Life After Death | Joey - Akron, OH | Atheist Experience 22.06
The Atheist Experience episode 22.06 for February 18, 2018, with Matt Dillahunty and Don Baker.
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I lost my best friend 2 years and 2 days after this video was posted. I am an atheist, but I can tell you that I never wanted more to believe in an after life as I do now that he's dead. The devastating truth is though that my friend is sadly a mere pile of ashes buried in a tackle box and I will never see him again. I still visit his grave and talk as though he was there. I still vainly wish I could see him again.
@chadrasmussen6127
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss I hope you had a good relationship with him while he was still with us
@markcongleton9533
2 жыл бұрын
and even if its possible it wont be your friend..he will not be the same even if god were true..he wont have the same personality or looks...sad but true
I think most people want to believe in immortality to cope with their fear of mortality
I cease to exist every night after I stop dreaming and before I start dreaming again. Time ceases to exist. I could not tell the difference between a second and a million years. I find it comforting that I will no longer feel pain and have no concept of time, just like before I was born. One morning I will fail to wake up, but comfortingly, will not know it.
@EvolovedDNA
3 жыл бұрын
@billy0 90 Actually, I test out the cease to exist part (after I stop dreaming) every night. So do you.
@mistylover7398
Ай бұрын
Same. Butt da religious believers just can't handle Dat like little children lol
Life is meaningless without an after-life, just as the after-life is meaningless without the after-after-life. Time for lunch, which is meaningless without the after-lunch.
@youfilin
5 жыл бұрын
Believers have a trick - after life is endless. ...... Hmmm
@DrPommels
5 жыл бұрын
they do know about elevensies,don't they??? (see Lord of the Rings)
@kentonbaird878
5 жыл бұрын
I could go an afterlunch.
@RabenmundK
4 жыл бұрын
@Bob Smith NDE brings up a lot of problems for Theists. First of all : It is quite common that religious persons have NDE with symbolism out of their peticular religion. Not of one special kind of "Visions" (like for example every one sees Jesus). No, muslims see islamic symbolism, Christians stuff that comes from their believes and so on with every other religion. So, if every believer in a god of a kind, which one is right. 2nd : You can reproduce similar "NDE experiences" under clinical conditions without the danger of death, it is mostly misfiring in the brain and a shortage of oxygen. Interesting enough is the case that Atheists see "the Tunnel", Light and have similar Feelings in NDEs, but rarely any religious Symbolism. And if, than they are Symbols of their former belief. That leads me (and other Atheists) to the asumption that NDEs are nothing more than signs of a malfunctioning brain filled with stuff the person believes or read about.
@Dellen-Roger
4 жыл бұрын
@Bob Smith Are you Christian?
Life after death is a contradiction.
@Satan97458
6 ай бұрын
Yep because you have people saying you only live here once then go to the afterlife and some say you live here many times. That’s why I stopped believing in fairytales lol.
@wavethatcrashed9155
5 ай бұрын
@7458 As an atheist, I dont believe heaven and hell exists, no "afterlife" no "reincarnation". However I do believe that since my consciousness arised from nothing (since atoms and particles don't have underlying consciousness) that once I pass, it is only logical that "eternal oblivion" is not the end. Perhaps for your identity/EGO, but for experience of consciousness? I dont think so. "After you die will be like before you were born" already entails that there isn't eternal non-experience.
One thing is for sure, we were dead before we were born!.
In the beginning of the video the conference where dr ramachandran talks about split brain patients is the 2006 beyond belief conference.
I went to a very small school in a remote village, so all the teachers taught more than one subject. For example, we had the same teacher, Mr Philips, for English, History and Physical Education. Every Friday we had Mr Roberts all day for Religious Instruction, Mathematics and Science. I learned that the earth is very young in the morning, but by the late afternoon, it was very old.
@Brammy007a
3 жыл бұрын
At least Mr Philips didn't stick with a young earth for science class.
@tedgrant2
3 жыл бұрын
@@Brammy007a I think you are confusing Mr Philips for Mr Roberts. Interestingly, all the teacher's names ended with "s" but none of them was plural. The head master was Mr Smokes, but he didn't !
@Brammy007a
3 жыл бұрын
@@tedgrant2 Ah yes.... Mr Roberts.
@tedgrant2
3 жыл бұрын
@@Brammy007a Mr Roberts didn't seem to notice the contradiction. He simply presented the material in such a way as to enable us to pass exams. I passed.
If there is life after death then what is the point of having a life in the first place...
@mistylover7398
Ай бұрын
To them it's just like Mexican food places with da buns and their gawd afterlife iz da 🍗🍖🥩 to look forward to in a magical kingdom somewhere after dis 👻 thing leaves dis body. If any afterlife hopefully it's not da Bible Christian faith afterlife 🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖.
@halo7982
Ай бұрын
Maybe we are earthly slaves for spiritual beings being reincarnated over n over again for a bigger reason we don’t know 😂😂.. someone once claimed that to me
@mistylover7398
Ай бұрын
@@halo7982 🤨
My so -called" soul"is simply my ego which is bundle of memories from the past stored in the brain, imposing itself on the present moment looking towards the future or remembering the past.
One of my favourite expressions is "The fever has subsided. He's going to live". When we go to Heaven, that's what Jesus will say, I'm sure. Eternal happiness is a fond hope.
