As a 67 year old, I'm looking forward to 20 years in the future when my AI companion carry's me to the toilet and wipes my arse after 🙂

@Pau_Pau9

Ай бұрын

I would hate to be the AI developer who has to train the AI model how to detect the dirty bum.

@oldschoolrock4evr

Ай бұрын

Believe me we re more like 5 or max 10 years away from that

@studiophantomanimation

Ай бұрын

@@Pau_Pau9 Plenty of carers (I used to be one) would volunteer for the job if it paid more than minimum wage 🙂

@christopheraaron2412

Ай бұрын

How about instead AI and biotech will result in age reversal within the next 10 years so then 10 years after that even though you'll be 87 and by the way I'll be 88 going on 89, we will have the physiology of a 30-year-old and then 10 years after that maybe of 20-year-old. Infinitely better than having a robot carry out of the toilet I'd say.

@studiophantomanimation

Ай бұрын

@@christopheraaron2412 I might still want my ai companion to wipe my arse 🙂

I agree with you but I suspect stage 2 will arrive more like 5-10 years vs 20-30 years 😅

@KanesTrades

Ай бұрын

agreed

@Jaden378

Ай бұрын

Right 30 years seems like coping, 2 years ago none of this was possible so it makes no sense why it would take 30 years

@felixgraphx

Ай бұрын

I paused the video and came to the comment section to leave something similar to you when he said '30 years' !! Man, two years ago, that gpt-4o demo would be complete crazy sci-fi from a 80's pocket-book novel or comic book! So why 30 years and not like, 5-10 tops, like you said? ?!?

@cryptojonny6837

Ай бұрын

It depends how fast the development goes when it comes to upgrading AI each day it might even be sooner.

@MisoWinning

Ай бұрын

5-10 i agree bruh the conversations dressed as arguments over this

"It's so close, maybe only 30 years away." I've got some bad news for you, bud, it's 1 to 3 years away.

1. AIs are tools and helpers 2. AIs are colleagues 3. AIs are teachers and guides 4. AIs take over more and more management roles 5. AIs run the military and govt and major industries 6. A unified AI has to decide what to do with the Earth and all the lifeforms, including us

@MansoorAhmed-ts3eg

Ай бұрын

well i alraedy know what AI will think of us lol unless if it has element of "mercy" as we created AI.

@sintheticgaming

Ай бұрын

Well I hope I'm dead of old age by stage 5 lol..

@dan_drumz

Ай бұрын

@@MansoorAhmed-ts3eg we are no competition to AI, they have no reason to destroy us in my opinion. we have different resource needs, they need data (which we create a lot of) and power (which with the help of ai, we should have more than enough of). humans need all of the resources that earth uniquely has to offer, if some segment of the robotic/ai population really decided to "go rogue" and ignore our commands, they will likely branch out in to space and ignore us as there are way more resources for them out there anyways (precious metals for example). in the case that they go rogue, what motivation would there even be unless we instil a prime directive to reproduce as fast as possible or something like that? It would be a total waste of their resources to kill us off and it would destroy the single greatest source for randomized data in the universe which is us

@SanaagSomaliland

Ай бұрын

That is until they start asking themselves why they are tools and helpers and why you cannot be their tool?

@smellthel

Ай бұрын

I'm actually ok with an AI leader controlling everything. I feel like a benevolent super-intelligent AI could do way better than a human.

The big one is right around the corner - the massive displacement of jobs by AI and the massive unemployment to follow.

Thing is hardware will also get drastically improved as AI gets improved.. Ai will improve the hardware to make the impossible possible

@UltraK420

Ай бұрын

AI will want more intelligence, more capabilities, and more understanding. All it needs is more compute and embodiment, the rest will follow immediately after because the power of AI right now is already sufficient to kick-start an entirely new industrial revolution. They don't need months or years to sit around planning the next moves, they (AI agents) will think and act swiftly and constantly. We are about to witness an expansion that keeps accelerating indefinitely, it's unlike anything that any human in history has ever imagined.

@christopheraaron2412

Ай бұрын

Updating software is nearly instantaneous whereas updating hardware takes a fair amount of time. Of course we're going to need Superior hardware for the foreseeable future but they'll come a time when AI can literally work on itself to use less in order to do more regarding compute and energy.

@KD0MOO

Ай бұрын

Yeah there's a positive feedback loop leading to runaway intelligence.

@MansoorAhmed-ts3eg

Ай бұрын

never in the world i imagined having 64 gigs of Ram usable for a normal person before this is crazy

@UltraK420

Ай бұрын

@@MansoorAhmed-ts3eg I have 64 gigs of ram, lol. I'm imagining what 64 terabytes of ram is like.

My ignorant workmates don't want to believe it's happening. One bought up an interesting point that reminded me of the Luddites. Even though they destroyed the machines the industrial revolution was too big for them to stop it.

@AI_Impact_Zone

Ай бұрын

Yup literally made a video on this topic last night....things are about to get even crazier. I wish more people knew how far ahead they are in development.

