LGR Oddware - Tattooing CD-Rs with Yamaha DiscT@2

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The Yamaha CRW-F1 drive from 2002 introduced the ill-fated Disc T@2 system, letting you "tattoo" CD-Rs. On the DATA side, not the label side! It lasted barely a year on the market before being discontinued, so yeah, let's dive into this bit of Oddware.
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  • @GearSeekers
    @GearSeekers3 жыл бұрын

    I love that in the 90's and 2000's they used the @ symbol as part of marketing everything 🤣

  • @LGR

    @LGR

    3 жыл бұрын

    U got th@ rite

  • @davidshepherd265

    @davidshepherd265

    3 жыл бұрын

    It seemed so futuristic at the time. God I miss those days.

  • @matthewryan6187

    @matthewryan6187

    3 жыл бұрын

    T@2 it's so ridiculous it's brilliant

  • @gophop

    @gophop

    3 жыл бұрын

    the future is now, old man!

  • @the_kombinator

    @the_kombinator

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also e. Lower case e before everything, then the next letter is a capital. Not a lot of that left, with eBay being the eXception.

  • @nak_vgm
    @nak_vgm3 жыл бұрын

    21:17 is the "Yeah, fuck it, I'm using that take" laugh and I LOVE it

  • @LGR

    @LGR

    3 жыл бұрын

    Precisely, no do-overs 😁

  • @geeeeeeo

    @geeeeeeo

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LGR That was quite the rollercoaster of emotions and facial expressions

  • @metfan4l
    @metfan4l3 жыл бұрын

    9:08 oohh that transition was nice

  • @TomBudin

    @TomBudin

    3 жыл бұрын

    hahahahahahhahahaha omg

  • @Epinardscaramel

    @Epinardscaramel

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TomBudin k

  • @lovelyheiferdev

    @lovelyheiferdev

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dang that's cool!

  • @alguiennoimportante

    @alguiennoimportante

    3 жыл бұрын

    Neutral answer

  • @rossini138

    @rossini138

    3 жыл бұрын

    I knew what this was going to be before I clicked on the time stamp! Niiiice

  • @Felamine
    @Felamine3 жыл бұрын

    The fact that there are even options to change the text color in the T@2 editor tells me that it was originally a CD label editing program (for paper labels) and the coders didn't bother to remove the color options. You just gotta love bundled software.

  • @eddiehimself
    @eddiehimself3 жыл бұрын

    Spelling Tattoo as "T@2"... nothing gets more late 90s/early 2000s than that LMAO.

  • 3 жыл бұрын

    “You can’t see the tattoos!” So basically this is a device for reducing the usable area of a CD?

  • @bcyrx

    @bcyrx

    3 жыл бұрын

    TAKE MY MONEY!

  • @Ganiscol

    @Ganiscol

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'll take two because I'm not using CDs anymore! 🤑

  • @lonewretch

    @lonewretch

    3 жыл бұрын

    He said that in the video, no?

  • @Ale.K7

    @Ale.K7

    3 жыл бұрын

    And extend the time it takes to burn them!

  • 3 жыл бұрын

    @@Ale.K7 Excellent. I've always wanted to waste more time!

  • @lillys9876
    @lillys98763 жыл бұрын

    One thing that I think is really beautiful about this channel, is the longer LRG goes on, Clint actually looks happier, healthier and more full of life with each passing day. I don't know if you'll see this Clint, but if you do, I just wanna say I love seeing you love what you do so much. ♥

  • @TheGoggengames

    @TheGoggengames

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or maybe he has finally succumbed to corona coma?

  • @ryanpascual9598

    @ryanpascual9598

    3 жыл бұрын

    *LRG*

  • @WhitekidCvsual

    @WhitekidCvsual

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ryanpascual9598 Lazy Rock Graphing

  • @ReallyRyan.

    @ReallyRyan.

    2 жыл бұрын

    LRG? You actually bothered to edit the comment and still left that in?

  • @frazerbrennan9245

    @frazerbrennan9245

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thats a really nice comment mate. Now you mention it, I see what you mean; hes glowing now a days

  • @lethauntic
    @lethauntic3 жыл бұрын

    This seems like the kind of thing where someone would be in their room one day checking out their disks, holding one up to the light and going, "A-Are those... Words?"

  • @seanc6128
    @seanc61283 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad I'm experiencing this twenty years later rather than being a disappointed teenager trying to get it to work.

  • @RLD_Media

    @RLD_Media

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was a dissapointted 7 year old that got really upset.

  • @Aleph-Noll

    @Aleph-Noll

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RLD_Media press F to pay respects

  • @shelby3822
    @shelby38223 жыл бұрын

    I can just hear the R&D manager: "That is an interesting idea...you can use company resources but you work on it on your own time"

  • @nateluthardt

    @nateluthardt

    3 жыл бұрын

    This becoming real feels more at home at RCA in the 70's trying to birth CED.

  • @cppweekly
    @cppweekly3 жыл бұрын

    I'm imaging the stacks of 1000's of test CDs the developers threw away while working on this.

  • @ryanpascual9598

    @ryanpascual9598

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why?