I'm not looking forward to eternal bliss, I mean, when is it going to end ?
@stryker1195
3 жыл бұрын
With all the thumbs you are getting I know that that I'm talking to the people who need to hear it. It will end at the battle of Armageddon. Hope you are on the right side of history.
@tedgrant2
3 жыл бұрын
@@stryker1195 I'm sure you will agree that God never makes a mistake. Therefore he would never repent anything he has ever done in his long life. "And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth and it grieved him at his heart". (Genesis 6:6)
@tedgrant2
3 жыл бұрын
@@stryker1195 In Matthew 12:40 Jesus said he would be dead for three days and three nights. We know he died on Friday after noon. So the three nights are Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Therefore he rose from the dead on Monday after noon. But we know he was alive on Sunday morning ! Explain !
@stryker1195
3 жыл бұрын
@@tedgrant2 I want to call you out on some dishonesty: You quoted a verse that said _“If any woman come to me and hate not her father and mother and husband and children and brethren and sisters, yea, and her own life also, she cannot be my disciple.”_ There is no such verse in the Bible. I don’t know what ignorant website you are pulling your alleged Bible contradictions, but the correct verse is: *_“If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.”_* [Matthew 14:26]. In biblical times the word "hate" did not mean intense passionate dislike for someone. It meant to organize one's priorities. It's like when you are going into battle in a war, you cannot be thinking of your father or mother or children, you have to be thinking of the task at hand. In the real scripture you tried to quote Jesus was ready to lead his disciples into a journey that would be dangerous because many people were against Jesus and he wanted them to be focused on their task, to be ready... You have yet to find ONE alleged contradiction that I haven’t been able to debunk. If I have missed any bit of scripture you have tossed my way, please let me know, and I’ll be glad to debunk your claims.
@tedgrant2
3 жыл бұрын
@@stryker1195 I deliberately misquoted Jesus to see if you'd spot it. You did ! Well done for checking.
6:48>6:50 some voice in background is saying "hmmm, dobre" and I have to say it's my language. This voice is pretty clear (Dobre means good). Miracle !!! It must be the voice of God. Is this proof that the Almighty was born in Poland ? I could be proud even if I am atheist... Greetings from Poland. Love your program and all the crew. Wish you best and hope I have a chance and courage;-) to talk with you !!! PEACE
My granddaughter announced, "I am going to die ! " It was obvious to me that she had only just found out and was very worried. What is the best response to her sudden realisation and obvious fear ?
Isn't this so sad ? My brain hurts !
@chadrasmussen6127
4 жыл бұрын
Lol
I believe in life before death 🤘🏼
They know where I'm going after my death where was I before my birth ?
@stop.juststop
5 жыл бұрын
The same exact you go when you die. Nowhere.
@danbruno5945
5 жыл бұрын
Before birth you had no spirit You only have spirit after you are born,When you die your spirit leaves the body into the afterlife. You boring sods lol
@robertpreston2220
5 жыл бұрын
sadly too many pseudo scientists convince people we live many lives and have a soul
@rupturedscrotum1501
4 жыл бұрын
@Kibate our soul is in the sperm we inhabit maybe?. My belief when we die, our soul is then placed in a void. With that thought I choose to love ever second I'm alive.
Caller: Ecclesiastes 9:1-10, Wisdom 2:4-14. There is currently no scientific evidence whatsoever to support the existence of the soul.
What is more frightening than any other is the word ETERNITY. It doesn't matter whether you go to heaven or to hell. After an amount of time in heaven, you will all know what is to be known and even heaven will become hell. And what's the amount of time, we still have to stay in h.? It's still for ETERNITY. Even if our universe will end, we didn't do the half! Eternity is boring, especially when it comes to the end. The movie "Zardoz" shows what may happen in a society that could not die. SCARY.
@conscienceaginBlackadder
5 жыл бұрын
You can never know all about infinity in a finite time.
what about animals where do they go when they die. just wondering about that as well?
@chadrasmussen6127
4 жыл бұрын
Lol it's weird according to the Bible it doesn't answer alot of logical questions like I grew up with christainity and they told me there is a heaven for people and god ect but never if any animals go to heaven only that God created them on earth haha
Corliss Lamont book "Illusion of Immortality" May answer Joey's questions...
I truly hope there is an afterlife. My logical mind acknowledges that it is wishful thinking to believe we are somehow special and unique that when we die we are 1 of trillions throughout history that will be given a paradise for eternity. But my fear that this is it can’t accept
It is because of the characteristics that forms may be identified, not because of forms that characteristics exist. Common intellectual perception cannot be taken as a basis to judge reality since reality is outside of it. If the observer is aware or know that the memory has been altered. It really cannot be deceived to say it has cease to exist or say its no longer there in reality. Because the fact that one understand it was there already brings out a possibility
we will never thirst, we will never be hungry. death is our eternal life? 🤔😲
@patoneill4431
9 ай бұрын
Eternal life ! to what end? Or purpose?
Consciousness doesn't survive anaesthetics. It doesn't even survive sleep.
@leomacdonald6929
5 жыл бұрын
It doesn't even survive sleep?. Just because you can't remember your dreams doesn't mean you were not consciously dreaming. Also, there are times when you do remember your dreams. As far as anesthetics go a new study has been done showing that you are at least half conscious when given it.