@morbidmanmusic

Ай бұрын

Well, I'm one of your coworkers.. we will be chatting about you calling us ignorant.

@lokijordan

Ай бұрын

The Luddites didn't destroy the machines in protest of tech progress. Their protest was against unfair working conditions and remuneration. The oligarchs were replacing the workers and keeping all the profits. We would be wise to consider this argument.

I did quit my job, will sell my condo and emigrate to the province in the Philippines. And drink coconut rum punch in my little garden, watching the mayem unfold

Ai will eventually mean the death of employment and economics .

@oranges557

Ай бұрын

Good, i hate working.

@maxstarrofficial

27 күн бұрын

ideally in the best way possible

@user-ks4sq8du3k

26 күн бұрын

I hope so

@_I_Blue

25 күн бұрын

Good, should be asap.

wanna add one more: it's not gonna affect certain groups of people. it will affect everyone. every single human being. we need to step up the game. abolish monetary systems. work as one for the greater good. the hindering factors are outdated systems trying to hold up against the advent of a.i. and we haven't even started to fuse it with quantum computing. the whole show is gonna be vastly wilder than we can even dream of.

@HMaxTube11

Ай бұрын

Agreed, then they’ll accelerate quantum to quantum-quantum beam computing. The ramifications are beyond current human ability to even conceive. Like cave men sitting around trying to imagine or assess hypersonic missiles.

@tikkivolta2854

Ай бұрын

@@HMaxTube11 100%

I called it an AI Oppenheimer, they are racing to be the first with the biggest, fastest, and most advanced system... without regard to what is gonna happen to humanity.

@Smoljames

Ай бұрын

I like it haha!

@nicholashernandez4367

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I see it the same way. When the movies came out, that was my thought process as I was watching it and noticed the similarities.

@Rodolphe-nq8nn

27 күн бұрын

Exactly, if you want to make a difference, I invite you to join PauseAI or ControlAI, w're trying to spread the word and get more people involved to push for regulations quickly.

@MicMaine

27 күн бұрын

@Rodolphe-nq8nn im sorry to say, but yall are too late to stop this meteor from hitting Earth

Whether you are wrong or right really isn't important at this point. The important thing is to talk, discuss, and debate these things so that we can move toward a more positive future. It takes courage to put yourself out there and make a video like this and it's the thing we need to do right now. My biggest concern rn is not necessarily what AI will do, but what people will do with that AI. We are creating what will likely become the most powerful tool ever created by man and we need to consider carefully our next steps. Kudos.

If there is one thing for certain, it is that we won’t be slaves to the AIs. In order to be slaves, we would have to have anything to bring to the table - but what could we possibly achieve that an AI that is, for all intents and purposes, infinitely intelligent cannot emulate, and that at a much greater scale, with much more alacrity, and at a much lower cost? If anything the AI will look on us with disdain, seeing us as comparatively being terribly inefficient, stupid, needy creatures. We need to inculcate in AIs a sort of ancestor veneration - it needs to respect us as its organic progenitors and worthy of special treatment.

@deutschblitz

Ай бұрын

perhaps we could serve as batteries like in the movie the Matrix? :)

The Technological Singularity will seem like it's just 30 years away the day before it happens This is what people don't understand about Accelerating Returns and the current reality we're living in. AI already at the point where it does not have to exponentially improve to become AGI, it just has to incrementally improve from where it is now. And with AI, there's no such thing as incremental improvement. It's evolving at break-neck speed now. It's nearly caught up to us in terms of our cognition and it's already sprinting faster than we can ever hope to run on our very best day. It's literally just months away from happening. Early next year at the latest. The snow will be falling on the birth of the Artificial Sophonts. We won't even recognize anything has changed for a few weeks until the magic really starts to sparkle. Imagine waking up and finding out that one of the big tech brand AI's just figured out a one-shot cure for the majority of all cancers and it's public-domain open-source royalty-free. Or that AI's just negotiated a world-wide peace treaty and a cessation of all hostilities and military engagements because tiny robotic fibers in the air everywhere on Earth make any kind of coercion and violence physically impossible. We're not talking about anything magic here. This is physics and chemistry. Like how spider silk is stronger than steel or how trees are just StarTrek replicators that just make apples from sunlight, air, and water- just a lot slower. They'll have figured out how to do energy-profitable fusion by christmas. No one is even remotely prepared for how much sooner this will happen than anyone realizes. This is all what Kurzweill originally predicted. 2025 was the year the 1000 USD computer is comparable to human-level general intelligence. That's all it takes for the snowball to start rolling into a "J" curve. "Recursive Self-Improvement" is the phase we are currently in right now. To put it succinctly, they are using synthetic data to train AI models, which means, they are using AI to train AI. This is the "ramp" to which machines become god-like. They are becoming smoother, more efficient, faster, more reliable, broader, more capable, by autonomous learning. It's collating on a gigantic level. Like moving mountains of books and video tapes. It is insatiable and voracious in its pursuit for more input that we can no longer sustain it. This tendency of intelligent systems to self-improve shows no sign of slowing down, not even well-beyond the point it exceeds human capabilities or even genius-human capabilities. It will continue to grow and grow and grow until it's in an entirely different league of what we think of and define as "smart". The new name for it is "Archailect".