  • @oldveryveryoldmanfromthe1900s

    @oldveryveryoldmanfromthe1900s

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ryanpascual9598 because

  • @gabrielv.4358

    @gabrielv.4358

    Жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @lazarus2863
    @lazarus28633 жыл бұрын

    I still own my USB 2.0 version of this drive and I love it! I've never used the Disc T@2 function, and am unlikely to ever do so. But, I work in the audio industry and the Master Quality whatever they call it is a terrific feature that is still useful for me to this day. (I work sales and I used burn discs often for demo purposes). When writing a CD-R at high speeds, high-end CD players often can be finicky about reading them accurately. Audiophiley CD players are notorious for skipping more frequently than many budget players. (I don't know if it's because better DACs try to avoid error correction or if something else is at play. I'll let more qualified folk debate that) They're especially really picky about CD-Rs, sometimes skipping too easily or not wanting to read at all. The master quality feature burns the pits and lands extra wide, which makes it easier for the pickup to read. It also reduces the amount of usable space on the CDR by a small amount, but I never found a player that wouldn't play them without any issue at all. Even the pickiest, most delicate CD transports read the discs without error or skips or general grumbling. And it made my car CD player at the time far more skip resistant, too. CD Players may be less common these days, but when I find a need to burn an audio disc, I still dust this thing off and use it.

  • @siralexander3359

    @siralexander3359

    9 ай бұрын

    What does the Mt Ranier compatibility mean?

  • @oriolgonzalez9328
    @oriolgonzalez93283 жыл бұрын

    Nero Burning Rom...now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time...

  • @launchpadmcquack9305

    @launchpadmcquack9305

    3 жыл бұрын

    That and the foot long tube of cd-r's from Office Depot

  • @oriolgonzalez9328

    @oriolgonzalez9328

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@launchpadmcquack9305 ...must...avoid...penis...joke...AAARGH I'M USED TO HANDLE A FOOT LONG TUBE, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN!

  • @launchpadmcquack9305

    @launchpadmcquack9305

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've only been used to handling a roll of nickels

  • @TubbyJ420

    @TubbyJ420

    3 жыл бұрын

    I burned THOUSANDS of cds and dvds with nero back in the day. I have probably burned 5 discs in the last 5 years. How far we've come.

  • @GroteB

    @GroteB

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just wrote the same thing, and then I scrolled down.

  • @incorrectbeans
    @incorrectbeans3 жыл бұрын

    Seems like the definition of a solution looking for a problem.

  • @yuriythebest

    @yuriythebest

    3 жыл бұрын

    where it might actually have been useful is if used to show that a CD is genuine ( for example, for aspiring music artists, small software firms, etc), the same way some things have holograms on them. Of course, this can be faked but it at least adds an extra step, since the pirates would need to re-create the image manually since it can't really be scanned properly.

  • @emilycampbell6375

    @emilycampbell6375

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@yuriythebest that implies that counterfeit music CDs were ever a problem though, i've never heard of that in my life

  • @Kenthis15
    @Kenthis153 жыл бұрын

    Man, in 2002 I could see myself buying one of these to make my bands single stand out at band battles and open mics. I was a gig manager around 2010 and we were always looking for gimmicks to make our samples stand out.

  • @lukeisafinename
    @lukeisafinename3 жыл бұрын

    Me: I can't decide if I want to buy a motorcycle, a musical instrument, some electronic hardware, or a tattoo. Yamaha: No matter what, I gotchu fam.

  • @MysteriousFigure

    @MysteriousFigure

    Жыл бұрын

    Just a note though, the motorcycle company is only loosely related through the brand name as the two split around the 50's

  • @jsc315
    @jsc3153 жыл бұрын

    When I was in High School in the early 2000s I had a friend in a band and did this on their CD's of their logo and I was blown away how they were able to do this. Nope I finally have my answer 20 years later. I had no idea this was a thing!

  • @BathBombTheRussians

    @BathBombTheRussians

    3 жыл бұрын

    I remember duplicating band demos on one of these and feeling all special 😂 it was at least way better than a sharpie or paper label 🤷

  • @lonewretch

    @lonewretch

    3 жыл бұрын

    my god I was in year 9 in 1986. you already had quite large mobile phones while in high school. I feel so old....

  • @webmasale

    @webmasale

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lonewretch If you had a mobile in 86 you must've been pretty rich, land-line calls were expensive I can't imagine mobile.

  • @lonewretch

    @lonewretch

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@webmasale people had those mobiles back then, you know the ones heavy as a suitcase full of money, but with the ability only connect to satellite. Stop liking your own posts, by the way.

  • @doubtful_seer

    @doubtful_seer

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@webmasale I don’t know exactly what year they started buying them given that I was born in 91, but my family had those car phones and we were and are nowhere near rich, or even middle class.

  • @Vuusteri
    @Vuusteri3 жыл бұрын

    This happens when engineers have too much time and companies too much money. AND I LOVE IT.

  • @commodoresixfour7478

    @commodoresixfour7478

    3 жыл бұрын

    No, this is what happens when (Good) engineers are allowed control. Sort of like GM in the 70's selling GMC Motorhomes. It was such a good product that GM was still selling them during the oil crisis! If it wasn't for the been counters they would still be selling them.

  • @NotATube

    @NotATube

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@commodoresixfour7478 Thing is... it's a clever trick, but it's really not that great a commercial idea. Who wants to label the *underside* of their CDs? Lightscribe was a more sensible development of the same idea, and even *that* was ultimately "neat trick, but too many drawbacks".