@tedgrant2
5 жыл бұрын
@@leomacdonald6929 When I am asleep and not dreaming, I am completely unconscious. If consciousness is a feature of a soul, then that wouldn't happen. It is obvious to any thinking person, that a dead person cannot be conscious. Rocks are dead. Rocks are not conscious.
@tedgrant2
5 жыл бұрын
@@leomacdonald6929 Imagine having your brain removed and chopped up in a blender. Do you think you would still be conscious ?
@tedgrant2
5 жыл бұрын
@@leomacdonald6929 Before you were conceived, were you conscious ? No ? So when were you first conscious? When your brain had developed sufficiently to generate consciousness? Or was it when God magically implanted a soul ?
@leomacdonald6929
5 жыл бұрын
@@tedgrant2 Your unconscious?. You mean you were knocked out with a bat?. Unless you were your still fully conscious. Yet there are powerful near death experience cases that show otherwise. Among loads of other scientific evidence.
When i die, I will be cremated. Will I feel the flames licking my body ? No ! So I do not fear the flames of Hell nor the red hot pokers of the demons. By the same token, I don't expect to enjoy being in the bosom of Abraham.
@mistylover7398
Ай бұрын
Can't tell if you're a believer or not by dis comment lol
There was a song about this, I'm a Soul man .
Being dead, is very much like being asleep. There are some differences of course. We sleep about 8 hours per day and we can be woken if disturbed by a strong sensation. And we dream some of the time, when sleeping, but we don't always remember our dreams.
The One who can create you from nothing needs nothing to resurrect you.
@archaon1392
4 жыл бұрын
The question is: does this "One" exist?
@kayodeadechinan5928
4 жыл бұрын
How do you know that ? What do you mean by nothing ? What your evidences that support the fact that someone created something ? What do you really mean by "create" ?
@wavethatcrashed9155
5 ай бұрын
@@kayodeadechinan5928 Socrates method, ask a million questions until they slip up and contradict themselves XD
its not a tumour
@tedgrant2
Жыл бұрын
Arny said that
@teamatfort444
Жыл бұрын
@@tedgrant2 yessir.
@tedgrant2
Жыл бұрын
@@teamatfort444 You don't have to call me sir. I'm just an ordinary guy who is afraid of religion. Is there a word for that ?
If you think about existing for an eternity, at some point it's going to be horrible. Unless you are just "high" on god...like a drug...in which case, you're not "you". So either you aren't actually you in a way that matters to who you are now, or you are you and eternity tortures you with boredom.
Listen I used to be like you guys but then I really sat down and thought about it. What will happen when I die??? I thought about it from an atheist point of view, a scientific point of view so, that means when I die I won't even know that I'm died because I need a functional brain to know that im dead and matter of fact I won't even know I lived a life lmao so you might as well not have any fear of asking out your favorite crush or going for that big job, going skydiving because hey, you won't even remember it??? LMAOOO come on we all know deep inside that there is an after life. imagining death without one it is pretty confusing because right now you're basically living an illusion because you won't even have a brain to remember that you remember lmao come on man.
@brucebaker810
5 жыл бұрын
That's not "reasoning it out from an atheistic/scientific perspective". That's "holy crap! Imagining an end if this existence I've got atm is TERRIFYING. So ima say nuh uh, I gets to lib furebber". It's argument from feelz. Okay. When you're dead, you won't know you're dead. How is "but how can it be real if I don't experience/recognize it" an argument that applies to the real world. Your subjective experience ends. Objective experience, that of those who survive you....continues. My evidence? Abe Lincoln is dead. We are still here. He is, most likely, not "still experiencing" shit. We are.
@Trillvil1
5 жыл бұрын
Bruce Baker that’s not a plausible argument just because everyone else is experiencing life and when you’re dead you’re not isn’t the point. When you have a broken leg you’re experiencing the excruciating pain no one else so your point of view matters not everyone around you. So you’re telling when you’re dead you’re wiped from existence then life is meaning less you might well not have sex, fight, get that dream job because you won’t even remember it. Come on man you’re old enough to really sit down n think about it like really think about what you’re saying. The only reason you atheists don’t want to believe in god is because god says no sex before marriage or you go to hell. Because everything else sounds good. No killing no stealing etc.
@Trillvil1
5 жыл бұрын
Bruce Baker I know for a facts god exist and when you’re dead you’re gonna be like “ wait oh my I’m so sorry this is really real” because get what buddy WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE there’s no escaping gods wrath on nonbelievers. Even I’ll be punished if I sin I’m no better
@kellybults8248
5 жыл бұрын
@@Trillvil1 you know shit you must be like 11 years old and brainwashed.
@ricardovonkrypton8908
4 жыл бұрын
Haha :D The argument from "Come on...!"
If I smashed someone's head in with a hammer and they live but are basically a vegetable, did I kill their soul?
@renji766
5 жыл бұрын
Nice exemple
@leomacdonald6929
5 жыл бұрын
That proves nothing as its the same way when you damage a radio do you hear the music anymore?.
@Existentialist946
5 жыл бұрын
If I smash your eyeglasses up have I destroyed your vision?
@kingofthenorthwestrnantifa293
5 жыл бұрын
That's completely different because radios and glasses are real phisical things we can touch and examine. Also if you smash my glasses you haven't ruined my vision you nutter because if I already have to wear glasses than my vision is already fucked. Where do you morons come from?