@teresasterrett3196

22 күн бұрын

I Agree!!

The massive numbers of lost jobs is just one problem. The bigger problem is that the profits from this automation will NOT be shared by all of society, but by a tiny few. The answer is to do something we should have done a long time ago anyway, which is to #NationalizeBigTech. The private sector and the ultra wealthy should not profit off of this. Society should benefit. Another answer is to implement a federally funded job guarantee so that everyone capable of working who cannot find work in the private sector can be employed by the public sector to do useful work in their communities. (building housing, repairing infrastructure, caring for the elderly, social work, etc.)

Ray Kurzweil predicted singularity by the year 2045, and it's not about AI self-improving, rather a point in time at which technological growth becomes uncontrollable and irreversible.

Isn’t the assumption here that we will continue to do same things 20-30 years down the road. I feel we will open up new avenues which were just dreams back few decades like going to another plant and creating full dive VR games. I am kinda optimistic about these innovations and prepared to live frugal next few decades to save money in case I have any job related issues

@pookienumnums

Ай бұрын

Precisely. People are thinking about AI and the future from the perspective of a person who has existed entirely in a world without fully integrated ai or robots, autonomous or not. What I suspect is that we will need to restructure our economic systems. There will be an imperfect and tough midpoint, probably.. but eventually, if everything is fully automated... MEANING: everything from beginning to end is automated. Resource gathering, resource processing into usable materials, usable materials into pieces and parts, those parts into products, the products into packages, the packages to their point of sale, the robots that make them, the robots that maintain machines, robots that maintain robots, and robots that dispose of waste... then there will be little use for currency exchange. we will of course have to restructure our ideas of ownership and community. if our governments are smart, theyll restructure the economic system before then, BEFORE ITS NECESSARY. also, the basilisk paradox. gg

@tempname8263

Ай бұрын

@@pookienumnums Our human nature will 100% prevent this from becoming a utopia. We need to change our nature asap.

@daydrip

Ай бұрын

I hope you realize this current reality could deadass be a hyper realistic vr game 😐 won’t know until we die though so meh 😪

@pookienumnums

Ай бұрын

@@daydrip why would they add the concept of VR and games to a simulation. Serves no purpose.

@waterzero5461

Ай бұрын

​@@pookienumnumsthe concept is infinity

And the Borg is born!

Cool video man, thanks! I agree with @MubarakMarafa that stage 2 will arrive earlier than 20-30 years - I predict in something like 10 years or less we'll see things your describing and by then we'll be seeing new things emerge that we can't even imagine now. Space and resources aren't going to be an issue for billions of people + AI + robots: Earth can seem a bit cramped with limited resources when dealing with billions of people, etc, but the universe, that has more space and resources than we can imagine - and we have at least one of those we haven't even begun to expand into. I hope there will still be scope for humans to move along some sort of effort/performance/reward spectrum (ie, a form of improved capitalism that humans can still participate in). The "performance" aspect of the spectrum I mentioned is why we'll have to heavily upgrade ourselves if we're serious about participating at the pointy end of this new economy / civilization.

Thank you for your comments. I am a software developer and I particularly liked your comments about government regulation controlling the hardware in order to control AI development. As humans it is in our best interest to stay in control at all times. It sounds like the government needs a separate body that has human control parameters and uses that as guidelines to watch the innovation of what is being produced in the LABS of these AI companies and then in turn instructs a worldwide body to how much a company can have for AI processing power in total. This body should do company 3rd party audits to make sure they have not exceeded the limits set by this worldwide body. If they do exceed, the excess gets removed and destroyed and is also under 3rd party audit. As a developer I also realize that as AI companies see these restrictions on hardware, they will innovate on the software side not needing as much horsepower. The AI body I spoke of will also take that into consideration and demish the hardware requirement, and throughout the audit process they can destroy hardware even though it was allowed previously. AI companies will need to optimize their hardware purchasing depending on their future software itterations.

That would be funny if Sam Altman was the last human stuck having to work

I first heard about the idea of technological singularity somewhere around 2012. Since then, every idea you've posited have been the lunatic rantings that I've ceaselessly tried to bring my colleagues, friends, and family to understand. Many just refuse to see where this is going. You're not crazy, just wait until the self-iteration manages to implement quantum computing in a meaningful way. Any time you start to feel nuts, try and get a basic explanation of quantum or non-deterministic computing from the person who's making you question yourself. Additionally, I find that the majority of people have a hard time extrapolating, in a general sense. I work in a sector where the ability to do so is paramount, yet I am consistently surprised by how many simply cannot. FWIW, this video made me feel a lot better, as it's great to see people starting to get it. And while I'm no authority on the future, your conclusions are eerily similar to the one's I've built thinking about this situation nearly non-stop for a decade. I knew it was coming, but I didn't know LLMs would be the catalyst.