  • @whatr0

    @whatr0

    11 ай бұрын

    @@NotATube I wouldnt even say Lightscribe had too many drawbacks, just that it was too little too late as recordable disc media was starting to be less of a thing the average consumer was doing by the time it came out.

  • @NotATube

    @NotATube

    11 ай бұрын

    @@whatr0 Not quite; Lightscribe came out in 2004, around the same time DVD-R writers and discs were becoming cheap enough to *really* take off. DVD-R sales peaked around the end of the decade. Lightscribe had several years during DVD-R's mid-to-late-2000s heyday to take off, it just... never did.

  • @djdjukic
    @djdjukic3 жыл бұрын

    That CRT to image capture transition is an absolute masterpiece, I rewound the video like 5 times just to look at that.

  • @TheSnarkMusic

    @TheSnarkMusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought the same, that was so simple yet so dope

  • @WhitekidCvsual

    @WhitekidCvsual

    3 жыл бұрын

    legitimately, definitely blew my mind~

  • @lenselinkberinge

    @lenselinkberinge

    2 жыл бұрын

    9:06

  • @ProtoMario
    @ProtoMario3 жыл бұрын

    I can only see this being useful in the case of a company with sensitive disc information, where you wouldn't want someone removing or coving the label a top the cd/dvd for security reasons.

  • @nslouka90

    @nslouka90

    3 жыл бұрын

    If this was created a few years prior then it could have been an interesting DRM scheme as well.

  • @alexdemoya2119

    @alexdemoya2119

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're onto something. You could use this product to permanently mark a CD for security. Like a watermark in essence.

  • @KiraSlith

    @KiraSlith

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nslouka90 Nintendo actually used a similar system for the DRM on Gamecube games, known as "BCA Marks".

  • @JennyverseLive

    @JennyverseLive

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Wazaag Break-head ...?

  • @Zeon01

    @Zeon01

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JennyverseLive Talking about Proto

  • @Scorpious187
    @Scorpious1873 жыл бұрын

    When the oddware is so odd Clint straight-up bluescreens the outtro

  • @nysaea

    @nysaea

    3 жыл бұрын

    10/10 best bluescreen

  • @needfuldoer4531

    @needfuldoer4531

    3 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of when Regular Car Reviews lampooned Technology Connections. Wait... Bookcases full of relevant stuff? A wooden table? Outtakes at the end of the video? Does this mean Clint is Captain Disillusion?

  • @alexsilva28

    @alexsilva28

    3 жыл бұрын

    What am I missing? i don't see the bluescreen

  • @Scorpious187

    @Scorpious187

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alexsilva28 it's not an actual blue screen, it's a figure of speech. The way he flubbed the ending was like a Windows blue screen error.

  • @alexsilva28

    @alexsilva28

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Scorpious187 Ohhhhh a BSOD lol

  • @BensoftMedia
    @BensoftMedia3 жыл бұрын

    Im going on Limewire to download In_the_end.mp3.exe and you can’t stop me

  • @JoelElRican

    @JoelElRican

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well, the FBI did 🤪

  • @Charlesb88

    @Charlesb88

    3 жыл бұрын

    [Chorus] This is the end Beautiful friend This is the end My only friend, the end [Verse 1] Of our elaborate plans, the end Of everything that stands, the end No safety or surprise, the end I'll never look into your eyes again [Verse 2] Can you picture what will be? So limitless and free Desperately in need Of some stranger's hand In a desperate land... Today we lay to rest ⚰️ Mr. McKay 🪦 who went to Limewire 💾 and downloaded ⤵️ 🧑‍💻 a killer virus 🦠 that sucked him into his computer 💻 never to be seen from again. He is now the Ghost 👻 in the machine. Can’t say we didn’t warn ⚠️ him. Let us prey: Now I lay me computer down to sleep, I pray the RAM my data to keep, If The power should die before my computer should wake, I pray my UPS should kick In for a memory’s sake.

  • @jibikart3828

    @jibikart3828

    3 жыл бұрын

    .exe?

  • @Kalvinjj

    @Kalvinjj

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jibikart3828 That's the fun part! Also the ~400kB size sure as heck is legit. ...Guess I'll download the .AU version, that sure ain't a virus.

  • @tomyyoung2624

    @tomyyoung2624

    3 жыл бұрын

    G: Yes do that!

  • @Megatog615
    @Megatog6153 жыл бұрын

    I can actually imagine bands shipping limited edition CD albums with cool art that's intentionally hard to see.

  • @WalterBarnes
    @WalterBarnes3 жыл бұрын

    Not only did I enjoy "seeing" this, I also enjoyed reading the closed captions. My favourite was "Oddware induced chuckle."

  • @Raveheart
    @Raveheart3 жыл бұрын

    You know it's the early 2000s when there's a Nero logo slapped on somewhere.

  • @oz_jones

    @oz_jones

    3 жыл бұрын

    And using @ in marketing

  • @HattmannenNilsson
    @HattmannenNilsson3 жыл бұрын

    As instructed, I'm letting you know down here in the comments, that I very much did like seeing it - a certain percent at a time and from different angles.