@Existentialist946
5 жыл бұрын
@@kingofthenorthwestrnantifa293 What I'm saying is that your initial statement has no force. Wear a pair of eyeglasses whose lenses have been painted black so you cannot see a thing. Clearly it has no implications for your vision when you take the eyeglasses off. Likewise there would be no implications for one's soul once it has become disentangled from its body.
and what about schizophrenics and people with autism? what part of them makes it to the after life? what about people who live much of their life normally, and then suffer brain damage later in life and become comatose? which part of them makes it to the after life? what about infant babies that die? are there scores of babies in heaven crawling about and crying all the time? what about believers from different parts of the world who don't speak the same language? are they able to communicate in heaven via a celestial star trek translator device? this is wishful thinking fulfillment at its finest... I don't want to die, so i will justify any belief that allows me to survive death, no matter the absurdity...
@simonecrevecoeur7737
5 жыл бұрын
Why drag people with autism into this. They are after all "whole" people with o n e personality.
@jawamedia1529
5 жыл бұрын
Why are you putting schizophrenics and people with autism into a camp of people that supposedly don't have souls?
@jawamedia1529
5 жыл бұрын
And then going on to talk about brain damage
Wish I knew what that book was
Evidence now shows that splitting the brain doesn't bring about two separate consciousnesses. On top of that twins have distinct personalities from one another not something you would expect if the brain is somehow the producer of consciousness/mind..
@m9frank
5 жыл бұрын
Each twin has a brain. They don't share a brain. Get it?
@leomacdonald6929
3 жыл бұрын
@@m9frank Yeah and each twin has a different personality too.
We all know that Jesus is in Heaven, temporarily and soon, he will return, the "Second Coming". This much is certain, but there are some outstanding questions about the "end times". We expect to be raised up from our graves, which is a bit hard for those that have been cremated. But my big question is, Will the body of Jesus be raised up again (by Jesus) when he returns ?
@stephenpack2202
4 жыл бұрын
We don't know that jesus is in heaven...not sure that he even existed ..no proof of a Jesus can be found outside of the bible..if the claims of such miracles really took place we would have documentation from the Romans .they documented everything..and there is nothing!!!!
@tedgrant2
4 жыл бұрын
@@stephenpack2202 Yes, but you haven't addressed my big question.
@stephenpack2202
4 жыл бұрын
It is more likely that there was no Jesus and certainly no son of God!!! We will not be raised from death that's why its called death ...your dead..there is no return of a Jesus and there is no such thing as a resurrection
@tedgrant2
4 жыл бұрын
@@stephenpack2202 Yes but you haven't addressed my question about Jesus raising himself ! When he returns to earth to raise up the faithful, will he raise up his own body ? Like he did, 2000 years ago. A second resurrection. I don't think Christians have thought about this big question.
@willemrm4033
4 жыл бұрын
@@tedgrant2 You should ask this on a theist website. I 'm rather sure not even all Christians believe this. The writer of the Paul epistles surely didn't. And the minority (?) that does, will assume an all mighty god able to recompose a body to live in; or to take care of the former to be used again. No one knows how he bodily was supposed to look like anyway, early christian writers didn't care to talk about it, but we might assume a wise god will respect christian iconography if it would decide to repeat the act. Not many Christians puzzle about how water turned on the spot into wine, or how god does anything. It's god, so.
According to the Bible you have to wait in your grave until Jesus returns to resurrect you. "And the dead in Christ shall rise first, then we which are alive shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord in the sky" (First Thessalonians 4:16-17)
We come from a state of non-being (death) and mind is the brain dematerilsed.
Also what is so wrong with accidents people that are born as accidents all the time change the world doesnt mean for something to have meaning means it has to not be an accidental cause lol
I visited a cemetery yesterday, to walk my dog in peace. I happened across the dead baby section. The grave stones tell very sad stories. One baby was 12 days old when she died. Nearly all the dead babies are asleep in the arms of Jesus, allegedly. All I can say is that he must have very long arms.
@WhiskersMctabby
4 жыл бұрын
That's a very sad thought, but it's peanuts compared to the total 20,000+ stillbirths just in the US that occur every year. God preforms a lot of abortions, for some reason. It's almost as if medical science, especially that keeps our little ones alive after being born deserves more advocacy then things like faith and prayer.
When you die, you will become unconscious, just like when you are asleep. Your memory banks will be destroyed and you will no longer feel any sensations. You won't be able to move your limbs and your heart will stop pumping blood. It's not promising.
@stryker1195
3 жыл бұрын
Have you talked to someone who is dead to confirm that?
It's not moral to eat animal products, end of discussion.
I don't agree with the concept of a soul either but the scientific research on NDEs is pretty interesting. My answer to an afterlife is a solid "I have no idea what happens"
My soul believes that Jesus is the son of a god and died for me. My brain, on the the hand, doesn't believe that nonsense. Will my soul go to Heaven when my sinful brain dies ?
If the murderer,rapist or robberer not being caught and they died is consider not fair what they.been.doing all this while..scot free...no punishment on earth no jail term becoz they.not.being caught am i right to say this?
@kravenbludd
5 жыл бұрын
I can't tell what the hell you're trying to say.