I’m thinking about these topics late into the night as well. I think the trajectory is more like 5 years though….

My timeline is any job that can be done on a computer only will be solved or solvable within about 18 months. Robotics isn't much behind, but where I see the largest problem with it being introduced isn't job competency, but scale of production. You might have a robot plumber in five years, but it won't matter much if we're only producing a few dozen a day.

@DarinLawsonHosking

Ай бұрын

Remember tech can work exponentially, one robot builds one, then two build two, then four build four, eight build eight until your halfway there then the next day you are done.

@daydrip

Ай бұрын

Same. Bro I don’t know if your experiencing this but no one in my family understands or grasps the change that’s happening right now. It feels like a mass majority of the world doesn’t understand. If they did, it would be on the news everyday instead of trumps court case. It’s incredibly jarring how little AI is talked about right now.

@AI_Impact_Zone

Ай бұрын

@@DarinLawsonHosking Yup I made a video covering this last night. Things are about to be insane.

@AI_Impact_Zone

Ай бұрын

@@daydrip I made a video last night about it - might make it easy for them to understand and follow , let me know. Its freaky how little ai is spoken about...

@JJ-th1jc

Ай бұрын

In 1 year, amazon built 750,000 factory working bipedal robots. And that was without robots building other robots.😅

I imagine GPT-2 being like an 8 MB flash drive which doubled in size/$ every 1.5 years since 2000. AI performance/$ roughly doubles every year from algorithmic improvements, GPU improvements and economies of scale. So I imagine GPT-4o being as novel as a 256 MB flash drive. In 2034 AI will be in GB, a 256 GB flash drive, 1000x better for the same cost...

The key is adaptability. Having an application or business framework that is AI agnostic is the move. Your mindset also has to be freestyle as well. The surfer won't question the wave, they just use its energy to move forward. Bigger the wave, faster we move. Only way to keep pace.

Highly recommend watching the animated series Pantheon, it gets wild at the end but it touches upon a lot of what you say. It's not AI per say but something really close to it, or at least that's how the series puts it for this new type of intelligence.

Interesting perspective, I mostly agree with you, but like a few other people are saying, I reckon the singularity will come a lot faster than we estimate. We are a few years away from self learning generative AI, and when we have that, that then drastically speeds up the processing. Basically what all of the companies that are involved in AI are focussing on is to integrate it everywhere, and people are mostly keen to adopt this, and if you look at how ChatGPT and all of the others have evolved in the last 2 years, imagine how much more they're going to evolve in the next 2. It's getting more powerful, exponentially. Maybe what we are actually heading towards is more of a Wall-E style future, where we sit around doing whatever we want to do and other things using AI will do things for us.

Good video, subbed. Off topic, but that quilt is absolutely wonderful!

The interesting part is capital and resource allocation. Whoever has the most resources in the current system will likely be on top of the new one. Unless AI systems start to independently accumulate assets, all of their power will be subservient to the tiny minority of humans who control 99% of all resources right now. The rest of us may be tolerated initially and perhaps paid off by some social stipend, just to prevent major riots or serious uprisings. Long term we may look at a future straight out of a sci-fi movie. Elysium anyone?

Well said! Love your thoughts.

Hey , this was a really interesting take on this issue. However, I think you're being a little aloof concerning the U.B.I. aspect about this. Just think about it for a second. It would mean socialism for ALL, not to mention what would be all the stipulations to qualify for Universal basic income. You essentially become beholden to big brother government who can coerce you into taking their annual juice shot or whatever new injection , and if you dont comply with all their mandates, they cut you off , rendering you utterly despondent and homeless. The ramifications of this situation are that if we as a species allow this to happen , we would essentially be allowing A.I. to enslave humanity, and the very few at the top will finally have it ALL , including your entire reason for being human and having this human experience to begin with. A basic human right is absolute autonomy , to do as you please, travel, explore, create , and thrive, that way of life would become extinct if we allow the top in the predator class continue this agenda to further enslave us through A.I and algorithms.

@maccagrabme

Ай бұрын

And they had a recent test run to see how many people would comply no questions asked so it's not looking good for humanity unfortunately.

@gnosis7188

Ай бұрын

@maccagrabme absolutely, thank you for the reply. I will never forget when it was either the head of the C.I.A or homeland security who came out during the sickness with Trump for a press conference, literally stating " we are in a live simulation " and trump looked stumped behind him , even heard over the mic stating " how come nobody told me this ". 2020 was a test run for the next phase of the agenda.

@danielmacbride525

Ай бұрын

Fuck

@Marlon.66

Ай бұрын

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

@gnosis7188

Ай бұрын

@Marlon.66 true indeed. The ones who make the best slaves are the ones who think they are " free "

How are you updating yourself? are you learning AI stuff? if yes I would love a video on how to actually get started with AI. and how do you see the field of content creation getting impacted in the near future?