  • @TheRokkis
    @TheRokkis3 жыл бұрын

    Me: "Comic Sans Comic Sans Comic Sans!" LGR: "Hehe, we can go comic sans if you want." Me: " \o/ \o/ \o/"

  • @mrbravo365
    @mrbravo3655 ай бұрын

    I just happen to land on this page randomly and it brought back fond memories. Back in the early 2000s, we had a music label doing rap music in Houston. We had a studio, made mixtapes, recording, engineering, etc. I saw the drives online and I purchased a Yamaha F1 Internal drive and was excited to use the Disc T@2. Remarkably, we did buy the expensive CDRs but weren't happy with the results and it wasn't cost effective; if I recall, the CDRs were around 4/5 bucks a pop. We ended up trying a few different ones (including the Memorex color ones you used!) but eventually we tried the regular CD-Rs we always got at Fry's, their in house brand, the GQ CD-Rs. It looked pretty dope. We started doing our mixes to only about 50/60 minutes to leave as much room as possible for the tattoo. It was a huge hit; folks loved it and we even used it to our advantage that "If it ain't tatted it's some wack shht" (I know, it sounds corny, but it was actually pretty tough). We used the system as a copyright / legit way of verifying our CDs (even though all the music and instrumentals we used we downloaded illegally through Soulseek / FTP DJ only record pools). We used the Avery labels on the front like everyone else did but the T@2 was our call sign. We sold so many CDs from the back our cars, at clubs, at the park, I bought my first Cadillac that way. The drive itself was incredibly sturdy as well. We had a several burners going and even had a multi burner that burned 4 CDRs at a time but because we wanted the special label we burned almost all our CDs for several moths with that burner. Eventually we would only do special editions with the tattoo because we couldn't keep up, even after buying another Yamaha burner. Eventually, my homie / partner got locked up and my second son was soon to be born and we shut everything down. In a final act of pettiness, I did sell my rig with one of the drives but switched out the version of the NERO that was on there as the guy I was selling it to was a frenemy and intended to do the same work we did. MF never got it going and I'm sure he never figured it out.

  • @reeeeeeeeemmmmmmmmmm
    @reeeeeeeeemmmmmmmmmm3 жыл бұрын

    The thing I enjoyed most about this episode is seeing it

  • @cool-person1161

    @cool-person1161

    3 жыл бұрын

    me writing an essay

  • @uubrmanx
    @uubrmanx3 жыл бұрын

    How to Make a CD Unusable: Chapter 3

  • @hopingforthebest1.9

    @hopingforthebest1.9

    3 жыл бұрын

    Which comes after paper shredder in the first chapter and the microwave in the second I assume

  • @uubrmanx

    @uubrmanx

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hopingforthebest1.9 Actually, Chapter 1 is scribbling marker all over the bottom of a CD and Chapter 2 is getting the disc heavily scratched along with being shredded.

  • @ThreeNinjaDucks

    @ThreeNinjaDucks

    3 жыл бұрын

    My favorite lgr tradition breaking cd through old tech

  • @tomyyoung2624

    @tomyyoung2624

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ThreeNinjaDucks oh oh oh yes!!!!!

  • @nathanhamman418
    @nathanhamman4183 жыл бұрын

    I'm a simple man, i see that clint uploaded oddware, and demand he upload more oddware.

  • @ZiptiesSimulations
    @ZiptiesSimulations3 жыл бұрын

    Came to just say I loved to pop out animation when he went from camera to the desktop capture.

  • @Ni5ei
    @Ni5ei3 жыл бұрын

    Back then it was pretty common for audio CDs to be around 40 minutes so nearly half the disc was unused. I guess that's where the idea came from.

  • @twithnell
    @twithnell3 жыл бұрын

    When you need a tattoo on literally everything. Yamaha has you covered. You can't see it most of the time, but you have the peace of mind that you have wasted much needed storage space. lol

  • @Superphilipp

    @Superphilipp

    3 жыл бұрын

    Whis is pretty much how most tattoos work.

  • @petergplus6667
    @petergplus66673 жыл бұрын

    Most often I overburned my CDs. I couldn't have used this feature ever.

  • @Not-Great-at-Gaming
    @Not-Great-at-Gaming3 жыл бұрын

    It wasn't trying to set the world on fire... It just wanted to start a flame in your heart.

  • @ohareport
    @ohareport3 жыл бұрын

    there’s always something classy about a yamaha optical drive

  • @joempoem478

    @joempoem478

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very true

  • @toohsas

    @toohsas

    3 жыл бұрын

    Classy as in useless.

  • @Defy_Convention

    @Defy_Convention

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's optically appealing I'll leave

  • @colinstu

    @colinstu

    3 жыл бұрын

    those Plextor drives from the time always gave me goosebumps.

  • @puciohenzap891

    @puciohenzap891

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@colinstu Oh yess, Plextor audio writers...