@ravensthorn1
5 жыл бұрын
@haaahaahaa hahaha if you are speaking of divine punishment you have missed something in your analogy. Lets say the murder, rapist, thief isnt caught and isnt punished here on earth, yet before they die they accept Jesus as their saviour, they still dont get punished for their crimes...qhere is the divine punishment for them? According to Christianity, anyone could commit any number of sins, but accept Jesus as their savior and repent and get into heaven. Again i ask where is the justice in that?
The soul to me is the spark of life that make us all individual beings, it has never been found as it does not seem to be tangible. A transistor radio without the spark of energy to make it function is as dead as we will be when the time comes yet the radio is designed to transmit and receive signals. The radio can break down in operation, move to wrong channels, wires or other components break but the spark of energy ie the battery still functions. remove the battery the radio is now dead. bury it, cremate or whatever then place that battery in another radio of similar construction and it kicks in to operation. Yes the battery can be removed and measured as it is tangible unlike the soul. This is how I see the soul, as the battery of life that will reincarnate in another of similar construct. Can I prove it no, is it probable, no, is it possible, yes.
YOU GUYS ARE DEAD WRONG !!!! THERE IS LIFE AFTER DEATH
@cyrus3316
11 ай бұрын
Great. What is your evidence?
A tooma oh no to the choppa!!!!
Hey
Congenital Analgesia is a rare condition in which the sufferer cannot feel pain. I recommend all believers to study this condition which is caused by mutations in the brain. When you die, you will suffer from this condition. So you will not feel the fires of Hell.
Is it just me or anybody else also noticed this after 0:43. The laptop just perfectly aligns on the right side to the left gentleman's torso. For a few seconds I was looking at his face and I thought he was wearing a half gray half black tshirt. Lol. Ofcourse it doesnt align towards the left. That gives it away.
What happens when you die? Lots of things happen when you die, they just don't involve you
We all live on forever in some sense. In memory, though our kin, the effects our existence leaves behind, on an atomic level... Seems to me life in general and death are both rather poetic they way they are. Eternal life would be a massive bore!
LIFE and DEATH are mutually exclusive states.
@brucebaker810
5 жыл бұрын
As are California and Missouri.
@tedgrant2
5 жыл бұрын
@@brucebaker810 Ha, good one Bruce
I don't believe on life after death my friend we are stardust if we die that's the end.
@juliocasim4330
4 жыл бұрын
Peter Kazavis no problem for me you want to try so we can prove who is right I'm not afraid to die my friend.
I’m from Akron Ohio but I live in Los Angeles now
The word "miracle" has more than one meaning. I remember television was called a miracle of modern science. Another meaning is something happened that is impossible. Religions use the latter meaning.
When I think about life it makes my think juat how incredible it is why.. Because...... Just remember that you standing on a planet that's evolving. Revolving at 900 miles a hour. It's orbiting at 19 miles a second so it's reckoned. An the sun is the source of all our power... The sun and you an me an all the stars that we can see are moving at a million miles a day. In an outer spiraling arm at 40.000mile a hour in the galaxy we call the milk way... Our galaxy its self contained a hundred billion stars it a hundred light year side by side. It bulges in the middle 16.000 light year thick. But out by us it just 3.000 light years wide.... We're are 30.000 light years from galactic centrol point. We go around every 200.000.00 years.. An out galaxy is only one of millions an billions in this amazing an expanding universe. Our universe its self keep on expanding and expanding i. All of the directions it can wizz. As fast as we can go is the speed of light you know 12 million miles a minute and that the fastest speed there is. Do remember when you feeling very small an insecure how amazing an unlikely was you birth.. And prey that there intelligent life some were up in space between there fuck all of it down hear. On earth.. 😁
@matthewharrison7127
5 жыл бұрын
The Meaning of Life.
@taylortroutman9507
4 жыл бұрын
@@matthewharrison7127 And a lot of typos at that.
In the case of the twins, they time share the soul.
@leomacdonald6929
5 жыл бұрын
They don't a soul is created for each and every "individual" the twins are considered still two different individuals even though there genetic makeup tries to argue otherwise.
@PinupSarah
4 жыл бұрын
Leo MacDonald at what point is that soul assigned?
The basic characteristic of consciousness or spirit is that whatever it may act upon will always have a reason, even if an action doesn't seem to have any subjective reason, then also an existantial or emotional reason would be there for its action. Because it works out of intention. Thats its characteristics. So despite memory and tendencies being alterable, the consciousness and its intention or reason to be here cannot disappear, and clearly all awareness simply looks for expansion, this is apparent from nature. Therefore, even if you try altering it, the same consciousness will again attenpt in building memories and tendencies until its goal is fulfilled, which lies in the acceptence of existantial reality and its own desire to expand its awareness to it. Otherwise, whatever alteration one attempts, it will only give temporary relief until reality at some point hits its characteristics. Life converted into action brings reason and intention of some sort existantially
@neelzen9975
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we get it. Totally.
@patoneill4431
9 ай бұрын
I don’t understand what the statement is supposed give meaning to. I believe dead is dead.
@wavethatcrashed9155
5 ай бұрын
@@patoneill4431 I think he's talking about Buddhism, but tbh it is hard to read.