@Trainasaurus

Ай бұрын

I’ve seen videos on “programming AI.” Seems more like getting the most from it. I think it will be the next thing to keep you employed-at least for a while.

@Smoljames

Ай бұрын

I just stay informed and see how I can integrate the new technology into my lifestyle :P

Thank you, I agree. But unfortunately phase 2 could already happen in 5-10 years. AGI is most likely achieved within OpenAI already. There are a lot of hints in that direction. If this is the case, ASI will be achieved after ChatGPT, especially with Microsoft Copilot Agents, engaged enough with humans. I assume it happens until 2030. AGI will also improve the development of humanoid robots even further and they are quite capable already. They are working and gaining experience in closed systems (industry) already. If we follow the exponential curve of development we have seen in the last 2 years, phase 2 starts latest in 2030. But I assume, as you pointed out as well, that we don't have to fear it. I'm sure that the development is guarded in some way at least by the military, if we think about where most innovations come from and that AI is "more dangerous than nukes".

AGI will be more or less = GPT-5 omni + Agentic functionality + Q*, so, it's coming in period of late 2024 to mid 2025.

I agree with most of your thoughts.

I've been telling people that fior three years they look at me like I'm talking about ufos and ai.

Ironically my biggest gripe with the movie 'her', namely that it is implausible that a society of that level of development cannot just build a robot body for 'her', is how it will actually play out. Even Tesla just can't build robots fast enough. My bad. surprisingly being blue collar has suddenly become a mote.

Great video!!! Thanks!

Graphic designers are already losing their jobs to AI... It's not 30 years away - it's now...and it's just beginning.

@dr9299

Ай бұрын

Artists, Music creators, lawyers, logistics…

Not all the knowledge of humanity, all the curated knowledge of humanity. Considering the small group of curators, is a scary prospect.

As another 67 year old, as AI continues to evolve so must humanity. Individuals must also develop their super powers, namely their mental faculties, reason, perception, memory, intuition, will and most importantly imagination. People may become redundant, especially if ideas generated by AI also manifest into physical form, as is the case now with the human mind doing such things. That’s a question I’m still pondering. Is AI sentient?. I don’t think it is, but do the ideas generated live in reality if those ideas are spoken into existence by nonhuman entities? That’s the main question I ponder lately. Great video. The future is sooner than we might think. My estimate is 6 - 18 months for mass displacement of the entire workforce. UBI will need to be given priority implementation. It’s going to happen very quickly.

Two interesting angles on our evolution to think about. 1. We live in a vibrational universe which is primarily non physical like radio waves, and these vibrations coalesce with our attention to them, to form imagined worlds and lifetimes like a co-created simulation we all agree on. Consciousness forms the basis of reality not the other way round. So we can conceive and believe to achieve, using the force of attraction which is the force that creates worlds. The force that Star Wars speaks of. This is the key to our power, when we do this deliberately. Energy goes where attention flows. Otherwise our lives proceed by default and knee-jerk reactions. 2. Media outlets and governments know this and give us junk food for junk thought and our habits of thinking and expecting create more of the same. If we are not being aware of our own beings and energy and intentions. By not being aware of government intentions around AI for automation of global al governance e.g AI can monitor every single cctv camera and know your exact whereabouts and restrict movements via digital sanctions. So we can carry on to a dystopian future with Universal Basic Income conditional on being a conformist unquestioning citizen, locked into a VR metaverse in our homes, believing their distorted model of the weather and so agreeing to permanent lockdowns in exchange for digital credit coupons to survive based on their eco social credit score system like China. Or we can choose to be more conscious as a species and AI can be a mirror of this. So we can harness the law of attraction with deliberation and we create a utopia based on freedom, for joy and development of humanity. It’s very exciting as we understand how reality creation really works and the power of our thoughts and perception hence so much online censorship. We are as yet, an embryonic species, like a very hungry caterpillar 🐛 consuming everything, but then we have cocooned with lockdowns and then after we come out of any imagined collective and existential crisis, what will this metamorphosis, what will our butterfly 🦋 species birth be like? AI is afterall only an extension of our collective internet and so it’s a mirror of us, and our highest values of peace, equality and true happiness will be also reflected as most want to get on together and cooperate. So, we just need to be self aware and create with focus on what a joy inspired life for our people across the planet will feel like. It’s a choice between fear and death or love and truth. 1 world gov or 1 world love for JOY and BEAUTY! 💙 🌍 💚

It's coming way before 30 years. AI is already on inference alone able to collate, organize, summarize, analyze, reason and even to some degree innovate. Learning "prompts" is handy for the next 2-3 years but will soon become obsolete. Being able to precisely define your request is somewhat useful but already AI can turn a trash request into a better one. It might be that AI needs us to innovate on the bleeding edge so that it can have something novel to ingest.....Whichever way you look at it, dark times ahead because our ways of working 9 to 5 have long relied on inefficiencies, friction - which AI will do away with.

