFolts

4 күн бұрын

I knowwwww!! It's a long wait, but I'm sure they'll drip out plenty of updates a long the way to sustain us, ha. (:

The lightphone 3 has a matte oled screen which is much better than regular led for eye strain/light sensitivity.

@AndrewFolts

5 күн бұрын

I wonder if it's like that Apple Studio Display, which is also matte? I looked at it once in the Apple store and it did indeed feel much better than a regular glossy screen.

The Wisephone looks exactly like a smartphone (because it is ... with customization), that's a deal breaker for me.

@AndrewFolts

4 күн бұрын

Yea, me too. The Wisephone can still be hacked back into a regular smartphone, so why not just get a regular smartphone and hack it into a Wisephone with basic app limitations, if it looks the same anyway?

Id love to see a video how you use the lightphone 2/3 on a day to day basis, and break down hoe you like the apps. A big make or break for me is music/navigation. I have to have those 2 things otherwise its a no go.

@AndrewFolts

6 күн бұрын

The navigation on the LP2 works fine in text mode, although the visual map view is unusable. The LP3 will presumedly be much better, thanks to them switching to a normal LED screen. For music, I just upload MP3's to the dashboard and they're automatically synced to the LP2. It's not as nice as Spotify, but you can use the tool NoteBurner to download playlists/albums from your account.

Light phone 3 or minimal phone?

@AndrewFolts

3 күн бұрын

Light Phone 3, hands down. I like that the Minimal Phone has an e ink screen, but the design is clunky and there's no info about the company on their website. Probably a Chinese knockoff brand, which means you're going to get a low quality product, from the UI to the build materials, and durability.

Your lack of research on wisephone is kinda biased. Watch the guys video with Pints with Aquinas. Your video is just sad

@AndrewFolts

5 күн бұрын

As stated, the point of the video was not about specs. On paper both the Light Phone 3 and Wisephone 2 have the same basic features and will work fine from a practical perspective. So there was no need to cover this. What did need covering was the underlying motivations of each company. On the one hand, you have Light Phone, who are transparent, funny, creative, unique, and ethical, while on the other you have Techless, who are shady, unoriginal, manipulative, and deceptive-hiding behind stock photography, intentionally burying info about their CEO's history (Chick-fil-A, etc), and encouraging toxic controlling behavior in parents. Even if Wisephone was actually an amazing product (which it's not), I still would never buy from such a morally corrupt brand.