I just had a guy say on this video that without god life is meaningless and that if there is no god we are all accidents uhhhh first off to that particular guy I'm not an athiest not would I label myself as christain or whatever I simply believe there is or could be a god but we don't understand him\it or her or whatever that god is with our finite human mind I used to be super into the christain religion and it made me more depressed it didn't make me happy I felt like I was being abused by other christains and or believers and I'm glad that I don't go around people like that also to say I'm selish and imply that is a bad thing is really black and white because what I was saying was we all have a slefish side and it's ok as long as it's in moderation you don't need faith or religion or god or Jesus to be selfless I accually do do things for other people last week my parents church they go to and I sometimes go with them just because it's something to had a thing where people could paint a painting of their choice to give to homeless people in need you don't need to talk about god Jesus or spiritually to help other people also you can be happy without religion and there's nothing wrong with that in my book and even if we are all just accidents wtf is the big deal who cares??? I still enjoy my life for how ever long I will live on this Earth and if there's an afterlife there's nothing I can do or not do about it so why worry lol
@mauricedavis1740
4 жыл бұрын
Chad Rasmussen you gotta work on your punctuation man, you wrote all that as one big sentence...
@MaciejuCz
11 ай бұрын
Geez dude, even if what you wrote made any sense, it gets utterly lost in the fact that you didn't break it up into separate sentences.
life after death = biomass!! :)
To be 💯 accurate, don't nobody knows. Just make sure y'all livr right, have fun and make sure your soul is bless 🤟. Stay up people's
The only evidence for life after death is hope.
@bey6598
4 жыл бұрын
No it´s not. Have you ever observed nature? every winter nature dies, and it is brought back to life every spring. What makes you different from that. Flowers,trees,grass are also living beeings just like us. There would be absolutly no point of life it there is no afterlife. Allah (GOD) did not consult you when you were created, and will not consult you about your departure from this life, and when you are brought back. you atheist think you got all the answer lol. use your "consciousness" to reflect. Peace. Read the holy quran surah 75, and you will have a good answer to when you are brought back to life.
@tedgrant2
4 жыл бұрын
@@bey6598 When I am asleep, I lose my consciousness. I cannot imagine death is any better.
@bey6598
4 жыл бұрын
@@tedgrant2 This is why I recommended you to read the Quraan. Every night your soul leaves your body temporary, but when you die it is going to departure from your body permanently and moves to a place called barzakh until it is resurrected.
@tedgrant2
4 жыл бұрын
@@bey6598 But if I'm not conscious, what is the point ?
@bey6598
4 жыл бұрын
@@tedgrant2 The consciousness is the soul. so you are made of a body and soul. your soul leaves and the body decay. In death you will not lose consciousness
You will be in th same place before you were born ...and as far as I am aware that is called no where!!!!
Is there life after death ? Of course ! But not for ever. I used to have two pet mice, who quickly became eight pet mice. They are all dead now. Now I have a dog. He is alive. Physicists think that the sun is getting hotter and will eventually sterilize the earth.
@taylortroutman9507
4 жыл бұрын
That was the worst Haiku ever.
"Soul" is an archaic term. Energy has been proven to exist. Energy can never be destroyed, only transferred. For you to claim that you fully understand and have demonstrable proof that life after death doesn't exist in ANY form shows how boxes in and ignorant you truly are. I am an Atheist in that I do not believe in any "Gods" or creators. I don't however think that being an atheist means that I must out of principal deny everything that cannot as of yet be proven. For you to be so adamant about this without even entertaining the possibility is extremely telling of your fear and bias. You give Atheists a bad name, sir.
@justinhuskey335
4 жыл бұрын
Boxed* :)
@willemrm4033
4 жыл бұрын
@@justinhuskey335 Info can be destroyed, so what kind of "energy" is likely to exist that keeps info from being destructed/deleted? Would be very useful to have my computer running on it.
@justinhuskey335
4 жыл бұрын
Well, as my comment stated. You assume that you know everything about what is essentially unknown. We can hypothesize all day long, but in reality we do not know. I am comfortable with that fact. I don't see the need to place myself in a box and say I know just so I can feel better. Can you say beyond any doubt that you truly believe that our brains contain all that we are?
@willemrm4033
4 жыл бұрын
@@justinhuskey335 What reason would there be to doubt that our brains do contain all what we are? According to the video and as far as I know from science none so far. So having the ideas soul/afterlife is not entertaining a possibility but entertaining a fantasie. As long that there is no reason to doubt these ideas to be mere fiction, I truly think we are our brains Maybe sooner or later some phenomena might appear that might be called "soul "or indications for a "soul", but so far there aren't. Until then soul is redundant , except in music,romance and poetry. And as religious manipulation, politics or individual. Because of the latter, entertaining the fantasie should not be encouraged too much. But it will of course, as it always has been to calm down the unfortunate, displeased and frustrated.
@justinhuskey335
4 жыл бұрын
Again I will state my initial point. If you are basing your adamant position upon the very limited intelligence of humans and have not the wisdom to entertain the idea that said intelligence is infallible then I cannot possibly convince you otherwise. I am wise enough to entertain any thought without becoming consumed by it. Science is used by most Atheist the same way religion is used by zealots. The truth of the matter is that we know essentially nothing about the world in which we live for certain. I will not box myself in just so I can create a foundation for my frightened mind.