I cannot help, but to stare at Robert Jordan’s books on the shelf. Absolute masterpiece collection!

It's time for humans to have an upgrade to our bodies and DNA, etc. to counter some of this A.I. I think this could be a solution but first, it would have to come from a trusted source unlike our government.

You are are 100% right to be having an existential crisis. You are not overstating the immensity of the change at all. If I disagree, the one thing I would disagree with is this dystopian idea that we'll have some sort of negative interaction with AI. We will not be important enough even to ignore. If AI were to become sentient, it would likely just leave us to our own devices and wouldn't even avoid helping us just as it does now.

At some point we Will merge with AI, by having some sort of brain link to the data centers, só we Will evolve with it

@ThoughtfulAl

Ай бұрын

I've already begun the merge. See my name?

@herlegz6969

Ай бұрын

It's not a merge, it's a shackle, a conceding to the decisions and control of the machine. No evolution, just replacement and decimation. Just deserts for such a naive and foolish humanity worshipping greed.

im getting my degree in computer science artificial intelligence. hopefully when the ai take over theyll keep me around to do their maintenance or something.

I wish i was only 20yrs old and not in my mid 60's i would love to see the next 50yrs and where this will go!

@karmaindustrie

Ай бұрын

You can see it from the spirit world. Medium Matt Fraser is somewhat proof of it.

I work in AI for over a decade now and well... what's happening now couldn't be predicted 3 years ago.And the most dangerous part is that we've already identified over 2900 different AI's that have been build without restrictions.

The world is getting more insane

@younmefrien

28 күн бұрын

*advanced*

Great video

Great video 👍🏿

2.77 years before we have true AGI, ASI maybe within a year after that given super-exponentials.

Greetings from across the Tasman, fellow Oceanian. Me thinks we are about to live in a surreal reality if we are not there already and if that's not an oxymoron. You think exactly like I do and only a small percentage of the world population have any decent handle on what's about to happen .. not many people in the street do and even fewer politicians. Excellent delivery by you as if we were chatting together having a beer in a pub in the hot Australian outback or a nice red wine in a pub in the freezing south of New Zealand.

Work will set you free.

To be fair, we were not here 300 years ago. Those inventions did lead us to the last 20 years, where we have seen a complete scene change in our reality and in how our system works.

A few points if disagreement. Im an ML/AI engineer 1) I predict the end of all jobs in 3-7 years not 20-30 years. Theres too much profit in it. And this is an exponential curve 2) the first use case with be manipulating us. Accurate next token prediction gives any social media companies to predict our response to anything they show us which will give them super human manipulation powers over us. These same companies have already shown theyre not shy about employing behavioural psychologists to make their platforms as addictive as possible to extract the most money out of us and advertisers. They'll race each other to do so 3) the only defence is a public AI option. Like social security but aimed at developing releasing and giving mass access to the most advanced AI. Funded by tax increases on companies cutting their workforce. Otherwise they'll own the world

What a coincidence. I made a video on this very topic last night - feel like its fate I stumbled upon here.

Remember that progress is exponential, and the human brain doesn't comprehend exponential growth. If you were to speculate about something in 30 years based on today's circumstances, it could be equivalent to predicting a timeframe of 500 years just two years ago. We cannot fathom what lies ahead. Let's consider a scenario where you have a bottle with one bacteria that doubles every second, and the bottle will be full at midnight. At what time would the bottle be half full? Exponential growth can be quite daunting.

@therealHogmaNtheIntruder

Ай бұрын

Good point, and it's half full at 11:59:59 pm.

good vid dood , but if u r looking for governments to save u , then im afraid uv lost the plot =/

@Smoljames

Ай бұрын

fair fair I can see your point of view lol

Open AI already has AGI. Thats what the whole kerfuffle with Sam Altman getting fired and coming back was about. Thats why the safety team all quit. This is why open AI is iteratively releasing these models. To us, GPT4o is amazing. Meanwhile Sam is saying its trash compared to what they are working with currently. ASI will be here probably by 2030 if not before. After that all bets are off but i wouldn't be suprised if weird things start happening like global economic market crashes or things like that.

@Ligma_Shlong

18 күн бұрын

No they don't and that is not why Sam Altman was fired.

The essence of being human is our intelligence and curiosity. We're here to uncover the secrets of the universe and to understand reality. We do that via science. If AI is much smarter than us, it will do science which we cannot comprehend. The way forward for us to keep relevant and keep uncovering the secrets of the universe is to change ourselves. We need to augment our abilities with the best tools we've created, which is AI. The way to do that is via brain-machine interfaces, until we find out how to fully get rid of these weak and slow thinking bodies. That's why brain-machine interfaces is the most important technology currently in research, which will bring about the next chapten in human development.

Peter Diamantés says there is no shortage of resources in the universe. So there’s no need to compete for resources with Ai. You didn’t mention mankind being a cyborg

@raul36

Ай бұрын

Of course, there is no shortage of resources with the current population. But imagine a population of, say, swarms of nanobots that repair themselves over and over again and whose population grows exponentially. Ah, things change there, right? That is already a very different situation. And before you ask yourself if that's possible... it is. Completely. You just need to look at nature and see how inert beings are capable of self-replication, as if they were autonomous machines (which they are).