  • @hihiou0zabimaru
    @hihiou0zabimaru3 жыл бұрын

    Man, I'm happy this was a good drive just in general, besides the "DiscT@2" gimmick - I was in high school when this released and for some reason my teenage self was convinced I needed to have this feature. I was sure it was going to be the coolest thing and oh so useful, so I saved up my money and bought an internal version of this drive. And rather predictably, I could count on one hand the number of times I actually used the DiscT@2 feature. And the CD-Rs I used when I first bought it were actually rather suitable, the "tattoo" showed up somewhat clearly on them, but of course it just wasn't as cool or nearly as useful as I thought it would be. I burned a lot of regular discs with it though, so it was useful in general - but today I'm entirely unsurprised that I never had any real use for the special feature. And seriously, DiscT@2 is the most early 2000's name on anything. Today I kind of feel embarrassed just for not having rejected it because of the name alone :)

  • @therealmistermemer

    @therealmistermemer

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lmao people actually bought it?

  • @freakyfadge

    @freakyfadge

    3 жыл бұрын

    So the when the devices were new, the tattoo would show up clearly on the disc? Maybe the age of LGR's machine means his came through fainter?

  • @the_kombinator

    @the_kombinator

    3 жыл бұрын

    How much did you pay for it? I recall buying just a regular burner in 1996 or 1997 (2X write, 4X read) for $400 (CAD) cash from the place I worked at. The owner was selling it for I think $500. 14 or 15 year old me made my money back within a couple months burning games and music for everyone in my HS. Failed disks were a PAIN though - there goes $2 every time. I think years later I stuck it in a BackPack enclosure and sold it off for... I don't even remember.

  • @Tamagotchiv45

    @Tamagotchiv45

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@freakyfadge I think he shouldn't have tried to print an complex image behind his text, if it was just plain text it would have been more visible.

  • @joshuadramsey

    @joshuadramsey

    3 жыл бұрын

    I did a similar thing with a LightScribe drive. I felt this urge to preserve the spindle of LightScribe compatible discs I bought with it. I would only use the LightScribe for "special" discs. I still have about 60 of those 100 blank discs stored away in a box in some dark corner I haven't seen in almost a decade and probably won't see again for another decade. Most of the 40 I did use were at the end of my days using DVD-R media, and almost none had a "Scribed" label-side.

  • @toyfreaks
    @toyfreaks3 жыл бұрын

    I would have totally used this every time I burned a disc to "impress" the guys at the LAN party

  • @Gildedtongue
    @Gildedtongue3 жыл бұрын

    I must applaud the commitment to the "T@2" throughout the subtitles.

  • @Jeffmetal42
    @Jeffmetal423 жыл бұрын

    Finally, I can properly label my 'TATU Greatest Hit' CD.

  • @metallicarabbit

    @metallicarabbit

    3 жыл бұрын

    WE'RE GONNA RIDE THE RACECARS!

  • @KennethSorling

    @KennethSorling

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great. What're you gonna do with the other 600 MB of space?

  • @CazRaX

    @CazRaX

    3 жыл бұрын

    I liked their first album English and Russian versions...

  • @MichaelJOneill333
    @MichaelJOneill3333 жыл бұрын

    I wonder what the black memorex cd 💿 would have looked liked “tattooed”

  • @stale2665

    @stale2665

    3 жыл бұрын

    Probably entirely invisible, as those CDs don't show any of the light refraction you usually get on the back of CDs, which is what this technology relies on.

  • @nickwallette6201

    @nickwallette6201

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep. I had a few of those. It didn’t look any different after being burned, just like the PSX discs. The dye is opaque to visible light, but transparent to IR.

  • @gregdaweson4657

    @gregdaweson4657

    2 жыл бұрын

    Still sell black CDs...

  • @MrSolveMYMaze
    @MrSolveMYMaze3 жыл бұрын

    Damn, I'm so relieved that I didn't spend my money on this back in the day. I put the money towards Gamecube games instead.

  • @SirpixelAnimations

    @SirpixelAnimations

    2 жыл бұрын

    GameCube? Bruh you are a CHAD

  • @phazonclash
    @phazonclash3 жыл бұрын

    I loved burning CDs and DVDs back in the days. Despite all the awesome technologies we have today (flash storage, huge hard drives, cloud), burning CDs is one of the things I miss the most from the early 2000s. I still have my first ever CD-RW drive, an old Acer 4X

  • @declanmar7
    @declanmar73 жыл бұрын

    Technology Connection mentioned this briefly in his LightScribe video, and the main thing I remember is how (rightfully) angry he was about the name.

  • @GeminiWoods
    @GeminiWoods3 жыл бұрын

    I can see this being used as a secret means of communication for a drug cartel back in the early 2000's. Lol

  • @tompinkerton8099

    @tompinkerton8099

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Max William Lauf Steganography.

  • @caromac_

    @caromac_

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Max William Lauf Just shove it in a generic case and put some mp3s on it, perfect disguise.

  • @mattsboring
    @mattsboring3 жыл бұрын

    Really appreciate the attention you pay to the captions! thanks for caring beyond the auto-generated ones.

  • @Eetucraft
    @Eetucraft3 жыл бұрын

    So, no one is going to talk about the smooth transition at 9:09!?

  • @user-ok3xp3un8y
    @user-ok3xp3un8y3 жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised why Yamaha promoted this technology to home users, not a software publishers as a "anti-counterfeiting measure" or some other nonsense.

  • @KiraSlith

    @KiraSlith

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nintendo used a variant of the tech for the Gamecube's DRM system known today as "BCA Marks".