Its absolute bullshit. Because when there are two twins looking the same, what do you base that on as seperate people? Activities? Characteristics? Or forms? Its the qualities. If two water looks similar in appearence of sense perception yet one is of salt and another is of fresh, the difference again lies in quality. A fire does not get its identity by the form, it gets so by the heat it produces. Thats the quality. An awareness is a quality. It is not subject to sense perception. What do you mean by "removing your brain alters your memory?" Thats like saying that if you close your eyes then the sun doesn't exist. Reality doesn't work like that, if everyone removes their brain, then the concern of god or anything would not have even come. Its like saying, the curd was milk and the butter was curd before that so now we should consider the butter to be the milk. Thats absolute deception. Qualities of reality is not subject nor prejudiced to your alteration, you are subject to its ways. How can you be so sure that brain is awareness? Thats only in your appearence of sense perception. Can you be so sure awareness gets affected because of brain? Thats one crappy reasoning. Like saying the water disappears and ceases to exist when it is exposed to heat. Thats just a conversion of forma, not ceasation of forms. So error again. Just because the memory appears to have altered on physicality does not diminish the possibility that it ceases to exist nor does it mean to say it is not affected by your actions. This universe is very much conscious, it cannot avoid giving one the karmic results because its cyclical by nature, you imprint an action with emotions attached to it (which every life can and does) and without a doubt it comes back to you at some point, irrelevent of whether your intellect grasps it or not because cyclical movement in physicality is very real and whatever that acts here, including awareness is bound to receive it because its actions and emotions are imprinted in every second of its existence so you saying soul is non existent is equal to saying your awareness and its qualities do not exist. Which would be false and robotical. Brain is just a flesh on head, which appears to be of importance physically under sense perception. But the quality of being aware of awareness already diminishes intellectual perception because whatever it says as correct appears to be correct only under its own scope. If I were to interpret reasoning as a quality which is not limited to body in current reality without alteration. Then its realisable that mind is existence itself. So one would say to believe in intellectual sense perception exactly as it appears to be is like criminal standing in a court saying everything he says is correct and without guilt, without an outside evidence when under suspiscion
@stop.juststop
5 жыл бұрын
So what do you think happens when we die? Do you believe we will be conscious and aware?
@Redbeardian
5 жыл бұрын
Krishna Mathur. You could have saved yourself , and us, a lot of time by paraphrasing. Something like "Hi everyone. I'm a simpleton that doesn't understand reality very well so I prefer imaginary nonsense with no evidence to back it up".
The afterlife is where science stops and your eternity of bliss starts! The problem is while your alive your human mind and the laws of science and biology can't get around and comprehend how it's possible for the soul to leave the body after death of physical body and to the spiritual realm. Some things are not to be solved until you get there 😊
@Vivi2372
5 жыл бұрын
You have no rational basis for believing any of this. Hell, you don't even have a rational basis for believing it's possible.
@nosfrattirek5690
5 жыл бұрын
There is no afterlife, no soul and no spiritual realm. Here, I solved things without "getting there".
@danbruno5945
5 жыл бұрын
My rational basis for my beliefs are as following, -In 2010 I drowned out at sea I remember myself leaving the body and I could litrally see my body being dragged to the sand and being worked on by lifeguards and this would not be a dream because if your DROWNING you can't sleep. -After i saw my own body being worked on I felt so much love that I cant comprehend and piece,There was a white light that gave me energy. -As I went through the light I saw a glimpse of this field with beautiful vibrant colours with people ready to greet me them all off a sudden I felt this strong force tug me back and that's when came back into my body and was spitting water out all over the place. -In certain of afterlife I know what I saw -While alive this this life people will never believe you because there mind is too narrow
@nosfrattirek5690
5 жыл бұрын
@@danbruno5945 Your brain was deprived of oxygen so you had hallucinations, if that was enough to make you "certain" that there's an afterlife, you have no idea what rational means.
@nosfrattirek5690
5 жыл бұрын
@@danbruno5945 No, because we'll both be dead. What part of "being dead" do you not understand?
Life after death...nothing but wishful thinking, and that is all there is to that.
@BrickBuilder50
Жыл бұрын
It’s nice to hear comments with somebody with brains
Matt commits a logical fallacy that he often accuses others of. His explanation of brain stuff must be right because of ignorance of a better explanation. If brains can host multiple personalities, which the history if mental health evidences they can, + if souls are not implanted by God, but are a particle hosted by complex matter including living matter, so that multiple souls are already present before they acquire a brain-embodiment, then there is an explanation consistent with souls.
@matthewharrison7127
5 жыл бұрын
No. Matt doesn't claim the "brain stuff" is true because of no better explanation, he says it is most likely true because all the evidence we have supports it. Meanwhile, there is no evidence that the soul exists. Until someone demonstrates the existence of a soul and what function it may have, it fails to be a candidate explanation for anything.
@conscienceaginBlackadder
5 жыл бұрын
@@matthewharrison7127 He says on the assumption of that evidence not having a better explanation. It's not evidence that fits only his explanation + no other possible.
@matthewharrison7127
5 жыл бұрын
@@conscienceaginBlackadder He's not saying there are no other possibilities, nor that this is necessarily true. He's stating that all the evidence we have supports this conclusion. Meantime, the existence of the soul is something that has no supporting evidence whatsoever. You can't even demonstrate that the soul is even possible, so how can it be used as an explanation?
@conscienceaginBlackadder
5 жыл бұрын
@@matthewharrison7127 My first post did demonstrate how it's possible. So he is saying: because I don't know + I can fit my model to some of the evidence, my model must be the right one.