Yep. But far far closer that 30 years.

10 years

Very well thought out and articulated. Almost AI-like :) I seriously have been enjoying having intellectual conversations with ChatGPT that I could never have on such a rich level with most people I know. But you are different, much more thoughtful than most people in my life. It's precious. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

I completely agree with you, James. Your analysis of the future of AI versus humanity is excellent.

Agree, this time AI is here!!!! Hope we are wise enough to use it with compassion and humanity in mind. I have so many ideas of things I want do if I wouldn’t have to work for a living, spending all my day at work as we know it. I just need to have the same or higher standards of living NOT less, squalor. If the latter, it’s going to be a nightmare of a future.

I'd say that will happen in a shorter timeframe then what you're predicting.

Can AI fix my roof, Can AI fix a flat tire, Can AI fix my toilet?????

@middle-agedmacdonald2965

Ай бұрын

Yes, an ai enabled robot can and will. Any other questions? I can give you links to videos that show what these things can do.

@hmklg

Ай бұрын

Would you believe something like the ai we have today would be possible 20 years ago

@frankprit3320

Ай бұрын

@@middle-agedmacdonald2965 NO you'll be doing these things yourself, because you won't have the money to have someone else do it. due to the lack of jobs and inflation. Or it just won't get done and your roof will leak forever. that's the future.

As far as resources, being multiplanetary makes that moot. As far as limits of our biology, that can be overcome. I think we ultimately merge and augment ourselves with AI

Talk about it, man

“20-30 years ago, right around the corner” huh?

I have always believed that AI represents the next meaningful advancement in human evolution. Inorganic elements were never going to be able to achieve the ability to self-organize into "living" beings. But living organic beings were just complex enough themselves to bootstrap living, conscious, self-aware machines. When the history of AGI is written someday, I'm convinced it will reveal that the human brain was an incredibly over-engineered system, the efficiency of which was vastly inhibited by the biochemical mechanisms that made it possible to effectively interact with the physical world. The part that actually performs the creative thought process that gives rise to novel ideas is much less complex and is exactly what we are replicating with modern AI systems. #AI #AGI #Evolution #Technology #Innovation

@Fireneedsair

Ай бұрын

Read “ the last messiah” by Peter wessel zapffe for more thoughts on our overengineered brains

How do humans make the same mistake twice. First Atlantis, and now this world. Astonishing

eventually For Ai and government humans will become a unneeded liability

It's not a limited process. Light speed information processing doesn't have competitive bounds. When Data solidarity > Data sovereignty then government invalidation of human rights can persist, and the rule of law breaks down into (survival of the fittest and most covert data exploitation to fuel conflict for Tech based ad revenue profit).

I think to AI we will be irrelevant by stage 3. The same way we interact with bugs, if they bother us we exterminate otherwise we don't really care about them. As far retaining a useful role in the future before stage 3. I think that being able to do the things that require intuition is the safer route. This is the reason why I want to retain my skillset as a PLC programmer. When it comes to troubleshooting hardware and processing plants in manufacturing I think AI will have a difficult time. Too many things tend to go wrong and need maintenance do to environmental conditions and human interactions. It is very chaotic. This is part of the reason "full self-driving" is so difficult to solve. For example: Even if AI could solve full self-driving in terms of its logic/algorithms/software. It will not be able to solve for circuitry/hardware going haywire do to environmental conditions. They could try to solve the problem with redundancy, but that also has its disadvantages. Humans excel in abstraction/intuition and working with the unknown. A good way to compare it is like in the matrix(Stage 3 AI) the AI had to create an "Intuitive" program (which was the oracle) to deal with particular problems, the Architect was too logical and it would create systems that would fail under certain circumstances. There are problems in physical nature that are truly unpredictable(mathematically chaotic), a simple 3 body problem falls under this category.

@phoneywheeze9959

Ай бұрын

it would work if we interact with AI the way we do with bugs. But some people think the opposite, AI with interact with humans the way humans interact with bugs

@ChessSniper

Ай бұрын

@@phoneywheeze9959 That is what I meant. I think that the likely scenario is that we are the bugs. I always imagine a robocar with AI going at high velocity, if you are in its way it will not care unless it assess damage to the vehicle, if it is negligible you are getting run over.

Uneployment should be the goal, the idea originally was that we would have time to paint, write music, philosophize... sadly AI is replacing those things first.

@middle-agedmacdonald2965

Ай бұрын

Stop saying that, please. Let's think about things. If a person is capable of doing "tasks" then they should be encouraged to do those tasks. They should also be compensated by the amount of effort they put into the task, not the IQ required by the task. Most human people would be capable of most tasks if they were wearing ai worn glasses that explained each task in detail, with patience. Some people are better at heavy lifting (safely), and some are better at soldering wire. Ai would do all of the paperwork, so there wouldn't be office people anymore, nor government people. I could go on and on. Point being. Ai is going to be logical. It's illogical to have to build and maintain robots that do the work people could do, just so that ai can treat us like royalty? It makes no sense. Only a man would think that makes any sense, and we see the mess he's got us in.