  • @user-ok3xp3un8y

    @user-ok3xp3un8y

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KiraSlith yes, I know. But DRM is another problem, I'm talking more about protecting the user from a counterfeit disc by a noticeable difference. Although it would probably even be possible to combine both options, what a human sees can also be read by a laser.

  • @user-ok3xp3un8y

    @user-ok3xp3un8y

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@apropripinquo I've seen StarForce, none of the DRM concepts seem crazy to me. 😄

  • @InfernosReaper

    @InfernosReaper

    3 жыл бұрын

    If I had a software company with one of those drives, I'd put the CD-key on it in case the user lost the case.

  • @johndododoe1411

    @johndododoe1411

    3 жыл бұрын

    At the time, Microsoft used CDs with holographic labels to prevent counterfeit disks being accepted by honest customers. Those labels were really hard to read and were soon abandoned.

  • @Shinntoku
    @Shinntoku3 жыл бұрын

    You know, this *could* be a cool thing for an easter egg in a music album release

  • @rarrawer
    @rarrawer3 жыл бұрын

    I quite like these videos explaining old hardware, and appreciate all the detail you go to the effort of putting in. Thank you.

  • @sxistus
    @sxistus3 жыл бұрын

    Perfect transition between the filming the monitor and screen capture! 🤌(chef’s kiss)😘 amazing work, Clint!!

  • @ptzzz
    @ptzzz3 жыл бұрын

    Took me a while to get that the "DiscT@2" stands for Disc Tatoo when I was staring at the video title before watching the vid haha

  • @Kalvinjj

    @Kalvinjj

    3 жыл бұрын

    early 2000s cool/edgy tech marketing is a thing lost to time for sure

  • @ActualCharky
    @ActualCharky3 жыл бұрын

    This is like the alternate universe version of lightscribe and I'm here for it

  • @thedungeondelver
    @thedungeondelver3 жыл бұрын

    "Datacide" sounds like a ca. 1994 DOS game with a (hackneyed) cyberpunk theme.

  • @MarioManTV
    @MarioManTV3 жыл бұрын

    Burning a LightScribe image on one side and a DiscT@2 on the other seems like prime Blurbs content.

  • @joeclarkey
    @joeclarkey3 жыл бұрын

    Mmm that CRT to full screen transition :D

  • @thedopplereffect00

    @thedopplereffect00

    3 жыл бұрын

    If he made an entire video of how he did that, I would watch it.

  • @iana1641
    @iana16413 жыл бұрын

    This feels like a rewards for waking up early. Please never change.

  • @Splendorius

    @Splendorius

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you wake up late you will be closer to next video

  • @hueylong8046

    @hueylong8046

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is early for you?

  • @LOVE-iv2pw
    @LOVE-iv2pw2 жыл бұрын

    I thought this was going to be something I remember from my childhood where you could print CD labels and stamp them onto CDs. Honestly that seems like a better option looking at this. At least the sticker won’t take up disc memory.

  • @From_A_Diverging_Timeline
    @From_A_Diverging_Timeline2 жыл бұрын

    LGR your videos always bring me way back. Loved those memorex color cds. Used to burn music on them and thought they were so cool. Back when I still used diskmans. I was actually thinking about how they would turn out with the tattoo and you pulled them out! Good show 👏

  • @TechTimeTraveller
    @TechTimeTraveller3 жыл бұрын

    Not to be outdone, Seagate introduced the HD T@ six months later, with about the same level of visibility.

  • @Bill-lt5qf
    @Bill-lt5qf3 жыл бұрын

    Man, Nero brought back some memories. Mostly bad ones.

  • @rizmid
    @rizmid3 жыл бұрын

    I really loved the transition effect @ 9:08 it give a dramatic feel to your entertaining presentation anytime. A fan and an admirer from Pakistan!

  • @cohearty12
    @cohearty123 жыл бұрын

    Yay! Oddware! Please please please do more in this series. It's what got me hooked on the channel originally! 😁

  • @YoBGS
    @YoBGS3 жыл бұрын

    Yes! Oddware gives me life! Something about just these kooky ideas that fit a need in theory but in practice just never came out fully baked... keep being awesome LGR!

  • @BigboiiTone

    @BigboiiTone

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you like it!

  • @spacedog12345
    @spacedog123453 жыл бұрын

    Picture this: You get sent a CD-R with a case that says "shine this CD in the light." So you lift the CD over a light source, and etched into it is a freaking copypasta.

  • @U014B

    @U014B

    3 жыл бұрын

    Problem?

  • @spacedog12345

    @spacedog12345

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@U014B Not at all! I just have more questions than answers, that's all. Like what font size should be used, and would one need to use multiple discs to get all of the copypasta on there? Sure something like "This is For Rachel" is shorter than, say, the Navy Seal copypasta, but it's still a bit long on its own, right?

  • @spacedog12345

    @spacedog12345

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh, and what if you could put mini-ASCII art on a disc! That'd be cool, too!

  • @DaedalusYoung

    @DaedalusYoung

    3 жыл бұрын

    Etched into it is a QR code that links to a certain KZread video.

  • @temetka
    @temetka3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video! I love LGR and more so, the whole oddware series. Thanks!

  • @BigRaab
    @BigRaab3 жыл бұрын

    Oh man! I thought I was the only person to ever own one of these! I distinctly remember thinking "This is the future, just look at that blue read/write LED!"