@matthewharrison7127
5 жыл бұрын
@@conscienceaginBlackadder You didn't demonstrate the soul is possible, you proposed the soul to be a particle. This is not a demonstration of existence nor even a demonstration of possibility. You have no basis for this idea, It's nothing but empty speculation. And again, Matt isn't saying this is the correct answer, not that it's proven, not that there are no other possibilities, but that the evidence supports this conclusion. That's it.
Ecclesiastes 9 New International Version (NIV) A Common Destiny for All 9 So I reflected on all this and concluded that the righteous and the wise and what they do are in God’s hands, but no one knows whether love or hate awaits them. 2 All share a common destiny-the righteous and the wicked, the good and the bad,[a] the clean and the unclean, those who offer sacrifices and those who do not. As it is with the good, so with the sinful; as it is with those who take oaths, so with those who are afraid to take them. 3 This is the evil in everything that happens under the sun: The same destiny overtakes all. The hearts of people, moreover, are full of evil and there is madness in their hearts while they live, and afterward they join the dead. 4 Anyone who is among the living has hope[b]-even a live dog is better off than a dead lion! 5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten. 6 Their love, their hate and their jealousy have long since vanished; never again will they have a part in anything that happens under the sun. 7 Go, eat your food with gladness, and drink your wine with a joyful heart, for God has already approved what you do. 8 Always be clothed in white, and always anoint your head with oil. 9 Enjoy life with your wife, whom you love, all the days of this meaningless life that God has given you under the sun-all your meaningless days. For this is your lot in life and in your toilsome labor under the sun. 10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm of the dead, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom. 11 I have seen something else under the sun: The race is not to the swift or the battle to the strong, nor does food come to the wise or wealth to the brilliant or favor to the learned; but time and chance happen to them all. 12 Moreover, no one knows when their hour will come: As fish are caught in a cruel net, or birds are taken in a snare, so people are trapped by evil times that fall unexpectedly upon them. Wisdom Better Than Folly 13 I also saw under the sun this example of wisdom that greatly impressed me: 14 There was once a small city with only a few people in it. And a powerful king came against it, surrounded it and built huge siege works against it. 15 Now there lived in that city a man poor but wise, and he saved the city by his wisdom. But nobody remembered that poor man. 16 So I said, “Wisdom is better than strength.” But the poor man’s wisdom is despised, and his words are no longer heeded. 17 The quiet words of the wise are more to be heeded than the shouts of a ruler of fools. 18 Wisdom is better than weapons of war, but one sinner destroys much good. Footnotes: Ecclesiastes 9:2 Septuagint (Aquila), Vulgate and Syriac; Hebrew does not have and the bad. Ecclesiastes 9:4 Or What then is to be chosen? With all who live, there is hope New International Version (NIV) Holy Bible, New International Version®, NIV® Copyright ©1973, 1978, 1984, 2011 by Biblica, Inc.® Used by permission. All rights reserved worldwide.Ecclesiastes 9 New International Version (NIV) A Common Destiny for All 9 So I reflected on all this and concluded that the righteous and the wise and what they do are in God’s hands, but no one knows whether love or hate awaits them. 2 All share a common destiny-the righteous and the wicked, the good and the bad,[a] the clean and the unclean, those who offer sacrifices and those who do not. As it is with the good, so with the sinful; as it is with those who take oaths, so with those who are afraid to take them. 3 This is the evil in everything that happens under the sun: The same destiny overtakes all. The hearts of people, moreover, are full of evil and there is madness in their hearts while they live, and afterward they join the dead. 4 Anyone who is among the living has hope[b]-even a live dog is better off than a dead lion! 5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten. 6 Their love, their hate and their jealousy have long since vanished; never again will they have a part in anything that happens under the sun. 7 Go, eat your food with gladness, and drink your wine with a joyful heart, for God has already approved what you do. 8 Always be clothed in white, and always anoint your head with oil. 9 Enjoy life with your wife, whom you love, all the days of this meaningless life that God has given you under the sun-all your meaningless days. For this is your lot in life and in your toilsome labor under the sun. 10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm of the dead, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom. 11 I have seen something else under the sun: The race is not to the swift or the battle to the strong, nor does food come to the wise or wealth to the brilliant or favor to the learned; but time and chance happen to them all. 12 Moreover, no one knows when their hour will come: As fish are caught in a cruel net, or birds are taken in a snare, so people are trapped by evil times that fall unexpectedly upon them. Wisdom Better Than Folly 13 I also saw under the sun this example of wisdom that greatly impressed me: 14 There was once a small city with only a few people in it. And a powerful king came against it, surrounded it and built huge siege works against it. 15 Now there lived in that city a man poor but wise, and he saved the city by his wisdom. But nobody remembered that poor man. 16 So I said, “Wisdom is better than strength.” But the poor man’s wisdom is despised, and his words are no longer heeded. 17 The quiet words of the wise are more to be heeded than the shouts of a ruler of fools. 18 Wisdom is better than weapons of war, but one sinner destroys much good. Footnotes: Ecclesiastes 9:2 Septuagint (Aquila), Vulgate and Syriac; Hebrew does not have and the bad. Ecclesiastes 9:4 Or What then is to be chosen? With all who live, there is hope New International Version (NIV) Holy Bible, New International Version®, NIV® Copyright ©1973, 1978, 1984, 2011 by Biblica, Inc.® Used by permission. All rights reserved worldwide.