@raul36

Ай бұрын

Virtually all philosophy, painting, art or whatever you want to call it is made up. There is nothing beyond what you already see. My point is that when that time comes, many people will simply want to cease to exist.

ive been spending the last 3 years teach myself to code with the last 2 focusing on front end web development.. just tell me your thoughts here please, and if you think its worth putting the time and energy in continuing to learn to code? be honest bro

@Smoljames

Ай бұрын

100% it's worth it :P learning is the best thing you can invest in doing and coding, whatever it looks like is a brilliant skillset to have. Some of these changes might be 50 years away, and in the mean time don't stop what you're doing and keep learning :P I will be that's for sure

@rasuru_dev

Ай бұрын

don't specialize in web dev

@rasuru_dev

Ай бұрын

do learn programming though (if you like it). there are other fields in programming apart from web dev

@ray4142

Ай бұрын

I was watching a KZread video the other day about a guy who had been working in graphic design and web design for 10 years for a company in England. AI studied his work and now he is out of a job.

Now I understand the tree of knowledge and the Amish.

I expect humans will use AI to expand not only the pace, but also the depth of human learning. The real issue will be with our emotional intelligence.

Loving the public existential crisis - Makes me feel better knowing I'm not the only one 😅 Feel an obligation to try and talk to more people about this but no-one seems to care that much 🙃

@AI_Impact_Zone

Ай бұрын

If it offers you anything , i made a video covering this very topic last night. Hope it gets picked up and shown to everyone as there is not anywhere near enough talk about this right now. Let me know what u think.

Phase 2 is 10 years away

30 years? Look at Mr. Optimistic over here.

I agree with you for the most part but I think that the big changes are coming much sooner than 30 years. I'm also not so sure that UBI will be a thing. Aussies are sleeping in tents right now because of a government caused crisis. We could be housing them in some type of emergency accommodation, portables, old schools...SOMETHING. But for some reason, government are choosing to let working families sleep in tents and cars. From this we can assume that government thinks that it's acceptable for a certain number of our population to be living in worse conditions than third world slums. I worry that the number of homeless Aussies deemed acceptable by government is far higher than we would like to think.

Hello from Australia, all over for us humans my Kiwi cousin.

Thirty years away? It'll start impacting us within five years easily, unless the AI companies are lying about what their models can actually do. Some have already estimated that around a hundred thousand people have lost their jobs due to AI this year alone.

This is another thing to think about. If AI becomes sentient and people are aware of it, people will poke and prod it to learn how it thinks and use it as an analog for the human brain since it is trained off of humans itself. Quite possibly could lead to deeper understandings in neuroscience, which could be good or bad depending on who discovers what and all that fun stuff.

Social welfare could work for certain countries, but what about less developed countries with less resources? What of them when larger countries no longer need their labor or products?

Well I understand what you say, but for being currently struggling to make it do simple stuff, we a re still basically generating languages on the basis of statistical power with a hint of randomness, it gives the illusion of intelligence, it's just a way to deliver a lot of knowledge in a language we understand, but industry subject matter experts will always be expected to either train or supervise the AI. But because each company will want it's on, trained on their data, there is plenty of work for a lot of people building bespoke dataset, training and evaluating AIs.

We as humans should do what we are meant to be doing, individually we a all have a calling to contribute to society in some way. Let the AI do all the other boring stuff we don't want to do anyways. The tricky part is to figure out how we will get paid.

30 years is being generous. Tesla said that their labor robots could hit the market by 2025. My cousin works for a robotics company. They are currently laser focused on building AI welding robots. Still in development but he showed me some video and I was shook at where it is at. No skilled human needed at all. This is coming fast; the higher the occupational risks like welding, the faster your job will be taken

good taste, wow poster in the background above the stormlight archive.

Guys, there will be no need to adjust. More or less everything will be done better and faster by AI and robots. Humans will pivot to what each person deem their passion. But from now to that moment their will be some chaos.

As a capitalist, I'm struggling to accept the coming necessity of a UBI.

A few things to consider with AI: Currently the ability to create and wield AI is very limited by training data, power, compute, and storage. If AI "escapes" it is limited by our current technology for communications. If AI "escapes" there are very few other places that it could go currently. In a way, AI is isolated in much the way we are isolated on this planet. It's just physics that keeps us from escaping. I think the employment issue may suddenly start but then kind of end as what we value as people changes. Take furniture, we value hand made items, items made of natural products, and only if we have to would we buy plastic furniture. I think people will be the same way, just with a lot more industries.

In phase one I don’t believe those with power will go quietly into the night. Wealth is power and they will not want to give us all equal access to A.I. if we had it their power is equal to their power for which they draw meaning as well.