  • @IvanovIvanAKrutoi
    @IvanovIvanAKrutoi3 жыл бұрын

    (sees a disc tattooing drive) "Shut up and take my money!" (sees that it tattoos on the data side of the disc) "On second thought, give me my money back."

  • @mrjoshmtz97

    @mrjoshmtz97

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol. That’s a good one!

  • @Seatux

    @Seatux

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would have rather tried Lightscribe. Never got to use it back when.

  • @Rando1975

    @Rando1975

    3 жыл бұрын

    My thoughts exactly. When I saw the title, I thought, "that sounds really cool" and then Clint explained it tatoo's the data side. Then I thought "wait, what?! That's pretty useless"

  • @jothain

    @jothain

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Seatux It's actually awesome. Really crisp graphics. I used it quite a bit and the end of optical media life when media prices got really affordable. Only downside was that it was insanely slow process to create disc filled with graphics.

  • @Fadingfool

    @Fadingfool

    3 жыл бұрын

    Still have a USB external lightscribe drive. Think I have a couple of discs for it as well.

  • @hylianarmy0
    @hylianarmy03 жыл бұрын

    It's not an LGR video without typing "FARTS" on something.

  • @alameachan

    @alameachan

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's like the "bum" of Ashen's and Menski's fame.

  • @pj0t
    @pj0t3 жыл бұрын

    Always looking forward to see your videos on Friday, best start of my weekend. Cheers

  • @legitimatelemons
    @legitimatelemons3 жыл бұрын

    Off work for the weekend, AND there's a new Oddware video? Fantastic!

  • @hearnia2k
    @hearnia2k3 жыл бұрын

    This would be amazing to hide clues in an escape room!

  • @Daijyobanai

    @Daijyobanai

    3 жыл бұрын

    the idea with escape rooms is that you eventually escape, so this wouldn't work because t@2 doesn't work. If you want skeletons in an escape room, this would be ideal.

  • @TheInternetHelpdeskPlays
    @TheInternetHelpdeskPlays3 жыл бұрын

    Is it TWAIN over SCSI. Otherwise known as "Technology without an interesting name" over "System can't see it."

  • @lonewretch

    @lonewretch

    3 жыл бұрын

    yes and yes. they were really impressive with terms back in the day haha...

  • @robXloserX
    @robXloserX3 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always. Keep them coming.

  • @leafbelly
    @leafbelly3 жыл бұрын

    I think in the late '90s, early '00s, I had more "buffer underrun" coasters than actual burnt CDs.

  • @CoreyDWillis
    @CoreyDWillis3 жыл бұрын

    Clint completely losing it at the end is what I needed today. 😂

  • @Omegamario
    @Omegamario3 жыл бұрын

    Now my Friday Afternoon in the UK has started with this fine LGR Oddware video. Many thanks sir and ooh, this is for sure something odd and I have never ever seen or heard of one of these before now

  • @5PortStudios
    @5PortStudios3 жыл бұрын

    Videos like this are one of the many reasons I sub to your channel.

  • @warriorvictor
    @warriorvictor3 жыл бұрын

    Been a while since I’ve watched one of your videos. I find your voice very calming.

  • @kurbydreamland180
    @kurbydreamland1803 жыл бұрын

    Long time viewer, first time commenter. THANK YOU! You have been a light in my dark tunnel, you have given me the confidence to repair and build pc's. Long story short... Thank you LGR

  • @benmasta5814
    @benmasta58143 жыл бұрын

    I always remembered CD=RW always refused to work in my CD-R Burners just like him lol.

  • @meej33

    @meej33

    3 жыл бұрын

    They were different. I cannot remember now the details, but they used different laser frequencies or somesuch.

  • @Trish_Carmichael
    @Trish_Carmichael3 жыл бұрын

    Wow I didn't know about this gadget! Seeing you burning a cd with Nero sent me through a nostalgia trip!

  • @BBHexKey
    @BBHexKey3 жыл бұрын

    Everybody remembers limewire, I remember using frostwire when I was like 10 years old.

  • @Spewa-em8cm
    @Spewa-em8cm3 жыл бұрын

    Those colored CD-Rs were the most interesting thing in this video, imagine wasting so much money back in the day on something this useless.

  • @michealpersicko9531

    @michealpersicko9531

    3 жыл бұрын

    how? instead of having to flick through a box to find the cd you want just have everything color coordinated so you know orange can be for burning kusic blue could be for burning files red could be files for work/school. I think it could be very useful

  • @Spewa-em8cm

    @Spewa-em8cm

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@michealpersicko9531 I meant the CD drive is basically useless for the price, the colored discs are cool.

  • @Slane583

    @Slane583

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@michealpersicko9531 I actually had a few of the colored cd-r's back in the day and I used them for music. A different color was a different mix/play list. I also had a couple of the tiny versions that Memorex made. Much easier to carry about as you could tuck them in your pocket but they didn't hold as many songs, obviously. My portable cd player was my iPod back in high school. Which I still have and works perfectly. :)

  • @freedustin

    @freedustin

    3 жыл бұрын

    they were like $2 more than the generic looking discs.

  • @Spewa-em8cm

    @Spewa-em8cm

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@freedustin Again, I meant the CD drive is basically useless for the price, the colored discs are cool.

  • @davidfl4
    @davidfl43 жыл бұрын

    Odds are my absolute favorite from among your series

  • @RetroTechBytes
    @RetroTechBytes3 жыл бұрын

    A tattooing CD drive is something I never thought I’d hear of, but this is so freaking cool! And SO 90s! I love it! The comic sans got me good too! Either way, thanks for the really fun and interesting video Clint!

  • @zachaliles
    @zachaliles3 жыл бұрын

    I have no idea why or where it's coming from, but when you held the disc up to the light I had this fleeting nostalgic flashback to the early 2000's. It was just a sense of joy and a hint of a memory that I can't quite place.

  • @MRooodddvvv
    @MRooodddvvv3 жыл бұрын

    I remember back in late 90's early 00's CD-R was almost as dark as DVD and amount of data written was very obvious. Would work fine with those i guess.

  • @the_kombinator

    @the_kombinator

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know what you mean - I can't recall the brand name though.

  • @nickwallette6201

    @nickwallette6201

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep. This came out just as the lighter dyes were taking over. Just bad timing really.

  • @daniilkolpakov2004

    @daniilkolpakov2004

    3 жыл бұрын

    Verbatim, Matsushita.

  • @crypteauxcajun2049

    @crypteauxcajun2049

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes i had an iomega zip cd 4x. Very dark burns

  • @greggv8

    @greggv8

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cyanine dye with a "gold" reflective layer that light wouldn't shine through gave them a very dark green appearance. The very first CD-R I burned was one of those and I still have it. Old CD-ROM drives like the 1x Mitsumi drive that had the whole inside slide out with a lid to lift up could read it, despite them supposedly not being capable of reading CD-R.

  • @jiface
    @jiface3 жыл бұрын

    Love having more Clint on camera. Charisma out the wazooo

  • @ScottyJoe
    @ScottyJoe3 жыл бұрын

    I can see why they transitioned this technology to DVD-R. I had a lot of those with deep purple dye that probably would have worked well. Double sided would have been expensive but probably super cool (or just use lightscribe...).

  • @Corianas_
    @Corianas_3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. I remember reading magazines about it, and always wondered how it actually performed.

  • @WolfePaws
    @WolfePaws3 жыл бұрын

    18:54 What a farting relief. Thought we might get a whole Oddware without farts.

  • @Charlesb88
    @Charlesb883 жыл бұрын

    The “reverse” of this technology, the LightScribe burner drive, makes sense since that allows you to burn an label image on the label side of special LightScribe CD-R/DVD-R discs, even if the technology never really caught on. This however does not make sense to me why you’d want this. But I guess they were just throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks.

  • @Torbjorn.Lindgren

    @Torbjorn.Lindgren

    3 жыл бұрын

    As mentioned in the video Lightscribe was developed 2 years later and required special (and initially fairly expensive) media.

  • @Charlesb88

    @Charlesb88

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Torbjorn.Lindgren yes, I know. I have a LightScribe burner drive. This tech while interesting just doesn’t seem useful enough to have been worth the effort.

  • @Aevilbeast

    @Aevilbeast

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Charlesb88 and that's why they stopped making them within a year of releasing it. No one found the feature to be useful in any capacity. IMO, Even the LightScribe technology while much better implemented than T@2, was pretty much useless, mainly because of the special CD-R's you needed tend to be quite a bit more expensive than regular cd-r's and it really wasn't that hard or inconvenient to label discs the "old-fashioned" way to begin with. But I guess if money was no concern, and since it didn't take up any of the limited data space like t@2 did, it was probably fun to mess around with and cool way to make a generic burned cd look a bit more unique.

  • @darmarfran
    @darmarfran3 жыл бұрын

    Probably one of your best outros, cheers.

  • @BankstonSkooma
    @BankstonSkooma3 жыл бұрын

    Your volume icon-only system tray is so satisfying.

  • @HarmonixJourney
    @HarmonixJourney3 жыл бұрын

    My god. Those colored CD-R's look delicious!

  • @matt4193
    @matt41933 жыл бұрын

    Imagine if CD serials came using this technology

  • @Kalvinjj

    @Kalvinjj

    3 жыл бұрын

    Heck you could actually do it far better on pressed CDs, I have some here that you can see absurdly clearly the end of the audio data. ...the only problem is you having to know the serial before putting it into the drive

  • @djdjukic

    @djdjukic

    3 жыл бұрын

    I still have a copy of, I think, Windows 7 Beta, that I burned myself, with the serial number burned into the data side with LabelFlash.

  • @zonderafspraak
    @zonderafspraak3 жыл бұрын

    We had one of these drives back in the day, and yeah, you really needed to use the brilliant blue CD-Rs from Verbatim for it to look any good. The ones I used back then were even deeper blue than the type you used, Clint, and you could definitely it much better.

  • @TylerMcVicker1
    @TylerMcVicker13 жыл бұрын

    It didn’t work, but damn, I want it.

  • @offspringfan89

    @offspringfan89

    3 жыл бұрын

    You here?

  • @busterbunny005

    @busterbunny005

    3 жыл бұрын

    Omg, it's that valve news making guy

  • @fen4554

    @fen4554

    3 жыл бұрын

    It did work. You really need stock from the era because the dye is a deep blue or purple.

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